quote:Originally posted by netra: Why release it friday you ask? Sorry the cynic in me says that the friday night PR was to build excitement among buyers so Monday morning MORE dilution can continue from the raised A/S to cover the cost of expanding and meeting the demand.
You're right on target. They want this to all come at once not a little bit per day as people take notice. Plus when something is so good you want everyone to drool over it before they can do something about it. Look at how google puts out its financial results. Always immediately after the close.
I still don't think we're going to go up and never come back down. Remember that a lot of the people that get this thing to go up so fast are the ones that are doing it for a quick cut. When they take the cuts, the price drops again. I will agree that it's not going to drop back down to where it is now or even close but it's going to have a quick spike somewhere when people start taking their profits. But it will be longer lived this time. I'm counting on additional PR's to get this thing moving even higher.
I'm just saying don't get too full of yourselves when it starts running. No matter how great this seems, it's only news. Nobody in the company has made any real money yet until the dillution begins. And dillution brings the price down, not up. The price isn't going to shoot to 20 cents a share and stay there/keep going. We'll probably drop to half the value of where we intitially go before we continue to climb back up. But that's why it's different from the pilot. Because we have the potential to stay up and keep going if things go right. I have a lot more confidence this time that we won't drop as hard but we will drop some when the PR's cool down.
I feel like JF planned this so he can bombard us with awesome PR's all week and get his value way up for the new A/S. It's perfect for both of us, if we take the earnings with him.
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Your right shouldnt get too much ahead of ourselves and let our emotions take over regarding this awesome news we been waiting for. GZFX should not see a under a penny for a long time now. They are in the process of growth. Remember what the CEO stated back in late '05, "no longer a start up company, were in growth process now" (this is not interpeted word for word)
Yes this could spike up heavily in the morning hours and then drop due to bagholders and traders. Just do not let that fool you into not buying anymore. If you have the cash i would buy as much as you can on the dips. I wish i layed more and more of my cash into GZFX in the past couple of months. I should have followed my gut instinct! Expect much more news throughout 2006. I live in dallas, texas, and the circuit city stores in the area do not have GZFX , YET! But when they do i;m sure it will grab more investors attention in the area here and maybe some newbies into the market. I can't wait to see a PR regarding "National TV Advertising!"
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We're deifnitely going to have a very high gap and it will probably be partially filled. Very doubtful it's going to get fully filled. I remember getting screwed last year trying to flip on these gaps. Eventually, I caught the pattern and was able to do it, but by the time I got ahead, the non-stop downward spiral began and I found myself buying in to only sell lower. So much for flipping.
I suggest just buying. I am not going to try and flip anything. It's too stressful to try and keep up with it and get the absolute lowest before it runs away on us. That's the worst feeling ever, your price being next and then it turns around and leaves.
Oh yeah, I will definitely be selling if it hits a quarter by the way. I've been hearing a lot of optimistic views of where we're heading. If we get close to .25, that'll put me at $1.3 million profit lol I can't agree with such optimism, but I would sure be glad to be wrong.
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From HSM board.. We are all here with over excitement.. LOL. but it is safe to discuss eveything. GLTA for the coming week.
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As of December 31, 2005, we had 3,291,733,490 shares of common stock issued and outstanding and convertible debentures outstanding that may be converted into an estimated 5,015,487,805 shares of common stock at current market prices, and outstanding warrants to purchase 8,203,000 (out of an original 15,000,0000) shares of common stock. In addition, the number of shares of common stock issuable upon conversion of the outstanding convertible debentures may increase if the market price of our stock declines. All of the shares, including all of the shares issuable upon conversion of the debentures and upon exercise of our warrants, may be sold without restriction. The sale of these shares may adversely affect the market price of our common stock.
Here is a list of dilution in 2005, i did not include the stock incentive plans which total around 1 billion, give or take a hundred million. lol
SB-2 01/20/05 1,303,426,829 shares SB-2/A 05/05/05 1,015,000,000 shares SB-2/A 07/22/05 2,515,000,000 shares = ugly I think everyone should be aware of what is going on with this stock, that's all. I will be playing this stock this week on dips for quick scalps. GLTA Budget
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I live in Mi. one half mile from Toledo, Oh. the wife picked up the Toledo Blade newspaper on her way home from church, nothing in the CC flyer at all about gzfx, but then there's nothing about Napster either. Just an fyi..
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an online provider of DVD movies and video games for rent or purchase, today announced a definitive-------> CO-MARKETING<--------- agreement with Circuit City Stores, Inc.
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Finally....a realistic post...I too will be playing this next week... but I will NOT be buying in at the open on monday and I WILL be getting in at a lower PPS than people that do buy in at the open...GLTA
quote:Originally posted by amer12ca: From HSM board.. We are all here with over excitement.. LOL. but it is safe to discuss eveything. GLTA for the coming week.
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As of December 31, 2005, we had 3,291,733,490 shares of common stock issued and outstanding and convertible debentures outstanding that may be converted into an estimated 5,015,487,805 shares of common stock at current market prices, and outstanding warrants to purchase 8,203,000 (out of an original 15,000,0000) shares of common stock. In addition, the number of shares of common stock issuable upon conversion of the outstanding convertible debentures may increase if the market price of our stock declines. All of the shares, including all of the shares issuable upon conversion of the debentures and upon exercise of our warrants, may be sold without restriction. The sale of these shares may adversely affect the market price of our common stock.
Here is a list of dilution in 2005, i did not include the stock incentive plans which total around 1 billion, give or take a hundred million. lol
SB-2 01/20/05 1,303,426,829 shares SB-2/A 05/05/05 1,015,000,000 shares SB-2/A 07/22/05 2,515,000,000 shares = ugly I think everyone should be aware of what is going on with this stock, that's all. I will be playing this stock this week on dips for quick scalps. GLTA Budget
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cdd, the Goldman Sachs(GS) ownership of CC shares is very important....here's why....Schoonover is a highly respected CEO and GS wouldn't be there if they didn't know his track record....GS will be watching GZFX closely over the next few months as I imagine they will be the brokerage firm that GZFX uses to go to the American Exchange. Our affiliation with CC is more than just the DVD/game subscribers. CC has for years tried to get into the VOD business, and I imagine we will soon see "boxes" for that purpose being retailed at CC(as I truly believe that there has been some kind of partnership struck between GZFX and CC for this technology).....you can be assured that GZFX couldn't get licensed by HollyWood without the CC backing and bucks behind them. The byproduct of all this is that GZFX gets the benefit of Schoonover's experience as he rolled out NETFLIX at BestBuy and gave NETFLIX the start they needed.....once GS gets the word from Schoonover that it is time for GZFX to go to the AM EX....GS will be buying shares of GZFX like there is no tomorrow...then you will see this puppy fly...
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an online provider of DVD movies and video games for rent or purchase, today announced a definitive-------> CO-MARKETING<--------- agreement with Circuit City Stores, Inc.
Please excuse my ignorance, not sure what your point is, is it in your flyer? lol..
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i've been trying to calculate and figure out a realistic number for Monday. Now i think .03 to .038 will be its high point. If we headed straight to .05 on monday that would be almost 500 percent profit, which is not unheard of here in the otc but with GZFX we only managed 400 percent back in sept. '05 so 400 percent from .0085 would be .034 pps. Now typically after a huge rise in pps in one day the next day it typically will dip down. But this time its different the News is out and this is for real. I see tuesday us hitting .05 by tuesday, maybe on a hard gap up in the morning or through the day. will see, man i very anxious for tomorrow!! ill be up real early!
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I don't think we are going to put a guess to the top until she starts running.
There is going to be huge volume. This stock has been waiting for this in the 0.0075-0.01 range, the longer the consolidation the harder the run. Also the fact we ahd a selloff on wednesday means people will be coming back. IMO.
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Im worried it will gap up like crazy in the premarket and make it hard for me to get in when it opens.
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I really feel sorry for you guys that think you are going to get any sleep tonight. Your mind will be thinking only about GZFX. How far will it run. Why did I sell. Man I got to go to work. But I do have some sick time saved up. I sure would hate to miss a big run. Most of you will be so hyped up you want be able to get any sleep. Then the calling in to your work to say you are sick.
Then there are some like me. I can stay up all night and wait for the opening bell. Then watch all day and keep a eye on things. One day you will be able to do that. Retirement is great. Hope the best for all tomorrow.
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And then....one day...you will die of old age....and I will be retired and staying at home trading. LOL, just kidding, I couldn't resist. Scotty
quote:Originally posted by Tape worm: I really feel sorry for you guys that think you are going to get any sleep tonight. Your mind will be thinking only about GZFX. How far will it run. Why did I sell. Man I got to go to work. But I do have some sick time saved up. I sure would hate to miss a big run. Most of you will be so hyped up you want be able to get any sleep. Then the calling in to your work to say you are sick.
Then there are some like me. I can stay up all night and wait for the opening bell. Then watch all day and keep a eye on things. One day you will be able to do that. Retirement is great. Hope the best for all tomorrow.
Industry : Electronics StoresEmployees : 45,946Exchange : NYSE
Circuit City Stores, Inc. is a national retailer of brand-name consumer electronics, personal computers (PCs) and entertainment software. As of February 28, 2005, the Company operated 612 Superstores, five mall-based stores in 158 United States media markets, 966 retail stores and dealer outlets, which consisted of 521 stores operating under the trade name RadioShack, 331 dealer outlets, 88 Rogers Plus stores and 26 Battery Plus stores. In addition to the 966 retail stores and dealer outlets, Circuit City conducted business through 64 wholesale relationships. Products offered include video equipment, information technology products, audio equipment and entertainment software products. The Company operates in two segments: domestic segment and international segment. On May 12, 2004, Circuit City acquired InterTAN, Inc.
Stock Activity fyi Last Price 24.25 52 Week High 26.01 52 Week Low 14.47 Volume 1.16 Mil Average Daily Volume (13wk) 1.94 Mil fyi 50 Day Moving Average 24.41 200 Day Moving Average 19.96 Volatility (beta) 1.62 Detailed Quote Financial data in U.S. dollars Stock Price History Change Relative Strength fyi Last 3 Months 6.0% 52 Last 6 Months 49.4% 91 fyi Last 12 Months 56.5% 86
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Been doing some thinking. Now with the national rollout into approximately 650 CC stores. Lets say GZFX averages 12 subs per store per month. That would give GZFX 7800 subs per month. Then times 12 months it would be 93600 subs a year. Let say the cost for each sub is $18 per month. That would be a gross income of $20,217,600.00 per year. Sounds like a lot of money. But when you throw in the approximately 3.5B O/S it's not. For GZFX to really fly up outside just for the hype for now. Which I feel it will run on hype for awhile. GZFX is going to have to really pull in one heck of a lot of subs to support that approximately 3.5B O/S.
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Big day tomorrow fellow investors! Remember dont be greedy and stay focus! Focus! get some rest tonight, you'll need it to stay straight on your thinking for tomorrows gzfx day. Over the weekend i prepared my plans when to sell and hopefully when to buy more. Very nice input on this broad this weekend. Good luck!
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I put an order in for the bell. Hope it gets filled before this thing takes off. Does anyone think there will be a pull back sometime in the near future?
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is .015 to low to try to buy in for the first thing in the morning or does everyone think it is gonna open closer to .02 please reply because i have a buy order in for .013 and i dont know if it will go through maybe i should put it in for .015 or so what does everyone think
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I recommend watching what UBSS has a bid at cuz most likely he will control tomorrow. He has tons of shares and will be the main seller tomorrow. I think the LOD will be about .011-.012 So, thats where I will be trying to get in. Just don't get overly anxious trying to chase it, there are more than enough shares to go around. The mm's aren't going to just let it fly at the open. GLTA hope everyone here makes a fortune!
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Stnkng1, You probably have 2 options to get the best price.
1. Put in an order pre-market for what you think it will open at. When it opens you could get filled right away if your above the ask but you probably will end up chasing until you get filled.
2. Wait until about 10 which is the first reversal period, and see if profits start to be taken and it fills the gap partially.
2. is much riskier because it might not fill the gap and if it does its not gonna fill it completely IMO. Its gonna come down to luck, how long you chase untill getting filled. I am personally gonna try to get in a little under what it opens at around 10.
Alot also depends if you are a long or looking to flip. If you are long then a half a cent isnt going to matter when this thing is trading on the AMEX at a few bucks a share . The best to do its do your own DD and get your own strategy. There is nothing wrong with asking an opinion but people can steer you wrong. GL tho.
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I still think they will gap it WAY UP for the open and then bring it down fast if they can. It's how they make their money. If there are too many buy orders continuing to come in it will be hard for them to bring it down. The buys will over power them. JMO
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I wouldn't put an order in before the bell...that only helps those having a position already. Wait till the open...
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and yes i am in for the long but of course i already had 200,000 shares at .004 and i sold when i found out it was gonna drop so here i am with none trying to buy $500 worth tommorow and im gonna hold this time i know it wont be alot of shares but if it ever makes it to .25 it will be an ok profit
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quote:Originally posted by stnkng1: i leave for work at 3:00 in the morning so i wont be here at the bell thanks though
Hey bud hows it going? You may want to put the but as a market buy so you will pay what ever the market price is....
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Yeah I guess you just have to pay through the nose then and hope it goes up more than what it opens at.
DQ: They will gap it up but I doubt more than 100% gap up which is .017 I think any good trader should be able to pick this stock up around .011-.012
You guys have to remember that the MM's have billions of shares, the company will be selling shares also. They can't all sell at the peak. So, no the mm's don't want to gap it up a ton cuz then they can't make as much money. There will be tons of buying pressure and tons of selling pressure. But, you won't really see this thing run until we get it out of the mm's hands. When the avg. investor owns it is when it will explode. Right now most avg ppl don't own it. I say give it till weds. to see its full potential. I will be buying early but def. not at the open. I will also, be holding it till at least weds. I think it should see around .04 by weds.
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Well i decided...I'm not selling my shares. A core position is the best thing. And i did some analysis on the company and what i found led me to MY DECISION to not sell.
- AAFES deal still coming - Website on it's way - Additional market retailers (Note that when Triple zero asked JF on the raio about Target he said "no comment") - I have a good feeling CC is going to take an equity interest in the company - Theres a big possibility for GZFX to expand into canada and use The source by Circuit City in 924 stores to advertise. - 626 stores in the next 8 months RIGHT before Christmas...Hell beautiful Q1 07 report!
I'm Holding this long. CC once took an equity interest in XM radio, Sirius has alot of shares outstanding. GZFX is growing and is with a BIG retailer.
I will also be buying more shares tomorrow at whatever price because i feel this is going to be a multi-day runner.
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Ahahahahaha. He's got a good point there. But will we even have an American stock exchange? The way our government is pushing around the world so much and all these countries who hate us... My retirement isn't going to be here I'm going somewhere quiet.
I won't lose sleep over this. I don't really feel excitement. I never overeact to anything. You could tell me I won a million bucks and I wouldn't even jump up and down. (That was proven when my sister gave me a gag scratch ticket, and it said I won $10,000. I actually believed it. But I didn't do anything, I just put it in my pocket and said "cool".) Tomorrow I could probably even not watch the market at all and just check at the end of the night. But obviously I won't do that because that'd just be lame. I have plenty of free time tomorrow with class AFTER the market closes
By the way, for all you whiny babies babbling about how high our O/S and how you KNOW it's gonna dillute so much during this. No ****! They're gonna dillute when it gets nice and high and that's why I'm not in this longterm. But the O/S isn't gonna affect our sprint. We're getting a run long and hard regardless of the O/S. Bigger O/S just means more smart people are making more money.
quote:Originally posted by ScottyTooHottie: And then....one day...you will die of old age....and I will be retired and staying at home trading. LOL, just kidding, I couldn't resist. Scotty
quote:Originally posted by Tape worm: I really feel sorry for you guys that think you are going to get any sleep tonight. Your mind will be thinking only about GZFX. How far will it run. Why did I sell. Man I got to go to work. But I do have some sick time saved up. I sure would hate to miss a big run. Most of you will be so hyped up you want be able to get any sleep. Then the calling in to your work to say you are sick.
Then there are some like me. I can stay up all night and wait for the opening bell. Then watch all day and keep a eye on things. One day you will be able to do that. Retirement is great. Hope the best for all tomorrow.
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Penny stocks are never priced based on value of the company. That's why they are pennies to begin with. The company's value can go up 500% in one day then drop like a brick right back to where it was. Why? Because there isn't a base value in the company to begin with for us to slap a reasonable price on. Pennies are all emotion and nothing else. Until GZFX is in the nasdaq, forget about how much money they have, are making, how many shares there are, it only matters when you see a big fat PR that says "GZFX MADE MONEY!" Price goes up for a few days and right back down. Gradual long-term profits won't be seen until they are the big guys. And that's years from now if it happens. Not what I'm investing for. I'm "trading" anyway.
quote:Originally posted by Tape worm: Been doing some thinking. Now with the national rollout into approximately 650 CC stores. Lets say GZFX averages 12 subs per store per month. That would give GZFX 7800 subs per month. Then times 12 months it would be 93600 subs a year. Let say the cost for each sub is $18 per month. That would be a gross income of $20,217,600.00 per year. Sounds like a lot of money. But when you throw in the approximately 3.5B O/S it's not. For GZFX to really fly up outside just for the hype for now. Which I feel it will run on hype for awhile. GZFX is going to have to really pull in one heck of a lot of subs to support that approximately 3.5B O/S.
Something has to be done about this O/S IMO.
Any opinions?
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Watch the price get hammered down in the early market just after it opens. Try and guess a somewhat low price as it comes down and if it stops and starts going back up, either try and catch it ASAP or sit back and wait for the next drop. These things don't just go straight up. People set it sell orders all over the place which will slow it down and reverse it a little, That first gap filler will most definitely be there. It may not live long, but it'll be there.
quote:Originally posted by stnkng1: is .015 to low to try to buy in for the first thing in the morning or does everyone think it is gonna open closer to .02 please reply because i have a buy order in for .013 and i dont know if it will go through maybe i should put it in for .015 or so what does everyone think
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