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A big fine or something should be placed on these sec allowed scams, if they lie to investors I think would put an end to some of this BS
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i swure after this damn PR drops im gonna hang back from trading for a little bit, enjoy the benefits of my speculation-
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Dougs been saying for three weeks that a PR is coming. Either the guy's for real or he's one heck of a nutjob.
It's Doug's choice to move the company forward or be remembered as one of the biggest scams of the year. I know investors won't forget and will have no trouble letting others know in the future.
I'll take a loss but I won't forget.
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i'm holding to! even if this thing drops through the floor...I am with you JIF...I got into this cuz I believe that this company is making something of itself...I think that if any of us were in this strictly because of PR we would be out right now because that has crashed and burned the last 3 weeks. It may have turned longer term than i had hoped, but better to wait than to lose, right?!
Posts: 416 | From: ME | Registered: Aug 2005
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Chances are he won't talk to you and if he does he'll say "first of next week".
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Can anyone please call this guy for once and for all... I can't because its long distance and I'm at work.
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Yeah me too. I'd love to throw "Thursday at the latest" in his face. Looks like it's going to be later than the latest.
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jdog u dont know that thursday isnt over yet man
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Well, i'm in this 'till the PR comes, whenever that might be.
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Yeah it could still come. But do I really think we are going to see it today? Do you?
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We should have just one person call him. Maybe one of the vetrans on this thread. They usually get the most out of him. We should just ask if the news was still coming out today as promised and see what he says. If not when?
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Yes, and what about the contract that was signed on July 25th? Almost a month ago. Whoever calls needs to go back to page two and review FOT's comments about his conversations with Doug from back then.
Whoever calls needs to convey that we can deal with whatever answers he gives as long as they are straight. It's not the confidence in the product that's eroding, it's the confidence in his statements (in as nice a way as possible, of course).
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He doesn't respond to e-mails. I don't think he likes to put things in writing.
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I have been waiting on this PR for almost a year, a few weeks one way or the other won't matter. It was in the fall of last year that Doug started working on this deal, but was having problems with Visa. I hope his work comes to fruition.
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quote:Originally posted by mrgr8avill: Still no volume so no need to worry -- but golly jeepers it sure would be nice to hear something from the man...
quote:Originally posted by JohnnyC: I have been waiting on this PR for almost a year, a few weeks one way or the other won't matter. It was in the fall of last year that Doug started working on this deal, but was having problems with Visa. I hope his work comes to fruition.
Maybe his Visa to get out of the country when the lynch mob comes after him
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yeah I'm sure he reads them Clyde. I'd really like to hear something from him. What the hell is the deal? Stop giving us the run around. Give it to us straight.
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i just called sutton bank and metavante and i asked them both when the deal with ICM Telecommunications is going to be confirmed and they both had no idea what i was talking about and asked me if i had the wrong number...
i asked suttons sales and advertising and he was like i think you need to call lynn at xxx-xxxx w/o an area code? ok...
when i called metavante i asked and she was like, wait lets start over, who are you? so i said i was an inverstor and was just asking a question, and she said she knew nothing about it.
i emailed sutton banks web managment (they have nothing to do with sutton bank they just manage their technical questions) and they said:
"We would suggest contacting Sutton Bank regarding this question. Our company only does technical support for Sutton Bank internet customers."
im lost and i guess we will see what happens...im telling myself that customer support probably wouldnt know what deals the company is going through...
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Eduardo, here is the last PR that provided a sales forecast: ICM Telecom CEO Updates Shareholders on Latest Operational Status
By PrimeZone Last Update: 2/22/2005 10:30:16 AM Data provided by
RENO, Nev., Feb 22, 2005 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- ICM Telecommunications Inc. (Pink Sheets:ICMH) reported today that its President & CEO, Doug Hamby, has issued the company's latest operational report to shareholders. The full text of his message follows:
February 22, 2005
Dear Fellow Shareholders:
During the month of February, ICM Telecommunications, after overcoming several operating roadblocks common to any early stage company, particularly with a newly launched business plan, began selling its stored value debit cards. At this time, we expect that by month's end the company will have put in operation approximately 15,000 to 20,000 cards, at an average revenue level of $4 per card.
In addition to our domestic working relationship with Ohio-based Sutton Bank, the company earlier this month was proudly able to commence offering international VISA electronic cards through the Global Bank of Commerce, headquartered in Antigua, in the West Indies. To better differentiate our product lines, especially since we may invest in telecommunications-related projects in the future, we have chosen to identify our card offerings as ICM Network, and set up a separate web site at www.icmnetwork.com where consumers may access a broad range of services.
Approximately 20 Independent Sales Organizations (ISOs) are helping us to penetrate stored value debit card markets internationally. The cards currently being issued are for users in Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, the Philippines and China.
We anticipate revenues of $50,000 to $75,000 for the month of February 2005. Thereafter, we anticipate the March revenue level to approximate $150,000 to $200,000, and by April to be above $300,000 per month. This number should level out to some 50,000 cards per month issued, with residual income derived from the reloading of previously issued cards. A significant portion of new and re-occurring revenues will be reflected in our company's bottom line performance.
We sincerely appreciate the patience of shareholders as we work 24/7 to implement programs that hold the promise of significantly higher revenue levels on a monthly basis. During the fine-tuning periods the past six weeks, we are pleased to report that demand has remained constant, with no lost orders of any consequence, merely postponed.
Our sales partners believe in our program, and in the potential of ICM Network, to meet and exceed their needs, and we are especially grateful to our network of ISOs for their unflagging support of our exceptional product offerings in the debit card marketplace.
We intend to report regularly on significant new card program business, as well as its impact on our company's top and bottom line performance in the months ahead. We appreciate your continued support, and believe it will be handsomely rewarded as we move forward in executing our business plan.
ICM Telecommunications Inc. is the exclusive distributor of debit instruments through Ohio-based Sutton Bank and Antigua-based Global Bank of Commerce. ICM also is developing other international banking relationships to broaden the base of its suite of stored value debit cards worldwide. Stored value debit cards give card users several hundred thousand places where their cards can be immediately accepted and honored.
Statements contained in this release, which are not historical facts, may be considered "forward-looking statements" under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are based on current expectations and the current economic environment. We caution the reader that such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. Unknown risk, uncertainties as well as other uncontrollable or unknown factors could cause actual results to materially differ from the results, performance, or expectations expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements.
SOURCE: ICM Telecommunications Inc.
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I just called and they said he was in a meeting. Left my name and number for a call back, but not holding my breath!
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Kywee, I wouldn't worry to much about Sutton not knowing... I have worked for large corporations before and nothing on the business level is ever communicated unless it directly effects your job.
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l2's are so thin on the ask its sickening 17 19 23 x2 24 26 27 28 40
think i might test the waters with a small buy at 17
PR prob isnt coming, play this like any other swing trade until we hear definite news. No sense getting all uptight about it. I just keep loading up when it gets low.
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