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hey dont sya that to loud ric and will are listening............LOL. yeah i agree lots of other things to do. Thats why i dont post much. Lifes to short to spend it online. I have kids to spend it with. Did ya catch anything?
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Important in response to the last Frizzell letter. I agree, shareholders always get paid last.
By: Varok 28 Jul 2005, 09:47 PM EDT Msg. 31706 of 31710 Jump to msg. # Good evening,
The latest events on CMKX and the silence can get on your nerves,but today's letter to shareholders from Frizzell is even more disturbing.
I'm not doubting they (Frizzell)hasn't earned their worth and in a sorta of way threw a wrench in the NSS issue,but making comments towards the company isn't to the best interest of shareholders..
Sure, some of you may like his (Frizzell's) tenacity,but it spells into something you will never want.
I have stated months ago when Frizzell joined this barnburner to get on the representation of shareholders would be a prerequisite to a class action suit.It appears,that his letter to "YOU ALL" that he is stating,maybe not in these words,but he's going after the company..
Frizzell went from Phase I to II and requested monies to help in his endeavor along the way..You may just be party to something that would definitely be the demise of your investment.
You folks just may have created a snowball effect.
Right now we have silence and basically a moot investment,but if this moves forward into a class action case,you will lose everything and this issue will be done and tied up for years..It will be the legal folks that will make out in the end.
Not one of you can bring a class action suit that benefits or can even equalize your original investment from previous cases.
I was always reluctant to join Frizzell and I believe in the company and Stocklien..I am a professional trader and never and I mean never will I ever join a class action case..I have always stood alone in my investment and if I lose it,so be it..But I will be damned if I will give a lawyer a free ride on my mishaps or lousy investment choice even if the company is at fault..I just don't care at that point..You will never get back what you put in and if it is a matter for you to feel better that the company is brought to the mat,well, that is your choice.
I don't like class action cases..Just look at all the recent ones..Not one gave back to investors and the lawyers walked away with billions..
Sheeesh,look at Enron and Global Crossing and others..
Understand something..We are common shareholders and we will not get anything..It just doesn't work in our favor if this is a fraud.
Now with that said..I'm not willing to give up yet and I still haven't taken control of my certs.Now some of you that have are concerned about privacy issues..Go figure..
And with that,I still believe this to be the greatest penny play of all times.Just be cool with the rhetoric on how Frizzell should proceed..
You do not want a Class Action Suit..There will never be a shareholders settlement if this moves to a class action..
If you have concerns get out,or just hang in there,but don't wish for something that you will eventually regret.
I'm hanging around as I'm still a player in this game.
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Yep, freshwater for me too. Leaving for Canada next Thursday for a 5 dayer. Gotta drive to Fort Francis, Ontario and get picked up there by a float plane and taken to God knows where. Going after Lakers, Northern and Smallmouth. Can't wait although I will miss being here, LOL.
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: W: Exactly what do you know about what they are doing. That bit about being out of the office is a well known story.
I speak to John and Bill. Any OG member can.
The bit about all of the players being out of the office was planned and told to me on July 6.
Gee, if you knew Stoecklein was going to be out of the office, why didn't "Bill" know? Why didn't you tell him, since you claim to be on top of things? Come on, legal. You are slipping!
I saw your post to Cobra and won't even bother to respond to that nonsense.
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I didn't fish. Too busy baiting the hook for the little ones. LOL. One caught a "striper" and a blue gill. Other one caught a blue gill. So they were very happy and so was grandpa.
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W: Gee, if you knew Stoecklein was going to be out of the office, why didn't "Bill" know? Why didn't you tell him, since you claim to be on top of things? Come on, legal. You are slipping!
Wallace are you really that naive or just faking it for sympathy. Geeesh.
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Someone should tell this person that he should read the letter before running his mouth. The letter was clear. The SEC lawyer told Frizzell he needed to watch what he tells just the OG. This could be bad for Frizzell if insider information or selective dissemination of non public information.
If Frizzell gave this to only the OG and not to all shareholders or potential shareholder he is breaking the law and could go to jail himself.
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This letter should not have been made public on the owner's group website. It should have been between attorney & attorney & UC. I sense a change in direction.
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: The letter was posted on the public OG website. Available to everyone. Sorry. No bash to be found here.
Must respond to the above before I hit the sack.
Legal, you are 100% incorrect. The OG public website is not what is meant by where a release should be made. The SEC and stock exchanges mean a full public disclosure through normal channels such as the various news agencies. To release it just on the OG site means that about 50,000 people get the message at that given time, but the general public does not get it until some time later (and in this case through word of mouth). Good night.
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Well, Wallace as soon as you can point to some "insider" information I will point it out to Bill. But unfortunately it wasn't insider, so NO FOUL.
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Hey Shorty? Remember us? open up those vaults,were coming for our money. pay now, or pay later,$40
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- no coincendance either..think about it..
CIM is ready for europe..all the companys are coming active.. desert stock transfer, active..
don stocklein, gone, cannot be reached.. urbie, cannot be reached.. andy is on vacation, cannot be reached..
the plam is coming together..all the companys will be shocking to some.
usca comes out with a new 8k, with nevada. nevada has the website now.
andy releases the news at the seattle race, the new cmkx website is coming.
for the last week and a half, we started seeing things coming active, ever wonder why?
do you want to stop the train, or get off the next station?
just get behind and try to derail the cmkx train, bashers will help you out big time, get on board with frizz and demand you want to know things, cannot wait for the aug 2nd deadline?
well i can wait, too many things pointing in the right direction.. you wanted a master plam, its been staring at you for the longest time.
looks like were are going to get our CIM finally going, and read 69z's email thread.. its been 2 years now..
how about that. and ready for europe.
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Note to RIC re: Real player. Dump that pos as soon as you can. RP was and still is one of the original spy-ware softs out there. It also has the lamest codecs coded. Do a search for 'Real alternatives' which is a freeware soft that uses window media player to run RP files. Go to GRC.com for a history of spy-ware from one of the first guys to address it. You may have to use a spy-ware removal program to get rid of all RP junk. Look at Lavasoft, or Spyware search and destroy. About cmkx... isn't UC in south america. Hiding?
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The ONLY master plan here is in UC mind for himself...IE: How do I get my ass out of this junk company scam more or less unscathed, and do it all again elsewhere with a different name.........(since the cmkx fiasco was a learning experience on how to rip off the market in full view). Europe..?? hmmmmm My prediction is UC will use Pharmaceuticals or Oil exploration as his next venture. Look at the otcbb daily listings page (stock name changes,delistings, etc.) and you'll see hundreds of companies doing the name change game. In most cases these companies do reverse splits turning your 1 million shares into 100. Does that sound like shareholder concern. It's the one thing that has always puzzled me about cmkx, no reverse split action. GLTA S5
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After the big deal made by the cult over the settlement proposal, the key was CMKX did not file the prejudgment waiver and the offer was not submitted. The SEC lawyer even said they sent the waiver to them and still nothing. Sounds to me the CMKX is blowing smoke up Frizzell and the shareholders butz. But really is that something new.
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: After the big deal made by the cult over the settlement proposal, the key was CMKX did not file the prejudgment waiver and the offer was not submitted. The SEC lawyer even said they sent the waiver to them and still nothing. Sounds to me the CMKX is blowing smoke up Frizzell and the shareholders butz. But really is that something new.
Never is new with lawyers, Ric. But the question you have to ask is: WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?
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quote:Originally posted by cobracobra: geez legal where have u been, i ve been alone here with all of the scary bashers
Took a few hours and had a picnic with my 6 & 8 year old granddaughters and then spent a couple hours fishing. Beats the heck out being in here, listening to the rants of people who know nothing about what is about to happen, but run their mouths as if they know it all.
OMG/you have offspring, and you fish? Folks, how bad can this person be?
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Somebody asked earlier for Dr.D's comments.
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Joined: Aug 2004 Gender: Male Posts: 1,101 Location: Kentucky Remarks about Mr. Frizzell's letter « Thread Started on Today at 1:43am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please don't send me anymore emails or PM's about Mr. Frizzell's letter. This is my take on it for now. To start with there is always more going on than what meets the eye and I believe CMKX is no different. There could be private discussions to buy-in and resolve the NSS position, but we don’t know! There could be a selling of claims to raise funds to develop the remaining assets of CMKX, but we don’t know! There could be a hidden plan to break the MM’s and exterminate “Shorty” once and for all, but we don’t know! There could be an insider plan to try and take over the company to get the claims, but we don’t know! It could be that some are trying to cause the company to fail so Urban will lose the claims and he is trying to protect all of us by his current actions, but we don’t know! It could be any of an infinite number of things, but the simple thing that we do know is that we don’t know.
I don’t claim to completely understand Mr. Frizzell’s position, but if you can recall I posted a similar thread a few days back that it was time for info. Why did I post it? Because I had heard from hundreds of investors that were scared, most were either selling or on the verge of selling and just wanted to hear the company say something about our situation and simply show some common courtesies. Where are we? What are we doing about it? Do we have a future whether we are revoked or not revoked? Bear in mind that we are a fully reporting publicly traded company regardless if we are on the Pinks or the OTCBB.
I personally do not see a revocation as destroying or even slowing down CMKX and its potential as the options available for success are plenty, present and practical, but this lack of any informative communication from the company in these delicate times could be devastating to the CMKX shareholder base, IMHO. It is uncalled for and should be remedied immediately!
It is time for info of some degree to come forward and it appears that no one is being listened to. We are hopefully all in this for the welfare of CMKX because that is where our investment is. Whether CMKX sinks or swims is in the hands of a “select few” and the “select few” have an obligation to share certain information. No one wants them to reveal anything that might jeopardize the success of the company as that would work against all of us. IMHO, Mr. Frizzell is not a risk to the company or the shareholders. He obligated himself legally as he signed a nondisclosure with the company to go along with his already exceptional personal integrity. Mr. Frizzell is fully aware of the penalties he would incur if he leaked vital information that had been shared with him. He would be liable, he would be jeopardizing his career, he would be injuring his clients’ investments, as well as his personal investment. On top of all of that we know that the SEC has been monitoring his communications and advising him to play his cards close to the table. Is the company saying Frizzell is a security risk? I don’t think so, but many questions still remain that could very easily be answered that should already be public knowledge.
For example: Is the company confident that it can be compliant within the time frame proposed in the Settlement Proposal? What is the company’s response seeing the initial decision by the judge was to revoke?
A simple, “Yes we believe we can file the expected reports within the proposed time frame of the settlement and we intend to file an appeal while the Settlement proposal is being reviewed simply to protect all of the shareholders interest.”
This would not jeopardize any hidden plan or interrupt any current developments in the works for the company. This is only good business practice and expected company/shareholder communications, IMHO!
Moving right along, I believe too much is being read into the letter sent by Mr. Frizzell/the Owners Group. It is not an all out assault against the company by any means. The gloves have not come off nor been thrown down. It is very similar to the U.S. being an influential force across the globe. The U.S. has the technology, equipment, finances, military power, etc… to reach out and respond to any threats on its interests and/or citizens any where in the world. If someone is threatening to do harm or taking steps that could do harm to U.S. interests or citizens any where in the world, we let them know very quickly that we have the backbone, the means, the military power, the financial backing, and the people’s support to take necessary steps to intervene if left with no other choices. The presence of these tools at the disposal of the U.S. government makes them a force to be reckoned with world wide. They very rarely are forced to use them, because they have them and others know they will use them if need be.
I see Frizzell working very similarly by stepping up the pressure to protect CMKX shareholder interests and making known what tools are at his disposal if these threatening and harmful circumstances, that can be averted, are not dealt with in a timely manner. In this letter I see that Frizzell relayed vital information to the company and to Stoecklein pertaining to options that are and have been available for some time, but they have not been pressed upon even though the existing shareholder rights, by law, give them the power and the authority they need to look inside and get answers. The rights, rules, and regulations are very real and that is the force behind the communications from Frizzell. No one wants to utilize these tools, but they are there if the playing field isn’t leveled for those that have a right to be included in ongoing operational information.
I know Mr. Frizzell and I know Mr. Martin and in my absolutely humble and honest opinion I do not believe for a second that either one of them have any intention of jeopardizing the opportunity that is potentially in play for CMKX and its shareholders. We see 10’s and hundreds of investors around the boards daily and communicate with some of them, but Frizzell hears from and is accountable to thousands of shareholders. I believe we are seeing a pressure pleading from Frizzell for help from the company to allow him to do his job and represent the interests of his clients without infringing upon the ongoing operations of the company. The powerful language is there to help convene to the company the severity of the communication gap and the urgency that needs to be taken to restore and cooperate in a “reasonable and acceptable manner”.
When we are hearing about possible claims being transferred to Shore Gold, United Carina, Aztec, Nevada Minerals, etc… with no PR’s, no 8k’s, etc… We have a fast approaching deadline to file an appeal or have the registration revoked and still no word from the company… Incredible shareholder data through the FOIA from the SEC with no explanations or interpretations… Also it has been reported that CIM is corresponding with the European sector…
I believe reasonable and acceptable communication needs to be in place. JMHO. I do not and would not support a class action lawsuit against the company at this time and think that anyone that is suggesting that is the Owners Group plan from Mr. Frizzell’s letter is reading way too much into it. JMHO.
We have agreed with the company’s decision to file/become compliant, develop assets, overhaul the internal operational team of the company, set up a new board of directors, and hire professional officers to secure the company now and for the future as they stated 6 months ago. 6 months into the decision to do these things and we have not been made aware of any significant action on any of the above, but we had been suspended in trading, had an administrative hearing, received an initial decision by a judge to revoke our registration, heard of our claims now being operated by Shore Gold, United Carina, Aztec Mining, and Nevada Minerals not to mention reported transfer of ownership of some of these from CMKX, and staring in the face a possible final decision to revoke within the next few business days without an official word coming from the company.
As I stated earlier, “I personally do not see a revocation as destroying or even slowing down CMKX and its potential as the options available for success are plenty, present and practical, but this lack of any informative communication from the company in these delicate times could be devastating to the CMKX shareholder base, IMHO. It is uncalled for and should be remedied immediately!
No offense is intended towards Mr. Casavant, Mr. Maheu, Mr. Stoecklein, or anyone else and none should be inferred by any nonexistent implications. I am not interested in the least of seeing any heads role, anyone of our team go to jail, or any kind of a law suit as this would not be good for anyone involved. I believe a shareholder lawsuit against the company would make all of us losers at this stage of the game. There are things that can be done to improve our current situation with the shareholders and I am in favor of minimal disclosure with up to date information on vital company decisions that are affecting all of us until current regulatory issues are resolved.
Success is at hand! Believe it or not!
These are just my opinions and I ask that you treat them as such.
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I really hate to be a repetative poster, but I think I just figured out something... CIM has been touted (here) to be the newest entry into the world of drag racing, ie: Arend's new sponsor... thinking back, I have not really seen UC at the track lately, but Ron is there 24/7. Hmmm, guess UC is going to take very good care of his baby brother, and who could deny him. LOL. So I guess I can expect Ron will continue making puppy dog eyes at my girlfriend, for a while anyway. She digs him. ROTFLMAO
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Item 4.01 Changes in Registrant's Certifying Accountant (a) On July 22, 2005, the Registrant terminated the engagement of Beckstead and Watts, LLP, as the Registrant's independent accountants.
Beckstead and Watts, LLP did not perform an audit of the Registrant's financial statements nor perform any significant audit related functions from the time they were engaged (July 11, 2005) through the date of the termination of their engagement (July 22, 2005).
This is a change in accountants recommended by the Registrant's Executive Management and approved by the Registrant's Board of Directors.
There were no disagreements between the Registrant and Beckstead and Watts, LLP on any matter of accounting principles or practices, or financial statement disclosure, or audit scope or procedure. However, the Registrant received a draft letter from Beckstead and Watts, LLP outlining items having to do with Beckstead and Watts, LLP's ongoing audit procedures. The Registrant attempted to meet with Beckstead and Watts, LLP to discuss its ongoing audit needs and the items mentioned in the draft letter, but Beckstead and Watts, LLP refused to meet with the Registrant. The Registrant's securities counsel issued a letter to Beckstead and Watts, LLP addressing all items raised by Beckstead and Watts, LLP's draft letter, a copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit 99.
The Registrant is seeking a new independent accountant.
A copy of this Current Report has been provided to Beckstead and Watts, LLP for their approval and the Registrant has requested a letter from them regarding the contents of this Current Report. However, as of the date of this report, the Registrant has not received a letter from Beckstead and Watts, LLP When, and if, the Registrant receives a letter from Beckstead and Watts, LLP this Current Report will be amended to include the letter as an exhibit.
Item 9.01 Exhibits
(c) Exhibit.
Exhibit Number Exhibit Title of Description 99 Letter from Stoecklein Law Group to Beckstead and Watts, LLP dated July 28, 2005.
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This really is a three ring circus. Next Tuesday is going to be a sad day when the revocation becomes final. We might have another couple weeks of rumors flying around but that'll be it. I'm predicting by the end of August it'll all pretty much be a memory. That's when the Betty Ford clinic will start filling up with thousands of strung out Kool-Aid junkies trying to get back to reality.
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Think it might say something about CMKX's lack of records? One old Lucky Charms box stuffed with cancelled checks. "Here's our records, get us ready for filing please".
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