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How bout this: Everybody who got burned-- 1. post your entry/exits 2. whether you made limit or market orders 3. whether you bid into the ask or below
Let's do a complete post-mortem. Me? Got singed a little...but I'm learning. Let's see who's willing to autopsy this corpse, and that should go a long way toward establishing some credibility, culpability or malfeasance. I heard in pool hall once: "You don't get hustled unless you're trying to hustle."
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I am one of the few that made money on this thing....(although I am still holding a few free shares) so I hate to sound like I am defending Momo here but....
you have to be quick in this game...you have to know that all of these big movers are pumps...stop waiting for 400% gains .....get in and get out quick..be smart and be careful...no one can push the BUY button for you..that is a decision that only you can make
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quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: How bout this: Everybody who got burned-- 1. post your entry/exits 2. whether you made limit or market orders 3. whether you bid into the ask or below
Let's do a complete post-mortem. Me? Got singed a little...but I'm learning. Let's see who's willing to autopsy this corpse, and that should go a long way toward establishing some credibility, culpability or malfeasance. I heard in pool hall once: "You don't get hustled unless you're trying to hustle."
ENTRY: .0058 EXIT .0035 LIMIT ORDER AT THE ASK SOLD AT THE BID
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Hey, Dannzon, I'm not pointing fingers. Disclosure: I came out OK on BAXTRR. All I'm saying is if people want to figure out how this works, let's look into it. I'm of the buy-into-the-ask school. Of course, whoever bought 450,000 at .0038 came out great, about a $975 play, on two major exits at 200,000 shares. Now, if that *is* MOMO, then he/she *definitely* shouldn't be posting messsages urging folks to hold out for .01.
Hilander got in just before I did, and I haven't sold, yet--because I only bought a little just to test the waters and didn't have time to bother with it once I saw it going south. BUT, there's folks here who are putting up dough in the belief that fellow posters are trying to help the group instead of scalping them. Jeez, it's one thing to attempt a pick off on the MM who's sitting there raking the B/A--but to hustle others in your own group...YIKES. But as I said, I have no way of knowing who bought/sold what/when, other than the volume report on microcaptrade.com...and some reading between the lines. Let's help each other, not gut the newbies.
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Ok everyone knows so much here. So I am done. How many times do I have to post this? I call picks that are running and do some extra DD and post it. Everyone now wants to say I am pumper and what not. I thought this was a public stock exchange which means people have the right to buy when ever they like and what ever they like. K-train calls plenty of picks that are ran by pump and dump groups. I bet you didnt know that? If you want to aim for 50-100% gains stay away from the picks I post. They arent meant to go up 100% I have no group behind me and I work alone. The last 4 picks none of you can do the same so why even bash? You guys are the very same ones that buy into my picks and sell at the BID then come on here saying "oh yeah Momo dumped on us" How do you even know I bought into the stock? You don't your assuming. Every pick on the net is a group pick because more then one person is buying it. Those that Bash have been hurt in the past and want to label me as Pumper with a group when I have nothing to do with one. The fact of the matter is this. Lets see what the market will do for the next 3 days and lets see how many people will want me back on Monday. You guys can't do half of the work I have done with these picks. Stick to your 100% gains.. Just know that when you see a pick fly past 300% you know I was behind it. So lets see how you guys will fair without me. If you want to call a person who helps people make money by finding stocks that has news or will come out with it a pumper then I guess Momo=pumper but no one can produce picks Like I.. So It was fun and I am sure you guys will run into my picks again.
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Only reason why I tell people to look at a penny or more is because I thought the public understood that 1,000 plus gains can happen very often. You see its investors like you that I stay away from. The get into a pick because its a good 50%-100% gain. These picks arent for those people. They are for people that know how to hold and understand that when they reach there limit sell at the ASK! Its that simple. You see the reason why picks dont run well is because you people who sell at 50-100% are the ones who Bidhack. Which means your shares have to be picked up in order for the stock to move upwards. Why dont you sell into the ASK? So you people see thats how it works. You have these people who come in and bash and are doing the very thing that I always tell them not to do. Which is sell at the BID... They are the onces messing it up. Don't blame because the stock fell nor should you say I frontloaded the pick because it didnt do well. Look at BXTRR people were saying how i frontloaded it before it ran the next day. Then when it hit 1300% not one negative responce. So I guess people didnt care that i frontloaded it then right? LOL you guys are to much. You people want everyone to do the work for you. All the investors that made money and you know who you are keep your head up and Know that there are people out there who work hard at this to produce picks like these. Notice how people were waiting for my picks to be released so they can get the group in on it first. Those are the people you need to blame not me.
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quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: Hey, Dannzon, I'm not pointing fingers. Disclosure: I came out OK on BAXTRR. All I'm saying is if people want to figure out how this works, let's look into it. I'm of the buy-into-the-ask school. Of course, whoever bought 450,000 at .0038 came out great, about a $975 play, on two major exits at 200,000 shares. Now, if that *is* MOMO, then he/she *definitely* shouldn't be posting messsages urging folks to hold out for .01.
Hilander got in just before I did, and I haven't sold, yet--because I only bought a little just to test the waters and didn't have time to bother with it once I saw it going south. BUT, there's folks here who are putting up dough in the belief that fellow posters are trying to help the group instead of scalping them. Jeez, it's one thing to attempt a pick off on the MM who's sitting there raking the B/A--but to hustle others in your own group...YIKES. But as I said, I have no way of knowing who bought/sold what/when, other than the volume report on microcaptrade.com...and some reading between the lines. Let's help each other, not gut the newbies.
I hear exactly what you are saying...I don't particularly appreciate when he says thing like "it will hit 1$ if you don't sell" or something along those lines....BUT.... I think you have to use some common sense and know that when he says things like this they are just pumps..I know that and ignore.... I like to have these runners pointed out to me....whether by Ktrain or Momo or whoever...these guys point them out, and I decide whether to get on board or not...you can't base your decision on whether to buy in or not by claims of 1000% gains by the poster..these are obviously biased and if you are not smart enough to see that, then you should spend some time trading paper before moving to cash...
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MOMO, I'm not accusing anybody...of anything. Others *have* said you're P/D-ing. I'm not. If you'll re-read what I said, you'll see we agree about playing into the MM's B/A strategy. It doesn't make sense to me to jump on a horse and then hobble it.
Let's ask this question: Who jumped on this without knowing ANYTHING about ARET?
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Momo, stop trying to defend yourself. Everyone here knows what you are. You are obviously a frontloading pump and dump pos. I would watch yourself as I know the SEC is cracking down on people like you.
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quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: Let's ask this question: Who jumped on this without knowing ANYTHING about ARET?
Exactly, the point...everyone wanted in so that they could be the "group" ....groups are OK as long as you are in the winning one ???
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momo to tell you the truth i'm just playing it looks like you had a few good ones keep them coming
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I didn't even buy this thing. The only one of momo's picks i bought was wavap and that was in and out for a quick buck.
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hey momo , you in on Cyos , looks like someone is making a move on that one . tons of buys to close out the trading session . hey , the only prob i have with pumps , is that they are already in at a low price , and they already have their sell limit orders in before the day of reckoning , so they are way ahead of you . then they claim a target price that's above their limit price so you hold out for that , while they bail out .
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quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: MOMO, I'm not accusing anybody...of anything. Others *have* said you're P/D-ing. I'm not. If you'll re-read what I said, you'll see we agree about playing into the MM's B/A strategy. It doesn't make sense to me to jump on a horse and then hobble it.
Let's ask this question: Who jumped on this without knowing ANYTHING about ARET?
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No, I'm legit--but very green. Just started a few weeks ago. I like the game, but as I also said previously, if it *was* MOMO who got in w 450k @ .0038 then bailed at .006 WHILE telling folks to hold for .01--that's just wrong. I don't care whether it's legal or not, just wrong. I also think he/she's onto something about (his/her term) "bid hacking." All I know to look at on this deal is the history at microcaptrade. As an ex-reporter, I ain't accusing nobody of nuttin' unless I got proof. But there's lessons here for everybody...
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Ohh Please Wait!!. His group hasnt started loading the shares yet. After that he would release the pick at 10.05 tomorrow. Posts: 249 | Registered: Mar 2005
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quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: No, I'm legit--but very green. Just started a few weeks ago. I like the game, but as I also said previously, if it *was* MOMO who got in w 450k @ .0038 then bailed at .006 WHILE telling folks to hold for .01--that's just wrong. I don't care whether it's legal or not, just wrong. I also think he/she's onto something about (his/her term) "bid hacking." All I know to look at on this deal is the history at microcaptrade. As an ex-reporter, I ain't accusing nobody of nuttin' unless I got proof. But there's lessons here for everybody...
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nope, not "affiliated" with anybody. I've emailed a few people, thanking them for leads, etc, and asking questions cuz I just started doing this 2 weeks ago after hearing a guy discuss GTEL, and it's down 25% since I entered. But I think it will do well if they ever make it to the test flight. The other day I did OK on BXTRR, but today I lost, but not much--because I did not buy very much. The only other position I have is CYBT, which I'm holding because they had news on phone equipment for GIs in Iraq, who have been griping about AT&T calling cards. And *wow* what a run--it's up all the way from .0004 to .0005. Whee! And I'm not saying I won't join another run--but I'll be a lot more careful than I was today...
QUESTION for *anyone who likes to help* >> I see how to go back and track the invidual trades, but how do you "scan" for issues that are building? If I see it's building, that's one thing, but if it's "frontloading," I'm not sure I want to play.
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MO MO iD LIKE TO THINK YOU ARE FOR REAL PROVE IT TO ME AND US SHOW ME AND THE BOARD YOUR WORD IS GOOD. NOW GIVE US A GOOD PICK OK
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quote:Originally posted by ryerras: I would like to thank MOMO for the nice pick. But I ask MOMO to tell us when he gets off this stock. We should all WIN or LOSE
Love you when its up but hates you when its down. lol Funny how live works huh?
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The thing that I find funny here is that if a long standing member posts that a stock is picking up then everyone checks it out and if they like it they jump on it and ride the run. How is that any different than this situation? Do you honestly think that when you sell your stock that the other person that bought it might not be left holding the bag? I agree that front loading is wrong but did you tell everyone about the runner that you found on microcap before you put in your buy order? More often than not, the answer would be no. I prefer swing trading but it hasn't gotten me very far lately. I have bought at lows thinking it would come up off the bottom only to watch it drop more. So occassionally I will pick up on a run and ride it the best I can. I can't win at them all but I think I hold my own. I know all about the groups, pumpers, and the like. I make my own choices and if it happens that I am on the same pick as Momo or shakerz or any of the other zillion groups out there then I am responsible for that. Anyone who expects 1000% gain everyday is crazy. Anyone who thinks that they can accurately predict what a stock will do or what price it will reach should probably get their crystal ball recalibrated. If you decide to jump on one of these runs, watch it close and know when to hit the sell button if it goes sour.
That's my 2 cents worth. I don't post often so don't listen to me.
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btw glassman called it,said this would happen.
-------------------- WHADDYA MEAN I CAN BE PRESIDENT OF THE USA.ITS STILL WE THE PEOPLE.RIGHT? Posts: 2048 | From: THE LAND OF CAPS LOCK. | Registered: Oct 2004
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Very good post. You see unlike pump and dump groups my picks are very well planned and excuted properley if donr correctly. My picks can all hit 600% if it recieves exactly 10-15k in postive cash volume.. If you guys can give me that without one sell order coming through I can promise you 600% or more. Guys I know how many shares the MM's are sitting on. I know how much funds it will take exactly to reach a certain level.. Bxtrr went so high because people held. They held all the way up to .13 then everyone sold. BXTRR was bidhacked at .06 which was 600% Then I took my own funds and covered the sells thats why it bounced back... Then more people bought at .06 and it flew all the way to .13 and thats when the sell of began. Thats stock only had 2 dips really. The reast where all buys. I am talking about 60 straight buys in a row nothing but green all the way up. Thats how you make a stock grow high. Every sell has to be covered in order to cause another %change uptick. Thats how the MM give you shares. When you sell you have to cover every single shares that was given to the MM then talk the shares he is holding on top of that.. Thats why the 2 dips are so close together. When people are buying it and its going up everything is fine but when someone see's a sell they stop and just watch it because it was a big sell. Then they see buys are coming on but its not moving. Then they think crap it has hit a wall its not going to go up... Then they panic so they sell. Then now everyone starts to sell sell sell sell. And MM walk it down because you guys are letting yoru shares go at a lower price each time. Thats why with everysell or 2 the MM drop the BID to see if someone else would sell for lower. If someonetakes the bait then they keep droping it. Thats why after hugh sell offs what usually happens? The MM raise the ASK and the BID all the way up to when the first sell came in.lol SO now new onvestors aren moving the stock they are just taking the shares from the MM while they get extra money for themself.. Then when you see a uptick thats because now they are running out of shares. See thats one extra step not needed if we all hold long. We hold long every 3 or 4 buys causes a uptick with no resistance on the level 2's. Then once we break the 52 week high its where you see the real money. The MM's never filled orders at that price so they barley have any shares to give to you because they dont know how much you want!! Then almost every 1 buy cause a uptick. thats why with bxtrr once it passed the 52 week high it moved quickly and when it got to .10's it moved even faster... There is a science behind the way I investment. I dont just pick as stock and throw money at it and hope it grows. I get the informaation needed to make the company work for me not me for the company.. You guys will see how i excute my picks. I now will form a group and its not pumping and dumping. Its catching the really good companies and throwing money at her so she can release some news that will make us money in the future. Thats why you ride freeshares. You take your profit and ride free shares all the way up. Science not scamming...
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Stay away from group plays. I thought eveyone would have learned from Gainsters or BT's groups that they just don't work except for the select few that accumulate prior to posting "the pick".
Learn to read charts.
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How about naming your new group "Momo's fools".
Face it you need people to dump money into your pump. You get out clean while those who don't understand the market get stuck.
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you guys think i am momo already but here it goes- for you guys who are all bashing now after 2 -50% picks.listen up, i am not associated with momo, whether you believe it or not
erat- obvioulbly fell flat on its face-you could have made money from .0044 to .0067, but i you would have never sold there and never bought there- so yes NOT A CHANCE WAVAP--could have gotten in at .009 and sold at .0029. 200%- ill take ALLC-from .001 to .0022- now, another one that it would have been a little hard to make any money on this, but you have a tight stop loss and you make money BXTRR-buy in at .015 and sell .013(unlikely) but 10 cents was likely. thats an easy 500%
so as you guys are saying us people that are buying his shares are not thinking clearly because you lost money on his last 2 picks because you were still waiitng for 1000% start bashing me!but review those numbers quietly to yourself and think to YOURSELF - if it was possible to make good money on his picks thusfar
SO---all of us guys "who are buying his shares hes dumping on us" could very easily do very well
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well guys. i understand how all of you are mad at me. i completely understand and i really do feel like i let you guys down. and trust me i really do, becasuse i know that you guys are some of my support. i have now learned from my mistakes, but i am going to take a break. again, i am very sorry for anyone that followed my pick based on it "being my pick". and i know my big mistake today was that i LET THE BASHERS GET TO ME! so therefore, i rushed a pick out trying to beat ALLC and got it handed to me. i definately disappointed everyone including myself. we were flying high for a little while, but i gave out too many picks to quickly. to many mistakes that i learned a little to late. again, sorry to anyone that respected me and my picks, i have let you down, and i will be taking a leave of absense (which i know most of you want).good luck to everyone.
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quote:Originally posted by Anchor1441: you guys think i am momo already but here it goes- for you guys who are all bashing now after 2 -50% picks.listen up, i am not associated with momo, whether you believe it or not
erat- obvioulbly fell flat on its face-you could have made money from .0044 to .0067, but i you would have never sold there and never bought there- so yes NOT A CHANCE WAVAP--could have gotten in at .009 and sold at .0029. 200%- ill take ALLC-from .001 to .0022- now, another one that it would have been a little hard to make any money on this, but you have a tight stop loss and you make money BXTRR-buy in at .015 and sell .013(unlikely) but 10 cents was likely. thats an easy 500%
so as you guys are saying us people that are buying his shares are not thinking clearly because you lost money on his last 2 picks because you were still waiitng for 1000% start bashing me!but review those numbers quietly to yourself and think to YOURSELF - if it was possible to make good money on his picks thusfar
SO---all of us guys "who are buying his shares hes dumping on us" could very easily do very well
Bro Ktrain does this everyday and doesn't even have a group behide him.. MoMo doesn't know what he picks.. he just gets a group behide it... Get a group behide anyhitng and it will run...
-------------------- "Never stop dreaming." the most successful ppl in the world dream about things they want and then go after those dreams.. dream big and work to make those dreams a reality.
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