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Whatever it is, it sure is complicated, and I think a real reach. It did have 30 some billion day in December, didn't it? Companies just don't have the latitude and the power the faithful give to CMKX. Especially a company with 703B O/S trading at .0001 / .0002. Sorry, still not buying it.
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I understand completely will... I'm not asking you to "buy-in"... pun fully intended. LOL
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unbelievable-- They say they are trying to protect me as a client to allow me to get out of a position.. I ask her who is scooping up the shares and she said the MM's are scooping them up. I ask her why the MM's want the shares and she said she did not know, but knight is one of them.
she was getting pretty shaken up when i persited on the buyer! I told her that I had a right to know who my orders were being routed to, She eventually had no other choice but to tell me who the buyers were. I ask her how the market makers were making a market if i couldn't buy shares off the market but only sell them? she said that knight, Shwab and others were buying them back.
I aks her how come they get preference to buy shares but I couldn't? She said Ameritrade is giving me a chance to get out of the security.
I ask her when did Ameritrade decide to give me inside information? she said ___________
I said , if you are allowing me to get out of a bad situation before I know that theres a bad situation then thats inside information, right ? she said ______________
She could not tell me anything except that the MM's were buying them back.
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So, the cover happened at .0000 / .0002 ? Urban issued another 97B ? These were sold to the MM's at .XX, and showed on streamers at .0000 to .0002 today? ..and come Saturday there will be a PR telling you this? .... or offering you .xx for your shares? Man-o-man, lot of speculation, complicated specualtion going on here.
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The above re-post by legaleagle clears alot up for me. One illegal activity does not require a very large step from another. IMO This needs to be copied and pasted into a letter to Senator Bennet, the chair of Banking Committee.
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quote:Originally posted by will: So, the cover happened at .0000 / .0002 ? Urban issued another 97B ? These were sold to the MM's at .XX, and showed on streamers at .0000 to .0002 today? ..and come Saturday there will be a PR telling you this? .... or offering you .xx for your shares? Man-o-man, lot of speculation, complicated specualtion going on here.
I may be completely wrong will but I believe we are talking apples and oranges. My understanding, albeit possibly wrong, is that in a buy-in, the broker and mms must find certs for shares that have been requested no matter how much they cost. In the meantime, you and I can continue to buy electronic shares at .0001 and .0002. This gives me some measure of pleasure. note the "measure of pleasure". LOL
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...and how does this "measure of pleasure" translate into a "measure of treasure", for shareholders?
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Well, we shall have to wait and see. One thing I have become very proficient at is the art of waiting for something to happen. Posts: 1005 | From: Grapevine, TX 76051 | Registered: Aug 2004
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I don't know if one could call them lies. I think things happen and people work backwards from the happening with assumptions to support their position. It's just with CMKX it is seemingly easier to assume the negative than it is to stretch the facts and imagination to the positive. It's sorta like Nostradomis, after the thing happens some obscure reference is found in his writings to support it.
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Man this is getting WAY over my head....just give me the .54 a share, and I'll leave quietly.
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OH, You leave alright, and it might be with 54 cents if you're lucky, just 54 cents, and I don't mean 54 cents a share. Most probably you will leave, or be left, I should say, with nada.
quote:Originally posted by ed19363: Man this is getting WAY over my head....just give me the .54 a share, and I'll leave quietly.
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It's way over everyones head Ed, including those promoting it. It's the latest and greatest cooked up rumor that will not come to pass.
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Surely not the 20 to 50 theories, dates, and fantasies that have been predicted and not yet materialized?
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If it were only 20 or 50 theories I might lend it some credence but a new one has been coming out seemingly every day for the last year.
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Do you have a clear understanding of how the 97B, Urban, the MM's, the DTC, The SHO, and a buy out are all woven together to translate to shareholder's benefit?
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quote:Originally posted by will: Whatever it is, it sure is complicated, and I think a real reach. It did have 30 some billion day in December, didn't it? Companies just don't have the latitude and the power the faithful give to CMKX. Especially a company with 703B O/S trading at .0001 / .0002. Sorry, still not buying it.
It's kinda like bull-in-the-ring,numbers and theories coming at you from every direction,got to be ready.LOL
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quote:Do you have a clear understanding of how the 97B, Urban, the MM's, the DTC, The SHO, and a buy out are all woven together to translate to shareholder's benefit?
They're not. As I said earlier, I take these things at face value. I believe they're being investigated for the reasons the SEC stated, I believe 700+ billion shares have been sold into the market and I believe these huge volume days are investors ridding themselves of their shares at any cost. That all makes sense while none of these convoluted theories do.
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Well, noah's two day's sales almost add up to the 97B. Isn't a possibility? Still I don't understand how that benefits the shareholder. Guess we're not going to have a clear explanation, until CMKX makes the .54 buyout offer.
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I am sorry, I thought you were talking about how they have turned that story into cmkx now on the other boards. They claim they can't buy shares now, roflmao.
YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK, is since volume was down today they want people to test and see if they can buy tomorrow. Now what a scam.
quote:Originally posted by dwman: I'm not sure I understand what you are saying Ric. Nevertheless, goodnight Ric. Goodnight Will. Goodnight Legal. Goodnight Wallace. Goodnight Up. Goodnight Johnboy. Goodnight all.
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quote:Well, noah's two day's sales almost add up to the 97B. Isn't a possibility? Still I don't understand how that benefits the shareholder. Guess we're not going to have a clear explanation, until CMKX makes the .54 buyout offer.
So, of the 400 - 700 billion shares that are in shareholders hands, the owners of 97 billion of them got smart over the last two days? Isn't that a more likely scenario?
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The CITIGROUP sponsorship is puzzling.CMKX has had Pledge,Lucas oil,Goodyear,ect...they could of had alot of other sponsors,why citigroup?
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Because most cars have more then one sponsor. Your a real loser if you don't have a few big time stickers on your car somewhere. Shoot Jeff Gordons Dupont has pepsi as a big name but smaller sticker. Does that mean I need to buy Dupont because this has to mean they have a deal with Pepsi
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If you can't sell at .0001 on a limit order , what happen's on a market order?
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quote:The CITIGROUP sponsorship is puzzling.CMKX has had Pledge,Lucas oil,Goodyear,ect...they could of had alot of other sponsors,why citigroup?
Which car does everyone at the races know about? If you wanted to get the most bang for your publicity buck, whose car are you going to want your sticker on?
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Say it isn't true, that these shares aren't being sold by shareholders. That Urban did make a deal with the SEC, DTC, MM's. They paid him a premium to deliver, via issuing another 97B, making the O/S 800B now. Through one of these regulatory agencies Urban and Iron Bob now have these monies, (an unknown amount), seeing we don't know the amount of the settlement. So, now let's say they got enough to give each 703B shares .54, that means they would have to have gotten 7.247 X .54 ($3.91 ea share), to distribute to the 703B O/S, or 8.247 .54, ($4.45 ea share), to distribute to the new O/S. Some deal, isn't it? I'd call that "the deal" , fullfillment of the "Master Plan".
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And the Trader Show???Dustoff...talk about popping some popcorn,I'll eat some with ya when that comes on, but I bet it won't be as good as Wallace and Legal...lol
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by Higwaychild: QUOTE]Which car does everyone at the races know about? If you wanted to get the most bang for your publicity buck, whose car are you going to want your sticker on?
Both of them!
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The way I figure it is that anytime I can afford to buy a million + of anything, it's basically worthless. Think about it, what can you actually afford buy a million of? Toothpicks maybe? How are you going to get rich off of them? You're not. Same story here.
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Well if you own some of the toothpick factory... Just kidding,take care all early day tomorrow.
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