I was starting to feel greedy deciding to set aside 235k out of 535k shares for the real long term and big bucks. needed a little reassurance I guess. once again ty
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QBID on the Big Board,,mergers acquisitions,, advertising,, supported customer base,, first to launch,,under 30 days. Possibilities are endless. Realities are happening now. Sorry if this sounds like a pump. Think the last few days of posts and DD by all is very dynamic.
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quote:Originally posted by MW: thanks Whiz and BigTip.
I was starting to feel greedy deciding to set aside 235k out of 535k shares for the real long term and big bucks. needed a little reassurance I guess. once again ty
I really need some assurance. I don't know if often stock research sites are wrong BigTip and MW but when you have information like this below on websites, it kind of makes you second guess yourself. You all do bring up very interesting points, though. I guess I just need a tiny bit more reassurance. What do you guys think about this information on this site ?
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MikeH. That is scary to see but you have to understand, its a pink sheet stock first of all and secondly, that site is for spotting trends. We have been in a downtrend for quite sometime so of course they will have a sell. Just now we're doing a reversal trend.
Also I saw that site say 60% buy while QBID was tanking from .017!
quote:Originally posted by MikeHouston: I really need some assurance. I don't know if often stock research sites are wrong BigTip and MW but when you have information like this below on websites, it kind of makes you second guess yourself. You all do bring up very interesting points, though. I guess I just need a tiny bit more reassurance. What do you guys think about this information on this site ?
quote:Originally posted by 1BigTip: MikeH. That is scary to see but you have to understand, its a pink sheet stock first
I'm sorry I am still new to this. But what the term 'pink sheet stock' mean? You're right Tip, when I randomly put stocks in to see for the most part they were sell, for example, MSFT, CC, BBY, and SIRI so I should really take that information with a grain of salt.
Thanks, Mike
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quote:Originally posted by MikeHouston: But what the term 'pink sheet stock' mean?
Maybe this will help:
A company whose shares are traded on the so-called "pink sheets" is commonly one that does not meet the minimal criteria for capitalization and number of shareholders that are required by the NASDAQ and OTC and most exchanges to be listed there. The "pink sheet" designation is a holdover from the days when the quotes for these stocks were printed on pink paper. "Pink Sheet" stocks have both advantages and disadvantages.
Disadvantages:
1. Thinly traded. Can make it tough (and expensive) to buy or sell shares.
2. Bid/Ask spreads tend to be pretty steep. So if you bought today the stock might have to go up 40-80% before you'd make money. QBID's bid/ask has been extremely close so its so easy to make money.
3. Market makers may be limited. Much discussion has taken place in this group about the effect of a limited number of market makers on thinly traded stocks. (They are the ones who are really going to profit).Key statement there, they can manipulate the stock as low as we are now, hoping we sell to get our shares for cheap
4. Can be tough to follow. Very little coverage by analysts and papers.
Advantages:
1. Normally low priced. Buying a few thousand shares shouldn't cost a lot.
2. Many companies list in the "Pink Sheets" as a first step to getting listed on the National Market. This alone can result in some price appreciation, as it may attract buyers that were previously wary. In other words, there are plenty of risks for the possible reward, but aren't there always?
3. To See over 300% profit the stock probably has to go up a few pennies whereas a big board stock needs to go up dollars.
The National Quotation Bureau maintains the list of pink-sheet stocks. Their site gives the history of the pink-sheet listing service and information about real-time quotes for OTC issues. http://www.nqb.com/
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It's been so hot here in TX. Big, glad to hear things are cooling off in CT...My husband and I lived in D.C. and Fairfax, VA for several years before children....both of us are from TX, so four seasons was a concept we had to adjust to...snow just blew my mind!!(laugh).
Anyway, on to QBID...any thoughts on Monday? I think that if the market improves we could continue the inch upwards, but alot depends on the psychology of investors...everyone is wary and skittish about investing. Hoping that Frank gets a solid pr out this week--this will give everyone a mental "boost!"
Just my take on things right now. Heck, come Monday, I could feel differently...female perogative, you know (laugh). If it pulls back again, I will definitely buy more at the 0036 point...not missing that opportunity again.
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Hi sunny,, We got a nice cool spell in ATL,Just came back from dinner with a friend. Dined outside, fresh seafood and martinis. Hope you get a break from the heat.
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As we all have an interest in QBID, please let us be realistic:
Yes, QTV is poised to see an increase in stock value just because of its current value. As they find carriers and subscribers the stock should and will move up.
However, the magic word is SUBSCRIBERS!
QTV can not be part of your basic cable, basic digital cable, or basic satellite package. Language and graphics in aired programming does not allow that. I like to remind everyone that the FCC is currently in an indecency war with broadcasters! QTV is and will be a subscription service like HBO, Showtime, Playboy, etc. Since QTV appeals to certain subscribers only, the revenue stream is very limited.
That brings me to the next magic word: Revenue!
How much will QBID actually receive from the cable companies? Let us take a look at HBO for an example: The average monthly rate is $12 per subscriber collected by the cable or satellite company. Since both, cable and satellite provider, are retailers of bundled programming services, programming is purchased at wholesale cost. This means, HBO might get $1.50 to $2 per subscriber and month. This does not sound much, but if you multiply this figure by Twenty-million subscribers.....you can do the math! The question is: How many SUBSCRIBERS does QTV anticipate by the end of this year or the end of next year?
Only this will determine where the stock is going!
For QBID hitting $1.00, getting listed on the big board etc. is far fetched at this point. However, a move away from the sub-penny range is truly possible.
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MS_GulfCoast Hi MS,,Please post as QTN not QTV,, they are not the same,,Thanks McFly
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Firefly--Seafood and martinis? You taunt me with adult activities!! (laugh) I had a corndog and drank an apple juicebox for dinner!!! Ah, yes, the joys of being an exhausted parent in the heat of summer... seriously, had a great day...boys played baseball with daddy, bought a new bicycle, played outside, did yardwork, went shopping...it's ALL good. Just hot--heat index was 110 last week. Double yuck! Can we say going swimming???
MS_Gulf...hoping subscribers will sign on because of word of mouth...may gradually increase month by month as word gets out. Bringing in subscribers equates to increased revenue...thinking it will happen in due time!! Go Q! ( I would be so pleased if we hit 015 again...we know it can happen, just a matter of when! All of us will make a decent profit at 015-02 range. Did last time...That's a very fond memory of mine!)(Laugh)
quote:Originally posted by MS_GulfCoast: Question remains: What are the cost to aquire ONE subscriber? Can they be profitable?
Home Box Office is the premium television programming division of Time Warner Entertainment Company, L.P., providing two 24-hour premium television services, HBO and Cinemax. Together, both networks reach nearly 35 million subscribers in the United States via cable, C-band satellite, direct broadcast satellite (DBS) and microwave (MMDS), as well as in the lodging industry. Home Box Office's international ventures bring HBO branded services to more than 40 countries around the globe.
ok MS together both cinemax and hbo reach 35 million subscribers and they estimate there are 20 to 30 million G and L and bisexual adults in the nation. the potential for QTN to become very very profitable is there. I would also think that is HBO is costing subscribers an average of 12 bucks a month that they would at least get 40% of that. I sell wholesale and I sell to the distributor at 44%
I think the hard part is almost done. once on the air with RCN I think its only a matter of time before other carriers pick QTN up. if Frank handles this right over the next few years this could become big. buybacks....sec filing...moved up to at least the otc then hopefully nasdac someday.
lets not forget the possibility of a huge temporary price spike fueled by the launch. it can happen in the pinks. look up BBAN go back about 5 years and if I remember correctly it went from .07 to 12 bucks a share in a few weeks then went down to almost nothing just as fast. there is no telling what can happen in the pinks.
just My two cents worth and probably overpriced at that.
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MW--Good Morning!!!! Wondering what tomorrow will bring us..
Anyway, I was reading the New York Times Business section this morning and found something interesting.
Cox Communications stock is now up to $33.15 because of a 7.9 billion proposal to take the company private...thought this was interesting just because I'm hoping QTN gets signed on with them, too!!
and; Univision--"the largest Spanish-language television and radio broadcaster in the nation said its net income in the second quarter soared 63 percent because it sold more advertising." It closed Friday at $34.16! (yes, I know, it's listed on the NYSE)
I guess my point here is that Univision definetly has a "niche" or a group that they obviously market to...I realize that there are more spanish-speaking individuals than there are gay/lesbians, but my point is that the potential is here...if the pps of QBID just goes up a fraction of what Univision's currently is, we will all be happy, so will Frank! Just wanted to give an example of how well a market-specific broadcaster can work. Also reinforced how advertising can boost revenues...think of all the advertisers that will jump on QTN once it is available to the masses. As Diana says, Potential is Priceless.
Hope I don't get eaten alive for posting this info, just thought it was worth sharing with you all.
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good morning to you also sunny. I keep popping into the computer room every couple of hours and then going back to watch tv in the front room so it may take a couple hours to get a reply from me. lol
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Remember most spanish Families tend to be sorta big, not a lot of diaposable income to go around, versus Gays where only 20% of gay couples have children, which translates to MUCH more disposable income...
Many gay people will rent summer homes on Long Island, at points from Long Beach to the Hamptons at rates at 10k a MONTH to as high as 30-40k a month... Just to rent a summer home. However keep in mind many of the Gays in New York tend to be very well off. or Just well off If you have 15k to blow on a summer home for a month or even for three months, that says a lot...
I barely have enough money for a candy bar,lol (Thats because I spent in on CMKX)
-John-
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just did a little checking and the most recent census data I came across was for 2000.
in 2000 there were 23 million hispanics in the us so that puts QTN on about the same potential customer base as univision.
now I havent found out what univisions O/S is or any other data on them but hey if they can do it with about the same target customer base as QTN then its possible for Q to do it also.
Frank if your reading this please dont screw up. lol
just my two cents worth and probably overpriced at that
Remember most spanish Families tend to be sorta big, not a lot of diaposable income to go around, versus Gays where only 20% of gay couples have children, which translates to MUCH more disposable income...
Many gay people will rent summer homes on Long Island, at points from Long Beach to the Hamptons at rates at 10k a MONTH to as high as 30-40k a month... Just to rent a summer home. However keep in mind many of the Gays in New York tend to be very well off. or Just well off If you have 15k to blow on a summer home for a month or even for three months, that says a lot...
I barely have enough money for a candy bar,lol (Thats because I spent in on CMKX)
-John-
well if the gay people can afford vacation homes at those prices then maybe they can make me rich enough so I can afford em too lol. I can buy a candy bar but not much more than that lol. spent a grand the other day just on luggage and clothes for my vacation coming up.
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Hey there MW and JB--See I was thinking that way too. Thought that Gay/Lesbians do have a heck of a lot more disposable income and subscribing to QTN is something they would probably do...so, glad to see someone was able to follow my path of thinking....not easy to do according to my husband (laugh)... Anyway, just thought it was interesting to see that univision's pps was about $34 per share!! All I was is a mere fraction of that !! Come on QTN!!
Going walking now and try to envision my portfolio in a month. (lol)
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Don't get me wrong any sgement of society would have a lot more money if there were little to no children, ya know
I see many gay people paying the small cost of $100-$150 a year this Network may cost them. To many of them that is the cost of a non-expensive dinner for THEMSELVES, lol...
This is why I really feel this network will be a success, there is so much potential money that can be tapped by such an inexpensive medium...
-John-
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yes the potential is awesome. another thing that has been mentioned that I havent commented about is advertisers. I could not even take a guess at what kind of revenue Q could get from advertisers if they had 5 million subscribers.
the hard part for me is trying to figure out what kind of long term potential there really is here so I can come up with a good exit point.
I cant wait till september for launch lol I want it now. the suspense is killing me.
By: whizknock 08 Aug 2004, 03:21 PM EDT Msg. 487333 of 487376 Jump to msg. # **** Attention QBID investors!****
Ever ask yourself why bashers don't compile a list of Broadcasting National TV Networks that trade for under $1 a share?
They don't exsist!
Most Broadcasting National TV Networks had to prove their worth before they ever launched!
QBID is no exception!
When others watch the future unfold & write how surprised they are at how high our share price climbs,,,
I'll be happy,,, but I will not be surprised!
Those that do not hold a strong diciplined core position will be really pissed at new investors that bought their shares & proclaim how obvious this play was. After all,,,
"All we ever had to do is launch!" ----------------------------------------------------------
I was asked this question,,,,
By: boxingpop 08 Aug 2004, 04:19 PM EDT Msg. 487366 of 487376 (This msg. is a reply to 487333 by whizknock.) Jump to msg. #
just how high do you expect this stock price to fo up in the near future -----------------------------------------------------------
To which I responded,,,,
By: whizknock 08 Aug 2004, 05:08 PM EDT Msg. 487376 of 487376 (This msg. is a reply to 487366 by boxingpop.) Jump to msg. # **Boxingpop!**
I'm not even concerned with the near term! I'm holding every share I have for at least a year as I want to benifit from the spikes we get when LOGO's feeble attempts to play catch up bring to bear huge Viacom influence & shine a light on this sector in which we dominate.
However since you ask. My friend 1BigTip sees 10 cents buy Christmas & if all goes well that projection may prove to be very very conservative!
Remember!
"All we had to do was launch!" ----------------------------------------------------------
Am I the only one that sees this schitt this clearly?
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On my way to Lake Compounce in Bristol,CT I passed by the ESPN headquarters. It reminded me of that picture of Frank and the big Satelite dish because there were HUGE dishes out front.
Point of the story is that I continue to think Frank will grow the company to be huge and eventually get a larger square footage free standing headquarter with 10+ Satelite dishes like ESPN.
Just imagine.
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quote:Originally posted by 1BigTip: On my way to Lake Compounce in Bristol,CT I passed by the ESPN headquarters. It reminded me of that picture of Frank and the big Satelite dish because there were HUGE dishes out front.
Point of the story is that I continue to think Frank will grow the company to be huge and eventually get a larger square footage free standing headquarter with 10+ Satelite dished like ESPN.
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nope, i cannot locate any information about logo delay. only one article quoted this ( link posted somewhere in this thread ), thats all. Untill we see offcial viacom pr regarding this, we need to assume that heavy player coming to market feb 05.
quote:Originally posted by suzainiee: Mike, I'm just speaking for myself, but think that others would agree with the old saying, " Don't put all of your eggs in one basket." Anything can happen with stocks. Also, keep some emergency funds available in your savings. Everyone has an opinion on QBID--it is quite a ride--up-down-up. I can't disagree with any of the above posts--they all make sense to me. You have at LEAST two nights to sleep on it! You do fine.
Anonymous_lurker, I read the KY link. Again Logo's launch is given as Feb. 05. This and the Cher article from last week are current. Have you found anything to explain the "other" date of Oct 05?
Had a great day today! Walked, went swimming, grilled, and now here I am waiting for opening bell already!! Certainly am hoping for a better market performance tomorrow. Also hoping to see a pr...patience.
Hope everyone had a great weekend...am looking forward to 'seeing' you all in the morning. Looking forward to good things happening soon for all of us. Hang on and keep the faith!
Like everyone, I'm wishing to hear of more progress being made, especially news about that darn NY office and more carriers.
out for now.
P.S. just curious, but, how much are large (biggie) cokes around the country? Odd question I know, but here large drinks are up to 1.39 + tax...just curious!
quote:Originally posted by sunny: P.S. just curious, but, how much are large (biggie) cokes around the country?
Where I was today we had free coke all day! It was a theme park and water rides and drinks were free at every location throughout the park! Imagine all the coke you can get Sunny!
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Just finished watching an interview with a CEO of a company (forgot which) and he used many examples of how to get a company to succeed. A question was asked "how do you get around the gatekeepers, Secretaries, assistants, managers, ect. to get to the top executives? He said you cant, unless the top executives are looking for you.
He then went on to compare the competitors. Picture climbing a Corporate ladder like climbing a mountain with snow. There will be others with you at the bottom and many will make it someway up, but the farther up you are the less competitors you have! Just like Nextel.
Q Television has snowmobiles and they will get to the top fast, while the others find the right jackets to put on.
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These guys were fishing on a boat at a pond. They made a bet to see who can walk across the pond. One guy went, SPLASH. 2nd guy tried, SPLASH. 3rd guy walked all the way across and back and all the guys asked " How did you do that? " The 3rd guy replied, "It was easy once I knew where the rocks were"
Point? Watch the mistakes of others and use the rocks to your advantage.
Hence: KEEP QUIET FRANK. DON'T LET THE OTHERS SEE THOSE ROCKS!
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Thanks for looking. I remember seeing the 10-05 link or article on the thread. We will know for sure by mid-September at the latest. The other cable companies have to pay Viacom to carry MTV and VH1. LOGO would be in that category too--they don't have to split the profit in Viacom's (their own) broadcast areas, right? Viacom would have to split profits if they should want to carry QTN. Hmmmm, does V. want to split profits with anyone? GLTA QBIDERS!
quote:Originally posted by anonymous_lurker: nope, i cannot locate any information about logo delay. only one article quoted this ( link posted somewhere in this thread ), thats all. Untill we see offcial viacom pr regarding this, we need to assume that heavy player coming to market feb 05.
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