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JBCak47
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richness you IDIOT

"NO ONE CARRIER/ADVERTISER KNOW THIS COMPANY"

THERE IS A PR WITH A CONTRACT WITH TIME WARNER

We were shown on COMCAST AND COX CABLE, THOSE ARE THREE CARRIERS WHO HAVE HEARD OF US.

See, this guy really is an idiot...

Cox Cable of New Orleans.

COMCAST Cable of Washington...

BUT YES, NO ONE HAS HEARD OF US!!! IDIOT!

-John


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quote:
Originally posted by richnessforeveryone:
rchaud....
Thousand, thousand, thousand thanks for your DD..........
You saved me a lot of hours for explain this to the dreamers here.......
Like you said....NEVER INVEST (AGAIN)IN PINKSHEET STOCKS......LOOK AT QBID.....NO ONE CARRIER/ADVERTISER KNOW THIS COMPANY
People must understand that MM's conspiracy and naked shorting is a dream.....
Pumper always use this theory for explain a low pps.
A pps reflect always the reality or do you think that MM's only short stocks ?????


Should I tell my accountant to give back the 10K profit I made on QBID because it was just a dream.

GET REAL!! Money can be made by playing the swings. Who ever said that we all were in these companies for life.

You people who don't think you can make money on pinks need to go back to the blue chips.


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quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:

Should I tell my accountant to give back the 10K profit I made on QBID because it was just a dream.

GET REAL!! Money can be made by playing the swings. Who ever said that we all were in these companies for life.

You people who don't think you can make money on pinks need to go back to the blue chips.


Very nicely stated, JP.


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quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
richness you IDIOT

"NO ONE CARRIER/ADVERTISER KNOW THIS COMPANY"

THERE IS A PR WITH A CONTRACT WITH TIME WARNER

We were shown on COMCAST AND COX CABLE, THOSE ARE THREE CARRIERS WHO HAVE HEARD OF US.

See, this guy really is an idiot...

Cox Cable of New Orleans.

COMCAST Cable of Washington...

BUT YES, NO ONE HAS HEARD OF US!!! IDIOT!

-John


JBCak.......you poor man....
Have you see QBID pps today ????
No ??????
Than look at him....lol


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quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:

Should I tell my accountant to give back the 10K profit I made on QBID because it was just a dream.

GET REAL!! Money can be made by playing the swings. Who ever said that we all were in these companies for life.

You people who don't think you can make money on pinks need to go back to the blue chips.


Like I said it many thimes....EVEN WITH A SCAM YOU CAN MAKE MONEY...but you take enormous risks like I know many people don't invested only a few $$$$ but thousands on them......burned money if yo don't sold at 0.001


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quote:
Originally posted by richnessforeveryone:
Like I said it many thimes....EVEN WITH A SCAM YOU CAN MAKE MONEY...but you take enormous risks like I know many people don't invested only a few $$$$ but thousands on them......burned money if yo don't sold at 0.001

And people buy lottery tickets. What's your point. Are you on the corner next to the party store telling them not to buy???

If an investor is not smart enough to not risk more than they can lose should they even play in pennyland?


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quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
And people buy lottery tickets. What's your point. Are you on the corner next to the party store telling them not to buy???

If an investor is not smart enough to not risk more than they can lose should they even play in pennyland?


Ok...but for take the money the lottery tickets brought you you need to cash him over a certain laps of time otherwise he will lose his value.....capito????
Perhaps I need to tell it you in French or German ????


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Richness, forgive me but I don't understand your last post!!

No, I don't understand. And I prefer English. LOL


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I am queen of the jungle....any body want to see my resume...

By the way Wallace if you so educated and experienced, then what are you doing in pinks.

And you still did not answer my simple question: Why you hate CMKX so much?

I cannot believe I am getting myself into this mess.....


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quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
I am queen of the jungle....any body want to see my resume...
I cannot believe I am getting myself into this mess.....

Does it involve leopard skin?? LOL


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quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Does it involve leopard skin?? LOL

Yes, and as a bonus you get the lion skin. Which one do you prefer, mama or papa skin? lol Just kiddin'!


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'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller


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quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Yes, and as a bonus you get the lion skin. Which one do you prefer, mama or papa skin? lol Just kiddin'!


I am like a kid in the candy store, I want both


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Sounds good, what's your size, so we can start shrinking or stretching process....and hurry only few left. lol
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46L, make that 48L. I have some stocks that I think might go up and make me fat, dumb, and happy. Looks like I am 2/3 there. LOL
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Richness: You say pumpers use "naked short" to explain low pps. That may be true in some cases, but how about cases like CMKX where billions upon billions traded, with no increase/decrease in pps? It is a "more than reasonable" explanation to this type of pps behavior considering the volume, right?

The name of this thread takes ALL CREDIBILITY away from Rchaud or whatever his name is. You labeled yourself a paid basher the second you named this thread. Good job.

[This message has been edited by HarryHar (edited July 06, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by HarryHar (edited July 06, 2004).]


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Check your mail in the near future, putting on the stretcher as we write....lol Your invoice, is priceless.
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quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Check your mail in the near future, putting on the stretcher as we write....lol Your invoice, is priceless.

Can I pay with diamonds??


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I hate to bump this up, but after reading Wally's little life story I had to laugh.I haven't seen that much bull$hit since I went to the radio.
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quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Can I pay with diamonds??

Oh dear, they are my best friend! Skin for diamond, best deal in a life time, so others get in while you can, because you will need many skins for such deal later!

[This message has been edited by TradingWizard (edited July 06, 2004).]


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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH


GUESS WHAT CMKX CLOSED AT .0004


QUICK TRY TO SPIN MORE LIES ON NAKED SHORTING BRINGING THE PRICE DOWN!! QUICK SAY IT WAS PART OF UC's MASTER PLAN!!!


NOT

Friday this stock will be testing .0003/.0002

the SCAM IS OVER and thanks to all the pumpers that made me a profit from .0004 bursting up to .0011


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Re: No PR = ZERO Credibility...!!
« Reply #64 on: Today at 7:24pm »
hey pheenix i don't take offense to the fact that you call me a basher....cause all you add to the info surrounding this stock are dreams of one dollar in a week...simply isn't going to happen...i on the other hand have realistic information...i have done serious DD and have access to people you have no idea even exist...and the only reason i am still in this stock is because of the information i am given...but i can tell you this...if you put all your promise on melvin you are destined to be taken for a ride...while melvin might be an outstanding human being...he is not in the loop...he has backstepped on all the promises he declares on IBC and on the previous CMKX board...i would supply you with my links and contacts for my DD but it isn't any use...people believe here what they want to believe and believe the theories that promote the most promise for PPS appreciation...it is obvious when you point out facts on this board you are called a basher...people here are blindly putting their faith in certain people without getting to the root of issues...i am in this stock for now...but i constantly review my position and if these things about T/A and share structure aren't cleared up soon i am out...there has been plenty of time to address these issues and they aren't addressed soon...somebody i feel is trying to hide something

http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&start=20


lol it's all falling apart


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Doing some DD (or rather a research on bashers). Enjoy!

A BASHERS HANDBOOK: know the enemy who wishes to steal your money! Do not underestimate a bashers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book" so to speak. Learn from it or donate your money to those who make an organized plan to steal your money!

BASHERS DO THE FOLLOWING:
1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a support base before initiating your bashing routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build to it.
8. Identify your foes (hypsters) and the boards "guru" Use them to your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "basher". Newbies won't know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, DO NOT NAME CALL and DO NOT USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people for taking the companies word for anything. Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the hypsters into personal debates putting their focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts. Show them the facts from a "different angle."
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to instead of the one your bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules.

GRADE YOUR FAVORITE BASHER:

Advanced Basher:
Will join the message board early and actually "pump" the stock with positives; this basher is very intelligent, has the facts of the company, actually helps longs with Due Diligence and generally gets the confidence of the stockholders. Then, when the stock hits their price, the tone will change and they will start asking longs to check into this and check into that. The seeds of doubt are being planted. This basher will then start using all the tactics listed on this page to create seeds of doubt. ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PROFILE OF A PERSON YOU SUSPECT. ASK WHAT STOCKS THEY'VE "SUPPORTED" IN THE PAST AND CHECK OUT THE MESSAGE BOARD. An honest person will have a positive track record that can be followed. I strongly believe that a contrary view is needed but this person is out to steal your money and does it by deception and creates fear after gaining confidence! BEWARE, this is the most clever basher and the hardest to spot.

Grade A Basher:
Posts lots of old news, responds to all positive posts with a negative side. Never responds to being called a basher, never posts on another board. Can spend up to 80 hours a week bashing a stock.

Grade B Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.

Grade C Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.

Grade D Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week. Grade F Basher: A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.

WHY BASH?: MONEY (the usual reason), SPORT, ENTERTAINMENT. Some bashers are compelled to bash because they are inherently a part of the dark side of life so they must do it. It's a sad fact but never the less, a fact. It's life so you must learn how to deal with it or become a victim!

LEARN ABOUT HOW BASHERS WORK: how they are paid: (this was written by a basher) I know the following from a "friend" who needed extra money. I never answer a basher directly because I then become a basher's little money machine.
IGNORE THEM FOLKS...how bashers are paid: When you REPLY to bashers you give them an opportunity to earn 5-7 bucks. The service agreement they enter into with their employer states their messages will be monitored for content, profanity, lies, etc. but Money Manager's and the like don't have the time to check all their bashers messages. Only occasional spot checks are done. Those who manage the basher will generally read the headlines to see if a basher is replying to other posters by name. That tells them the basher isn't just "posting blindly" or repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay for those. A basher will attempt to milk three to five replies per post at one to two dollars each. This way the basher spreads negative influence to as many stockholders as possible. A basher will create this discussion thread because it takes less time reading more messages than is necessary. This ultimately allows the basher more time to post and make money. In general, NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER. Make them read all the posts and think up ways to enter the discussion.

NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE BASHER'S AID! Read the news ,do your own homework and make your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple of weeks. Due Diligence is key here. Know that there will be a time when the stock runs up which will be followed by the Bashers and those that missed the boat. The bashers will trash the stock by saying such things as "it's a Pump and Dump" and "the company is lying" and deceiving. There goal is to scare off newbies and potential new investors by "shaking" you out of your shares. Take the time to confirm your DD ,trust your own judgment and believe in yourself, pick your point of return or loss and live with it. Don't listen to hype or bashers trust your own judgment. Live by the rules you have created .

BASHER TESTIMONIAL and APOLOGY: found on Internet: 03/23/2000

"I would just like to confirm that it is true, there are companies that pay to have people post negatively on stock message boards. It is more in the area of $20-$25 per post for top performers though. How do I know? I was one. And I got bonuses when my company made exceptional gains. And it's 100% legal!

The fact is that there are so many green daytraders out there that look to these boards for advice and twice as many scammers that....well.....get the point?

My advice is to listen to people that rarely post but do sound intelligent (the ones that post negative stuff all the time are trying to manipulate the market and are probably paid to do it). And most importantly! Read News Releases! and research their impact on that stock.

More reading source: http://www.hedge-hog.com/bbs/pennystockmessages/17973.html


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Topic: No PR = ZERO Credibility...!! (Read 2508 times)
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Re: No PR = ZERO Credibility...!!
« Reply #45 on: Today at 1:32pm »
How's this for proof of some kind of a TA problem...??

From Ameritrade...
We recently received your request to have a certificate issued for the CMKM DIAMONDS INC currently held in your account. However, we are unable to process your request at this time. We have received notification that the shares are nontransferable. The transfer agent for this company is not currently printing certificates for this security.

If the security is no longer trading and you wish to remove the position from your account you may request to sell the entire position to Ameritrade for a sum totaling one dollar. A commission of no more than the current broker-assisted rate will be charged for the transaction. This transaction will generate a trade confirmation and will be irreversible.

To begin the processing, the "Request for Removal of a Non-marketable Security" form will need to be completed and signed by all account holders and received by Ameritrade. The form may be faxed to 816-243-3769, or mailed to Ameritrade at 1005 North Ameritrade Place, Bellevue, NE, 68005. You will find this form on the Ameritrade Web site under Miscellaneous Forms

I am also still waiting for a reply from Ameritrade about who the current TA is.

Tony.
http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&num=1089126981&action=display&start=45


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I thought I include some good reading instead of this nonsense:

PUMP & DUMP vs SHORT & DISTORT
Most traders have heard and read of the Pump & Dump scheme. But very little has been written about the other side of the trade or its opposite, which is the Short & Distort.

Lets take the Short & Distort scheme and apply it to the rules of Pump & Dump for stock manipulators.

In order to make these market manipulations work, the professionals assume:

(a) The Public is STUPID and
(b) The Public will mainly buy at the HIGH and
(c) The Public will sell at the LOW.

Therefore, as long as the market manipulator can run crowd control, he can be successful in his agenda of stock manipulation by controlling the market's greed and fear.

STAGES FOR THE DEADLY ART OF STOCK MANIPULATION
The Pump & Dump Scheme
Stage 1: The Acquisition of shares.
Please note: all sharp price movements, whether up or down, are the result of one or more, usually a group, professionals manipulating the share price.

(Loading): In stage I of a Pump & Dump scheme Manipulators after acquiring their shares leak information and pump the stock to get buyers silently. This leads to front loading also.

Stage 2: The Promotional Campaign!
Note: this is designed to spread a rumor/story and to play on the emotional greed of a pie in the sky find. It begins to spread across the financial world. Joe public rushes in not to miss the next gold rush.
(PUMP/Greed) Newsletter writers are hired -- either secretly or not -- to cheerlead a stock. PR firms are hired and let loose upon an unsuspecting public. Contracts to appear on radio talk shows are signed and implemented. An advertising campaign is rolled out (television ads, newspaper ads, card deck mailings, e-mails, etc.).

The company signs up to exhibit at "investment conferences" and "shows" (mainly so they can get a little "podium time" to hype their stock and tell you how "their company is really different" and "not a stock promotion.") Funny little "hype" messages are posted on Internet newsgroups. BTW the more, the merrier. 1000% returns are projected.

Stage 3: The infamous DUMP!
(DUMP) The once low volume that caused a bit of a spike suddenly changes to big volume. The stock manipulators sell out their positions into the new buying brought on by the promotion campaign.

Stage 4: The Silence or News Vacuum!
(Silence) No more news or insider leaks of information to pump the stock to get buyers. The front loading sells out. The silence plays on the emotional fear of being hoodwinked. Negative opinions begin to spread across the financial world. Joe public sells out to cut their losses. The really slick market manipulators would even seed the Internet news groups or other journalists to plant negative stories about that company. Or start a propaganda campaign of negative rumors on all available communication vessels.

Stage 5: The Distortion!
(Gone/Waiting/Shorting):

Stage 6: The Accumulation!
(Gone/Waiting/Buying): If the manipulator sees an opportunity the stock is on the floor and not part of the Short & Distort campaign they will begin buying back and slowly accumulating. As the Shorters were shorting the first manipulator was selling, so now it goes the other way. Buying to put pressure on the shorter to cover. Accumulation by new investors and averaging down of old investors are leads to the pressure on the short.

STAGES FOR THE DEADLY ART OF STOCK MANIPULATION
The Short & Distort Scheme

Stage I: Monitoring
In stage I of a Short & Distort scheme Short groups Monitor spikes in volumes on stocks with no rumors.

Stage 2: Flagging
Shorts Flag stocks that run up then sits back and wait patiently for their time.

Stage 3: Preparation
The Shorters research the company and develop their Distortion of the rumors to be used later.

Stage 4: Actual Shorting
The shorts step in selling on every possible up tick. This is the Reverse of front loading. Preparations are made to attack the guy who had earlier written positively about the company and take out, discredit, any new long-term champions or messengers.

Stage 5: Distortion Campaign
The shorts step in and increase selling on every possible up tick. Just as with the pump, newsletters, e-mail, PR firms against P & D, etc. are simulated. Expertise in the field is recruited for credibility. Any possible twist using POS (Purposely Omitted Syntax) and PAS (Purposely Added Syntax) is conveniently used on every possible angle. If the POS/PAS is discovered then attack the messenger. Above all control the message boards.

The group clutters the message boards so no positive information can be readily found. Justification is the Value of the Company in the market. Projections of $0.00 worth and loss projections of 100%

Note: The market manipulator will do everything in his/her power to keep buyers OUT OF THE STOCK. Cut your losses is touted to stimulate fear. You bought higher but now they need you to sell lower.

Stage 6: Pressure
The shorts have taken it too far. The volume is increasing and the price is not effectively dropping. A stalemate occurs. Personal attacks increase. Threats of legal action, SEC involvement, and yes even death threats increase. Increased secret IDs are employed to increase the cluttering, personal attacks and the distortion. So begins a string of lies that run for as long as one's stomach can take it. Desperately playing on the "you have been had" scenario. Any new news will be hit it hard by shorters to kill any interest.

Note: Watch the volume not the share price. A market manipulator will have various brokers buying and selling the stock to give the APPEARANCE of increasing volume but the price goes down. Thus stimulating the story the company is selling or an off shore reg S or other convenient scenario. Watch for large blocks that show up but have a MM special code, cross overs, etc.

Stage 7: The Cover
Without warning the buying pressure is too much and the short begins to cover. Short covering combined with new investors buying into the stock causes the stock to go up. Often the whole thing starts again. Just a vicious cycle sometimes.
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Note: Pump & Dump schemes I have seen are investigated by the SEC most of the time, however the Short & Distort scheme is not apparently high on the SEC's agenda. The shorts, unlike the dumper though, has an unlimited loss factor should the stock price go up.
Remember this is just our personal opinion. Check with a licensed financial professional on all matters of the stock market.

Credit for post to Ga Bard

Source: http://members.tripod.com/foolsgold77/pump.htm


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called melvin today and i am done with him
« Thread started on: Today at 7:34pm »
called him and asked what the situation was with the T/A fiasco...he told me "apparently" he used this word to start....but the rest is paraphrased...apparently we picked up the papers from pacific and urban incorporated a new company of his own to do the job as the new T/A...i asked him if he has spoke to melvin about it and he said no....i asked him how are investors going to arrive at the truth if no PR is released...i mentioned to him that he said that if it isn't in a PR then don't believe so i asked him why their was no PR explaining the situation...he told me he had no idea and that i had a good point...i asked him about drilling...he said they are currently not drilling because they are waiting on permits...to sum it up...i get no info out of melvin he seems to me to be totally out of the loop...i would like other people to call him and and report back with their findings...he gives the quick short answers to your questions and doesn't ellaborate on anything...
http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1089160487

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Re: No PR = ZERO Credibility...!!
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I understand fully why is everyone so frustrated, it seems to me we're lacking leadership in a time when we REALLY need it. UC, Melvin (?), Roger ect....letting the MM's take over in a time when the company really need to work hard on effective communications through meatty PR's, enough with PR's about message boards and two PR's about the T/A that almost look identical (unless I missed something)...PR's are the communication vehicle of a company, and what I mean by communication, NOT telling me that you shut down the message board, we have reall problems that we need to address, O/S, A/S float, sample results etc....speaking of communication, have anybody heard UC speaking in public about the progress of our company, I think when a company faces issues like this, CEO's are all OVER the media boosting the morale of the shareholders, no offence to Melvin but I would like for UC to join Mevlin in Media apearences and so on.....
http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&num=1089126981&action=display&start=15

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Interesting reading:

Shorts on Message Boards
Do you even know how "shorts" work ? They bet that a stock will go down,just like you bet a stock will go up. Now a year ago when I asked broker friends of mine if the internet message boards will have any affect on a stock. They ALL laughed at me and said those idiots having an affect on a stock !
Well I asked those same friends this last week, and the answer from all YES! message boards and "shorts"(some) can manipulate with lies, and deceit. Let me tell you what I have seen on two different boards .

One stock was $8 and a "pack" of shorts come on and posted total lies about SEC violations,and "class action lawsuits".There was 15-20 of these manipulating "shorts". The stock went from $8 to $6 overnight without cause -just these manipulating "packs" posting total lies.

Another board I had seen about 15 months ago had a bunch of "regulars" on the board. Problem was these "regulars" were the nicest bunch of mostly elderly people you would want to know and talk with. The stock was about $18 and then came "the pack" of shorts. There were again 15-20 of them. They got the elderly so scared that they would not fight and just stopped posting. Thus leaving the board totally to these manipulating "shorts".

The stock went from $18 to $10 without reason just lies posted by these liars. Do you understand a little now? Let me say this to you and I want you and the whole board to think about this statement.

IT IS EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK.

Now think about that, you have elderly that invest and find their way to the message boards only to see false posts about "SEC Violations" and "Class action suits" or you have a Yuppie with a kid to put in college going to these message boards only to see posts by 15-20 (probably 5 or 6 under alias) "pack of shorts" posting the same false stuff about SEC Violations or lawsuits or "there's bad news coming out" ....what do you think they will do ?

Let me ask you people who don't like my attacking back ways, language etc... Do you think for that elderly person and that Yuppie with the college kid -that it would be easier to take the money out of the stock with these rumors and put the money back into the bank? Another question :do you think it is easier to take money out of the bank and invest it into stock....or easier to take the money out of the stock and put it back into a safe bank ?

It's easier to sell the stock and put the money into the bank for nervous people like the elderly and the Yuppie who needs college funds.

THAT'S WHO THE PACK OF SHORTS PRAY ON AND DEPEND ON.

They bet on a stock to go down-not up! . Understand? And they have just as much money and risk as you. But they have the edge of fear, lies, falsehoods to post and pray on the nervous. Longs don't have that.

Credit for post to skidiver3

Source: http://members.tripod.com/foolsgold77/shorts_messageboards.htm


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MMs Comments

I was an OTC MM for about 10 years ending in the late 80's. Since then I have been strictly an investor. Since I have not been that up to date in MM rules I will only make statements that I feel fairly confident are still accurate regarding these activities. By and large most MM don't have a clue nor do they care to learn, about the fundamentals of the stocks they trade.

They just try to make orderly markets. When dealing with BB stocks it is very easy for a MM to get trapped into being short in dealing in a fast moving market. Reason being; most of the MM's in this stock are what are called "wholesalers" this means they don't have retail brokers "working" the stocks.

So they have to rely on what's known as the "call" from larger retail houses. If a "Big" retail firm like an E-trade calls up a market maker to purchase say 5,000 shares of a stock, they expect to get an "execution" from that market maker. If he turns them down, or only gives a partial then the "Big" firm will go to another MM.

If this second MM "fills the order" then that "Big" firm has a moral obligation to continue to give future "business" in that stock to that MM who performed (his life blood). This will go on until he "fails" to perform and so on.

Contrary to popular opinion the "Big" firms Do NOT neccessarily go to the "Low Offer" to fill a buy order (Or high bid for a sell). They "Go" to who they think will perform to fill the order and expect that MM to "match" the "low offer" in the case of a buy (bid in the case of a sell). Even though this MM might in fact be the "high bid" and not really want to sell any more.

As a wholesaler he must perform or he will get a reputation as a "non-performer" with the "Big" houses and will cease getting "calls" which means he will soon go out of business. I mentioned above that this activity is very significant to BB stocks. I say this because most of the trades in these BB stocks are "unsolicited" and are done through discount houses.

With the above groundwork laid, let me try to explain how market makers get short even if they like the Company; Lets say that a stock (shell) has been lying quietly at $.25 bid $.50 offered. A limit order comes into one of the MM's to Buy at $.50 for a thousand shares. Prior to this trade that MM may be "flat" (neither long or short any shares). He fills the order and is now short 1,000 shares. He may raise his bid hoping to find a seller to "flatten" out his position. But before he realizes it a wave of buyers have come in and cleared out all the $.50 offers. Now the stock is $.50 bid .75 offered. Here comes that "Big" firm he just sold the 1,000 shares to at .50 with another bid for 1000 at .75. He makes this print. Now he is short 2,000 at an average of .625. The market keeps moving and now its .75 bid 1.00 offered. Now he has to make a decision.

Just like investors, MM Hate to take a loss. So 9 times out of 10 he will now sell 2000 at 1.00 making him short 4000 but with an average .81. At this time he would love to see a seller at .75 so he can cover his short and make a few bucks.

But instead the market keeps moving up. Now it is 1.00 to 1.25 and here comes the buyer again at 1.25. He doesn't want to lose the call so now he needs to sell 4,000 at 1.25 to keep his break even point above the bid. Now he is short 8,000. Market moves up to 1.25 bid 1.50 offer here comes the buyer now he feels he must sell 8000 here because "stocks don't go up forever".

Now he is short 16,000. And so on and so on. If the stock keeps moving up, before he realizes it he could be short 50k or 100k shares (depending how big his bank is).

Finally the market closes for the day and on paper he may look all right in that his "break even" price may be around the closing price. But now he has to figure out how to entice sellers so he can cover this short. It is important to note that if this happened to one MM it has probably happened to most all of them.

Some ways MM's entice sellers; Run the stock up with a "tight spread" in a fast market, then "open" up the spread to slow down the buying interest. After it has "cooled off" for a little while lower the offer below the last trade right after a small piece trades on the offer then tighten the spread so that the sellers feel they can take a "quick profit" by "hitting the bid" on the tight spread.

Once the selling starts the MM's will walk it down quickly by only making small prints on the way down with the tight spread. Another way is by running the stock up in the morning, averaging up their short then use the above technique to walk it down in the afternoon.

Hopefully after doing this for several days, it will demoralize the buyers. The volume will dry up and the sellers will materialize thinking that the game is over.

Contrary to popular opinion, MM usually Do Not Cover in Fast moving markets either Up or Down if they are short. They Short More. They usually try to cover after the frenzy is out of the market. There are many other techniques they use but the above are the most popular.

This technique works about 9 times out of 10 particularly in a BB market. However that is because 9 out of 10 BB stocks are BS. Remember what I said above. Most MM's don't have a clue as to the value of a Company until they get trapped. If the Company has solid fundementals and a bright future. Then the stock will do very well. And the activity that caused the situation will prove to even help the future stock activity because it created an audience."

Copied from Raging Bull Board (Cardshark_1999)

Source: http://members.tripod.com/foolsgold77/mmcomments.htm


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I know I am bumping this thread up, but I am filling with good reads and for good cause (educational):

Getting Started

1. Determine and set your investment goals: Are you a short, medium, or long term investor?

2. Determine how much money you are willing to lose: This may sound backwards because you are investing to make money not to lose money, but it is important to allocate your capital into controlled risk segments (High, Medium, Low). Depending on your investment goals, it is important that you predetermine how much capital you plan on using to invest in risky investments. In other words, don't invest your food money. Be smart and invest according to your means not your dreams.

3. Research which online brokerage you want to use and open an account: Look at what each online brokerage has to offer. All are unique and each offers something different. And remember, sometimes costs of trading are not the only factor. Look at the quality of customer service as the key factor as well as the speed of transactions.

4. Do your 'due diligence': Talk to Analysts, Management, and other investors. Read the company's quarterly and annual reports. Check the public fillings. Know what you are investing in. This is what separates an investor from a daytrader.

5. Ignore external noises such as bashers, hypsters, and sometimes the media: If you have done your 'due diligence' and you know what you are investing in, you will find that others may not agree with you or may agree with you all to well. Never invest with your emotions. Invest with facts.

6. Make your trade: Congratulations you are now an investor.

7. Set target sell and/or average down prices: It's important to set goals for your investments so you don't get emotional when your investment rockets up or drops down in value.

8. Keep to your targets: Never look back. If you sell and the investment goes up, don't punish yourself. If you buy and the investment goes down, don't punish yourself. If you did your due diligence and you made some money or will make some money in the near future, why worry? Only adjust your targets if new positive or negative circumstances arise which will obvious change the value of your investments.

9. Remember, fear and greed rule the market: Yes facts and figures are important, but emotions rule the investors mindset. The question is, will you let it rule your mindset?

10. Take the weekends off: Don't look at your portfolio or the markets on the weekends, it'll drive you crazy. You can't buy or sell on the weekends, so worrying about your portfolio when you should be relaxing will only make you nervous about your investments. Kick back and relax on the weekends!

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Monitoring Stock Message Boards

Scammers are usually new to the chat board. They usually sign up specifically to bash or hype that investment. Sometimes there will be a long time basher or hypster, but this is rare.
Scammers usually cross promote other investments. Bashers usually attack one investment and promote another one as being better or the real thing. Hypsters usually hype one investment and hype several others along with it to the board they are hyping on.
Scammers usually pretend to be someone or something they are not. They usually claim to be in the investment industry, a friend of someone in the company, or sometimes they gender switch.
Scammers appear to be strong. People listen to strong minded people and people who appear to be intelligent. Scammers try to portray themselves are strong people who are in the know.
Scammers usually encourage investors to call the company. After making bold statements, scammers will tell the investors on the chat board to call the company because investors will rarely call the company. Since no one actually verifies the statement made by the basher or hypster the statement is taken as the truth. And even if the statement is verified or disapproved by another poster, the board is still left confused because they cannot verify that that someone actually called. It becomes an endless circle of confusion.
Scammers rarely hype or bash a good stock. Solid blue chip stocks usually have few chat board posts. Scammers only go after stocks that are stagnant or moving relatively with stocks with true potential. Penny stocks (stocks less than $1) attract scammers.
Scammers usually use humour to get their points across. They usually post silly jokes about the company or post pictures which make fun of the company.
Scammers usually use events to bash or hype. They wait for something to happen within the company and twist the event to fit their bash or hype.
Scammers always bring up the same positive or negative news over and over again, even months after the initial news release.
Scammers post multiple times during the day. They comment on every post and answer every question. They try to control the board. Real investors are usually at busy with work, friends, or family, not posting on a chat board from dusk to dawn, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Scammers will outright lie. Most companies aren't perfect, but bashers will take a company's mistake and exaggerate it's cause and effect on the operations of the company. Hypsters will take a company's partnership or deals and make over aggressive predictions for the potential revenue for the company.
Scammers usually make statements which cannot be verified. Bashers usually claim to know "something" about the company or management. Hypsters usually make claims of a "big deal" coming soon.
Scammers usually play on investors lack of knowledge and laziness. People who read chat boards for information usually do so to pick up quick and easy due diligence research. Unfortunately, some investors begin to rely too much on the chat board's validity and stop doing their own research.
Scammers use emotions to their advantage. Fear and greed are the tools of a hypster and basher. Hypsters want you to buy so "you don't miss out on the big returns". Bashers want you to sell so "you don't loss all your money". Hypsters and bashers try to break down your pre-set investment objectives and goals by attacking your fear and greed elements.
Scammers work in groups. Bashers and hypsters usually have multiple aliases or associates who work towards a single objective. Sometimes they all follow the same line of thought. Sometimes they play "good cop, bad cop" and attack each other points in order to finally "prove" that one of the views are right.
Some scammers are actually paid to bash or hype. Investing is a serious business where returns can balloon with the right whisper. In some cases, bashers and hypsters are paid by those interested in the investment to further their goals. Beware of posters who seems to have nothing else to do but to post all day on a stock chat board.
When all else fails, a scammer will usually resort to personal attacks against the other posters. Personal attacks usually make the chat board messy and unappealing. For bashers, it usually drives away investors and gives them a bad impression of the company. For hypsters, it may drive away the real investor who likes to post both sides of the story (not bashing or hyping) in order to discuss the pros and cons of the investment. It may also turn intelligent investors into personal attackers themselves, making them look bad as well.

Source: http://theinvestorscentre.8m.com/special/guide.htm


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Good post Wiz

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Some of us need a reality check! I know sometimes I do!

Posted by Dr. Diamond on another board.

I believe it is quite obvious that many that have newly invested in CMKX have no idea what to expect from the PINK SHEETS world! I have been invested in this company since 2002. You think CMKX is an animal; well the Pinks are a different species altogether. So many investors are running around screaming for information and ranting about an injustice is being done to the investors and we deserve information. Many feel that CMKX is obligated to release information out to us and keep us completely informed on everything going on!

This is simply not true! Before I get started I want to state up front that I didn’t say I wouldn’t love to have a daily update on what is going on inside the company, I would love it, but as a Pink Sheet Company, legally CMKX has no OBLIGATION to release us information except out of their sheer desire to communicate to us! We need a reality check! If this was Nasdaq, AMEX, or the NYSE and we had invested many dollars per share then we are guaranteed that the cooperation will be there, the obligation to release information, and have financials and everything else completely open for review.

We have a limited crew working in Las Vegas and in Fort a la Corne and each has there responsibilities and mission they are trying to carry out. As others have mentioned we have to let them do what they need to do for their success is our success; and their discoveries are our discoveries; etc… When we remember that we have about 10 people working in Saskatchewan and very few in Nevada we begin to realize how busy these personnel really are.

We may not have an official PR but we have information coming in simply by being able to perceive what they are doing: in Canada (drilling, moving timber, sending samples, moving drill rigs, trying to cover our claims and options on more than 1.4 million acres of prime diamondiferous kimberlitic lands, etc…): and in Nevada (D. Roger Glenn is on board, audit is underway, share structure is being determined, financials are being cleared, and a new transfer agency filed by Urban on July 1, 2004, fighting off the securities problems generated by the MM’s, trying to implement Urbans plan to help us) AND WE WANT AND DEMAND INFORMATION TO FEEL BETTER?

We have to grow up. This is a PINK for God’s sake and right now we already have more than we ever bargained for. Call Melvin if you need more information. Do some more Due Diligence if you feel insecure about your investment. Get away from the board and get your mind off things by golfing, swimming, beach combing, going to turtle races, have a drink, or anything else it takes but come to the reality that you are now in the world of the Pinks and not on a market or an exchange!

I know we are counting on Urban as our leader and I have complete confidence in his abilities and his staff working with him. They are scrambling right now to regain their footing. Unless we have forgotten, we just sort of blew our last PR by having to remove our new T/A and Mr. Glenn nor Urban want to project to the world of the market that we can’t handle ourselves or are not in complete control. You could say that the next moves will be very careful, thought out, and secure for CMKX and everyone’s career that is involved. Every move CMKX takes puts reputation at risk for Urban and Mr. Glenn and they are not going to risk it until they have fully done their strategic planning and done their own DD and research for this next step.

None of us here wants anything but the absolute best for CMKX and our investment, but we need to realize the Pink World is full of sharks, coral reefs, and unexpected storms. We need to let the Captain keep his eyes and mind on getting us through this thing safely. Remember, either way this thing turns out, up or down, sink or swim, wherever he goes, we go. I don’t believe for a moment he is in this thing to lose.
I believe most investors do not realize that a Pink Sheet stock is not on an actual exchange or market. This is why regulations are so difficult to enforce.

A company like CMKX whose shares are traded on the so-called "pink sheets" is commonly one that does not meet the minimal criteria for capitalization and number of shareholders that are required by the NASDAQ and OTC and most exchanges to be listed there. The "pink sheet" designation is a holdover from the days when the quotes for these stocks were printed on pink paper. "Pink Sheet" stocks have both advantages and disadvantages.

Disadvantages:
1. The company is NOT REQUIRED to release any information about its financials or share structure.
2. All information coming from the company is purely voluntary and is as the company wills.
3. Many Pink Sheet stocks are thinly traded. Can make it tough (and expensive) to buy or sell shares.
4. The Bid/Ask spreads can tend to be pretty steep. So if you bought today the stock might have to go up 40-80% before you'd make money.
5. The active Market makers or brokerage firms that handle the stock may be limited. Much discussion has taken place in this group about the effect of a limited number of market makers on thinly traded stocks. (They are the ones who are really going to profit).
6. Can be very tough to follow. Very little coverage by analysts and news reports.
7. The majority of all Pinks never make it out of the Pinks.

Advantages:
1. Normally low priced. You can usually buy a million shares for little more than a hundred dollars. So the risk is high but what you are risking is very low so the if the upside comes it will be worth the sweat you have invested.
2. Many companies list in the "Pink Sheets" as a first step to getting listed on the National Market. This alone can result in some price appreciation, as it may attract buyers that were previously wary.
In other words, there are plenty of risks for the possible reward, but aren't there always?

We are doing well with this Pink Sheet stock we have invested in! The upside is incredible and the downside is minimal! Let’s stick to the ammunition that has been given to us and the ammunition we can locate from public information to fight off the mental demons that try to enrage us, create doubt, unbelief, and skepticism.

I know most of us are longs and we all have weak moments. But lets focus on the reality of our investment and what we have, instead of getting revved up over what isn’t happening and what we can’t get.

This is just my opinion and I appreciate everyone contributing to our effort. I have no rights to say what you can and cannot say or do, so I won’t. But, I do know what those emotions and feelings can produce in our lives as a whole and it isn’t what either you or I want.

Let’s have fun with this thing and quit putting pressure on it to perform as if it is going to save our lives. It can definitely make our lives better when it comes through, but not until it comes through and it isn’t going to save our life. There is One that has already done that and He is a good one to lean on if you need too!

I believe CMKX will come through, and we’ll marvel at these times, but it just isn’t time yet! As I post often on my threads, “I don’t believe this is the end, or even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning!”

Take Care and Success to All in CMKX!

For additional info on Pink Sheets see: http://www.pinksheets.com/investor/index.jsp

Dr.D

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noahltl you too! thanks

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From another board

By: stockseekerok
06 Jul 2004, 06:54 PM EDT
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WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH CMKX READ AND SEE , GUYS I KNOW THIS IS LONG BUT JUST READ AND SKIP ALL THE SAFE HARBOR CRAP AND LOOK AT THE CONNECTIONS

(((BBX Equity Group in Association With (Mirage Properties,) (Trump Development,) (Don King Productions )and( Niko Santucci))

(((NOTICE ALL THE BIG NAMES ABOVE-ssok))

(The other below is non issue so scan to the next)


Plans to Develop the 5000 Unit World Class "Flags of All Nations" Condominium Development
Wednesday June 23, 9:00 am ET

LAS VEGAS, NV--(MARKET WIRE)--Jun 23, 2004 -- Mr. Gary W. Walters, Managing General Partner and majority stockholder of BBX Equity Group, in conjunction with his partners Mirage Properties, Trump Development, Don King Productions and Niko Santucci are pleased to offer $80,000 to all current listed voting members with a non-assignable opportunity to profit from golfing membership and become part of our exciting real estate development opportunity within the Country Club golfing community grounds of the Las Vegas Country Club.

ADVERTISEMENT

Our offer will allow current members the ability to play golf for free for 3 years upon completion of our magnificent 5,000 units "Flags of All Nations" development. Once a sufficient number of votes has been secured allowing for construction permits to be issued and construction to be completed the developer BBX Equities will cause to be paid $80,000 for each membership obtained.

BBX Equities Group, Inc. along with Scott A. Ervin, the projects Managing Director and exclusive Nevada and New York real estate broker, will bring this exciting development to occupancy. BBX Equity proposes to develop up to 5000 world-class corporate condominiums. Our design concept with the skillful guidance of Mr. Harry Campbell of HCA Associates will reflect the spirit of our community and the Nation, while projecting our vision of a futuristic Las Vegas from a pair of arches crossing at the apex to form the foundation of a living community that is energy efficient and fun to look at while also sporting a 19th hole multi story restaurant with many additional exciting amenities, all tailored for the world class occupants expected to own parts of this property in the sky. Rarely in life does an opportunity surface where in addition to your ability to play golf and collect $80,000 does one also get to observe with excitement our development.

(((REMEMBER I HAVE BEEN SAYING BBX EQUITY GROUP FOR A LONG TIME NOW , AND ALSO THAT I THOUGHT URBAN HAD CONNECTIONS IN VEGAS TO SOME CASINO( Now comes to light as possibly the MIRAGE))))


By: stockseekerok
10 May 2004, 01:02 PM EDT
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i found that a group called BBX equity funded Barrington foods in 2003
barrington foods is now UCAD
BBX Equity Group is located in Las Vegas

ucad became a mining comp shortly before we started drilling
ucad joined cmkx in canadian deal
ucad is co-sposor of funny car
ucad had links to funny car on their website
ucad is also offering cmkx memorabilia
ucad is agressively finding new minig companies for purchase
BBX funding must still be in place
Rick Walker, company president of Shane Resources (SEI.H) CDNX, Consolidated Pine Channel (KPG) CDNX, and United Carina Resources (UCA) CDNX, to share the cost on this major airborne survey.
Makes them actually 50 % owners in claims
if what i think is right cmkx still owns 50% of everything
i think we own big portion of ucad or all of it, makes for 50 %
see the team could only be a 2 part instead of 4
Because we own Ucad

Just some thoughts do your DD to check this theory

SSok


(((and then the old Profile from Canada stating UC went to the united states for money)))

CANADIAN PROFILE ON CMKX FEBUARY 2004
http://www.canadianminingnews.com/dailyreckoning.htm

Current Price: $0.0001
Estimated Outstanding Shares: 37,000,000,000


Casavant Mining Kimberlite International (CMKM.PK)

Saturday, February 21, 2004
Diamond driller targets Weirdale
BARRY GLASS/Daily Herald

A small company has made big plans for diamond exploration work in the Prince Albert region this year. Casavant Mining Kimberlite International (CMKM.PK) recently announced it purchased its own drill rig and received financing to get started.

The company holds mineral claims to more than 1.4 million acres in the province in an area stretching from north of Candle Lake down to St. Louis.

“We anticipate to start drilling up by Weirdale,” said company president Urban Casavant.Weirdale is 58 kilometres northeast of Prince Albert and close to the Fort à la Corne claims of other companies drilling for diamonds.

Casavant Mining’s drilling program should begin within a month or so. “It’s going to be an aggressive program,” said Casavant. “We figure if we have no problems we can drill a hole a week.”

He wants to drill several properties over the next two years at a cost of about $10 million. The company announced Friday a longtime individual investor in the company has put in $1.8 million US with a pledge of another $3.2 million US upon completion of a feasibility study and core sampling results. Casavant Mining is a Las Vegas-based company publicly traded in the over-the-counter securities markets.

((I KNEW THEY WENT TO LAS VEGAS FOR THE MONEY))

(Being located in the United States gives the company access to the money needed for its planned drilling, said the president.)

He said once people know how much work is involved in diamond exploration; they understand what it takes to get a mine into production. “It takes money and money and money and a little bit of luck,” he said.

The company also has interests in property near Green Lake, 180 kilometres northwest of Prince Albert. Casavant Mining will use an outside contractor for drilling in that area so its own rig can stay in the Fort à la Corne region. Casavant said he’s happy to be at this stage. “I’ve been at this prospecting and claiming land for about 15 years now,” said the self-taught prospector. “So I’ve been chasing this for a long time, and it’s finally all going to come together.”

The company is involved with many other companies in joint ventures in the area, he said, adding it also hopes to do aerial survey work in the near future.

About Casavant Mining Kimberlite International

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Inc (CMKM.PK). is a new company involved in the exploration for diamonds in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan.

Exploration is being aggressively pursued within the Fort á la Corne area in central Saskatchewan, where the company holds mineral claims to more than 1.4 million acres.

WHY DIAMONDS IN SASKATCHEWAN ?

1) One of the largest known kimberlite clusters in the world.

2) De Beers (The largest Diamond Company in the World) in joint ventures with Kensington Resources and Shore Gold; are actively mining for Diamonds in Fort a la Corne and there has been a recent discovery of a 10 carat plus diamond. At 10.23 carats, the stone is by far the biggest to ever come out of the prairie belt project, officially kicking of the mad diamond rush.

3) 130 of the 2000 kimberlite pipes known worldwide are macro-diamond bearing. 23 of these are located in the Fort a la Corne district of Saskatchewan.

4) 80% of Saskatchewans' kimberlite pipes are diamondiferous.

5) 50% contain diamonds over one millimeter in size.

6) A high percentage of diamonds recovered are clear, inclusion-free and exhibit good crystal form.

7) Pipes said to have erupted under inland sea and therefore have not been exposed to weathering or glaciation.

8) Pipes lie within 300 feet of surface.

9) Area accessible by paved all-weather road, with water and power readily available.

10) Studies indicate cash operating costs of $10.50 per tonne, including overburden removal.

11) Saskatchewan government encourages mining in the province.


For the Latest Press Releases please visit: http://www.casavantmining.com/news.html


Investment Opportunity:

Casavant Mining (CMKM.OB) was created last year through the transformation of Cyber Mark International, and it has been quite colorful since it took up the pursuit of diamonds. The company is listed on the mighty pinks in the United States, and at last report there were billions of shares outstanding. As a result, the stock is a trader's dream with a share price that has been lingering near one-100ths of a U.S. cent, but which occasionally has spiked upwards, offering the enticement of a quick triple, or better. Casavant Mining has been retiring billions of its outstanding shares of late -- more than 13 billion at last count. Some of the Casavant claims are within 10 kilometres of Shore Gold's Star kimberlite and Kensington's No. 141 pipe, both to the west and east.

As well, some of the claims are within five kilometres to the west of Kensington's No. 150 and No. 122 pipes, which apparently remain priority pipes for the joint venture, and other claims appear to lie within the northwesterly trending lines of kimberlite finds in the region. As a result, a drill program on the Casavant ground could stir up some speculative notice, especially if Shore and Kensington can come up with toutable results from their key projects in the coming months. If or when CMKM hits pay dirt and finds Diamonds wont you be glad you own a few million shares?

Guys there are som Mighty powerful names in that very first line on top. Tons of money , I Knew BBX Equity would show up for me sooner or later , and the casino chips urban gives away I now Know why they are usable at the casinos In Kansas City

JMHO

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Just keep posting folks. Nice to keep this thread on top.

I see JB still has the big mouth open for more Pigeon works. Problem is it just keeps spewing back out! What part of Long Island is JB from? Never mind, it has to be where they put all the horsesh*t and other trash. Bet JB is in the bottom of the class even in a college (if that is what they call it) such as CUNY.

Now we have justplayin again. That pumper had 4 posts on osubucks30's topic about GET OUT of CMKX. And now on this thread too?
The rest of you pumpers I will ignore.

Talk to all you nice folks later.


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I thought I would say it anyway.

Let me give a simplistic analogy:

If you walked out in your backyard and found an oil well, would you go out and knock on every neighbor's door, call up the local news media and get the press all over it? What would you do?

I would get a great legal counsel, get my plan ready, and at precisely the right timing, make the announcement to the public.

IMO, this is exactly what is happening right now. UC knew about all the crazy games going on with the stock while at the same time he knew the chances were great he would find loads of diamonds. Thus comes in Mr. Glenn.

Everytime I have doubts that this CMKX movie plot if you will at times, is too good to be true, I always come back to that thought - Why would Mr. Glenn come on board if there wasn't a huge potential involved here (either from a legal standpoint, the mother load of diamond mines, or both). That is the million dollar question.

I am long and will wait as long as it takes for the "Casavant brand" to take off

Any other opinions?

CMKX is the most exciting story of a stock I have ever seen!



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