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Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
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I have sat back and read all the hipe on this stock for several months now. You people try to put on a positive spin on every bit of information you hear and slam anyone that has negitive coment on CMKX. Have you ever herd of the first amendment or is this board just part of the scam and is just for pumping it up.

Try your magic spins with this info.

First URBAN CASAVANT has not been in the diamond minning business professionaly for 15 to 20 years as some of you claim. I dought it if has been it at all except for the 3 years he has been swindeling you people.

He and his pals have been and still are involved in many other companys (scams) incorprated in Navada. So many that I quit looking once a pattern emerged.

The 500 billion issue.

You can say all you want to about "oh maybe he hasn't issued all the shares, or he has been retiring shares as fast as he can.) fact is CMKX is authorised to issue 500 billion shares and he has been dumping the into the market for months now. Big deal he claims to have retired 20 billion shares that still leaves 480 billion issued.

You can remove this post if you want to and I expect you will. I intend to post it on every board I find on CMKX

By the way DAVID DESORMEAU CMKX's CFO has already been charge in Kentucky with stock fraud in another case.


Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

CANADIAN DIAMOND FIELDS INTERNATIONAL, INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: JAMES KINNEY HCR 33 BOX 2594, LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: JAMES KINNEY HCR 33 BOX 2594, LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: May 19, 2003

CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING CORPORATION
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: CAROLYN CASAVANT PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: EMMERSON KOCH PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: January 21, 2003

CASAVANT RACING CORPORATION
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.


DESERT STOCK TRANSFER COMPANY
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: July 01, 2004

SILVER FOX CAPITAL INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Incorporated On: February 17, 2004

SL INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENTS INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: STEVE RADFORD 120 BEACHWOOD TRAIL, MICHIBAN CITY ID
Secretary: JOHN CRANDELL 1452 BRAMFIELD CT, LAS VEGAS NV
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: July 10, 2003

STONEHENGE INC
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: JON THIRIOT PO BOX 30234 , LAS VEGAS NV
Incorporated On: June 01, 2001

VI-COM HOLDING INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: VICTOR CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: VICTOR CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: BEVERLY CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: February 24, 2004

CASAVANT GOLF COMPANY
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT 30 PRINCIVILLE CT, LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: January 06, 2003

EYECANDY ENTERTAINMENT INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU 3340 S TOPAZ #100, LAS VEGAS NV
President: JOHN D. GUZMAN 2519 PUTING GREEN DRIVE, HENDERSON NV
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: August 11, 1999


FRAUD CHARGES THAT HAVE BEEN FILED OS OF THIS DATE :
1. COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY
NELSON CIRCUIT COURT
NO. ___03-CI-00190_____ http://www.law.state.ky.us/news/2003rel/wormComplaint.pdf



 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
Over the weekend Pacific Transfer agent was FIRED because they blurted out the O/S for CMKX and it was not good. SOOOO what's the crook owner of cmkx do now??? Why he sets up his own company to count HIS OWN o/s!!!

Just got this from Nevada Corporation webpage Urban just incorprated this company on July1st 2004, I don't know what it means though.


Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

Name: DESERT STOCK TRANSFER COMPANY

Type: Corporation File Number: C17484-2004 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: July 01, 2004
Status: Initial list of officers filed Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT

HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: 4955 S DURANGO #214

LAS VEGAS NV 89113-
Secretary: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: 4955 S DURANGO #214

LAS VEGAS NV 89113-
Treasurer: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: 4955 S DURANGO #214

LAS VEGAS NV 89113-

People this is why I warn you. DO NOT INVEST IN PINKS!!!! PINKS ARE FOR MOMO PLAYS... if you have the need for pennies go to OTC there are some nice plays there but please stay out of the pinks... there is no regulation or control and people can do whatever they want and make up whatever numbers.

h**p://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1089051511
 


Posted by mizzou7 on :
 
Happy I sold a couple of weeks ago...

Was going to buy again if and when it went back to .0002 / .0001, I think I will just move on now!

Thanks for the info...


 


Posted by Trade Dog on :
 
How come bashers can never spell? Are they really that stupid or is it an act?
Randy
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
rchaud98
New Member

Hmmmmmmm...

Well if you are right so be it, I guess time will tell. I am still long and I question why you would post EVERYWHERE you see CMKX. Why don't you spend that time looking for a new stock instead of posting it everywhere and NEVER following up on where you posted. So what is the point of posting, to save us?

You sir are totally shady and I wouldn't listen to a word you say, yeah I'll sell based upon what YOU POST... Hmmmm listen to my gut or what some person, somewhere, posted as a NEW MEMBER....

-John

P.S. I AM STILL LONG, REGARDLESS OF YOUR POSTINGS, MR. NEW MEMBER WHO I HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE...
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
uh why not try to refute what was posted with facts instead of being an uneducated knucklehead?

HAH
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Mighty interesting post. Among others, I think this is a SCAM. Just as Mizzou, I sold mine and was thinking about getting in at .0002/0001. Very unlikely. Now, it is time to look up Casavant's buddy and why UC is so tight with him. Now, it is time to check out Victor and Beverly Casavant. Now, it is time to see if Casavant's new company is/was/or will be involved as a Transfer Agent. Perfect opportunity to hide true facts and mislead further. Now, it the time to find out if Roger Glennnnn is really there to act as counsel to a defendant (or defendants).
Although I doubt any truth to rumors about any halt in trading, if UC and others at CMKX and partners are about to be prosecuted, that would be an excellent reason to halt trading.
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
I dont have to disprove or prove anything you idiot...

I am holding my shares long. If it hits above .01 I am happy. That isn't too hard. I will tell you what if it goes below what I bought it, I can claim it on my taxes when I sell. If it goes above what I bought it, well then good

Again, Why now are you asking me TO DISPROVE... what is your whole basis of being here, right now? See, you can be looking up DD on other stocks, but you are sitting here trying to get into a debate about a stock you seem to hate... Again go look for another stock... New Member...

-John
 


Posted by flashovertx on :
 
rchaud98 .....

I "sincerely" want to "thank" you for shedding light for us meager peasants to follow. If it was not for your "incredible" DD, I would be on the brink of financial ruin. You have "saved" millions of investors alot of time and money on CMKX.....

NOT!

This is a pathetic peice of garbage post.....and sadly I am giving you a commission as we speak since some MM behind you is dangling the $6.00 an hour carrot in front of you. It is sad that you feel the need to rescue all of us misinformed investors in CMKX....let me ask you something....Why do you feel the need to say anything to anybody? If you feel that it is a scam, take your money and find something else. What motivation do you have to warn any of us? OH yes, thats right...that must be a mighty good carrot....What's Up Doc?
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
They pay this idiot in pieces of Chicken...

-John
 


Posted by brandwilliams on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rchaud98:
http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1089071801

I have sat back and read all the hipe on this stock for several months now. You people try to put on a positive spin on every bit of information you hear and slam anyone that has negitive coment on CMKX. Have you ever herd of the first amendment or is this board just part of the scam and is just for pumping it up.

Try your magic spins with this info.

First URBAN CASAVANT has not been in the diamond minning business professionaly for 15 to 20 years as some of you claim. I dought it if has been it at all except for the 3 years he has been swindeling you people.

He and his pals have been and still are involved in many other companys (scams) incorprated in Navada. So many that I quit looking once a pattern emerged.

The 500 billion issue.

You can say all you want to about "oh maybe he hasn't issued all the shares, or he has been retiring shares as fast as he can.) fact is CMKX is authorised to issue 500 billion shares and he has been dumping the into the market for months now. Big deal he claims to have retired 20 billion shares that still leaves 480 billion issued.

You can remove this post if you want to and I expect you will. I intend to post it on every board I find on CMKX

By the way DAVID DESORMEAU CMKX's CFO has already been charge in Kentucky with stock fraud in another case.


Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

CANADIAN DIAMOND FIELDS INTERNATIONAL, INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: JAMES KINNEY HCR 33 BOX 2594, LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: JAMES KINNEY HCR 33 BOX 2594, LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: May 19, 2003

CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING CORPORATION
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: CAROLYN CASAVANT PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: EMMERSON KOCH PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: January 21, 2003

CASAVANT RACING CORPORATION
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.


DESERT STOCK TRANSFER COMPANY
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: July 01, 2004

SILVER FOX CAPITAL INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Incorporated On: February 17, 2004

SL INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENTS INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: STEVE RADFORD 120 BEACHWOOD TRAIL, MICHIBAN CITY ID
Secretary: JOHN CRANDELL 1452 BRAMFIELD CT, LAS VEGAS NV
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: July 10, 2003

STONEHENGE INC
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: JON THIRIOT PO BOX 30234 , LAS VEGAS NV
Incorporated On: June 01, 2001

VI-COM HOLDING INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: VICTOR CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: VICTOR CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: BEVERLY CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: February 24, 2004

CASAVANT GOLF COMPANY
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT 30 PRINCIVILLE CT, LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: January 06, 2003

EYECANDY ENTERTAINMENT INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU 3340 S TOPAZ #100, LAS VEGAS NV
President: JOHN D. GUZMAN 2519 PUTING GREEN DRIVE, HENDERSON NV
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: August 11, 1999


FRAUD CHARGES THAT HAVE BEEN FILED OS OF THIS DATE :
1. COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY
NELSON CIRCUIT COURT
NO. ___03-CI-00190_____ http://www.law.state.ky.us/news/2003rel/wormComplaint.pdf


Rchaud

I think everyone knows its a scam. You have to be either an idiot or naive as hell to not think it is. Has been from day one of incorporation. Although if people keep making pages and threads of post about it, and uncle Melvie and Casavant keep up their shady dealings and lies, there is a possibility of people making money (or more money) Although if you notice the more the pages and threads about a stock are made, the outcome is almost always the same. No DD to be found, all speculation and hopes. Losers keep cheering each other on, trying to feel better while their stock plummets, being too scared to pull the trigger and let it go, while the stock continues to dump, dump, dump. Hence IBZT, QBID, CMKX, WNMI there are others, just can't think of them off the top of my head. They had their day.

Brandon


 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
* YAWN* What else can JBCAK47 do? He has no facts all he has is blind hope in the face of facts. To bad it's costing him so much $$$$ that why he's working overtime to pump this stock with no facts.

Here's a new one: If the samples are back and we have DIAMONDS why not release the sizes? Oh we can't have that information??? That's ok we already found out from the partners.. 2 diamond specs from 8 HUGE samples tubes. Nice (yes this is what caused the stock to slide from .0011 to .0004) The slide could of been stopped by releasing the sample sizes but we already knew they were worthless.

Instead got a worthless PR that the message board was shut down and brought back up again on the same free message board hosting server (proboards.com) gee a company that is going to make millions can't afford a $10.00 hosting for their own weboard and instead use some cheap free board... yeah ok!

Everyone knows it is a scam...but the ones pumping early did OK as they scammed fellow MB investors...a sucker's "get rich quick" that insiders dump unlimited number of shares into with each P & D PR...scam was run in the 19th century as well.

[This message has been edited by rchaud98 (edited July 05, 2004).]
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rchaud98:
* YAWN* What else can JBCAK47 do? He has no facts all he has is blind hope in the face of facts. To bad it's costing him so much $$$$ that why he's working overtime to pump this stock with no facts.

Here's a new one: If the samples are back and we have DIAMONDS why not release the sizes? Oh we can't have that information??? That's ok we already found out from the partners.. 2 diamond specs from 8 HUGE samples tubes. Nice (yes this is what caused the stock to slide from .0011 to .0004) The slide could of been stopped by releasing the sample sizes but we already knew they were worthless.

Instead got a worthless PR that the message board was shut down and brought back up again on the same free message board hosting server (proboards.com) gee a company that is going to make millions can't afford a $10.00 hosting for their own weboard and instead use some cheap free board... yeah ok!

Everyone knows it is a scam...but the ones pumping early did OK as they scammed fellow MB investors...a sucker's "get rich quick" that insiders dump unlimited number of shares into with each P & D PR...scam was run in the 19th century as well.

[This message has been edited by rchaud98 (edited July 05, 2004).]


Very Very Sad!!!!
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
Wow

The smell of "scam" grows stronger as evidence points to UCAD and CMKX to be the same company:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=358460


barrington foods is now UCAD
BBX is located in Las Vegas

ucad became a mining comp shortly before we started drilling
ucad joined cmkx in canadian deal
ucad is co-sposor of funny car
ucad had links to funny car on their website
ucad is also offering cmkx memorabilia
ucad is agressively finding new minig companies for purchase
BBX funding must still be in place
Rick Walker, company president of Shane Resources (SEI.H) CDNX,
Consolidated Pine Channel (KPG) CDNX, and United Carina Resources
(UCA) CDNX, to share the cost on this major airborne survey.
Makes them actually 50 % owners in claims
if what i think is right cmkx still owns 50% of everything
i think we own big portion of ucad or all of it, makes for 50 %
see the team could only be a 2 part instead of 4
Because we own Ucad

Just some thoughts do your DD to check this theory

SSok
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cmkxtrememachine/

Check out the above link for more exciting stuff on cmkx

Barrington foods was broke in december 2004 , and now all of a
sudden they ars a mining company with lts of money to spend

UCAD AND CMKX TIES

Read this Ucad Statement and you will see the early developmental
stages of the CMKX AND UCAD LINK. We own UCAD

Form 10QSB for U S CANADIAN MINERALS INC


---------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------

21-May-2004

Quarterly Report


Item 2. PLAN OF OPERATION.


((((On January 2, 2004, the Company changed its name from Barrington
FoodsInternational, Inc. to U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc.))))

CHANGED FROM A FOOD COMPANY TO A MINING COMPANY

This marked a material,significant and fundamental change in the
Company's business, and future plans.The Company abandoned the
business plan it tried to implement since 2001, thatfocused on
marketing and selling a variety of soy based food products and
otherconsumer goods to developing nations.

(((In its place, the Company decided to pursue the mining development
business, focusing on (1) acquiring rights to landwhere precious and
semi precious minerals and rocks were believed to exist;acquiring
the necessary equipment and know how to operate the mines;
and,selling the ore for profit; and, (2) expanding its mining
business into othermining related ventures that included acquiring
and operating existing smeltingand milling operations. )))

NOW WHERE DID THIS FOOD COMPANY JUST ALL OF A SUDDE AQUIRE SUCH KNOWLEDGE INTO MINING ?

Each of the ventures discussed below must be read in conjunction
with thefollowing section regarding risk factors associated with
mining for preciousminerals and gemstones.


COMMON RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH MINING FOR PRECIOUS MINERALS AND GEM
STONES


(((Generally speaking, there are a number of basic geological tests
that must besuccessfully completed by a developer in order to
justify full-scale miningoperations for precious minerals and
gemstones at any site. Typically,
((aerialmagnetic surveys ))

KINDA COINCIDENTAL SINCE THIS WAS ABOUT THE TIME CMKX SRARTED THE AERIAL SURVEYS

are first conducted over a particular tract of land. Thesesurveys
provide imaging based upon the magnetic qualities of gold and
diamondsthat can be detected through the magnetic technology in any
given cubic meter ofraw land.
(( Assuming that the magnetic aerial examination reveals the
presence of gold, diamonds, or other precious minerals, the next step
is to perform augerdrilling at the site.)

(( HOW DID A FOOD COMPANY NO THIS))

(( This involves drilling small core samples, approximately1-2
inches in diameter, and analyzing them for the existence of trace
mineralsat various depths. Once the core samples are examined and
evaluated, andassuming that the core samples reveal amounts of
precious metals, mineralsand/or diamonds, then bulk sampling occurs
in those areas shown by augerdrilling to have the most potential.))

THIS LOOKS TO HAVE BEEN HAND FED SORT TA SPEAK

The land is divided into "grids." Bulksampling involves using
backhoes and excavating up to 100 meters of raw dirtfrom promising
grids for mill processing. Processing at the mill will result ina
statistical analysis of approximately how many karats of diamonds,
gold, orother precious minerals and gemstones may exist in each
grid.


((Once these steps are complete, then the developer of the area
retains anindependent expert geologist to review the developer's
work and research.))

NOW WHO IS THE DEVELOPER(CMKX)

((Typically, the independent geologist will perform
some of the same testsdescribed above. If the expert's results are
consistent with that of thedeveloper, then the expert verifies the
tract (also referred to as being "provedup") and the resources on
the land, then the developer proceeds to more largescale on site
mining operations. ))

DR MARK HUTHINSON , WHO JUST COINCIDENTIALLY WORKS FOR CMKX AND UCAD

Undertaking the preliminary testing on any given tract of land is
costly.

(((Thepreliminary testing described above requires retaining persons
who possessexperience and sophisticated technology, such as with the
aerial magneticsurveys.))

GOOD WORK FOR A FOOD COMPANY

((Additionally, there are substantial costs involved with
hiringexperienced persons to perform and analyze the auger drilling
and bulk sampling.Further, hiring an independent expert to verify or
prove up the resources can beboth time consuming and costly.))

MORE GOOD WORK FROM THE ONCE FOOD BOYS

Aside from costs related to the professionalexpertise of persons
necessary to perform these services, it should be notedthat these
services may have to be provided outside of the United States.
Asdiscussed below, there are at least two development interests the
Company ispursuing in Canada and Brazil.

THEY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME WHERE THEIR DEVELOPING INTERESTS WERE

((There is no guarantee that the Company will beable to finance such
testing on tracts where there has been no testing to date,such as
the fort a la Corne, Prince Albert, Province of Saskatchewan,
Canadaproperty discussed below.))

I SMELL URBAN IS ABOUT THIS THING SOMEWHERE

(( Further, there is a substantial risk that even wherethe Company
might be able to arrange for adequate financing to carry
onpreliminary testing, that there may not be evidence of sufficient
amounts ofprecious metals, gemstones and/or minerals that would make
it reasonable toproceed with full scale mining operations, resulting
in the foreseeablepossibility that the Company could incur large
losses on unsuccessfuldevelopments and related projects.))

AH YES DISCLAIMERS

((Presently, the Company does not have sufficient funds to implement
the businessplan it adopted and as described herein. The Company
expects that it will needto acquire debt and equity financing in
order to sustain operations over thenext twelve month period.))

DO YOU SEE URBAN YET - THEY DEVELOPED THE FINANCING REAL QUICK AS YOU WILL SEE

There is no guarantee that the Company will acquiresuch financing,
and so readers are warned to take this into account whenevaluating
this issuer.

The Company's accountant has included the following statement in its
notes tothis filing:

"The accompanying financial statements have been prepared on a going
concernbasis, which contemplates the realization of assets and the
satisfaction ofliabilities in the normal course of business. ((The
((Company has incurredcumulative net losses of approximately
$18,345,000 since its inception andrequires capital for its
contemplated operational activities to take place.)))

SEE THEY ARE BROKE - NO MONEY - DEAD COMPANY

Thecompany's ability to raise additional capital through the future
issuances ofthe common stock is unknown. The obtainment of
additional financing, thesuccessful development of the Company's
contemplated plan of operations, and itstransition, ultimately, to
the attainment of profitable operations are necessaryfor the Company
to continue operations. The ability to successfully resolvethese
factors raise substantial doubt about the Company's ability to
continue asa going concern. The consolidated financial statements of
the Company do notinclude any adjustments that may result from the
outcome of these aforementioneduncertainties."

MORE OF MORE DISCLAIMERS

THE JOINT VENTURE WITH NEVADA MINERALS, INC./SASKATCHEWAN PROPERTY

nOW ALL OF A SUDDE MONEY IS ABOUT AND LOOK WHAT STARTS HAPPENINING

((On January 20, 2004, the Company entered into a formal joint
venture agreementwith Nevada Minerals, Inc. to develop up to 500,000
acres of potentialKimberlite Mineral property located on the east
and northwest sides of fort a laCorne, Prince Albert, Province of
Saskatchewan, Canada.))

I SMELL URBAN IS ABOUT


Kimberlite andKimberlite pipes are the raw materials from which
diamonds may be extracted. Thejoint venture operates under the
name "NevCan." The joint venture has a termthat expires on January
20, 2005. By the terms of the joint venture contract,the Company has
the rights to twenty percent of the revenues from miningoperations
at the site. As consideration for entering into the joint
venture,the Company paid to Nevada Minerals, Inc. five million
shares of restrictedcommon stock. For its part, Nevada Minerals,
Inc. tendered its rights to developthe 500,000 acres at the fort a
la Corne, Prince Albert site. No on site miningdevelopment of this
property presently exists and no preliminary testing hasoccurred.
All prospective mining operations on this land are contingent on
anumber of preliminary tests being successfully completed, as
discussed above.

NOW COMES URBAN CASAVANT EVEN MORE SO


(((On February 26, 2004, the Company entered into a joint venture
agreement with CMKM Diamonds, Inc., a Nevada corporation, to conduct
a airborne survey of thefort a la Corne Kimberlite fields, including
the 500,000 acres held by NevCan.))

REMEMBER THEIR ABOVE STATEMENTS CONCERNING AERIAL SURVEYS

((The aerial survey will use a tri-axial magnet gradient to discover
Kimberliteand Kimberlite pipes. The Company is one of many other
joint venture partners inthe aerial survey, all of whom own or have
rights to develop land in the fort ala Corne area.))

((The aerial survey has not been completed and is a
conditionprecedent to the Company and NevCan proceeding with further
on site developmentthat includes exploratory core sample drilling.
Even if Kimberlite and/orKimberlite pipes are located by virtue of
the aerial survey, there is noguarantee that any Kimberlite pipes
actually contain diamonds without furtherinvestment by the Company
into developmental testing and verification.)))

WELL BOYS AND GIRLS IT IS FINISHED NOW, AS PER pr BY CMKX


Further,there is no guarantee that the Company will be able to raise
the necessaryfunding to co mplete the venture. Aside from these risk
factors, other riskfactors exist for the Company when it does
business in another foreign andsovereign nation. The Company's
operations in Canada (and elsewhere, see thediscussion that follows)
will be subject to the laws and regulations of theforeign sovereigns
where the Company is operating. To the extent that theCompany has
legal disputes with foreign nationals, the procedures for
resolvingthose disputes will be handled procedurally by the
application of internationaltreaties like the "Andean Pact" and
the "Paris Convention" of 1883.

NOW WHERE DID ALL THAT MONEY COME FROM ,AND HERE THE GO AGAIN , REMEMBER THIS COMPANY WAS BROKE

JUINA MINING CORPORATION ACQUISITION.
-

On February 23, 2004, the Company entered into a letter-of-intent
with theowners of Juina Mining Corporation [a Nevada Corporation] to
acquire majorityvoting interest in Juina's capital stock in exchange
for $200,000.00. Subsequentto entering into the letter of intent,
the parties entered into a formaldefinitive agreement in which the
Company agreed to purchase 10,000,000 sharesof preferred stock in
the Juina Mining Corporation, with a voting conversionrate of 8 to
1, in exchange for the Company paying $100,000 in cash andexecuting
a note for the payment of an additional $100,000. The parties
lateragreed to a single payment by the Company of $116,000.00 and
the payment of thebalance of $86,000.00 due on a promissory note
that matures on May 24, 2004.

The Company believes that acquiring Juina Mining will provide it
with revenuesbased upon Juina's existing joint venture with DIAGEM
International ResourceCorporation, a Canadian corporation, in the
Juina Mining Mineracao, Ltd., a firmthat owns 86% of the mining and
mineral rights to approximately 1000 hectares(2,477 acres
approximately) of potential diamond bearing land in the province
ofJuina Mato Grosso, Brazil. The property is located 342 miles north
of the cityof Cuiaba by air or 450 miles by road near the major
urban center of MatoGrosso. The area is serviced by air and land
transportation.

Full-scale bulk sampling has not been carried out on the property,
and so theventure has not progressed to the point where an
independent expert geologistcan conduct an investigation and
evaluation to prove up the land as a resourcearea. This venture is
on a small scale and in its early stages. However,mini-bulk sampling
has occurred, and based on that the Company believes that
theproperty does have potential to produce diamonds.

HMM THAT BELOW NAME ALSO HAS A CASAVANT RING TO IT


The mini-bulk sampling and auger drilling was conducted by DIAGEM,
and itsreport indicated that the property had diamond potential, and
that to a limiteddegree the property was diamond bearing. On March
3, 2004, the Company named
((Dr.Hutchinson)) SEE HERE HE IS

to lead its Mining Advisory
Board. Dr. Hutchinson holds a Bachelor ofSciences degree with honors
from the University of Edinburgh, and for the pastten years has been
studying diamonds in the Juina area-studies that formed thebasis for
his Ph.D. thesis in 1997. Additionally, the Company learned that
theproperty had a long history of diamond mining, and based upon due
diligencecarried out by Dr. Mousseau Tremblay, formerly of DeBeers
Canada, the propertywas determined to contain promising prospects.
In December, 2000, Dr. Tremblay,after visiting the site, reported
extraction of significant numbers of stoneswith encouraging grades
and diamond sizes from mini bulk sampling.

Mini bulk sampling of the property does not necessarily reflect the
alluvials ofthe property as a whole, and this venture is still in
its start up phases.Considerable risks are attendant to this
operation. Full-scale bulk samplingmust be completed, then the land
must be proven to be a resource area by anindependent expert
geologist. The risks and costs of such a project have beendiscussed
above and are equally as applicable here. The expected on
siteoperation in Juina will be comprised of a welding fabrication
house, primarywelding screen, a 4 tier vibrating screen seperator,
talings conveyors, and amagnetic screen separator house. Employees
will have to be retained to operatethe site. No employees have yet
been hired, and the Company's present inabilityto raise sufficient
capital to complete the full scale bulk sampling and retainan
independent geological expert to prove up the area as a resource is
asignificant risk to it being implemented and successful. The
Company expectsthat it will have t o utilize equity and debt
financing to obtain sufficientfunding in order to implement this
strategy. However, there are no guaranteesthat the Company will be
able to obtain such funding, and this is also asubstantial risk
factor.

((It is also critical to note that the Juina Mining/DIAGEM joint
venture imposed a"hibernation period" on development of the property
in October, 2001.))

I WONDER WHAT CAUSED THAT , REFER BACK TO OLD CMKI PRs


This"hibernation period" effectively curtailed
exploration and development of miningoperations. However, given the
recent flow of new finds and given the currenteconomic development,
the Company believes that the area is now ready to
emergefrom "hibernation" and that key personnel are now ready to
commence production.A permit to begin exploration and production has
been timely filed and awaitslocal governmental approval, which is
expected in due course. However, there isno such guarantee that this
permit will be approved or issued. This is acritical risk to the
operation. However, the Company believes that based uponits due
diligence and the information it has collected on the Hutchison
thesisand the Tremblay work, that the hibernation period is over and
it is a desirableand worthwhile risk. If the local governmental
authorities deny the Company a permit to continue development of the
Juina property, then execution of theCompany's plans in this regard
may be cancelled or curtailed, depending on ifand when governmental
approval is acquired.


NOW HERE WE GO AGAIN , DAM WE GOT SOME MONEY NOW

NEVADA MAGNETIC MATERIAL, INC. ACQUISITION


On March 16, 2004, the Company signed a letter of intent to purchase
all of theoutstanding common stock of Nevada Magnetic Material,
Inc., a Nevadacorporation. On March 17, 2004 the parties entered
into a definitive agreementconsummating the acquisition of Nevada
Magnetic Material, Inc. by the Company.The terms of the agreement
required the Company to exchange 50,000 shares ofrestricted common
stock in exchange for 100% of the issued and outstandingshares of
Nevada Magnetic Material, Inc.

Nevada Magnetic Material, Inc. owns mineral rights to real property
locatedapproximately 100 miles south of Las Vegas, Nevada. Since it
was established in1990, Nevada Magnetic was in the business of
processing raw ore into Anode Bars.This is accomplished by
converting raw ore into a concentrate by sifting andotherwise
processing it so that essential and valuable components of the
rawore, including gold, platinum, and silver, are changed into a
transportableform-the Anode Bar. Once developed into this form, the
Anode Bars can betransported for further processing into more pure
elements, like gold bullion.

Nevada Magnetic Material, Inc. possessed equipment necessary to
process the rawore into Anode Bars, but lacked the equipment to
further refine the Anode Barsinto bullion. Nevada Magnetic had no
active business when the Company acquiredit.

Alpha Research Corporation certified Assay Reports on Anode Bars
produced byNevada Magnetic Material, Inc. at its Southern Nevada
site by in November, 1989.Those reports concluded that elements
including gold, silver, platinum andRhodium were present.

The Company's plans for Nevada Magnetic Material, Inc. are to invest
money intomaking the operation a going concern, and to actively mine
the land and produceAnode Bars. Additionally, the Company wants to
acquire the necessary equipmentto further refine the Anode Bars into
bullion. However, these plans are subjectto the caveats discussed
above regarding the Company obtaining sufficientfunding to execute
this business plan.


CMKX IS BIGGER THAN ONE REALIZES. MORE MONEY FOR THE BROKE COMPANY


YELLOW RIVER GOLD MINE ACQUISITION


On March 22, 2004, the Company, by and through Juina Mining
Corporation,acquired an 80% interest in the Yellow River Mining,
S.A., an Ecuadorcorporation, in exchange for 5,000,000 shares of the
Company's restricted commonstock. Yellow River Mining, S.A. holds
legal rights and claims to gold miningoperations in "Provincia Del
Oro" [Province of Gold] in southwest Ecuador. Thearea is well known
for gold mining operations that have been carried on theresince the
1600s. However, the present mining operations are rudimentary and
muchof the mining work is done by hand. Very little modern mining
equipment isavailable or used. No aerial surveys, mini bulk sampling
or full bulk samplinghave occurred on the property. An independent
expert geologist has not proved upthe area as a reserve or a
resource. No equipment exists on site or otherwiseowned or
controlled by the Company, that would allow full scale development
ofthe mine should it satisfy all conditions precedent to it being
determined to bea resourc e. Thus, in order for the Company to
develop this asset, financingwill have to be acquired in order to
satisfy the conditions precedent forfull-scale mining to occur, and
there are no guarantees that the Company willobtain such financing.


On May 7, 2004, Company representatives Rendal Williams and Alejo
Bermudeztraveled to the Yellow River mine to conduct an inspection.
Neither man is aqualified geologist able to assess the potential of
the land to produce gold orthe amounts of precious metals that might
exist there. However, after reviewingthe operations for
approximately five days, Mr. Williams and Mr. Bermudezreturned
bringing with them samples of gold removed from the Yellow River
mine.This ore has not undergone independent testing to determine its
purity or karatweight. Additionally, Yellow River is to forward dore
bars of gold bearing oreare to be transported to the Company in due
course for further examination andevaluation by the Company. It is
also noteworthy that the Company undertook duediligence, and
reviewed prior to acquiring Yellow River, documentation regardingthe
legal rights of Yellow River to the mining area, and Yellow River's
legalstatus and capacity under the operative Ecuadorian legal
documents.

Costs to implement this plan may be significant, since the land
parcel islocated in Ecuador. Presently, the Company does not have
the wherewithal tofinancially support the development, but may if
adequate debt or equityfinancing arrangements can be made. Further,
the fact that the subject propertyis in Ecuador presents some
potential problems for the Company should legaldisputes arise
between it and the Ecuador government, or Ecuadorian thirdparties.
Potential trouble areas may include issues related to
environmentalregulations often governed by international treaties
such as the "Andean Pact,"the "Pan American International
Convention," and the "Paris Convention" of 1883.Civil disputes
between citizens and/or entities of different countries are
oftengoverned by procedures and laws developed under the above noted
and otherinternational treaties. Presently however, there are no
such disputes or legalissues that are germane to this discussion or
filing.

WELL WHAT CAN I SAY


JOINT VENTURE WITH EL CAPITAN PRECIOUS METALS, INC.
-

On May 11, 2004 the Company entered into a joint venture agreement
with ElCapitan Precious Metals, Inc., a Nevada corporation. The
joint venture operatesunder the name "CanBII" and will operate until
May 11, 2020, unless terminatedearlier pursuant to the terms of the
joint venture agreement. El CapitanPrecious Metals, Inc., in
exchange for 720,000 shares of the Company'srestricted stock, agreed
to convey 80% of the interest it holds in mining claimsdesignated as
the "COD" Mining claim located 18 miles north of Kingman,
Arizona.The parties agreed to divide the profits equally during the
term of the jointventure.


The COD mining claims are comprised of rights to assets
including "tailings" and"Settlement Ponds." "Tailings" is a term of
art that refers to waste generatedduring processing of raw land for
precious minerals, metals and gemstones.Tailings may contain
reasonably recoverable traces of precious metals that arevaluable if
further reclamation processes are carried out. "Settlement
Ponds"refers to waste water generated from similar processing
procedures connected tothe extraction processes to obtain precious
metals, minerals and gemstones. Thewastewater produced by the
extraction process can be successfully re-processedto extract trace
amounts of precious metals such as gold. The process ofextracting
the precious metals from wastewater can take anywhere from 3 to
20days. El Capitan Precious Metals, Inc. holds governmental permits
to conduct theextraction process that comply with both state and
federal environmental lawsand regulations.

In 2001 El Capitan Precious Metals, Inc. commissioned an independent
geologicalreport regarding the ground values of the COD mining
claim. Z & Z GeologicalConsultants conducted the review and prepared
the report, and the Companyobtained and reviewed the report before
entering into the joint venture. Theanalysis conducted by Z & Z
Geological Consultants indicated that the COD miningclaim comprised
a number of precious metals and minerals, including gold,silver,
lead, zinc and copper. Considering these facts in conjunction
withexpected secondary extraction of tailings and settlement ponds
of 85% resultedin an evaluation of the reclamation project to be
approximately worth a grossamount of $120,165,709 in 2001. The
Company desires to re-evaluate the Z & Zreport and has plans to
commission a new review, examination and evaluation byan independent
third party expert geologist.


OFF BALANCE SHEET ARRANGEMENTS.
-

The Company has reviewed its present obligations, contingent
interests andcontingent obligations to determine if any qualify as
off-balance sheetarrangements that have or are reasonably likely to
have a current or futureeffect on the small business issuer's
financial condition, changes in financialcondition, revenues or
expenses, results of operations, liquidity, capitalexpenditures or
capital resources that is material to investors.

The Company presently has no obligations, contingent interests
and/or contingentobligations that: (1) guarantee, either directly or
indirectly, the indebtednessof others; (2) amount to retained or
contingent interests in assets transferredto an unconsolidated
entity that serves as credit, liquidity or market risksupport to
such entity for such assets; (3) are under a contract that would
beaccounted for as a derivative instrument; or (4) are an
obligation, including acontingent obligation, arising out of a
variable interest in an unconsolidatedentity that is held by, and
material to, the small business issuer, where suchentity provides
financing, liquidity, market risk or credit risk support to,
orengages in leasing, hedging or research and development services
with, the smallbusiness issuer.

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/cmkxtrememachine/


jOIN THE ABOVE GROUP FOR FURTHER INFO ON CMKX AND UCAD
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Just look what UCAD is tradind at.
Looks like a pretty good partnership to me.
 
Posted by RaiderJR on :
 
That would show that CMKX presently owns a producing gold mine in South America and a mine in southern Nevada, and a diamond bearing property in Canada that has reached bulk sampling with decent results.


Are you sure we are only worth .0005?


This is such a fun stock Ill hate to sell it when it hits 20.00.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Are all of you people overlooking the FACT
that DAVID DESORMEAU has been charged with
STOCK FRAUD and that he is also the CHIEF
FINANCIAL OFFICER of CMKX?????

Urban Casavant is President/CEO.

"Birds of a feather flock together." is a trite but generally true statement.

Do you know who is in charge of preparing the Balance Sheet, the Income Statement and Cash Flow Statement of CMKX? The CFO...namely DESORMEAU. A Balance Sheet includes such information as authorized, issued and outstanding shares (aka STOCK). Someone who has been charged with STOCK FRAUD is officially handling these matters?

Now, there's a possibility that CMKX could use another of Casavant's companies to act as Transfer Agent? UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!

One more thing. Who set the supposed value of the claims? The CFO...DESORMEAU?

[This message has been edited by Wallace#1 (edited July 05, 2004).]
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 

Now I am a paid pumper... what an idiot. Look at my posting history you twit...

But again I will take the word of some New Member who came out of left field.

I should ask you if you are working hard. In fact I got in at an average price of .0005 so I havent 'scamed' anyone you feeble fool.

-John
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Okay I go to John Jay College of Criminal Justice in NYC, many people have been 'charged' with crimes, what matters is if they get convicted for the charge. He maybe be charged and brought up but you say nothing of a CONVICTION... THAT IS WHAT MATTERS... Legally if they charge you and you are not convicted for the charge, there is nothing against you, criminally speaking, civil court can still be an option. However being *CHARGED* is not the same as being *CONVICTED* since there is still a presumption of innocence in being charged.(The court views you innocent until PROVEN guilty, which would be the conviction.)

FYI

-John
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Are all of you people overlooking the FACT
that DAVID DESORMEAU has been charged with
STOCK FRAUD and that he is also the CHIEF
FINANCIAL OFFICER of CMKX?????

Urban Casavant is President/CEO.

"Birds of a feather flock together." is a trite but generally true statement.

Do you know who is in charge of preparing the Balance Sheet, the Income Statement and Cash Flow Statement of CMKX? The CFO...namely DESORMEAU. A Balance Sheet includes such information as authorized, issued and outstanding shares (aka STOCK). Someone who has been charged with STOCK FRAUD is officially handling these matters?

Now, there's a possibility that CMKX could use another of Casavant's companies to act as Transfer Agent? UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!


I very much doubt that Desormeau would try to pull the same thing all over again. Too risky for him. Trust boys and girls Trust!!!!
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Okay I go to John Jay College of Criminal Justice in NYC, many people have been 'charged' with crimes, what matters is if they get convicted for the charge. He maybe be charged and brought up but you say nothing of a CONVICTION... THAT IS WHAT MATTERS... Legally if they charge you and you are not convicted for the charge, there is nothing against you, criminally speaking, civil court can still be an option. However being *CHARGED* is not the same as being *CONVICTED* since there is still a presumption of innocence in being charged.(The court views you innocent until PROVEN guilty, which would be the conviction.)

FYI

-John


LOL that's ok nobody cares about the $500 you invested here.

Wallace thank you finally someone sees the conflict in interest here. Have a shady character handle all the financial information and then have their own IN HOUSE transfer agent so nobody can tell whats going is the type of confusion JBCak47 is looking to pump and burn people on.

It goes back to the sample results... yes we have diamonds (stock goes to .0011) but when the question is asked "what type of diamonds?? grade,carat,quality" and we get no answers until the partners answer for us with their own PR it all comes down.

The DD has been done for you, it's up to you to make the choice. If anything I would wait 2 weeks for gamesnflix to fix their site and if its fixed by then then its all systems go.

[This message has been edited by rchaud98 (edited July 05, 2004).]
 


Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
That's cool bit you want to pull some stops.
You don't work for CMKX.
They used GPS tech. with 200(+) of positive anomaly aerial surveys.
CMKX HAS 1.4+/- acers of rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless you got E.S.P... then you don't know.
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Lol, GUYS NOW I AM A PUMPER!!!!

Where is Stoned P and WWJD or even Pharm!!!lol, they'd love this... Teen Trader, lol...

Again, you probably know not of these names since again, you are a NEW MEMBER....


But now I am a paid pumper out to steal others money. If anyone thinks that examine my post history... lol, this is too comical...


hey whatever floats your boat... Again, in two months we will know who is right If I am wrong, ohh well out a couple of hundred, I am still up on QBID!

If I am right, wow, I am up $$$$$$$$$

Where will you be mr.rchard New Member...

-John The Paid Pumper (They pay me in strippers and Marijuana...)


 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
At the risk of sending this back to the top of the board, I just have to respond to yet another basher.

First, I am a retired fraud/white collar crime investigator for the Indianapolis Police Department.

As such, I had many occasions to handle the type of complaint filed in Kentucky. some investor or investors failed to receive their "worms" and went to the Attorney General where Consumer Complaints are regularly processed. The clerk ran a random check of the company and found out that they hadn't paid their "fees". That is the real "crime" here. The State of Kentucky wants their money.

The complaint that was filed, is NOT a criminal complaint, it is a civil action against a company whose President died, (the late owner) and left his wife holding the bag on a company that she probably knew little about operating and caused the complaints from consumers.

Desmoreau is the agent of record of their corporation, filed in Nevada, and has little to do with the worm business except in receiving legal correspondence. You will probably find that he is the agent of record for many corporations around the country who have filed incorporation papers in Nevada. This is a very normal thing when you want to incorporate in a State where your business is not located. This is probably while Urban uses Desmoreau. You have to have a legal address and agent of record to receive corporate legal information and process. That;s the only connection this gentleman has with CMKX.

But for professional bashers, what are a few "facts" between friends. You find someone's name connected to consumer complaint and you make it out ot be the "Crime of the Century" in order to frighten investors. Give it a break guys, you aren't going to scare away the educated investors, and we'll keep watching out for those newbies so you can't get to them either.

Go ahead and take this garbage to other sites if you want, I'll be right behind you to show you for what you are.
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I understand that you are a STUDENT at CUNY.
WOW!!! Exactly how much experience do you, as a STUDENT, possess? How many years in the securities industry? And you think your limited experience qualifies you as some kind of expert. CRAP...you have some nerve to call someone else a "New Member" or an "idiot" without knowing anything about them. You are still in the process of trying to learn something...ATTEMPT TO DO SO!!!!

I guess they teach you nothing about "evidence"...circumstanstial included.



 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
You have taught me something tonight Wallace.

Human stupidity knows no bounds...

sweet dreams pooty muwahhh..

Listen I don't want to whip out my junk and get into a pissing match with you. I know how far I can shoot my stream...

I never implied you were a new member, in fact I have posted how you have been bashing for weeks... You need to pay attention my dear.

Secondly you posted the 'charge' I pointed out that many people have been 'charged' but what about a conviction. That is the law, being charged is not the same as being convicted. Many charges get dropped for having lack of evidence, support. Or they are unsubstantied claims made against the company. Do you know how many companies have had some sort of 'charge' brought against them? Go find a corporate lawyer Wallace, or Willy,lol... hey it sounds close enough. You wouldn't be a shell of a human from the *********** Club would you?

-John
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
Wallace, I will have to forgo by usual habit of not addressing you, but your public post accusing Desormeau of Stock Fraud is a crime in itself, i.e., Criminal Libel. I have copied all of the posts here and will be emailing them to Mr. Desormeau tomorrow for his review and action. You bashers have stepped over the line here, I would recommend contacting your own attorney to determine how much you have stepped over it.
 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Nice Noah...

Wallace, Willy, they are all the same crappy humans...

Lol, I am hoping this idiot hangs themself if CMKX hits above .01

-John
 


Posted by StonedPigeon on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rchaud98:

People this is why I warn you. DO NOT INVEST IN PINKS!!!! PINKS ARE FOR MOMO PLAYS... if you have the need for pennies go to OTC there are some nice plays there but please stay out of the pinks... there is no regulation or control and people can do whatever they want and make up whatever numbers.
--------------------------------------------

People this is why I warn you. DO NOT BELIVE
EVERYTHING YOU READ!!!! ....there is no
regulation or control and people can do or
say whatever they want!!!!
http://messageboardfools.com/bashers.htm


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Uhhooo Wallace,

You have awoken a sleeping Pigeon. You and your house and your car are doomed. There ain't enough soap and water that can clean you or your car from a certain Pigeon's wrath...


Woe, Woe onto Wallace,
For he one day sit in his Palace,
Little did he know,
A Piegon was about to blow,
The Pigeon ate too much Taco Bell,
and crapped Wallace's house to hell,

While Wallace bashed diamonds,
a certain Pigeon was mining,
and ate another Chullapa,
and crapped all over Wallace and left him in a stupor...

-Ode' to a Pigeon
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Noah Wrote: At the risk of sending this back to the top of the board, I just have to respond to yet another basher.
First, I am a retired fraud/white collar crime investigator for the Indianapolis Police Department.

As such, I had many occasions to handle the type of complaint filed in Kentucky. some investor or investors failed to receive their "worms" and went to the Attorney General where Consumer Complaints are regularly processed. The clerk ran a random check of the company and found out that they hadn't paid their "fees". That is the real "crime" here. The State of Kentucky wants their money.

The complaint that was filed, is NOT a criminal complaint, it is a civil action against a company whose President died, (the late owner) and left his wife holding the bag on a company that she probably knew little about operating and caused the complaints from consumers.

Desmoreau is the agent of record of their corporation, filed in Nevada, and has little to do with the worm business except in receiving legal correspondence. You will probably find that he is the agent of record for many corporations around the country who have filed incorporation papers in Nevada. This is a very normal thing when you want to incorporate in a State where your business is not located. This is probably while Urban uses Desmoreau. You have to have a legal address and agent of record to receive corporate legal information and process. That;s the only connection this gentleman has with CMKX.

But for professional bashers, what are a few "facts" between friends. You find someone's name connected to consumer complaint and you make it out ot be the "Crime of the Century" in order to frighten investors. Give it a break guys, you aren't going to scare away the educated investors, and we'll keep watching out for those newbies so you can't get to them either.

Go ahead and take this garbage to other sites if you want, I'll be right behind you to show you for what you are.
---------------------------------------------
Noah, I read the complaint and it looks like you are right here. The worm farm complaint does look like I should be very worried about my investment. Oh!!!! and we might own another company !!!!! Yikes how awful to have more value!-I am so scared! Some people need to worry about the stocks they own that are losing them money and stop worrying about our stock that still up 500% and would be higher if allowed to trade freely. I also hate for this post to be bumped but needed to add my .02 worth. Good Night to all-we might have news in the morning and all the bashing will have been in vain if we open with a buyout offer.
GLTA-DD-IMO-Debi
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I have to break the barrier and post in here to tell you that you guys are real fun (not the bashers - they sound too angry for some reason - life is too short to be angry). We all invested money here that we can afford to loose, we having fun here, we learning - and if it does not work out we will say so what. So get a grip, life goes on.

The patience will be rewarded - holding strong, not buying and not selling.
 


Posted by RobinO on :
 
There's a link on the front page of Allstocks that I think everyone should read before getting into this stuff... http://www.allstocks.com/copia/html/the_basics_of_otcbb.html It has some basic info on researching companies. Interestingly enough, a few things in the article are directly relevant to this and several other stocks that are obviously not quite serious about being a business....... Namely, the info about filing with the SEC, the location of incorporation, and fuzzy PRs.

I can't wait to look back at these threads a few months from now (CMKX, QBID, IBZT, etc) and see what the cheerleaders have to say about their comments. We already saw dozens of people making claims of $1 IBZT a few months ago, and now look at them... The information was there for everyone to see, and the smart/cautious/realistic among us sold out before the slide. I for one appreciate people who provide proper information about a company, regardless of whether or not it's positive or negative. Those of you who label everyone a basher are just dreamers.

I get a kick out of the people who were saying just a few months ago that they'd be retiring soon from their QBID or IBZT shares. There's something to be learned from those people.. Like the funny motivational poster says "Sometimes your purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others."

-R
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Some guy named Noahltl, is trying to pull another cop stunt! Go ahead, email Desormeau. If you look at my post you will see that everything was put in question form?
Further, it should be obvious to a retired police detective what is conveyed as opinion vs fact. Are you trying to use police tactics such as threats, steel toed shoes in the ribs, nightsticks, flashlights? We see that kind of thing nightly on the news. Is that how you got confessions? How many innocent people have been imprisoned with those tactics? Would you want to get your little gun out and shoot me in the back and say you thought I was armed? In my opinion you have demonstrated a typical "bad cop" personality as well as a "civil servant mentality". BULLY???

Learn something about companies and the market!!

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Posted by mdec on :
 
You have aplomb WALLACE
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Hey StonedPigeon I think you should get to work - if you know what I mean!

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'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by mdec on :
 
I applaud you WALLACE
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
JB

LMAO! However, it sounds like you had your big mouth open when the Pigeon flew over and dropped a load in it. LMAO!
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Thank you mdec. Not many of the pumpers would have known how to spell "aplomb", let alone what it means. I am really amazed at these people that have been trading securities for just a short while.
 
Posted by Bo14172 on :
 
I spend a few days on the water with the fam, and I could smell uneducated ilk boiling from there...lo and behold, it led me to here.

Wallace...if you notice, not many take the time to respond to you. You're long in the stock as previously evidenced. You need to take your unsophisticated style with no facts to RB of IHUB.

rcha...new I see.
Does the civil lawsuit about a wormfarm in Kentucky apply to CMKX's current business acitivites in the drilling for diamonds in Canada with JV Partners?
Have you read the civil lawsuit against the worm farmers?
What does it say?
Does the main complaint mention the focus of the complaint being a matter of a wormfarm not being bonded or licenced?
Did you notice that the defendants listed on the complaint is the business itself and the owner of it as an inidividual, not David?
Did you notice in the body of the complaint David was not mentioned?
Did you notice that the second briefing in the only has the name of the defendant, not David?
Still no answer on the relevance of this to finding hundreds of anomalies from the recent magnetic survey?
That's because there isn't.

Please read the following, and promise that you nor anyone you know invest any money in CMKX. Ilk comes in many forms. So please don't invest in them. It will be good to know that's all you'll ever be.

Nice try

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CMKX home page http://www.casavantmining.com/index.html http://newcmkx.proboards33.com/index.cgi http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi http://cmkxdiamonds.proboards28.com/index.cgi?action=register http://www.casavantmining.com/picture_archive.html http://www.casavantmining.com/video_archive.html http://casavantmining.com/images/SitePics5/ http://www.cmkxtreme.com http://www.speedtruck.com/ http://www.ccriderracing.cc/Home_2.html
"Project Surround" Click Zoom In (lower left bar,then click on map) http://casavantmining.com/images/17x11_Oct03.pdf http://www.explorationgis.com/falc_detail.html
Gold Claims ~ #SK claim @ top map cmkx http://www.explorationgis.com/LR_goldbelt.html
Canadian Government map confirmation of diamonds!!! http://cmkmdiamonds.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&num=1085277666[/ URL] [URL=http://142.165.150.133/website/sir_geological_atlas/viewer.htm]http://142.165.150.133/website/sir_geological_atlas/viewer.htm

Map of all Kimberlite Pipes in Sask http://www.pinechannel.com/s/Properties.asp?PropertyInfoID=632&PropertyMapID=676 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1092299/000111776803000002/schedule.htm

Educational http://www.kaiserbottomfish.com/s/Educational.asp?ReportID=71104 http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/diamonds/composition.html http://magazine.globeinvestor.com/servlet/ArticleNews/commentarystory/ GIGOLD/20030203/northernlights.... http://www.diamondregistry.com/check.htm http://www.canadianminingjournal.com/ http://www.canadianminingnews.com/ http://www.src.sk.ca/images/goldanddiamonds.pdf http://www.rs.ca/en/mktpol/umir.asp?printVersion=no&loc1=mktPol&loc2=umir http://www.src.sk.ca/html/labs_facilities/geo_labs/index.cfm http://www.tacyltd.com/Research_Materials_Full.asp?id=53751
#msg-3321342 http://www.rgm.com/articles/nanopierce.html http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=21575009&brk=1 http://www.lawsonlundell.com/resources/DefamationBriefingNote_June2003.pdf http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Investing101/1006.html

CMKX home page http://www.casavantmining.com/index.html http://newcmkx.proboards33.com/index.cgi http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi http://cmkxdiamonds.proboards28.com/index.cgi?action=register http://www.casavantmining.com/picture_archive.html http://www.casavantmining.com/video_archive.html http://casavantmining.com/images/SitePics5/ http://www.cmkxtreme.com http://www.speedtruck.com/ http://www.ccriderracing.cc/Home_2.html
"Project Surround" Click Zoom In (lower left bar,then click on map) http://casavantmining.com/images/17x11_Oct03.pdf http://www.explorationgis.com/falc_detail.html
Gold Claims ~ #SK claim @ top map cmkx http://www.explorationgis.com/LR_goldbelt.html
Canadian Government map confirmation of diamonds!!! http://cmkmdiamonds.proboards27.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&num=1085277666[/ URL] [URL=http://142.165.150.133/website/sir_geological_atlas/viewer.htm]http://142.165.150.133/website/sir_geological_atlas/viewer.htm

Map of all Kimberlite Pipes in Sask http://www.pinechannel.com/s/Properties.asp?PropertyInfoID=632&PropertyMapID=676 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1092299/000111776803000002/schedule.htm

Educational http://www.kaiserbottomfish.com/s/Educational.asp?ReportID=71104 http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/diamonds/composition.html http://magazine.globeinvestor.com/servlet/ArticleNews/commentarystory/ GIGOLD/20030203/northernlights.... http://www.diamondregistry.com/check.htm http://www.canadianminingjournal.com/ http://www.canadianminingnews.com/ http://www.src.sk.ca/images/goldanddiamonds.pdf http://www.rs.ca/en/mktpol/umir.asp?printVersion=no&loc1=mktPol&loc2=umir http://www.src.sk.ca/html/labs_facilities/geo_labs/index.cfm http://www.tacyltd.com/Research_Materials_Full.asp?id=53751
#msg-3321342 http://www.rgm.com/articles/nanopierce.html http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=21575009&brk=1 http://www.lawsonlundell.com/resources/DefamationBriefingNote_June2003.pdf http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Investing101/1006.html

June/29 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces New Transfer Agent http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040629/296053_1.html
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Preliminary Results from Goldak Airborne Magnetic Survey of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040624/245665_1.html
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Message Board Has Been Temporarily Discontinued
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Edwards & Angell, LLP. and CMKM Diamonds Inc. Begin Work
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces "Carolyn Pipe" Lab Results Confirm Diamondiferous Kimberlite
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces It Has Retained D. Roger Glenn, Partner at Edwards & Angell, LLP as Securities Counsel
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces It is Retaining a Large New York Law Firm to Represent Its Interests.
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces the Cancellation of the MRDR Transaction, Internal Audit and Move to New Transfer Agent.
May/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Phase #1 Drilling of Carolyn Pipe completed.
Apr/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Drilling up-date: Carolyn pipe core samples sent away for analysis: ETA on results 3 - 6 weeks
Apr/04 - U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Intersection of Kimberlitic Rock.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' at 900+ Feet and Still in Kimberlite.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Kimberlite Ore Discovery
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Drilling Video Footage Now Available on the Company Web Site.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Joint Venture Option Agreement With United Carina Resources Corp. and Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Progress on Drilling and Exploration Program.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces That Drilling Has Commenced Two Days Ahead of Schedule in the Fort a la Corne Area.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Drilling Program to Commence in the Fort a la Corne Area on Wednesday, March 17, 2004
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds Inc., Formerly Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Announces New Symbol: CMKX
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Assignment of New CUSIP Number
Feb/04 - U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. & CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Joint Venture.
Feb/04 - CMKM is featured in a newspaper article in the Prince Albert Herald.
Feb/04 - CMKM announces the company has obtained funding for US $1.8 million with a further pledge for US 3.2 million.
Feb/04 - CMKM announces drilling program to commence.
Jan/04 - CMKM announces purchase of drill rig, accessories, and extra equipment for drilling. Company Signs One Year Contract With Experienced Drill Foreman to Oversee Drill Operation. Program - Commits to Drilling Numerous Holes in Search Of Kimberlite Pipes in the Forte a la Corne Area and Green Lake Area
Jan/04 - CMKM announces MRDR share exchange and spin out of CIM subsidiary has been approved. Date of record will be January 30, 2004.
Jan/04 - CMKM announced that the Green Lake drill target is now suitable for drilling.
Dec/03 - CMKM announced the company is evaluating two offers from public companies for a partial buyout of selected mining claims.
Dec/03 - CMKM announced CIM spin-out to go public is being evaluated with MRDR, a public shell company listed on the Pink Sheets. Anticipated completion date is Jan. 15/04.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces that targets have been selected to commence drilling on Green Lake and Forte a la Corne.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces 16.5 billion shares officially retired to treasury.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces that spin-out company, Casavant Mining Int. will go public.
Nov/03 - CMKM announces 900,000 dollar joint venture funding contracts with 3 public companies. The three companies contracts that were consummated are: Consolidated Pine Channel Gold (CDNX-KPG-V), Shane Resources (CDNX-SEI-V), and United Carina Resources (CDNX-UCA-V). The agreement is that these companies now have the right to acquire an undivided 10% interest each in 82 prospective claims held by CMKM in consideration for 900,000 dollars in funding.
Nov/03 - CMKM announces over twenty billion shares have been retired back to treasury to date.
Sept/03 - CMKM announces six billion shares are being retired back to treasury.
Sept/03 - CMKM launches corporate website http://www.casavantmining.com
Aug/03 - CMKM announces three million dollar exploration and drilliing program with Durama Enterprises Ltd.
Aug/03 - CMKM announces share dividend payout for CMI.
Aug/03 - CMKM announces 2 for 1 foward stock split.
Jul/03 - CMKM files "Certification and Notice of Termination of Registration" Form 15-12G with SEC. CMKM becomes a non-reporting company.
Apr/03 - CMKM Announces Initial Report on Exploration Project at Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan.

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Posted by Bo14172 on :
 
By the way noah....outstanding post! Bo
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noahltl
Member posted July 05, 2004 22:22
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At the risk of sending this back to the top of the board, I just have to respond to yet another basher.
First, I am a retired fraud/white collar crime investigator for the Indianapolis Police Department.

As such, I had many occasions to handle the type of complaint filed in Kentucky. some investor or investors failed to receive their "worms" and went to the Attorney General where Consumer Complaints are regularly processed. The clerk ran a random check of the company and found out that they hadn't paid their "fees". That is the real "crime" here. The State of Kentucky wants their money.

The complaint that was filed, is NOT a criminal complaint, it is a civil action against a company whose President died, (the late owner) and left his wife holding the bag on a company that she probably knew little about operating and caused the complaints from consumers.

Desmoreau is the agent of record of their corporation, filed in Nevada, and has little to do with the worm business except in receiving legal correspondence. You will probably find that he is the agent of record for many corporations around the country who have filed incorporation papers in Nevada. This is a very normal thing when you want to incorporate in a State where your business is not located. This is probably while Urban uses Desmoreau. You have to have a legal address and agent of record to receive corporate legal information and process. That;s the only connection this gentleman has with CMKX.

But for professional bashers, what are a few "facts" between friends. You find someone's name connected to consumer complaint and you make it out ot be the "Crime of the Century" in order to frighten investors. Give it a break guys, you aren't going to scare away the educated investors, and we'll keep watching out for those newbies so you can't get to them either.

Go ahead and take this garbage to other sites if you want, I'll be right behind you to show you for what you are.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Looks like Bo the "PUMPER" is back!! He be da "big pumper" with all those references that are meaningless. LOL

Keep posting here folks, then we won't have to concern ourselves with it's remaining on top.

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Posted by Race to a Million on :
 
rchaud98,

GZFX all the way!

Great dd! New investors be warned. With all the reputable companies to invest in why throw money in this junk stock? It boggles my mind you guys....

rchaud98....i'll see you at the ferrari dealership soon
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Wallace glad to see you are still here...lol... man you are insane. Go do some DD on another stock. We know you think it is a scam, we really don't give a crap...

If it is like you claim, so be it. If not, we win I like those odds

For some reason you seem super aggressive in trying to disprove this stock. Why are you so angry? Were you breast fed until like age eight or something? I mean we know that your mother dressed you in womens clothing, but what else is that driving urge to post day after day after day, screaming scam? What could motivate a person interested in stocks, so much that they dedicate HOURS AND DAYS to trying to sell other stock investors the idea the stock is a scam? Hmmmm....

-John
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
JBCak47 you retarded? Everything I've written is on file and documented

and for that matter do you live here 24x7 I see you posts here all day and night long

you must have no friends and $$$$ muhahahah
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
Everyone who thinks that CMKX is a worthwhile company please use the other thread and let this one die the death it rightly deserves. IF the company should turn out to be a scam WE the longs will gladly resurrect this board and give all the folks who warned us about it all the accolades they could ever want. Other than that we have heard your negative comments. They are on record here and most of us have good enough recall that we don't need to see the same Yada Yada 42 times. Have a great day all and let's not waste the gift of time fighting and name calling. And Wallace I know you are not a basher but like I used to tell my sister when she sometimes would aggravate my Father 'Don't poke the bear'.
Long and strong on CMKX-Rah-Rah-IMO-DD-Debi
 
Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
company has one chance to do the right thing. If, Joel is right and the O/S is 400 Billion, well we are doomed.

Massive shareholder dilution will be almost impossible to dig out from. Urban has a share buy back in place, but if the company has been dumping shares on the open market at the same time the company was suppose to be in a BUY back. Then that is an indication of shareholder manipulation on the part of the company. And chances are that there is NO share buy back.

I have noway of knowing if the Joel number is correct or not. All I'm saying if it turns out to be true this company cedibilty is all shot to s hit.

One need to face reality (if Massive dilution turns out to be this case)...Firing of the Pacific Transfer Agent is NOT a good sign. It lend credence to the 400 billion share number as an accurate one.

Urban better step up and get that number down (of course this can be manipulated down with their own inhouse Transfer Agent) before the Big PR concerning the O/S is published.

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Posted by emunahstock on :
 
Waisted post here. Good sign, more bashers, PPS will go up soon
 
Posted by pharmdman on :
 
rchaud98, regardless of everything you have posted... JB's question still remains.... if you are not a stock holder, then why do you spend time (much time apparently) on these CMKX boards when you could be doing DD on other stocks and making money? Until you can successfully answer that question, everything else you post here is irrelevent, since it will be viewed as bashing.

Before you respond that I haven't offered any form of rebuttal, please be advised that until you answer that question, everything you have posted is not worthy of rebuttal.

I am aware that CMKX may be less than legitimate... that's why I (and most people on here) have been calling it a "lottery ticket" from the beginning. I have already managed to make money on CMKX, so even it it tanks, so what? I have made money, had fun, and learned more. I wouldn't call that losing.


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Nice to see this particular thread right on top again...we all should keep up the worthwhile effort. It is not "waisted" (aka
"wasted". I thought CMKX and it's pumpers were only knee deep in BS...now, it seems they are "waist" deep.

Debi, I can be a bear as well. All the yada,
yada, yada? All I see from the pumpers and others here in la la land is a repeat of the same ambiguous and misleading crap put out by a self-proclaimed mining company and it's promoters. Redundancy.

I see the pill popping pharmacist is back. That should make that x-cop happy. Still pretending he knows something about the market. Yes, the one who does such great detective work. How many suspects came out of his interrogation room with strange bruises? Or a broom stick up their butt. We have heard it all.

By the way, pumpers, where is that fantastic release you were all expecting today? Where is all speculation about a halt in trading? Come on, pumpers, get with it!!!!!

Will speak with all you pumpers later. Things to do. I know you will all check in on this thread...so, glad to have you on board.


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Posted by pharmdman on :
 
you bet I am, Wallace. I'm still here waiting with baited breath for your answer... you know, to the question that's been asked of you by many people... the question that you refuse to answer... you know the question and we already know the answer, but I'm sure you'll ignore it again.

I'm neither a pumper nor a basher of this stock... i'm just here for the cheap lottery ticket, and that somehow bothers you... I don't know why... probably because for everyone who's in big with little cash, you can't shake them...

Oh, Wallace, just to clear it up... are you in CMKX? if not, then please answer the question that JB asked of that other fool... if you're the Wall Street guru that you claim to be, why waste your time posting about a stock you're not in? if you are, then just enjoy the ride and stop with the negativity...
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
http://explosivestockpicks.com/

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'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
http://wallstreetuniversity.org/

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'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
pharmdman,

Just made a quick check of this thread and then back a project that will yield productive results instead of stinking gas.

Whatever your question was, I am sure you will repeat it. Redundancy is the name of the game for you pumpers. And you, most certainly, are among the PUMPERS!

My many responsibilities on WS included doing everything possible to protect shareholders from SCAMS, to search out, prevent and eliminate CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, to oversee and require proper/accurate reporting and public releasing of company information and to do everything I could to make sure that shareholders (AND POTENTIAL STOCKHOLDERS) were getting a fair and orderly market. That is still of interest and important to me. You couldn't begin to understand what is really happening on WS. I have forgotten more than any of you PUMPERS will ever begin to know. Yes, in my opinion, CMKX is a SCAM!!!!!


 


Posted by sarki316 on :
 
wallace your a ASSHOLE!!!!!! DO ALL OF US ON ALLSTOCKS AND LEAVE THE WEBSITE. YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS IN STOCKS.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
pharmdman,

Just made a quick check of this thread and then back a project that will yield productive results instead of stinking gas.

Whatever your question was, I am sure you will repeat it. Redundancy is the name of the game for you pumpers. And you, most certainly, are among the PUMPERS!

My many responsibilities on WS included doing everything possible to protect shareholders from SCAMS, to search out, prevent and eliminate CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, to oversee and require proper/accurate reporting and public releasing of company information and to do everything I could to make sure that shareholders (AND POTENTIAL STOCKHOLDERS) were getting a fair and orderly market. That is still of interest and important to me. You couldn't begin to understand what is really happening on WS. I have forgotten more than any of you PUMPERS will ever begin to know. Yes, in my opinion, CMKX is a SCAM!!!!!



 


Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
pharmdman,

Just made a quick check of this thread and then back a project that will yield productive results instead of stinking gas.

Whatever your question was, I am sure you will repeat it. Redundancy is the name of the game for you pumpers. And you, most certainly, are among the PUMPERS!

My many responsibilities on WS included doing everything possible to protect shareholders from SCAMS, to search out, prevent and eliminate CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, to oversee and require proper/accurate reporting and public releasing of company information and to do everything I could to make sure that shareholders (AND POTENTIAL STOCKHOLDERS) were getting a fair and orderly market. That is still of interest and important to me. You couldn't begin to understand what is really happening on WS. I have forgotten more than any of you PUMPERS will ever begin to know. Yes, in my opinion, CMKX is a SCAM!!!!!


Sure, Wallace,.. .just for you I'll repeat the question.... I'm paraphrasing the previous, but I'm sure you'll recognize it.

If you're such a whiz on Wall Street, please explain how several weeks ago you did not know what MMs were or who NITE & JEFF were. Your elusive response originally was that you were new to pinks, but that is a bogus reponse and you know it. MMs, NITE, & JEFF are not pink-exclusive.

Also, there is a difference between pumping and excitation. You should learn the difference.... it should be easy for you since you didn't know MMs 6 weeks ago and now you're a Wall Street expert focusing on good deeds for shareholders!
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 

Pharmman took the time out of his day to put a 'I'm Wayne Brady, Bi-tch' wannabe back in his place:

"since you didn't know MMs 6 weeks ago and now you're a Wall Street expert focusing on good deeds for shareholders! "

-PRICELESS!!!LOLOL!!!

Wallace the WALL-street-ACE????? Hmmmmm....

Not likely...

Now ME AND PHARM ARE PUMPERS... Lolol... I love it, its like ebing back in 8th grade with Mr. Wall Street. Wallace the only thing near Wall Street is your dad, turning tricks for a quarter a pop... I know because I saw him, lol I gave him and IOU but I do not intend on paying him back, heheh....

Thats .25 more of cmkx shares...


-John

 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I am too sexy for your byte!
Go CMKX Go!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I thank you all for trying to keep this thread right up top! Bright of you pumpers.
I say again, I think CMKX is a SCAM. I am enjoying it. You serve a vital purpose to individuals who may mistakenly believe your pumps by responding.

WHERE ARE ALL THOSE RELEASES EVERYONE CLAIMED WOULD BE OUT TODAY??? HOW MANY ARE STILL TRADING IN THIS HALTED STOCK???

 


Posted by Ruh916 on :
 
The one thing about messageboards is that it's often easy to find someone's agenda.

Personal attacks and INCONSISTENT information is a definate notice.

I've written off ppl on both sides of this fence for this reason.

I'd really like to see Wallace's response to Pharms post.

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Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I am too sexy for your bite! Feeling good.
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Strong Buy Date: Sun June 27, 2004 01:05:58 PM
Message #: of 102
$2,068,000,000,000 in CMKX value from kimberlite and diamonds

Intrinsic Value ÷ OS = Price that CMKX is worth
850,000,000,000 ÷ 375,175,612,132 = $2.26

*CMKX-The AS/OS 500 Billion Answer*

Everyone, please understand. I heard the interviews on IBC radio were great! I heard that the only thing that they would come back at us about was dealing with not knowing the Outstanding Shares (OS) structure. I was asked by a few; how can we consider that concern? Well here’s how…

What we must do is bring forth the thought with a worse case scenario twist to show how we still would have obtained value to support what a max number would be for our OS. We first logically must show how we derived at this worse case scenario for a max OS number.

** According to this filing below, CMKX had an OS of 7,241,653,404 shares. http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001117768%2D03%2D000002%2Etxt&FilePath...

** They later did a 2 to 1 forward split to take shares to 14,483,306,808 shares.

** The insiders own 85.7% of the 14,483,306,808 shares from the Form 14C, which equates to 12,412,193,934 shares owned by the insiders for voting and controlling rights.

** As time went on, the Authorized Shares (AS) had risen to 200,000,000,000 from talking with the Nevada State Office. Let’s assume that they maxed the AS to be the OS at 200,000,000,000 shares.

So, 200,000,000,000 – 12,412,193,934 = 187,587,806,066

** So, 187,587,806,066 is the max that could be own by the takeover entity.

** This means that Urban and CMKX would need to own more than the above amount of which equates to:

187,587,806,066 x 2 = 375,175,612,132 shares
(We’ll round this number to 380,000,000,000 to make sure we capture the 51% controlling interest and for simplifying the pending calculations.)

** This means that there could be a chance that a takeover candidate could have been plotting against Urban and CMKX so they would need to make sure that they owned 51% of the OS to have the controlling interest in CMKX.

** This was a must to ensure that they own at least 51% of CMKX to stop CMKX from ever being taken over. Urban had no choice but to do this from the way I see it. These shares could have remained in the treasury. They have to be issued and outstanding to be recognized by the SEC and NASD officials to combat any takeover attempt resolutions.

** It was recently discovered that Urban raised the AS to 500,000,000,000 to use as an insurance police against any takeover efforts. This would mean that he felt that someone might be trying to take over CMKX as a business entity and could have bought the required 51% through naked shorted shares to use as justification.

** So bottom line, the increase of the OS to 500 billion was to make sure they capture the needed 380 billion to have for the OS to create their own insurance policy to prevent any takeover attempts.

** Having such a large OS is not an issue because of the value that resides within CMKX.

** An OS of this magnitude is required to make sure there is enough liquidity for trading purposes.

** Another key thought is to understand that it’s all about “Supply versus Demand” when your shares are trading in the market. Once the float is gone, it’s gone. It doesn’t matter whether or not your OS is 5 million shares or 5 trillion shares. When the float is gone, it’s gone.

Now for determining the use of an Intrinsic Value of 850 billion from the use of residual valuation pricing techniques, let’s consider some logical deduction. If that little piece of 58,000 acres of DeBeers could be valued at $40 to $80 billion, surely our now nearly 3 million acres of land that surrounds those 58,000 acres of land of DeBeers could be worth much more. (OK, maybe I know this, but let’s act like I don’t.) Let’s even forget that we “probably” own two thirds of that piece of land too. Keep the theories in the link below in your thoughts too: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=6425

What if $40 to $80 billion is the price valuation ratio for every piece of the 58,000 acres of land? This would equate to our pieces of land in the FALC region to be:

3,000,000 ÷ 58,000,000 = 51.7 groupings of 58,000 acres to be multiplied by $40 to $80 billion ratio.

Some groupings could be easily valued in the area of $80 billion, but we will use the low side of $40 billion to consider what would warrant below:

$40,000,000,000 x 51.7 = $2,068,000,000,000 in CMKX value from kimberlite and diamonds

Hopefully you can now see how with even using an intrinsic value of 850 billion is very conservative when providing logical deduction as to how CMKX could very well be worth over $2 trillion in kimberlite and diamonds alone. This does not include the overabundance of having gold, platinum, uranium, titanium, and of course diamonds.

Since we don’t really know if the 850 billion we will use as the Intrinsic Value is based on an annual, quarterly, or exponential value, we will not need to multiply by a PE Ratio because the growth rate is not known for the residual valuation pricing techniques just used.

Intrinsic Value ÷ OS = Price that CMKX is worth
850,000,000,000 ÷ 375,175,612,132 = $2.26

Keep in mind that 51% of the OS, 191,339,562,187 shares will be restricted and owned by insiders. This means that the share structure would look as followed:

375,175,612,132 = OS
191,339,562,187 = Restricted Shares
183,836,049,943 = Float

Let me inform you of a little secret; once the float is gone, the float is gone as I had mentioned earlier. This could be why the stock has not moved as of yet. If this is the case then maybe there is not a short, then maybe there is. The revealed value will cause the float to be dried up very quickly once officially released if there is not a short position.

With all the value that we have, who cares? A stock with this much value will be needing the liquidity for trading purposes. This is why we do not need a reverse split. I say bring on the PRs to justify value and growth of the company and everything else will run its course!!!

Now, if there really is a naked short position, then that’s a whole increased story for exponential gains that we will consider discussing later. That would be too powerful.


…that $1.00 is a good minimum share price to offer to buy us shareholders out for Urban and CMKX to go private. From the logic above, CMKX could easily be worth $2.26 per share. This would no doubt to force a naked short covering out of this world. The good thing about this, even if you don’t believe that there is a short, then what was posted above would transpire still as a minimum.

Urban has a great many friends and family members invested into CMKX at much higher prices than where CMKX is currently trading. Just breaking even is not the goal. Urban is a people person and has a wonderful attitude, understanding, and concern for all shareholders to include us little guys here in RB land. I trust Urban and his team of experts and so should we all!

_______________________

I chose this title because I think this is the name that fits the upcoming success story with CMKX. I think I heard either Peter or Frank mention it too and I liked it. Urban Casavant has the same goal as I which is to create a million millionaires for those who have read my initial posts on my board. What a coincidence.

Please consider these thoughts that you are about to read as “theory” until proven as “facts” from Urban and CMKX.

Urban believes that the naked short position on CMKX could very well be 1 trillion shares. To force the shorts to cover, an accountability process must take place. The changing of the CUSIP# was done earlier for them to first gather internal accountability of all CMKX shares. Also to kind of serve as a warning for the market makers, MMs, to consider covering any naked shorted positions.

Now comes the time to force the MMs to gather accountability for covering. Urban can do this by re-issuing CIM shares as a dividend to all current shareholders of CMKX shares to be effective by an execution date sometime in the near future. Maybe some date like 15 Jun or 30 June 04.

But first and at the same time, announce that CMKX has made a $1.00 per share tender offer to buy all shares of CMKX shareholder’s shares to take the company private. They will be willing to do this because insiders own at least 85.7% of the OS so it would really be like buying out yourself or paying yourself. Going private along with re-issuing the CIM dividend will no doubt force the MMs to cover all naked shorted positions.

You can do a lot when you own billions of dollars in gold, platinum, uranium, kimberlite, and diamonds to say the least. Buying us out to go private at $1.00 per share still might be too low, but I’m sure many would appreciate such yet still.

Now after the announcement of taking CMKX private, CMKX will make the announcement that those who buy CMKX up to the new execution date will receive a 1,000 to 1 dividend of CIM shares to further compensate the value that the company has determined to award fair value to its shareholders.

That’s right, CMKX will take back those already old CIM shares to give them in return the newly re-issued CIM shares with value unlike before. Others who never had any CIM shares would receive CIM shares under the same newly 1,000 to 1 ratio and investors will have up until the new execution date to buy to receive the newly re-issued CIM shares dividend.

They will also announce that CIM will apply for a new CUSIP# and ticker to submit application to trading on the NASDAQ National Market since they must trade with four symbols on the NASDAQ markets. They will announce that Qualifications are expected to be met by some future date maybe like 31 Jul or Aug 04 to submit application to the NASDAQ National Market. This means that CIM would trade at no lower than $5.00 per share.

The Look of the CIM Dividend
We will guess and say that CMKX OS is 40 billion shares and the OS for CIM is to be 40 million shares.

CMKX OS ÷ CIM OS = Dividend Ratio
40,000,000,000 ÷ 40,000,000 = Dividend Ratio
1,000 = Dividend Ratio

With 1,000 to 1 Dividend of CIM shares this means you pay the following to get the end result listed below:

1,000 Shares of CMKX = .10 cents
1 Share of CIM = $5.00

So…
1,000 Shares of CMKX = 1 Share of CIM

Or to better review...
.10 cents = $5.00

This is saying that for every .10 cents you spend, you will receive $5.00 back in return.

In Summary…
** If you bought 10,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0001 cent, it would cost you $1,000 total.

In return you would receive in CIM shares:

CMKX shares ÷ Dividend Ratio = Total shares of CIM
10,000,000 ÷ 1,000 = 10,000

This means that your total value in your brokerage account would be as below:

10,000,000 x .0001 = $1,000 for CMKX
10,000 x $5.00 = $50,000 for CIM

Again, not a merger, a dividend to where the shareholders get to keep their 10,000,000 shares of CMKX and receive their new 10,000 shares of CIM at the dividend rate of 1 CIM share for every 1,000 CMKX shares you have or buy before the execution date in the very near future. The total amount from the brokerage account would be $51,000 from your initial investment of $1,000 of CMKX shares, right?

Not so. Don’t forget that your 10,000,000 million shares of CMKX will be given the tender offer of $1.00 per share so that would make that equate to:

$10,000,000 + $50,000 = $10,050,000 in total value

This is very powerful. CIM is used as the company for the dividend because CIM has claims to a huge zinc find that is valued at a tremendous amount. Urban wants to reward previous shareholders and current shareholders who had not the opportunity to become shareholders of CMKX by its first CIM date of execution. Because of such, he is re-issuing shares of CIM and using as the selected company to move to the NASDAQ.

Now get this, we are still not done with accessing value. Analyze what is transpiring to place actual value in CMKX to further entice investors to take a position in CMKX if what was discussed above was not enough.

To Determine a Minimum CMKX Valuation for the Tender Offer
It has been now determined that we actually picked up two thirds of the piece of land that was originally thought to have been DeBeers and was that piece of land/kimberlite that Dr. Hutchison valued at $40 to $80 billion.

Let’s take the low side to determine fundamental valuation. Two thirds of $40 billion is about $26 billion. I will use that amount x 2 as the amount as income because of what many will soon discover is that we have far more resources and locations that would allow that to be used as a minimum. This figure of $52 billion would definitely cover above and beyond any expenses. Again, I think such would be revealed soon to show how this figure is still being conservative.

From the above example we guesstimated that the OS for CMKX was no higher than 40 billion so we will us the same figure here. Please observe:

Income ÷ CMKX OS = EPS
52,000,000,000 ÷ 40,000,000,000 = EPS
1.30 = EPS

So giving the share holders a Tender Offer of $1.00 could be viewed as a conservative offer by Urban and CMKX, but yet still would be greatly appreciated.

** Now what if we really do have a huge abundance silver, zinc, gold, uranium, platinum, and diamonds to say the least?

** Now what if CMKX is 1 trillion shares naked shorted as anticipated?

** Now what if we do have miles and miles of kimberlite that was discovered from the aerial survey?

** Now what if they encountered an overburden that was valued at 500+ million?

** Now what if they had billions of dollars of kimberlite alone that they use to re-mineralize and sell as soil?

** Now what if one of the newly found kimberlite pipes is miles and miles long?

** Now what if this is going to be the biggest margin call in the world?

** Now what if we do have micro and macro diamonds in all of our kimberlite found?

** Now what if there really are lots of corporate investors that are about to join the party?

** Now what if there were huge zinc deposits found to be issued under the CIM shares?

** Now what if Urban have many friends and family that are long term investors in CMKX?

** Now what if Urban promised that he would take care of them and make them all millionaires?

** Now what if our claims are now up to nearly 3 million acres in the FALC region?

** Now what if all of this is the big plan Urban has to get the shorts?

** Now what if we have one pipe of kimberlite that is miles and miles long?

** Now what if we have all the money and support we need to make all of this happen?

** Now what if Urban really love the shareholders as many of us thinks?

** Now what if all above is true?

As I stated earlier in this post, please consider these thoughts that you have read as “theory” until proven as “facts” from Urban and CMKX. The above will only become official only when Urban and CMKX make such official. Until then, these are only my thoughts. It is my opinion that CMKX will make many of us prosperous!

________________________

I chose this title because I think this is the name that fits the upcoming success story with CMKX. I think I heard either Peter or Frank mention it too and I liked it. Urban Casavant has the same goal as I which is to create a million millionaires for those who have read my initial posts on my board. What a coincidence.

Please consider these thoughts that you are about to read as “theory” until proven as “facts” from Urban and CMKX.

Urban believes that the naked short position on CMKX could very well be 1 trillion shares. To force the shorts to cover, an accountability process must take place. The changing of the CUSIP# was done earlier for them to first gather internal accountability of all CMKX shares. Also to kind of serve as a warning for the market makers, MMs, to consider covering any naked shorted positions.

Now comes the time to force the MMs to gather accountability for covering. Urban can do this by re-issuing CIM shares as a dividend to all current shareholders of CMKX shares to be effective by an execution date sometime in the near future. Maybe some date like 15 Jun or 30 June 04.

But first and at the same time, announce that CMKX has made a $1.00 per share tender offer to buy all shares of CMKX shareholder’s shares to take the company private. They will be willing to do this because insiders own at least 85.7% of the OS so it would really be like buying out yourself or paying yourself. Going private along with re-issuing the CIM dividend will no doubt force the MMs to cover all naked shorted positions.

You can do a lot when you own billions of dollars in gold, platinum, uranium, kimberlite, and diamonds to say the least. Buying us out to go private at $1.00 per share still might be too low, but I’m sure many would appreciate such yet still.

Now after the announcement of taking CMKX private, CMKX will make the announcement that those who buy CMKX up to the new execution date will receive a 1,000 to 1 dividend of CIM shares to further compensate the value that the company has determined to award fair value to its shareholders.

That’s right, CMKX will take back those already old CIM shares to give them in return the newly re-issued CIM shares with value unlike before. Others who never had any CIM shares would receive CIM shares under the same newly 1,000 to 1 ratio and investors will have up until the new execution date to buy to receive the newly re-issued CIM shares dividend.

They will also announce that CIM will apply for a new CUSIP# and ticker to submit application to trading on the NASDAQ National Market since they must trade with four symbols on the NASDAQ markets. They will announce that Qualifications are expected to be met by some future date maybe like 31 Jul or Aug 04 to submit application to the NASDAQ National Market. This means that CIM would trade at no lower than $5.00 per share.

The Look of the CIM Dividend
We will guess and say that CMKX OS is 40 billion shares and the OS for CIM is to be 40 million shares.

CMKX OS ÷ CIM OS = Dividend Ratio
40,000,000,000 ÷ 40,000,000 = Dividend Ratio
1,000 = Dividend Ratio

With 1,000 to 1 Dividend of CIM shares this means you pay the following to get the end result listed below:

1,000 Shares of CMKX = .10 cents
1 Share of CIM = $5.00

So…
1,000 Shares of CMKX = 1 Share of CIM

Or to better review...
.10 cents = $5.00

This is saying that for every .10 cents you spend, you will receive $5.00 back in return.

In Summary…
** If you bought 10,000,000 shares of CMKX at .0001 cent, it would cost you $1,000 total.

In return you would receive in CIM shares:

CMKX shares ÷ Dividend Ratio = Total shares of CIM
10,000,000 ÷ 1,000 = 10,000

This means that your total value in your brokerage account would be as below:

10,000,000 x .0001 = $1,000 for CMKX
10,000 x $5.00 = $50,000 for CIM

Again, not a merger, a dividend to where the shareholders get to keep their 10,000,000 shares of CMKX and receive their new 10,000 shares of CIM at the dividend rate of 1 CIM share for every 1,000 CMKX shares you have or buy before the execution date in the very near future. The total amount from the brokerage account would be $51,000 from your initial investment of $1,000 of CMKX shares, right?

Not so. Don’t forget that your 10,000,000 million shares of CMKX will be given the tender offer of $1.00 per share so that would make that equate to:

$10,000,000 + $50,000 = $10,050,000 in total value

This is very powerful. CIM is used as the company for the dividend because CIM has claims to a huge zinc find that is valued at a tremendous amount. Urban wants to reward previous shareholders and current shareholders who had not the opportunity to become shareholders of CMKX by its first CIM date of execution. Because of such, he is re-issuing shares of CIM and using as the selected company to move to the NASDAQ.

Now get this, we are still not done with accessing value. Analyze what is transpiring to place actual value in CMKX to further entice investors to take a position in CMKX if what was discussed above was not enough.

To Determine a Minimum CMKX Valuation for the Tender Offer
It has been now determined that we actually picked up two thirds of the piece of land that was originally thought to have been DeBeers and was that piece of land/kimberlite that Dr. Hutchison valued at $40 to $80 billion.

Let’s take the low side to determine fundamental valuation. Two thirds of $40 billion is about $26 billion. I will use that amount x 2 as the amount as income because of what many will soon discover is that we have far more resources and locations that would allow that to be used as a minimum. This figure of $52 billion would definitely cover above and beyond any expenses. Again, I think such would be revealed soon to show how this figure is still being conservative.

From the above example we guesstimated that the OS for CMKX was no higher than 40 billion so we will us the same figure here. Please observe:

Income ÷ CMKX OS = EPS
52,000,000,000 ÷ 40,000,000,000 = EPS
1.30 = EPS

So giving the share holders a Tender Offer of $1.00 could be viewed as a conservative offer by Urban and CMKX, but yet still would be greatly appreciated.

** Now what if we really do have a huge abundance silver, zinc, gold, uranium, platinum, and diamonds to say the least?

** Now what if CMKX is 1 trillion shares naked shorted as anticipated?

** Now what if we do have miles and miles of kimberlite that was discovered from the aerial survey?

** Now what if they encountered an overburden that was valued at 500+ million?

** Now what if they had billions of dollars of kimberlite alone that they use to re-mineralize and sell as soil?

** Now what if one of the newly found kimberlite pipes is miles and miles long?

** Now what if this is going to be the biggest margin call in the world?

** Now what if we do have micro and macro diamonds in all of our kimberlite found?

** Now what if there really are lots of corporate investors that are about to join the party?

** Now what if there were huge zinc deposits found to be issued under the CIM shares?

** Now what if Urban have many friends and family that are long term investors in CMKX?

** Now what if Urban promised that he would take care of them and make them all millionaires?

** Now what if our claims are now up to nearly 3 million acres in the FALC region?

** Now what if all of this is the big plan Urban has to get the shorts?

** Now what if we have one pipe of kimberlite that is miles and miles long?

** Now what if we have all the money and support we need to make all of this happen?

** Now what if Urban really love the shareholders as many of us thinks?

** Now what if all above is true?

As I stated earlier in this post, please consider these thoughts that you have read as “theory” until proven as “facts” from Urban and CMKX. The above will only become official only when Urban and CMKX make such official. Until then, these are only my thoughts. It is my opinion that CMKX will make many of us prosperous!


 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
Wow closed at .0004 surprise surprise ... Here we go back down to .0003 this week. Then .0002 next week. The scam is over

 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Ruh420,

I did respond to the question a long time back...but in very brief detail. I will do so again in more detail just for you.

I have been trading securities since the 1960's and am fully invested and quite comfortable with my investments. I had about $50K I could afford to play around with and not be the least bit hurt if I lost all of it.

Where I worked and managed on Wall Street, we had absolutely nothing to do with OTCBB or PINKS. As a matter of fact, they were and still are a joke. I got involved with them on a lark and to see what fun I could have with them. I plan to continue to do so.

My experience has strictly been with reputable securities markets and companies. I had no reason to get involved with MMs or Pinks. They are not considered worth bothering with by most people working on WS. When I decided to PLAY with Pinks, then was when I wanted to know more about the MMs and how to precisely follow their trading, tactics, etc. It would not have been prudent of me to do otherwise.

In addition I have advanced degrees from an extremely reputable and well known University. I graduated magna cum laude.
Suma cum laude was out of the question because I had to work my way through college. It is not beneath me to try to learn more about things...no matter how old I get.

The above information in no way negates my knowledge of stocks (both preferred and common), trading, IPOs, secondary offerings, debentures, exchange listings, delistings, traded companies, financial reports, public releases, corporate counsels, corporate resolutions, opinions of counsel, transfer agents, conflicts of interest, illegal voting arrangements, shareholder reports, option plans, acquisitions, mergers, splits, dividends - cash or stock, insider trading and the basic mechanics of securities trading specifically or in general. I worked with such things all day long...and so did the people I managed. Everything went through the operations in which I was involved.

I neither see nor saw any need to be more specific with someone like a pharmacist, an x-cop or a bunch of people lost in la la land. They could not begin to understand the detail that has to be considered in each and every activity associated with the above matters.

Such things as authorized shares, issued shares, outstanding shares, float and treasury shares are kid stuff to me...and I understood them long before anyone posting on these threads ever thought to inquire about them.

Sure, there are questions I still have about the MMs and the PINKS...but not very many now. Because I was willing to learn and listen to those who had the knowledge. The fact that I can do so, is more than I can say about most of the posters on the CMKX threads.

I trust this answers your curiosity.
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 

Lol Wallace and Michael Jackson has always been black...

Thank you for taking your time to tell us about yourself.

Don't you love the part that he has 50k to throw around,lol... nice to add that in there ace

See my plan is not to be as old as you are when you have that 50k to throw around Wallace. I am 23 and do not want to wait until your ripe old age when people like Pharm have to give you your Viagra... or change the Depends....

-John

 


Posted by kguts11 on :
 
I won't begin to claim that I know what this company will do, or to know facts surrounding tyhe share structure or plans of the company. I will just say that I wasn't able to finish what you wrote, because when you stated things as "facts" that you have no actual idea about, by virtue of them being negative lies, that makes you a basher. Therefore, what you post is not worth reading. It goes both ways. Stating opinions, or even blatant lies as facts, whether positive or negative, makes you either a pumper or a basher. Not an optimist or a pessimist, as you would be if you were stating your opinions as opinions, or your lies as lies rather then as facts. I hope this clears thing up for you.

By the way, Wallace. What's the deal with bashing cops now. No offense, but I would have to guess that you have been in some legal trouble, probably dealing with securities, based on the fact that you were so quick to bash the securities lawyer they hired, and now are so enthusiastically bashing police officers in general. I don't mean any offense by that, just stating my opinion based on what appears obvious to me. have a good even all.

Kev

quote:
Originally posted by rchaud98:
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Try your magic spins with this info.

First URBAN CASAVANT has not been in the diamond minning business professionaly for 15 to 20 years as some of you claim. I dought it if has been it at all except for the 3 years he has been swindeling you people.

He and his pals have been and still are involved in many other companys (scams) incorprated in Navada. So many that I quit looking once a pattern emerged.

The 500 billion issue.

You can say all you want to about "oh maybe he hasn't issued all the shares, or he has been retiring shares as fast as he can.)

"fact is CMKX is authorised to issue 500 billion shares and he has been dumping the into the market for months now. Big deal he claims to have retired 20 billion shares that still leaves 480 billion issued."

You can remove this post if you want to and I expect you will. I intend to post it on every board I find on CMKX

By the way DAVID DESORMEAU CMKX's CFO has already been charge in Kentucky with stock fraud in another case.


Dean Heller
Nevada Secretary of State
Corporate Information

CANADIAN DIAMOND FIELDS INTERNATIONAL, INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: JAMES KINNEY HCR 33 BOX 2594, LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: JAMES KINNEY HCR 33 BOX 2594, LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: May 19, 2003

CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING CORPORATION
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: CAROLYN CASAVANT PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: EMMERSON KOCH PO BOX 27740, LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: January 21, 2003

CASAVANT RACING CORPORATION
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.


DESERT STOCK TRANSFER COMPANY
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Treasurer: URBAN CASAVANT 4955 S DURANGO #214 LAS VEGAS NV.
Incorporated On: July 01, 2004

SILVER FOX CAPITAL INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.

Incorporated On: February 17, 2004

SL INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENTS INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: STEVE RADFORD 120 BEACHWOOD TRAIL, MICHIBAN CITY ID
Secretary: JOHN CRANDELL 1452 BRAMFIELD CT, LAS VEGAS NV
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: July 10, 2003

STONEHENGE INC
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: JON THIRIOT PO BOX 30234 , LAS VEGAS NV
Incorporated On: June 01, 2001

VI-COM HOLDING INC.
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: VICTOR CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Secretary: VICTOR CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: BEVERLY CASAVANT 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: February 24, 2004

CASAVANT GOLF COMPANY
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
President: URBAN CASAVANT 30 PRINCIVILLE CT, LAS VEGAS NV.
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: January 06, 2003

EYECANDY ENTERTAINMENT INC.
Business Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV
Resident Agent: DAVID DESORMEAU 3340 S TOPAZ #100, LAS VEGAS NV
President: JOHN D. GUZMAN 2519 PUTING GREEN DRIVE, HENDERSON NV
Secretary: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Treasurer: DAVID DESORMEAU 1603 MOWBRAY CT, HENDERSON NV.
Incorporated On: August 11, 1999


FRAUD CHARGES THAT HAVE BEEN FILED OS OF THIS DATE :
1. COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY
NELSON CIRCUIT COURT
NO. ___03-CI-00190_____ http://www.law.state.ky.us/news/2003rel/wormComplaint.pdf

[/B]



 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
****************NEWS OUT************

Where's Wallace? The new childrens book.

Wallace took the time to share this information with us at Allstocks:

"I have been trading securities since the 1960's"

-So pretty much what Wallace is trying to tell us is that he is as young as the Kimberlite CMKX is currently mining?!?!?

hehe... Wallace be carefull not to break that hip of yours... lol... (I can't resist).

Woe for Wallace when he see's one of those commericals that go, 'I've fallen, and I can't get up!'...

-John
 


Posted by justplayin on :
 
Wallace, I am curious to know if the knowledge of those you trust and have gained your knowledge of Pinks have told you the right information.

Those of us that have traded pennies and pinks for quite some time have learned that, pinks especially, move more on emotion than DD and/or TA.

The best advice I have received from this board and it's members is this.... Get into a FREE share position while trading on the emotion of the penny market. After that, it doesn't really matter what the stock does.

Most of us that you are warning already have free shares and some profit to boot from CMKX.

Also, those that you are warning (the newbies) will make these mistakes in any penny stock.

There are different rules in pennyland, so you knowledge from Wall Street may be a good base, but mostly do not work in pennyland.

And yes, we heard you, we know you don't like this stock.

Welcome to pennies and pinkies.

P.S. Have you ever heard of a shell company. I have made considerable money playing them.
 


Posted by richnessforeveryone on :
 
rchaud....
Thousand, thousand, thousand thanks for your DD..........
You saved me a lot of hours for explain this to the dreamers here.......
Like you said....NEVER INVEST (AGAIN)IN PINKSHEET STOCKS......LOOK AT QBID.....NO ONE CARRIER/ADVERTISER KNOW THIS COMPANY
People must understand that MM's conspiracy and naked shorting is a dream.....
Pumper always use this theory for explain a low pps.
A pps reflect always the reality or do you think that MM's only short stocks ?????

 
Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
The Dutch ******* is still here...

Now I know why I hate many Europeans...

-John
 


Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
...Thank you for taking your time to tell us about yourself.
...
-John

That post tells me volumes about the author... since when are MMs exclusive to OTC & pinks? Also, if he knew enough about them to know that they were jokes, wouldn't he know why?

If he's truly been around since the 60's, wouldn't a 'good' Wall Street person (especially a manager, as claimed) have tried to understand what the "new beast called NASDAQ" was all about? Just a thought....

BTW, Wallace.. if you're going to try to insult me, at least get it right. I'm not a pill-popping pharmacist, I'm a pill-pushing pharmacist. Also, we only have your word that you went to a reputable school, since you still failed to name it. I guess JB would be able to tear it apart if you named it. (again, volumes spoken)

However, it is so kind of you to concern yourself with the well-being of the CMKX shareholders. I can't believe that you spend your time looking out for them instead of researching stocks in which you could make serious profit. Your 'reputable' degree must include a minor in social services.



 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
richness you IDIOT

"NO ONE CARRIER/ADVERTISER KNOW THIS COMPANY"

THERE IS A PR WITH A CONTRACT WITH TIME WARNER

We were shown on COMCAST AND COX CABLE, THOSE ARE THREE CARRIERS WHO HAVE HEARD OF US.

See, this guy really is an idiot...

Cox Cable of New Orleans.

COMCAST Cable of Washington...

BUT YES, NO ONE HAS HEARD OF US!!! IDIOT!

-John
 


Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by richnessforeveryone:
rchaud....
Thousand, thousand, thousand thanks for your DD..........
You saved me a lot of hours for explain this to the dreamers here.......
Like you said....NEVER INVEST (AGAIN)IN PINKSHEET STOCKS......LOOK AT QBID.....NO ONE CARRIER/ADVERTISER KNOW THIS COMPANY
People must understand that MM's conspiracy and naked shorting is a dream.....
Pumper always use this theory for explain a low pps.
A pps reflect always the reality or do you think that MM's only short stocks ?????


Should I tell my accountant to give back the 10K profit I made on QBID because it was just a dream.

GET REAL!! Money can be made by playing the swings. Who ever said that we all were in these companies for life.

You people who don't think you can make money on pinks need to go back to the blue chips.

 


Posted by pharmdman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:

Should I tell my accountant to give back the 10K profit I made on QBID because it was just a dream.

GET REAL!! Money can be made by playing the swings. Who ever said that we all were in these companies for life.

You people who don't think you can make money on pinks need to go back to the blue chips.


Very nicely stated, JP.
 


Posted by richnessforeveryone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
richness you IDIOT

"NO ONE CARRIER/ADVERTISER KNOW THIS COMPANY"

THERE IS A PR WITH A CONTRACT WITH TIME WARNER

We were shown on COMCAST AND COX CABLE, THOSE ARE THREE CARRIERS WHO HAVE HEARD OF US.

See, this guy really is an idiot...

Cox Cable of New Orleans.

COMCAST Cable of Washington...

BUT YES, NO ONE HAS HEARD OF US!!! IDIOT!

-John


JBCak.......you poor man....
Have you see QBID pps today ????
No ??????
Than look at him....lol
 


Posted by richnessforeveryone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:

Should I tell my accountant to give back the 10K profit I made on QBID because it was just a dream.

GET REAL!! Money can be made by playing the swings. Who ever said that we all were in these companies for life.

You people who don't think you can make money on pinks need to go back to the blue chips.


Like I said it many thimes....EVEN WITH A SCAM YOU CAN MAKE MONEY...but you take enormous risks like I know many people don't invested only a few $$$$ but thousands on them......burned money if yo don't sold at 0.001
 


Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by richnessforeveryone:
Like I said it many thimes....EVEN WITH A SCAM YOU CAN MAKE MONEY...but you take enormous risks like I know many people don't invested only a few $$$$ but thousands on them......burned money if yo don't sold at 0.001

And people buy lottery tickets. What's your point. Are you on the corner next to the party store telling them not to buy???

If an investor is not smart enough to not risk more than they can lose should they even play in pennyland?

 


Posted by richnessforeveryone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
And people buy lottery tickets. What's your point. Are you on the corner next to the party store telling them not to buy???

If an investor is not smart enough to not risk more than they can lose should they even play in pennyland?


Ok...but for take the money the lottery tickets brought you you need to cash him over a certain laps of time otherwise he will lose his value.....capito????
Perhaps I need to tell it you in French or German ????
 


Posted by justplayin on :
 
Richness, forgive me but I don't understand your last post!!

No, I don't understand. And I prefer English. LOL
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I am queen of the jungle....any body want to see my resume...

By the way Wallace if you so educated and experienced, then what are you doing in pinks.

And you still did not answer my simple question: Why you hate CMKX so much?

I cannot believe I am getting myself into this mess.....
 


Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
I am queen of the jungle....any body want to see my resume...
I cannot believe I am getting myself into this mess.....

Does it involve leopard skin?? LOL
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Does it involve leopard skin?? LOL

Yes, and as a bonus you get the lion skin. Which one do you prefer, mama or papa skin? lol Just kiddin'!


------------------
'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Yes, and as a bonus you get the lion skin. Which one do you prefer, mama or papa skin? lol Just kiddin'!


I am like a kid in the candy store, I want both

 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Sounds good, what's your size, so we can start shrinking or stretching process....and hurry only few left. lol
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
46L, make that 48L. I have some stocks that I think might go up and make me fat, dumb, and happy. Looks like I am 2/3 there. LOL
 
Posted by HarryHar on :
 
Richness: You say pumpers use "naked short" to explain low pps. That may be true in some cases, but how about cases like CMKX where billions upon billions traded, with no increase/decrease in pps? It is a "more than reasonable" explanation to this type of pps behavior considering the volume, right?

The name of this thread takes ALL CREDIBILITY away from Rchaud or whatever his name is. You labeled yourself a paid basher the second you named this thread. Good job.

[This message has been edited by HarryHar (edited July 06, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by HarryHar (edited July 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Check your mail in the near future, putting on the stretcher as we write....lol Your invoice, is priceless.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TradingWizard:
Check your mail in the near future, putting on the stretcher as we write....lol Your invoice, is priceless.

Can I pay with diamonds??


 


Posted by Spastic_Gramps on :
 
I hate to bump this up, but after reading Wally's little life story I had to laugh.I haven't seen that much bull$hit since I went to the radio.
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Can I pay with diamonds??

Oh dear, they are my best friend! Skin for diamond, best deal in a life time, so others get in while you can, because you will need many skins for such deal later!

[This message has been edited by TradingWizard (edited July 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH


GUESS WHAT CMKX CLOSED AT .0004


QUICK TRY TO SPIN MORE LIES ON NAKED SHORTING BRINGING THE PRICE DOWN!! QUICK SAY IT WAS PART OF UC's MASTER PLAN!!!


NOT

Friday this stock will be testing .0003/.0002

the SCAM IS OVER and thanks to all the pumpers that made me a profit from .0004 bursting up to .0011
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
Re: No PR = ZERO Credibility...!!
« Reply #64 on: Today at 7:24pm »
hey pheenix i don't take offense to the fact that you call me a basher....cause all you add to the info surrounding this stock are dreams of one dollar in a week...simply isn't going to happen...i on the other hand have realistic information...i have done serious DD and have access to people you have no idea even exist...and the only reason i am still in this stock is because of the information i am given...but i can tell you this...if you put all your promise on melvin you are destined to be taken for a ride...while melvin might be an outstanding human being...he is not in the loop...he has backstepped on all the promises he declares on IBC and on the previous CMKX board...i would supply you with my links and contacts for my DD but it isn't any use...people believe here what they want to believe and believe the theories that promote the most promise for PPS appreciation...it is obvious when you point out facts on this board you are called a basher...people here are blindly putting their faith in certain people without getting to the root of issues...i am in this stock for now...but i constantly review my position and if these things about T/A and share structure aren't cleared up soon i am out...there has been plenty of time to address these issues and they aren't addressed soon...somebody i feel is trying to hide something

http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&start=20


lol it's all falling apart
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Doing some DD (or rather a research on bashers). Enjoy!

A BASHERS HANDBOOK: know the enemy who wishes to steal your money! Do not underestimate a bashers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book" so to speak. Learn from it or donate your money to those who make an organized plan to steal your money!

BASHERS DO THE FOLLOWING:
1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a support base before initiating your bashing routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build to it.
8. Identify your foes (hypsters) and the boards "guru" Use them to your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "basher". Newbies won't know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, DO NOT NAME CALL and DO NOT USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people for taking the companies word for anything. Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the hypsters into personal debates putting their focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts. Show them the facts from a "different angle."
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to instead of the one your bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules.

GRADE YOUR FAVORITE BASHER:

Advanced Basher:
Will join the message board early and actually "pump" the stock with positives; this basher is very intelligent, has the facts of the company, actually helps longs with Due Diligence and generally gets the confidence of the stockholders. Then, when the stock hits their price, the tone will change and they will start asking longs to check into this and check into that. The seeds of doubt are being planted. This basher will then start using all the tactics listed on this page to create seeds of doubt. ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PROFILE OF A PERSON YOU SUSPECT. ASK WHAT STOCKS THEY'VE "SUPPORTED" IN THE PAST AND CHECK OUT THE MESSAGE BOARD. An honest person will have a positive track record that can be followed. I strongly believe that a contrary view is needed but this person is out to steal your money and does it by deception and creates fear after gaining confidence! BEWARE, this is the most clever basher and the hardest to spot.

Grade A Basher:
Posts lots of old news, responds to all positive posts with a negative side. Never responds to being called a basher, never posts on another board. Can spend up to 80 hours a week bashing a stock.

Grade B Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.

Grade C Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.

Grade D Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week. Grade F Basher: A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.

WHY BASH?: MONEY (the usual reason), SPORT, ENTERTAINMENT. Some bashers are compelled to bash because they are inherently a part of the dark side of life so they must do it. It's a sad fact but never the less, a fact. It's life so you must learn how to deal with it or become a victim!

LEARN ABOUT HOW BASHERS WORK: how they are paid: (this was written by a basher) I know the following from a "friend" who needed extra money. I never answer a basher directly because I then become a basher's little money machine.
IGNORE THEM FOLKS...how bashers are paid: When you REPLY to bashers you give them an opportunity to earn 5-7 bucks. The service agreement they enter into with their employer states their messages will be monitored for content, profanity, lies, etc. but Money Manager's and the like don't have the time to check all their bashers messages. Only occasional spot checks are done. Those who manage the basher will generally read the headlines to see if a basher is replying to other posters by name. That tells them the basher isn't just "posting blindly" or repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay for those. A basher will attempt to milk three to five replies per post at one to two dollars each. This way the basher spreads negative influence to as many stockholders as possible. A basher will create this discussion thread because it takes less time reading more messages than is necessary. This ultimately allows the basher more time to post and make money. In general, NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER. Make them read all the posts and think up ways to enter the discussion.

NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE BASHER'S AID! Read the news ,do your own homework and make your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple of weeks. Due Diligence is key here. Know that there will be a time when the stock runs up which will be followed by the Bashers and those that missed the boat. The bashers will trash the stock by saying such things as "it's a Pump and Dump" and "the company is lying" and deceiving. There goal is to scare off newbies and potential new investors by "shaking" you out of your shares. Take the time to confirm your DD ,trust your own judgment and believe in yourself, pick your point of return or loss and live with it. Don't listen to hype or bashers trust your own judgment. Live by the rules you have created .

BASHER TESTIMONIAL and APOLOGY: found on Internet: 03/23/2000

"I would just like to confirm that it is true, there are companies that pay to have people post negatively on stock message boards. It is more in the area of $20-$25 per post for top performers though. How do I know? I was one. And I got bonuses when my company made exceptional gains. And it's 100% legal!

The fact is that there are so many green daytraders out there that look to these boards for advice and twice as many scammers that....well.....get the point?

My advice is to listen to people that rarely post but do sound intelligent (the ones that post negative stuff all the time are trying to manipulate the market and are probably paid to do it). And most importantly! Read News Releases! and research their impact on that stock.

More reading source: http://www.hedge-hog.com/bbs/pennystockmessages/17973.html

 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
Topic: No PR = ZERO Credibility...!! (Read 2508 times)
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Re: No PR = ZERO Credibility...!!
« Reply #45 on: Today at 1:32pm »
How's this for proof of some kind of a TA problem...??

From Ameritrade...
We recently received your request to have a certificate issued for the CMKM DIAMONDS INC currently held in your account. However, we are unable to process your request at this time. We have received notification that the shares are nontransferable. The transfer agent for this company is not currently printing certificates for this security.

If the security is no longer trading and you wish to remove the position from your account you may request to sell the entire position to Ameritrade for a sum totaling one dollar. A commission of no more than the current broker-assisted rate will be charged for the transaction. This transaction will generate a trade confirmation and will be irreversible.

To begin the processing, the "Request for Removal of a Non-marketable Security" form will need to be completed and signed by all account holders and received by Ameritrade. The form may be faxed to 816-243-3769, or mailed to Ameritrade at 1005 North Ameritrade Place, Bellevue, NE, 68005. You will find this form on the Ameritrade Web site under Miscellaneous Forms

I am also still waiting for a reply from Ameritrade about who the current TA is.

Tony.
http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&num=1089126981&action=display&start=45
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I thought I include some good reading instead of this nonsense:

PUMP & DUMP vs SHORT & DISTORT
Most traders have heard and read of the Pump & Dump scheme. But very little has been written about the other side of the trade or its opposite, which is the Short & Distort.

Lets take the Short & Distort scheme and apply it to the rules of Pump & Dump for stock manipulators.

In order to make these market manipulations work, the professionals assume:

(a) The Public is STUPID and
(b) The Public will mainly buy at the HIGH and
(c) The Public will sell at the LOW.

Therefore, as long as the market manipulator can run crowd control, he can be successful in his agenda of stock manipulation by controlling the market's greed and fear.

STAGES FOR THE DEADLY ART OF STOCK MANIPULATION
The Pump & Dump Scheme
Stage 1: The Acquisition of shares.
Please note: all sharp price movements, whether up or down, are the result of one or more, usually a group, professionals manipulating the share price.

(Loading): In stage I of a Pump & Dump scheme Manipulators after acquiring their shares leak information and pump the stock to get buyers silently. This leads to front loading also.

Stage 2: The Promotional Campaign!
Note: this is designed to spread a rumor/story and to play on the emotional greed of a pie in the sky find. It begins to spread across the financial world. Joe public rushes in not to miss the next gold rush.
(PUMP/Greed) Newsletter writers are hired -- either secretly or not -- to cheerlead a stock. PR firms are hired and let loose upon an unsuspecting public. Contracts to appear on radio talk shows are signed and implemented. An advertising campaign is rolled out (television ads, newspaper ads, card deck mailings, e-mails, etc.).

The company signs up to exhibit at "investment conferences" and "shows" (mainly so they can get a little "podium time" to hype their stock and tell you how "their company is really different" and "not a stock promotion.") Funny little "hype" messages are posted on Internet newsgroups. BTW the more, the merrier. 1000% returns are projected.

Stage 3: The infamous DUMP!
(DUMP) The once low volume that caused a bit of a spike suddenly changes to big volume. The stock manipulators sell out their positions into the new buying brought on by the promotion campaign.

Stage 4: The Silence or News Vacuum!
(Silence) No more news or insider leaks of information to pump the stock to get buyers. The front loading sells out. The silence plays on the emotional fear of being hoodwinked. Negative opinions begin to spread across the financial world. Joe public sells out to cut their losses. The really slick market manipulators would even seed the Internet news groups or other journalists to plant negative stories about that company. Or start a propaganda campaign of negative rumors on all available communication vessels.

Stage 5: The Distortion!
(Gone/Waiting/Shorting):

Stage 6: The Accumulation!
(Gone/Waiting/Buying): If the manipulator sees an opportunity the stock is on the floor and not part of the Short & Distort campaign they will begin buying back and slowly accumulating. As the Shorters were shorting the first manipulator was selling, so now it goes the other way. Buying to put pressure on the shorter to cover. Accumulation by new investors and averaging down of old investors are leads to the pressure on the short.

STAGES FOR THE DEADLY ART OF STOCK MANIPULATION
The Short & Distort Scheme

Stage I: Monitoring
In stage I of a Short & Distort scheme Short groups Monitor spikes in volumes on stocks with no rumors.

Stage 2: Flagging
Shorts Flag stocks that run up then sits back and wait patiently for their time.

Stage 3: Preparation
The Shorters research the company and develop their Distortion of the rumors to be used later.

Stage 4: Actual Shorting
The shorts step in selling on every possible up tick. This is the Reverse of front loading. Preparations are made to attack the guy who had earlier written positively about the company and take out, discredit, any new long-term champions or messengers.

Stage 5: Distortion Campaign
The shorts step in and increase selling on every possible up tick. Just as with the pump, newsletters, e-mail, PR firms against P & D, etc. are simulated. Expertise in the field is recruited for credibility. Any possible twist using POS (Purposely Omitted Syntax) and PAS (Purposely Added Syntax) is conveniently used on every possible angle. If the POS/PAS is discovered then attack the messenger. Above all control the message boards.

The group clutters the message boards so no positive information can be readily found. Justification is the Value of the Company in the market. Projections of $0.00 worth and loss projections of 100%

Note: The market manipulator will do everything in his/her power to keep buyers OUT OF THE STOCK. Cut your losses is touted to stimulate fear. You bought higher but now they need you to sell lower.

Stage 6: Pressure
The shorts have taken it too far. The volume is increasing and the price is not effectively dropping. A stalemate occurs. Personal attacks increase. Threats of legal action, SEC involvement, and yes even death threats increase. Increased secret IDs are employed to increase the cluttering, personal attacks and the distortion. So begins a string of lies that run for as long as one's stomach can take it. Desperately playing on the "you have been had" scenario. Any new news will be hit it hard by shorters to kill any interest.

Note: Watch the volume not the share price. A market manipulator will have various brokers buying and selling the stock to give the APPEARANCE of increasing volume but the price goes down. Thus stimulating the story the company is selling or an off shore reg S or other convenient scenario. Watch for large blocks that show up but have a MM special code, cross overs, etc.

Stage 7: The Cover
Without warning the buying pressure is too much and the short begins to cover. Short covering combined with new investors buying into the stock causes the stock to go up. Often the whole thing starts again. Just a vicious cycle sometimes.
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Note: Pump & Dump schemes I have seen are investigated by the SEC most of the time, however the Short & Distort scheme is not apparently high on the SEC's agenda. The shorts, unlike the dumper though, has an unlimited loss factor should the stock price go up.
Remember this is just our personal opinion. Check with a licensed financial professional on all matters of the stock market.

Credit for post to Ga Bard

Source: http://members.tripod.com/foolsgold77/pump.htm
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
called melvin today and i am done with him
« Thread started on: Today at 7:34pm »
called him and asked what the situation was with the T/A fiasco...he told me "apparently" he used this word to start....but the rest is paraphrased...apparently we picked up the papers from pacific and urban incorporated a new company of his own to do the job as the new T/A...i asked him if he has spoke to melvin about it and he said no....i asked him how are investors going to arrive at the truth if no PR is released...i mentioned to him that he said that if it isn't in a PR then don't believe so i asked him why their was no PR explaining the situation...he told me he had no idea and that i had a good point...i asked him about drilling...he said they are currently not drilling because they are waiting on permits...to sum it up...i get no info out of melvin he seems to me to be totally out of the loop...i would like other people to call him and and report back with their findings...he gives the quick short answers to your questions and doesn't ellaborate on anything...
http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1089160487
 
Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
Re: No PR = ZERO Credibility...!!
« Reply #15 on: Today at 10:52am »
I understand fully why is everyone so frustrated, it seems to me we're lacking leadership in a time when we REALLY need it. UC, Melvin (?), Roger ect....letting the MM's take over in a time when the company really need to work hard on effective communications through meatty PR's, enough with PR's about message boards and two PR's about the T/A that almost look identical (unless I missed something)...PR's are the communication vehicle of a company, and what I mean by communication, NOT telling me that you shut down the message board, we have reall problems that we need to address, O/S, A/S float, sample results etc....speaking of communication, have anybody heard UC speaking in public about the progress of our company, I think when a company faces issues like this, CEO's are all OVER the media boosting the morale of the shareholders, no offence to Melvin but I would like for UC to join Mevlin in Media apearences and so on.....
http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&num=1089126981&action=display&start=15
 
Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
Interesting reading:

Shorts on Message Boards
Do you even know how "shorts" work ? They bet that a stock will go down,just like you bet a stock will go up. Now a year ago when I asked broker friends of mine if the internet message boards will have any affect on a stock. They ALL laughed at me and said those idiots having an affect on a stock !
Well I asked those same friends this last week, and the answer from all YES! message boards and "shorts"(some) can manipulate with lies, and deceit. Let me tell you what I have seen on two different boards .

One stock was $8 and a "pack" of shorts come on and posted total lies about SEC violations,and "class action lawsuits".There was 15-20 of these manipulating "shorts". The stock went from $8 to $6 overnight without cause -just these manipulating "packs" posting total lies.

Another board I had seen about 15 months ago had a bunch of "regulars" on the board. Problem was these "regulars" were the nicest bunch of mostly elderly people you would want to know and talk with. The stock was about $18 and then came "the pack" of shorts. There were again 15-20 of them. They got the elderly so scared that they would not fight and just stopped posting. Thus leaving the board totally to these manipulating "shorts".

The stock went from $18 to $10 without reason just lies posted by these liars. Do you understand a little now? Let me say this to you and I want you and the whole board to think about this statement.

IT IS EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK.

Now think about that, you have elderly that invest and find their way to the message boards only to see false posts about "SEC Violations" and "Class action suits" or you have a Yuppie with a kid to put in college going to these message boards only to see posts by 15-20 (probably 5 or 6 under alias) "pack of shorts" posting the same false stuff about SEC Violations or lawsuits or "there's bad news coming out" ....what do you think they will do ?

Let me ask you people who don't like my attacking back ways, language etc... Do you think for that elderly person and that Yuppie with the college kid -that it would be easier to take the money out of the stock with these rumors and put the money back into the bank? Another question :do you think it is easier to take money out of the bank and invest it into stock....or easier to take the money out of the stock and put it back into a safe bank ?

It's easier to sell the stock and put the money into the bank for nervous people like the elderly and the Yuppie who needs college funds.

THAT'S WHO THE PACK OF SHORTS PRAY ON AND DEPEND ON.

They bet on a stock to go down-not up! . Understand? And they have just as much money and risk as you. But they have the edge of fear, lies, falsehoods to post and pray on the nervous. Longs don't have that.

Credit for post to skidiver3

Source: http://members.tripod.com/foolsgold77/shorts_messageboards.htm
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
MMs Comments

I was an OTC MM for about 10 years ending in the late 80's. Since then I have been strictly an investor. Since I have not been that up to date in MM rules I will only make statements that I feel fairly confident are still accurate regarding these activities. By and large most MM don't have a clue nor do they care to learn, about the fundamentals of the stocks they trade.

They just try to make orderly markets. When dealing with BB stocks it is very easy for a MM to get trapped into being short in dealing in a fast moving market. Reason being; most of the MM's in this stock are what are called "wholesalers" this means they don't have retail brokers "working" the stocks.

So they have to rely on what's known as the "call" from larger retail houses. If a "Big" retail firm like an E-trade calls up a market maker to purchase say 5,000 shares of a stock, they expect to get an "execution" from that market maker. If he turns them down, or only gives a partial then the "Big" firm will go to another MM.

If this second MM "fills the order" then that "Big" firm has a moral obligation to continue to give future "business" in that stock to that MM who performed (his life blood). This will go on until he "fails" to perform and so on.

Contrary to popular opinion the "Big" firms Do NOT neccessarily go to the "Low Offer" to fill a buy order (Or high bid for a sell). They "Go" to who they think will perform to fill the order and expect that MM to "match" the "low offer" in the case of a buy (bid in the case of a sell). Even though this MM might in fact be the "high bid" and not really want to sell any more.

As a wholesaler he must perform or he will get a reputation as a "non-performer" with the "Big" houses and will cease getting "calls" which means he will soon go out of business. I mentioned above that this activity is very significant to BB stocks. I say this because most of the trades in these BB stocks are "unsolicited" and are done through discount houses.

With the above groundwork laid, let me try to explain how market makers get short even if they like the Company; Lets say that a stock (shell) has been lying quietly at $.25 bid $.50 offered. A limit order comes into one of the MM's to Buy at $.50 for a thousand shares. Prior to this trade that MM may be "flat" (neither long or short any shares). He fills the order and is now short 1,000 shares. He may raise his bid hoping to find a seller to "flatten" out his position. But before he realizes it a wave of buyers have come in and cleared out all the $.50 offers. Now the stock is $.50 bid .75 offered. Here comes that "Big" firm he just sold the 1,000 shares to at .50 with another bid for 1000 at .75. He makes this print. Now he is short 2,000 at an average of .625. The market keeps moving and now its .75 bid 1.00 offered. Now he has to make a decision.

Just like investors, MM Hate to take a loss. So 9 times out of 10 he will now sell 2000 at 1.00 making him short 4000 but with an average .81. At this time he would love to see a seller at .75 so he can cover his short and make a few bucks.

But instead the market keeps moving up. Now it is 1.00 to 1.25 and here comes the buyer again at 1.25. He doesn't want to lose the call so now he needs to sell 4,000 at 1.25 to keep his break even point above the bid. Now he is short 8,000. Market moves up to 1.25 bid 1.50 offer here comes the buyer now he feels he must sell 8000 here because "stocks don't go up forever".

Now he is short 16,000. And so on and so on. If the stock keeps moving up, before he realizes it he could be short 50k or 100k shares (depending how big his bank is).

Finally the market closes for the day and on paper he may look all right in that his "break even" price may be around the closing price. But now he has to figure out how to entice sellers so he can cover this short. It is important to note that if this happened to one MM it has probably happened to most all of them.

Some ways MM's entice sellers; Run the stock up with a "tight spread" in a fast market, then "open" up the spread to slow down the buying interest. After it has "cooled off" for a little while lower the offer below the last trade right after a small piece trades on the offer then tighten the spread so that the sellers feel they can take a "quick profit" by "hitting the bid" on the tight spread.

Once the selling starts the MM's will walk it down quickly by only making small prints on the way down with the tight spread. Another way is by running the stock up in the morning, averaging up their short then use the above technique to walk it down in the afternoon.

Hopefully after doing this for several days, it will demoralize the buyers. The volume will dry up and the sellers will materialize thinking that the game is over.

Contrary to popular opinion, MM usually Do Not Cover in Fast moving markets either Up or Down if they are short. They Short More. They usually try to cover after the frenzy is out of the market. There are many other techniques they use but the above are the most popular.

This technique works about 9 times out of 10 particularly in a BB market. However that is because 9 out of 10 BB stocks are BS. Remember what I said above. Most MM's don't have a clue as to the value of a Company until they get trapped. If the Company has solid fundementals and a bright future. Then the stock will do very well. And the activity that caused the situation will prove to even help the future stock activity because it created an audience."

Copied from Raging Bull Board (Cardshark_1999)

Source: http://members.tripod.com/foolsgold77/mmcomments.htm
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
I know I am bumping this thread up, but I am filling with good reads and for good cause (educational):

Getting Started

1. Determine and set your investment goals: Are you a short, medium, or long term investor?

2. Determine how much money you are willing to lose: This may sound backwards because you are investing to make money not to lose money, but it is important to allocate your capital into controlled risk segments (High, Medium, Low). Depending on your investment goals, it is important that you predetermine how much capital you plan on using to invest in risky investments. In other words, don't invest your food money. Be smart and invest according to your means not your dreams.

3. Research which online brokerage you want to use and open an account: Look at what each online brokerage has to offer. All are unique and each offers something different. And remember, sometimes costs of trading are not the only factor. Look at the quality of customer service as the key factor as well as the speed of transactions.

4. Do your 'due diligence': Talk to Analysts, Management, and other investors. Read the company's quarterly and annual reports. Check the public fillings. Know what you are investing in. This is what separates an investor from a daytrader.

5. Ignore external noises such as bashers, hypsters, and sometimes the media: If you have done your 'due diligence' and you know what you are investing in, you will find that others may not agree with you or may agree with you all to well. Never invest with your emotions. Invest with facts.

6. Make your trade: Congratulations you are now an investor.

7. Set target sell and/or average down prices: It's important to set goals for your investments so you don't get emotional when your investment rockets up or drops down in value.

8. Keep to your targets: Never look back. If you sell and the investment goes up, don't punish yourself. If you buy and the investment goes down, don't punish yourself. If you did your due diligence and you made some money or will make some money in the near future, why worry? Only adjust your targets if new positive or negative circumstances arise which will obvious change the value of your investments.

9. Remember, fear and greed rule the market: Yes facts and figures are important, but emotions rule the investors mindset. The question is, will you let it rule your mindset?

10. Take the weekends off: Don't look at your portfolio or the markets on the weekends, it'll drive you crazy. You can't buy or sell on the weekends, so worrying about your portfolio when you should be relaxing will only make you nervous about your investments. Kick back and relax on the weekends!

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Monitoring Stock Message Boards

Scammers are usually new to the chat board. They usually sign up specifically to bash or hype that investment. Sometimes there will be a long time basher or hypster, but this is rare.
Scammers usually cross promote other investments. Bashers usually attack one investment and promote another one as being better or the real thing. Hypsters usually hype one investment and hype several others along with it to the board they are hyping on.
Scammers usually pretend to be someone or something they are not. They usually claim to be in the investment industry, a friend of someone in the company, or sometimes they gender switch.
Scammers appear to be strong. People listen to strong minded people and people who appear to be intelligent. Scammers try to portray themselves are strong people who are in the know.
Scammers usually encourage investors to call the company. After making bold statements, scammers will tell the investors on the chat board to call the company because investors will rarely call the company. Since no one actually verifies the statement made by the basher or hypster the statement is taken as the truth. And even if the statement is verified or disapproved by another poster, the board is still left confused because they cannot verify that that someone actually called. It becomes an endless circle of confusion.
Scammers rarely hype or bash a good stock. Solid blue chip stocks usually have few chat board posts. Scammers only go after stocks that are stagnant or moving relatively with stocks with true potential. Penny stocks (stocks less than $1) attract scammers.
Scammers usually use humour to get their points across. They usually post silly jokes about the company or post pictures which make fun of the company.
Scammers usually use events to bash or hype. They wait for something to happen within the company and twist the event to fit their bash or hype.
Scammers always bring up the same positive or negative news over and over again, even months after the initial news release.
Scammers post multiple times during the day. They comment on every post and answer every question. They try to control the board. Real investors are usually at busy with work, friends, or family, not posting on a chat board from dusk to dawn, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Scammers will outright lie. Most companies aren't perfect, but bashers will take a company's mistake and exaggerate it's cause and effect on the operations of the company. Hypsters will take a company's partnership or deals and make over aggressive predictions for the potential revenue for the company.
Scammers usually make statements which cannot be verified. Bashers usually claim to know "something" about the company or management. Hypsters usually make claims of a "big deal" coming soon.
Scammers usually play on investors lack of knowledge and laziness. People who read chat boards for information usually do so to pick up quick and easy due diligence research. Unfortunately, some investors begin to rely too much on the chat board's validity and stop doing their own research.
Scammers use emotions to their advantage. Fear and greed are the tools of a hypster and basher. Hypsters want you to buy so "you don't miss out on the big returns". Bashers want you to sell so "you don't loss all your money". Hypsters and bashers try to break down your pre-set investment objectives and goals by attacking your fear and greed elements.
Scammers work in groups. Bashers and hypsters usually have multiple aliases or associates who work towards a single objective. Sometimes they all follow the same line of thought. Sometimes they play "good cop, bad cop" and attack each other points in order to finally "prove" that one of the views are right.
Some scammers are actually paid to bash or hype. Investing is a serious business where returns can balloon with the right whisper. In some cases, bashers and hypsters are paid by those interested in the investment to further their goals. Beware of posters who seems to have nothing else to do but to post all day on a stock chat board.
When all else fails, a scammer will usually resort to personal attacks against the other posters. Personal attacks usually make the chat board messy and unappealing. For bashers, it usually drives away investors and gives them a bad impression of the company. For hypsters, it may drive away the real investor who likes to post both sides of the story (not bashing or hyping) in order to discuss the pros and cons of the investment. It may also turn intelligent investors into personal attackers themselves, making them look bad as well.

Source: http://theinvestorscentre.8m.com/special/guide.htm
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 

Good post Wiz
 
Posted by noahltl on :
 
Some of us need a reality check! I know sometimes I do!

Posted by Dr. Diamond on another board.

I believe it is quite obvious that many that have newly invested in CMKX have no idea what to expect from the PINK SHEETS world! I have been invested in this company since 2002. You think CMKX is an animal; well the Pinks are a different species altogether. So many investors are running around screaming for information and ranting about an injustice is being done to the investors and we deserve information. Many feel that CMKX is obligated to release information out to us and keep us completely informed on everything going on!

This is simply not true! Before I get started I want to state up front that I didn’t say I wouldn’t love to have a daily update on what is going on inside the company, I would love it, but as a Pink Sheet Company, legally CMKX has no OBLIGATION to release us information except out of their sheer desire to communicate to us! We need a reality check! If this was Nasdaq, AMEX, or the NYSE and we had invested many dollars per share then we are guaranteed that the cooperation will be there, the obligation to release information, and have financials and everything else completely open for review.

We have a limited crew working in Las Vegas and in Fort a la Corne and each has there responsibilities and mission they are trying to carry out. As others have mentioned we have to let them do what they need to do for their success is our success; and their discoveries are our discoveries; etc… When we remember that we have about 10 people working in Saskatchewan and very few in Nevada we begin to realize how busy these personnel really are.

We may not have an official PR but we have information coming in simply by being able to perceive what they are doing: in Canada (drilling, moving timber, sending samples, moving drill rigs, trying to cover our claims and options on more than 1.4 million acres of prime diamondiferous kimberlitic lands, etc…): and in Nevada (D. Roger Glenn is on board, audit is underway, share structure is being determined, financials are being cleared, and a new transfer agency filed by Urban on July 1, 2004, fighting off the securities problems generated by the MM’s, trying to implement Urbans plan to help us) AND WE WANT AND DEMAND INFORMATION TO FEEL BETTER?

We have to grow up. This is a PINK for God’s sake and right now we already have more than we ever bargained for. Call Melvin if you need more information. Do some more Due Diligence if you feel insecure about your investment. Get away from the board and get your mind off things by golfing, swimming, beach combing, going to turtle races, have a drink, or anything else it takes but come to the reality that you are now in the world of the Pinks and not on a market or an exchange!

I know we are counting on Urban as our leader and I have complete confidence in his abilities and his staff working with him. They are scrambling right now to regain their footing. Unless we have forgotten, we just sort of blew our last PR by having to remove our new T/A and Mr. Glenn nor Urban want to project to the world of the market that we can’t handle ourselves or are not in complete control. You could say that the next moves will be very careful, thought out, and secure for CMKX and everyone’s career that is involved. Every move CMKX takes puts reputation at risk for Urban and Mr. Glenn and they are not going to risk it until they have fully done their strategic planning and done their own DD and research for this next step.

None of us here wants anything but the absolute best for CMKX and our investment, but we need to realize the Pink World is full of sharks, coral reefs, and unexpected storms. We need to let the Captain keep his eyes and mind on getting us through this thing safely. Remember, either way this thing turns out, up or down, sink or swim, wherever he goes, we go. I don’t believe for a moment he is in this thing to lose.
I believe most investors do not realize that a Pink Sheet stock is not on an actual exchange or market. This is why regulations are so difficult to enforce.

A company like CMKX whose shares are traded on the so-called "pink sheets" is commonly one that does not meet the minimal criteria for capitalization and number of shareholders that are required by the NASDAQ and OTC and most exchanges to be listed there. The "pink sheet" designation is a holdover from the days when the quotes for these stocks were printed on pink paper. "Pink Sheet" stocks have both advantages and disadvantages.

Disadvantages:
1. The company is NOT REQUIRED to release any information about its financials or share structure.
2. All information coming from the company is purely voluntary and is as the company wills.
3. Many Pink Sheet stocks are thinly traded. Can make it tough (and expensive) to buy or sell shares.
4. The Bid/Ask spreads can tend to be pretty steep. So if you bought today the stock might have to go up 40-80% before you'd make money.
5. The active Market makers or brokerage firms that handle the stock may be limited. Much discussion has taken place in this group about the effect of a limited number of market makers on thinly traded stocks. (They are the ones who are really going to profit).
6. Can be very tough to follow. Very little coverage by analysts and news reports.
7. The majority of all Pinks never make it out of the Pinks.

Advantages:
1. Normally low priced. You can usually buy a million shares for little more than a hundred dollars. So the risk is high but what you are risking is very low so the if the upside comes it will be worth the sweat you have invested.
2. Many companies list in the "Pink Sheets" as a first step to getting listed on the National Market. This alone can result in some price appreciation, as it may attract buyers that were previously wary.
In other words, there are plenty of risks for the possible reward, but aren't there always?

We are doing well with this Pink Sheet stock we have invested in! The upside is incredible and the downside is minimal! Let’s stick to the ammunition that has been given to us and the ammunition we can locate from public information to fight off the mental demons that try to enrage us, create doubt, unbelief, and skepticism.

I know most of us are longs and we all have weak moments. But lets focus on the reality of our investment and what we have, instead of getting revved up over what isn’t happening and what we can’t get.

This is just my opinion and I appreciate everyone contributing to our effort. I have no rights to say what you can and cannot say or do, so I won’t. But, I do know what those emotions and feelings can produce in our lives as a whole and it isn’t what either you or I want.

Let’s have fun with this thing and quit putting pressure on it to perform as if it is going to save our lives. It can definitely make our lives better when it comes through, but not until it comes through and it isn’t going to save our life. There is One that has already done that and He is a good one to lean on if you need too!

I believe CMKX will come through, and we’ll marvel at these times, but it just isn’t time yet! As I post often on my threads, “I don’t believe this is the end, or even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning!”

Take Care and Success to All in CMKX!

For additional info on Pink Sheets see: http://www.pinksheets.com/investor/index.jsp

Dr.D

[This message has been edited by noahltl (edited July 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
noahltl you too! thanks

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'Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much.' - Helen Keller
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
From another board

By: stockseekerok
06 Jul 2004, 06:54 PM EDT
Msg. 36096 of 36167
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WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH CMKX READ AND SEE , GUYS I KNOW THIS IS LONG BUT JUST READ AND SKIP ALL THE SAFE HARBOR CRAP AND LOOK AT THE CONNECTIONS

(((BBX Equity Group in Association With (Mirage Properties,) (Trump Development,) (Don King Productions )and( Niko Santucci))

(((NOTICE ALL THE BIG NAMES ABOVE-ssok))

(The other below is non issue so scan to the next)


Plans to Develop the 5000 Unit World Class "Flags of All Nations" Condominium Development
Wednesday June 23, 9:00 am ET

LAS VEGAS, NV--(MARKET WIRE)--Jun 23, 2004 -- Mr. Gary W. Walters, Managing General Partner and majority stockholder of BBX Equity Group, in conjunction with his partners Mirage Properties, Trump Development, Don King Productions and Niko Santucci are pleased to offer $80,000 to all current listed voting members with a non-assignable opportunity to profit from golfing membership and become part of our exciting real estate development opportunity within the Country Club golfing community grounds of the Las Vegas Country Club.

ADVERTISEMENT

Our offer will allow current members the ability to play golf for free for 3 years upon completion of our magnificent 5,000 units "Flags of All Nations" development. Once a sufficient number of votes has been secured allowing for construction permits to be issued and construction to be completed the developer BBX Equities will cause to be paid $80,000 for each membership obtained.

BBX Equities Group, Inc. along with Scott A. Ervin, the projects Managing Director and exclusive Nevada and New York real estate broker, will bring this exciting development to occupancy. BBX Equity proposes to develop up to 5000 world-class corporate condominiums. Our design concept with the skillful guidance of Mr. Harry Campbell of HCA Associates will reflect the spirit of our community and the Nation, while projecting our vision of a futuristic Las Vegas from a pair of arches crossing at the apex to form the foundation of a living community that is energy efficient and fun to look at while also sporting a 19th hole multi story restaurant with many additional exciting amenities, all tailored for the world class occupants expected to own parts of this property in the sky. Rarely in life does an opportunity surface where in addition to your ability to play golf and collect $80,000 does one also get to observe with excitement our development.

(((REMEMBER I HAVE BEEN SAYING BBX EQUITY GROUP FOR A LONG TIME NOW , AND ALSO THAT I THOUGHT URBAN HAD CONNECTIONS IN VEGAS TO SOME CASINO( Now comes to light as possibly the MIRAGE))))


By: stockseekerok
10 May 2004, 01:02 PM EDT
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i found that a group called BBX equity funded Barrington foods in 2003
barrington foods is now UCAD
BBX Equity Group is located in Las Vegas

ucad became a mining comp shortly before we started drilling
ucad joined cmkx in canadian deal
ucad is co-sposor of funny car
ucad had links to funny car on their website
ucad is also offering cmkx memorabilia
ucad is agressively finding new minig companies for purchase
BBX funding must still be in place
Rick Walker, company president of Shane Resources (SEI.H) CDNX, Consolidated Pine Channel (KPG) CDNX, and United Carina Resources (UCA) CDNX, to share the cost on this major airborne survey.
Makes them actually 50 % owners in claims
if what i think is right cmkx still owns 50% of everything
i think we own big portion of ucad or all of it, makes for 50 %
see the team could only be a 2 part instead of 4
Because we own Ucad

Just some thoughts do your DD to check this theory

SSok


(((and then the old Profile from Canada stating UC went to the united states for money)))

CANADIAN PROFILE ON CMKX FEBUARY 2004
http://www.canadianminingnews.com/dailyreckoning.htm

Current Price: $0.0001
Estimated Outstanding Shares: 37,000,000,000


Casavant Mining Kimberlite International (CMKM.PK)

Saturday, February 21, 2004
Diamond driller targets Weirdale
BARRY GLASS/Daily Herald

A small company has made big plans for diamond exploration work in the Prince Albert region this year. Casavant Mining Kimberlite International (CMKM.PK) recently announced it purchased its own drill rig and received financing to get started.

The company holds mineral claims to more than 1.4 million acres in the province in an area stretching from north of Candle Lake down to St. Louis.

“We anticipate to start drilling up by Weirdale,” said company president Urban Casavant.Weirdale is 58 kilometres northeast of Prince Albert and close to the Fort à la Corne claims of other companies drilling for diamonds.

Casavant Mining’s drilling program should begin within a month or so. “It’s going to be an aggressive program,” said Casavant. “We figure if we have no problems we can drill a hole a week.”

He wants to drill several properties over the next two years at a cost of about $10 million. The company announced Friday a longtime individual investor in the company has put in $1.8 million US with a pledge of another $3.2 million US upon completion of a feasibility study and core sampling results. Casavant Mining is a Las Vegas-based company publicly traded in the over-the-counter securities markets.

((I KNEW THEY WENT TO LAS VEGAS FOR THE MONEY))

(Being located in the United States gives the company access to the money needed for its planned drilling, said the president.)

He said once people know how much work is involved in diamond exploration; they understand what it takes to get a mine into production. “It takes money and money and money and a little bit of luck,” he said.

The company also has interests in property near Green Lake, 180 kilometres northwest of Prince Albert. Casavant Mining will use an outside contractor for drilling in that area so its own rig can stay in the Fort à la Corne region. Casavant said he’s happy to be at this stage. “I’ve been at this prospecting and claiming land for about 15 years now,” said the self-taught prospector. “So I’ve been chasing this for a long time, and it’s finally all going to come together.”

The company is involved with many other companies in joint ventures in the area, he said, adding it also hopes to do aerial survey work in the near future.

About Casavant Mining Kimberlite International

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Inc (CMKM.PK). is a new company involved in the exploration for diamonds in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan.

Exploration is being aggressively pursued within the Fort á la Corne area in central Saskatchewan, where the company holds mineral claims to more than 1.4 million acres.

WHY DIAMONDS IN SASKATCHEWAN ?

1) One of the largest known kimberlite clusters in the world.

2) De Beers (The largest Diamond Company in the World) in joint ventures with Kensington Resources and Shore Gold; are actively mining for Diamonds in Fort a la Corne and there has been a recent discovery of a 10 carat plus diamond. At 10.23 carats, the stone is by far the biggest to ever come out of the prairie belt project, officially kicking of the mad diamond rush.

3) 130 of the 2000 kimberlite pipes known worldwide are macro-diamond bearing. 23 of these are located in the Fort a la Corne district of Saskatchewan.

4) 80% of Saskatchewans' kimberlite pipes are diamondiferous.

5) 50% contain diamonds over one millimeter in size.

6) A high percentage of diamonds recovered are clear, inclusion-free and exhibit good crystal form.

7) Pipes said to have erupted under inland sea and therefore have not been exposed to weathering or glaciation.

8) Pipes lie within 300 feet of surface.

9) Area accessible by paved all-weather road, with water and power readily available.

10) Studies indicate cash operating costs of $10.50 per tonne, including overburden removal.

11) Saskatchewan government encourages mining in the province.


For the Latest Press Releases please visit: http://www.casavantmining.com/news.html


Investment Opportunity:

Casavant Mining (CMKM.OB) was created last year through the transformation of Cyber Mark International, and it has been quite colorful since it took up the pursuit of diamonds. The company is listed on the mighty pinks in the United States, and at last report there were billions of shares outstanding. As a result, the stock is a trader's dream with a share price that has been lingering near one-100ths of a U.S. cent, but which occasionally has spiked upwards, offering the enticement of a quick triple, or better. Casavant Mining has been retiring billions of its outstanding shares of late -- more than 13 billion at last count. Some of the Casavant claims are within 10 kilometres of Shore Gold's Star kimberlite and Kensington's No. 141 pipe, both to the west and east.

As well, some of the claims are within five kilometres to the west of Kensington's No. 150 and No. 122 pipes, which apparently remain priority pipes for the joint venture, and other claims appear to lie within the northwesterly trending lines of kimberlite finds in the region. As a result, a drill program on the Casavant ground could stir up some speculative notice, especially if Shore and Kensington can come up with toutable results from their key projects in the coming months. If or when CMKM hits pay dirt and finds Diamonds wont you be glad you own a few million shares?

Guys there are som Mighty powerful names in that very first line on top. Tons of money , I Knew BBX Equity would show up for me sooner or later , and the casino chips urban gives away I now Know why they are usable at the casinos In Kansas City

JMHO

SSok


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Just keep posting folks. Nice to keep this thread on top.

I see JB still has the big mouth open for more Pigeon works. Problem is it just keeps spewing back out! What part of Long Island is JB from? Never mind, it has to be where they put all the horsesh*t and other trash. Bet JB is in the bottom of the class even in a college (if that is what they call it) such as CUNY.

Now we have justplayin again. That pumper had 4 posts on osubucks30's topic about GET OUT of CMKX. And now on this thread too?
The rest of you pumpers I will ignore.

Talk to all you nice folks later.
 


Posted by noahltl on :
 
From Diamond Hunter


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this is probably so simple but...
« Thread started on: Today at 8:49pm »

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I thought I would say it anyway.

Let me give a simplistic analogy:

If you walked out in your backyard and found an oil well, would you go out and knock on every neighbor's door, call up the local news media and get the press all over it? What would you do?

I would get a great legal counsel, get my plan ready, and at precisely the right timing, make the announcement to the public.

IMO, this is exactly what is happening right now. UC knew about all the crazy games going on with the stock while at the same time he knew the chances were great he would find loads of diamonds. Thus comes in Mr. Glenn.

Everytime I have doubts that this CMKX movie plot if you will at times, is too good to be true, I always come back to that thought - Why would Mr. Glenn come on board if there wasn't a huge potential involved here (either from a legal standpoint, the mother load of diamond mines, or both). That is the million dollar question.

I am long and will wait as long as it takes for the "Casavant brand" to take off

Any other opinions?

CMKX is the most exciting story of a stock I have ever seen!



 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 

Wallace you OLD dog you. Didn't you claim to be trading since the 1960s? If so that would make you, if you started at 18, somewhere around 52ish. Let's say 50. You are now trying to mock a twenty three year old college student yet you claim to be how old Wallace? For someone who worked on Wall Street and claims to have so much money, I find it odd that you are here, trying to start things like a little woman. I mean seriously, you expect people to give you credit when you are attacking me because I go to college? I live in Nassau and if you ever want to come and find me I will gladly meet up with you, WHERE EVER IN LONG ISLAND YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET... I ain't afraid of some ol' man like you.

Now again, I go to college, where did you go? If John Jay is so bad why then does the FBI recruit as well as the Department of Defense and many other government agencies? How come John Jay is getting a 500+ Million expansion project with a state of the art Forensic Science Lab plus offices for all major State/City and Federal agencies? Yes attack my school you feeble minded fool. If you are as old as you say you are I laugh at you since your days are dwindling my friend... Think about this when you go to bed tonight.

Muwahhhh hugs and kisses Wallace

-John


 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
JB

I imagine there are places on LI for people like you...and for sure in NYC. Keep your hugs and kisses for those you pursue in those places. On second thought, from what I have heard you may not have to go that far.
I hear CUNY is a hotbed for your kind.
 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
If you ever visit New York be sure to tell me. I will make a special visit just for you

Again Wallace you old be-atch.... How's your wife looking these days? Pharm will have to give her ass some Botox injections.

I'm not gay but in your case I am willing to anally violate you like an eighteen year old catholic school girl...

Again I am not gay but for you I'd be gay for five minutes haha...

You know they teach you a lot about prison at John Jay. Something that many people don't realize that in prison, be it state or federal, most guys are only 'gay' for the duration of the jail time. This is espically true in the case with big black dudes and little white guys like yourself.

Keep up this fraudulant life style and you will discover that in jail there are two options:

1. You take it.
2. You give it.

Again in your case I will gladly 'take one for the Allstocks team' and pull number two...

again gugs and kisses, b i t c h

-John
 


Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Again, thank you for keeping this topic "CONFIRMED CMKX is a scam" right on top for all to see.
 
Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
Wow my commons sense and DD has brought the price down to .0004


 


Posted by JBCak47 on :
 
Rectalturd managed to pass this outof some hole: "Wow my commons sense and DD has brought the price down to .0004 "

So you admit you want the price to go DOWN. Very interesting... WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANT IT TO DROP???

Slim Shady's in the house...

-John
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Rectalturd managed to pass this outof some hole: "Wow my commons sense and DD has brought the price down to .0004 "

So you admit you want the price to go DOWN. Very interesting... WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANT IT TO DROP???

Slim Shady's in the house...


-John


Yes I am godlike unlike you, you message board troll bahahah aahah

[This message has been edited by rchaud98 (edited July 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Rectalturd managed to pass this outof some hole: "Wow my commons sense and DD has brought the price down to .0004 "

So you admit you want the price to go DOWN. Very interesting... WHY WOULD SOMEONE WANT IT TO DROP???

Slim Shady's in the house...

-John


Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah


PPS = .0004 the market has SPOKEN!!!!


in the words of zen: the market IS
 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rchaud98:
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

rchaud98 you definitely can express yourself on this thread, how old are you? It will be interesting to know how one at what age can behave. lol



 


Posted by TradingWizard on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rchaud98:
Wow my commons sense and DD has brought the price down to .0004

You proud of your common sense, you got to be kidding. Are you calling blah blah a common sense. I don't think so.


 


Posted by rchaud98 on :
 
The Bottom Line on T/A and O/S
« Thread started on: Today at 11:28pm »
I will keep this short and sweet. I have read many posts today from many different boards. I have read the twists from the bashers and I have read the twists from the pumpers. The 400 billion O/S may be speculation at this point until confirmed or denied by the company in a public PR but the company becoming its own T/A is not speculation, it is a fact confirmed by a state government document and posted all over the web for the world to see. The recent development is not in line with recent announcements

The bottom line here is that there is NO EXCUSE at all for the company not informing its investors about the recent developments that have happened. It has almost been a week now since all this started and there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for it.
« Last Edit: Today at 11:30pm by MGDTime »

http://cmkx.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1089174527

LOL the hardcore longs are crumbling!!!


PPS = .0004 the market has SPOKEN!!!!
in the words of zen: the market IS


 




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