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You two wanna get a room?
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Copied post from raging bull
Alyssa http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=377894

Just received email:

July 13, 2004

The Stock Play of a Lifetime?

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. [ CMKX ]

The Green Baron is making a strong "Watch" recommendation on CMKX. We are not recommending our members buy CMKX at this time, although that may change in the near future. We are only suggesting our members place CMKX on their radar screens for a possible breakout in the days and weeks ahead.

CMKX is one of the most heavily traded stocks on Wall Street right now, averaging several "billion" in volume each day. It is one the most traded and most followed stocks we have ever encountered. There are also several market rumors from what we consider reliable sources, who are indicating there may be a huge run up on the share price in the days and weeks ahead.

Evergreen Marketing, Inc. [parent company of The Green Baron] will be flying a senior executive to Denver, Colorado this week on a fact finding mission to meet with the CEO of CMKM Diamonds. Evergreen Marketing has also offered CMKM Diamonds a Green Baron CEO Webcast. We will notify our members immediately if or when a CEO Webcast for CMKM has been scheduled. All CEO Webcasts are posted on our website www.TheGreenBaron.com

At our meeting in Denver with the CMKX CEO, as well as other sources, we will do our best to confirm share structure and diamond finds/yields. One "rumor" of particular interest involves an approximate 50 cent per share tender offer or dividend currently in the works. The current share price is .0003. Now you see why this could possibly be "The Stock Play of a Lifetime."

It is still early in the game but things could change rapidly. We urge our members to watch CMKX closely over the coming days for any indication the rumors are true and about to come to fruition. One such positive indicator would be the Market Maker JEFF leaving the offer, which we anticipate would happen by the end of the week. If even 1/2 the rumors we are trying to confirm are true, CMKX may indeed prove to be the stock play of a lifetime as well as possibly helping rebound the penny market after its 3 year slump. The financial windfall the hordes of CMKX shareholders would reap from a run up on this stock would no doubt have a positive "ripple effect" across the penny stock sector.

We will do our best to uncover as much Due Diligence on CMKX as fast as possible and alert our members immediately if and when we confirm our information. In the mean time, watch CMKX closely and stay tuned for CMKX updates in our Green Baron mailings and on our website www.TheGreenBaron.com



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Another "just got off the phone with Melvin post from another board. Take it for what it's worth:

Just got off the phone with Melvin...

My first time talking to him. He seems like an up front kind of guy and answered the questions I had that he could answer and simply said he had no idea on those he couldn't. He did tell me that drilling will begin again soon.

He stated that the TA merry-go-round was certainly a fiasco and one that shouldn't have happened. He stated that Urban got ticked off at Pacific because they said stuff they shouldn't have (obviously the OS numbers, which by the way is not the number of shares released but the number of shares shown as being sold thru the MMs), so he fired them. He then tried to set up his own transfer company in a pinch but he wasn't able to work that out in time so he renegotiated with 1st Global.

Melvin also said that share structure would not be announced until CMKX is in a position to move to a new board and that all issues of outstanding shares, any naked shorting issues etc would be released at that time and not before.

The audit is indeed done and while Melvin could not answer directly, I got the jist that the main reason the OS has not been released is that Urbie doesn't want to tip his hand to the MMs. He could not comment on and had no idea about where the tens of billions of shares that JEFF is selling are coming from of if indeed they are real shares or naked shares.

Melvin also stated that there will probably be a PR out this week and that it would probably make me happy but his tone did not indicated that it would be something I would be ecstatic about.

Finally, Melvin plainly stated that the reason the share price is so low is purely because of the MMs and he had no idea where they were getting all the shares they have been selling.

Overall, I feel somewhat better than I did before. I still am worried about my investment tho and will be until the OS issue is resolved. Melvin said he understood that and would feel the same way if it were not for what he is seeing taking place up there.




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LOL, get a room. How they disrespect you, Upside. I love ya, buddy.
BTW, this thing is gonna trade between .0002 -.0004 until some a PR with substance is released. Makes no difference how complicated the theories get. Who's shorted what, dividned or not, blah, blah, blah, makes no difference.

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so much for genius:

"He stated that the TA merry-go-round was certainly a fiasco and one that shouldn't have happened. He stated that Urban got ticked off at Pacific because they said stuff they shouldn't have (obviously the OS numbers, which by the way is not the number of shares released but the number of shares shown as being sold thru the MMs), so he fired them. He then tried to set up his own transfer company in a pinch but he wasn't able to work that out in time so he renegotiated with 1st Global."

No well thought out, plan, agenda there, like some alluded to, just plane old stupidity and lack of planning. Maybe Urban was doing this, thinking that, people wrote. Now we found out he wasn't thinking at all.


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Will, I agree with you. Not much that speculation will do with the stock price until the facts get released.
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Do you buy again at .0003 or hope it falls more? That is the question. I you wait you might miss out, if you buy now and it plummets you lose 2/3 of your investment, if you wait and can buy at .0002 or .0001 you get many more and if it goes to a dollar it means millions.

How do you play it?


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Any reasonable person would have to agree.
The unfortunate thing is the positive spin that is being put on the obvious errors in judgement as being part of a "master plan", then to find out there wasn't any plan, just mistakes after mistakes.
These guys would do better saying nothing until they had something substantial and could report it COMPLETE, ACCURATE, HONEST, STRAIGHT FORWARD, FORTHRIGHT, and WITHOUT AMBIGUITIES. There is no thinking outside the box, there is no genius, there is no grand plan unfolding, just the constant wiping of egg off of managemt's faces.
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Will, I agree with you. Not much that speculation will do with the stock price until the facts get released.


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quote:
Originally posted by RaiderJR:
Do you buy again at .0003 or hope it falls more? That is the question. I you wait you might miss out, if you buy now and it plummets you lose 2/3 of your investment, if you wait and can buy at .0002 or .0001 you get many more and if it goes to a dollar it means millions.

How do you play it?


I think most longs are playing it without regards to it going down to .0002 or .0001. Meaning, I think it just doesn't matter to most people if it goes down any further. They buy now if they really want to believe in it because they believe it will go up to .01 or .10 or (if you're real good boys and girls) to 1.00.

They potential short term loss (2/3 as you stated) just isn't a factor for many of us that believe it will go up. How far up is always my biggest issue though. I believe we will all make money here and I'd love to see it hit 1.00 but my imagination runs too wild when I start thinking like that.

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originally posted by RaiderJR:
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Do you buy again at .0003 or hope it falls more? That is the question. I you wait you might miss out, if you buy now and it plummets you lose 2/3 of your investment, if you wait and can buy at .0002 or .0001 you get many more and if it goes to a dollar it means millions.
How do you play it?

Raider,
Your question seems to be rhetorical but if I may be so bold, you seem to be solidly in the camp that this stock is going places. You mentioned a dollar per share. From my own point of view, if I believed this to be the case I would be buying every share I could lay my hands on at these levels. 300 dollars today buys you a million shares, granted if you can get them at .0001 you get 3 million but come on, either way you're talking about serious life changing returns. If you really were looking for advice based on your assumptions of this stock, I would say buy like a madman at any level up to a dime.


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With every day that passes and we don't get a PR, or someone claiming they spoke with Melvin about volcanoes erupting, or meeting with Urban and Urban telling them that there's a trillion carats worth of diamonds under our land, I feel a little bit safer and a little more optimistic about my shares here. Seems as though they have shut themselves up so as not to bring any more bad attention to the management team. I am pretty happy with waiting patiently, and having the company line everything up before they release any more information. Are you all accumulating still? I really doubt it will see .0001 and I doubt that any of us will get any buy orders executed at .0002 unless they keep quiet for another 2 weeks...then that .0002 could be near.
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RaiderJR -I have been buying some every day since we are not sure when a PR will be out and the price is so manipulated it could go up or down on a whim. I am going to continue to buy as long as they are selling but I will not be paying over .0003 for anymore shares. If the price hits .0002 I will buy more. IF it hits .0001 I will wire money and get as many as I can afford. If that poster was right and did speak with Melvin it sounds like he gave the impression the share structure PR will not be released before the filing and switch to another exchange. That doesn't surprise me. That could happen quickly or not. IMO-Debi

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I am going to post a response to a letter I sent the SEC about naked shorting and CMKX along with a copy of the online form I filled out minus identifying info.
GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi

Dear Ms. #######:

Thank you for contacting the SEC.

The Commission is aware of investor concerns about naked short selling, and has taken action in this area. For example, the Commission has brought prior enforcement actions against parties engaging in naked short selling as part of a manipulative scheme. In addition, as you are probably aware, on October 22, 2003 the Commission proposed new Regulation SHO. Proposed Regulation SHO addresses all aspects of short sale regulation, including proposing new Commission rules to restrict abusive naked short selling. If you have not already done so, I encourage you to review the proposing release on our website (www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/34-48709.htm).

[1[ See, e.g., Rhino Advisors, Inc. and Thomas Badian: Lit. Rel. No. 18003 (February 27, 2003); See also SEC v. Rhino Advisors, Inc. and Thomas Badian, Civ. Action No. 03 civ 1310 (RO) (Southern District of New York).

We cannot tell you whether or not we will-or have already begun to-look into the issues raised in your e-mail. This is because the Securities and Exchange Commission conducts its investigations on a confidential basis. We also cannot provide you with updates on the status of your complaint. We know this policy can be frustrating, but it protects the integrity of our investigative process and preserves the privacy of the individuals and entities involved.

Leslie M. Garner

Attorney

Office of Investor Education and Assistance

U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission


-----Original Message-----

From: nobody@sec.gov [mailto:nobody@sec.gov]

Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 2:25 PM

To: enforcement@sec.gov

Subject: enforcement complaint

ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT FORM

7-9-2004 14:25:3

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Information About You:

Name: Deb ######

Email: d#######@###.com

Address: ## ###### Street

Phone: ### ### ####

Information About the Complaint

Type: OTC and Pink Sheet

Entity Name:

Names, Addresses, Telephone number etc:

DTCC, SEC, Market Makers, Brokerage Firms, offshore customers.

How you learned about the transaction or other activity:

The Naked Shorting in this market is rampant. My accounts have lost a lot of their value. It is not because I am investing in fraudulent companies or have not done DD. I can watch the selling pressure in just about every stock. It is ridiculous. The golden goose is getting killed. These criminals in suits need to go to jail.

Who contacted you:

Sales material in your possession:

Details about the transaction:

The DTCC is allowed to make electronic copies of shares to make the task of trading easier. MMs are supposed to see if shares are available to borrow or they have the reasonable expectation to be able to deliver the securities. Delivery is not required and many of these OTC companies are being hit so hard with electronic shares that have no tie to supply and demand. It is impossible to trade these stocks profitably at this point. They dont go up on good news, or they spike and tank so fast they are not worth buying. This is hurting the businesses, the investor and ultimately no one will trade in these markets. It is corrupt to the core and must be addressed. I am so sick of it. Before April I was able to trade and make money now I see all my hard work being a waste of time when MMs can set prices that have no relation to the true value of the company.

If on the Internet, all relevant Internet addresses:

Any additional information:

How about CMKX for instance. Billions sold daily, buying outnumbering selling and the price goes down. I am hoping this one will actually be the one to stick it to the MMs. The naked short position is rumored to be one trillion shares. TSBB good news and still tanking. Find any 10 companies and my guess is 8 or them are naked shorted. Please close the loop hole that allows duplicate shares to not be tied to actual certificates. This actually crosses the line to counterfeiting for fraudulent purposes and appears to be sanctioned by you the SEC. Thanks-

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THAT A GIRL DEB!!
GIVE THEM BOTH BARRELS!!

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Noah,
That Melvin post,
Was there a name or anything assocated with
that post? Or what board it came from maybe.
I like to see little details with posts like that.
Thanks.

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Upside -I had read the post on naked shorting and cellar boxing previously. Cellar boxing looks exactly like the predicament that CMKX found themselves in. They did the dividend spin off, the name change and now they are rumored to have bought back most of the OS. What is your take on this? Do you think they might have done this? Do you think if they did it is brilliant and should succeed? You probably know that I think CMKX has done precisely that. I also think the bravado that JEFF displays every day parked on .0003 is like whistling in the dark. I have put my money where my mouth is and if they allow this to move without news I may try for a free share position if it won't cost me too many shares. I would like to end up with at least 20 million shares at little or no cost. I still consider this stock to be very high risk and am aware I could lose my entire investment. But I feel more strongly that it will turn out very well.
GLTY-IMO-DD-Debi

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Debi,
I have to admit that they do fit the profile and the hiring of Mr. Glenn could be a measure to combat it. Again, it's all speculation at this point and while the "cellar boxed" theory could be true, so could the scam theory. If you are in or close to a position where you can still have a sizeable holding of free shares, I would do it. Wouldn't it be comfortable knowing that even if the worst happened you would have lost nothing and if the best happens, you're still rich?

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Upside, I agree that anyone who can get a free share position in this will be very fortunate. If this is allowed to run before we get news and at some point it will if news is delayed -I will sell some shares to get free shares. I only had 4 1/2 million at .0001 and 3.65 at .0002 and now have a lot at .0003. But I paid up to .0011 for my shares. I would rather be in than out; but if I can reduce my risk I want to. Meanwhile I am accumulating at these lower prices so I can reduce my average price and will have shares to sell on the way up yet still keep my 20-25 million shares long. The more the merrier. IMO-Debi
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quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
Upside, I agree that anyone who can get a free share position in this will be very fortunate. If this is allowed to run before we get news and at some point it will if news is delayed -I will sell some shares to get free shares. I only had 4 1/2 million at .0001 and 3.65 at .0002 and now have a lot at .0003. But I paid up to .0011 for my shares. I would rather be in than out; but if I can reduce my risk I want to. Meanwhile I am accumulating at these lower prices so I can reduce my average price and will have shares to sell on the way up yet still keep my 20-25 million shares long. The more the merrier. IMO-Debi

Debi, how are your commission fees? You seem to buy CMKX on the regular basis. I will be afraid to do that with my $29 commission fee from waterhouse.

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TW wrote: Debi, how are your commission fees? You seem to buy CMKX on the regular basis. I will be afraid to do that with my $29 commission fee from waterhouse.


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Youch- I hope they kiss you first-just kidding. I use Freetrade and it costs about $1 a trade for frequent traders. The first 20 trades a month are free and the next ones cost between $1-3. Three dollars is the maximum. So I will pick up 1/2 Million shares anytime in that account. I also use Etrade for $9.99. I have Scottrade but they don't sell CMKX and I don't like them for penny stocks they charge $12 for OTC plus a % and Pinks need to be called in for $22 plus a %. Freetrade makes it easy to get in and out of a trade without having the fee make an OK trade bad and a bad trade worse. I trade some of my sister's and nieces accounts at different brokerages and there are some that it just isn't worth using. $29 isn't good but if they don't add a % on top of it, it is OK. Harris Direct-my goodness I posted some trades for pennies where getting out is a commission of over $100 for what I pay $1 for. I keep telling my sister to transfer to Ameritrade or Etrade. I haven't used low trades but heard they are good. I use Mytradz for some of my nieces and it is OK but they limited the number of CMKX shares per trade to 250,000 some of the time.
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The down side of Freetrade is I don't like the screens and record keeping there so for some trades I prefer Etrade. I can track the price I paid easier and it is also very easy to make online deposits. Customer service has been good too. The good side is I can buy a four thousand shares of a stock that sells for .02 and make a profit. If it tanks my maximum loss is just a little more than your commission. The way the market is right now that is how brave I feel on some stocks. IMO-GLTY-Debi


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Thanks Debi for the info and that's explains all your buying tasks. I may consider in the future. I don't do much penny trading, except when I found out about CMKX back in March or April and got in at 0.0001, and then ended up buying few more other stocks (loosing some money). I have most of my money in the large caps, so the $29 commission did not look so bad, but if you trade pennies it definitely does help to have $1 per trade. The nice thing about the Waterhouse is that it is connected to TDTrust where all my funds are, so the fund transfer can be done in matter of minutes. I say minutes because I love playing with the currency exchange to get the good rate from Cnd to US - whatever it takes to make money.
Oh well, thanks for the info Debi. TW

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I still have a gut feeling that attrny. isn't working with/for them anymore. These half wit moves w/ the TA and then producing thier own TA Co... I knew it!! I knew that they didn't have a clue what they were doing, thats why they went back to the old TA. That was only obivious. These events would not be happening if they had this so called high hat of an attrny. They are scrambling to get thier poop together and it seems they are doing it without counsel of any kind. Kinda like three blind mice...
Again, it was obvious with the last 2 pr's that were about the "going back to old TA".
Any information as to what may be hanging up this "becoming fully reporting" should in some way be related to us. As to these lil' leaks here and there some do sound like they did talk to Melvin, because the man hasn't anything to really say. And when he does speak it is not very thought out, lacks in intelligence and greatly in business relations. Since they seem to not have the time to finish the web site, put out intelligent business PR's, maybe design a prospectus. They should hire someone. (ME!) lol They really do need to hire someone to handle those affairs, image is very important.
Building a strong back bone with regular communication, truth, and progress no matter how insignificant (just don't let Melbaby post it) Would generate so many more to buy stocks it would go down in history.
Come on CMKX let's get movin'!!

All for 1 and millions for all!


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quote:
Originally posted by darrenbaker:
Noah,
That Melvin post,
Was there a name or anything assocated with
that post? Or what board it came from maybe.
I like to see little details with posts like that.
Thanks.


http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=377739


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Does anyone else find it disturbing that their website while supposedly under construction hasn't been touched since at least June 24th? Same thing with the funny car site. It is also under construction and still advertising the upcoming race for June 25th - 27th. Almost like no one's around anymore.
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OK Sit Down Everyone, Heres something to have alittle fun with, we need this right about now.
Heres the scoop!!!!!
DeBeers wants all the mineral rights in Saskatchewan, they know whats there and I would guess the total value of FALC is 120 to 140 Billion.
By the time all is played out every major shareholder of CMKX will be driving Jags or BMWs.
JMO

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Thanks noahltl
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by tradingpennys:
I still have a gut feeling that attrny. isn't working with/for them anymore. QUOTE]


Wouldn't be in Roger's (and their firm for that matter) best interest to come out with a statement regarding not representing CMKX anymore if in fact that was the case. Given the fact that it was made public that they were representing them.

Hmm, now that I'm thinking about it while I'm typing, maybe not. If CMKX originally released the press release (not E&A) then perhaps Roger couldn't say anything under attorney/client privilege.

I'm counting on Roger still being in this thing but I can understand your speculation.

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C'mon UpMan, they have bigger fish to fry. They're in a battle to the death with the MM's, they're fixing to go to the big board, they're gonna be drilling around the clock in hundreds of target sites, they're developing a master-master plan, who has time for websites?
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Does anyone else find it disturbing that their website while supposedly under construction hasn't been touched since at least June 24th? Same thing with the funny car site. It is also under construction and still advertising the upcoming race for June 25th - 27th. Almost like no one's around anymore.


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... they're developing a master-master plan, who has time for websites?

Melvin....he done nothing lately, so why not learn web design - was able to run CMKX forum! lol and the rest of them getting their hands dirty.

Upside, you are correct, they done nothing to their web site. If you listen 3rd, 2nd or last radio call in (don't know which one exactly), he (Melivn) mention that the web site should be ready by the end of this week (date of call) or early next week. 2 weeks passed by and we got nothing yet.


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couldnt someone contact the firm to try to find out? Or would they just not tell you?
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originally posted by TradingWizard:
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Upside, you are correct, they done nothing to their web site. If you listen 3rd, 2nd or last radio call in (don't know which one exactly), he (Melivn) mention that the web site should be ready by the end of this week (date of call) or early next week. 2 weeks passed by and we got nothing yet.

It's probably true that they're working on a new site but couldn't they at least keep the old one updated to make it look like they're still around? I know nothing about web design but I would think that it's possible to run the two in conjunction until the new one takes over. Or, maybe Will's right, just no time because of other pressing issues.


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quote:
Originally posted by tahoechris:
couldnt someone contact the firm to try to find out? Or would they just not tell you?


Contact who? I'm thinking if you call them you'd get Melvin on the phone who is just manning the phone in an otherwise empty office space with UC out negotiating a way to make this stock the most talked about of the decade.

IMO UC has no time to worry about the web site and message boards and Melvin is over his head attempting to handle the demands of it all now. Their just buying time until UC and Roger release the mother-of-all-PR's.

You know, if you think about it, the fact that they aren't doing anything with the web site may be sign of things to come. i.e. a buyout to DeBeers perhaps and therefore they wouldn't need the company web site anymore.

Only opinions and theories here folks.


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Brad,
I noticed you're new here and have only owned CMKX for about a month now. Can I ask you what made you decide to buy it?

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originally posted by TradingWizard:
...just no time because of other pressing issues.

I think too the pressing issues are probably more important then web update - PRs can be issued via other sources. Web is just another marketing tool for them; mind you they put some other company ad on it, probably making money via pay per click ads due to high traffic in the past few months - its all about money for them, and diamonds I may say hopefully coming soon!


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quote:
Originally posted by Brad:

Contact who? I'm thinking if you call them you'd get Melvin on the phone who is just manning the phone in an otherwise empty office space with UC out negotiating a way to make this stock the most talked about of the decade.

IMO UC has no time to worry about the web site and message boards and Melvin is over his head attempting to handle the demands of it all now. Their just buying time until UC and Roger release the mother-of-all-PR's.

You know, if you think about it, the fact that they aren't doing anything with the web site may be sign of things to come. i.e. a buyout to DeBeers perhaps and therefore they wouldn't need the company web site anymore.

Only opinions and theories here folks.



No, Im talking about the law firm, whether they are still with us or not..

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See Upside, I told you they don't need no stinking website. They're working on that master-master plan, the big buy out, the mother of all PR's. There is nothing bad or negative about this company. Any fiasco or error in judgement gets covered up and applauded as there being a good reason for it. No matter how far a stretch of the imagination, in this case even bad is good.
I have never seen facts changed to fit and support the Urban legend like folks do for CMKX. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh|t, people.

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