quote:Originally posted by flashovertx: Upside! Wow, It is great to see a positive, forward looking statement from you... I have about as many shares as you, so for you to say that makes me a little more excited about the possibilities here
LOL. For the first time, he is living up to his name!
More money becomes available tomorrow. I think I am going to buy a 1/2 order tomorrow, maybe try putting one in for .0004 However If news comes out over the weekend I am only 1/2 as f*****d.lol. Choices...
I will have then reached my goal with 1.3+ million shares!!!! Yeah baby!!!
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PUMPER !!! It all means nothing, pumper, basher, candlestick maker. Until the share structure is OFFICIAL, you're someone that owns CMKX. After the OFFICIAL PR then you'll either a disappointed investor, or a happy investor.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: Great, now I'm going to be accused of being a pumper.
quote:PUMPER !!! It all means nothing, pumper, basher, candlestick maker. Until the share structure is OFFICIAL, you're someone that owns CMKX. After the OFFICIAL PR then you'll either a disappointed investor, or a happy investor.
Can't say I've ever been accused of being a candlestick maker though. Give it time, I'm sure I will be.
I was just going to say the same thing - tomorrow (assuming the PR comes out tonight), we'll all be either WINNERS or LOSERS, nothing more, nothing less. Let's hope Upsides's new-found optimism is a good omen and we will all be winners tomorrow. You know, Will, it's not too late for you either......(with a Darth Vader voice: come and leave the dark side, Will, join us on the "Upside")
BTW, I've had waaaay too much caffeine this morning!!!
I heard there is a new Folgers Brand: Folgers Morning Start Cocainated Coffee Beans... for that morning zip, afternoon zip and evening rush home...
Bahhhh, I hate coffee. Just something gross about it. But that is me. I dont like Speedy things, I am not into that whole 'zippity feeling'. Downers all the way!!!heheh, where is my street PHARMicist when I need him!?!?
-John
P.S. Listen I maybe a dick for saying this but NO PR until after I buy in, infact I wanted my girl friends friend to open an account and buy this stock. Maybe I should just buy her shares and keep them in my account... I am not sure. I would love for her to buy into this and have it hit! My g/f would be pissed since she is in Qbid.. but hey, she'll have her chance soon enough...
I am a young guy, and I have a question. Has anyone helped 'friends' (either a friend, or a Molsen 'Friend') of the oppiset sex out with stocks? I mean here is my question. I am friends with people about minus/plus five years my age. Now I am not saying I will make myself or anyone a lot of money, but there is a possibility of making some good amount of cash. Has anyone ever encountered 'problems', like if I make one person some good money, and to them it is GREAT money, has anyone ever run into, well how do I put this, romantic problems from it?
I mean I wouldn't expect this thing in a higher age group but I keep thinking, what if I make one of my girl friends (not a Molsen 'Friend', but not just a 'friend') who is like 18. Has anyone ever had to deal with new emotions from this? I mean seriously, if I made a girl like 10 grand , lets just say, and we are friends, for some reason I see something happening, on HER part, not necessarily mine. I mean money makes people do whacky sh it ... I was asking the older people and the ones who have experince in it.
I was just wondering thats all. I think I may have to fear a winner more than a loser stock, oddly enough.
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JB - If I were you, I would not mix business and pleasure. i am in a similar situation, but have not bought any for my girlfriend. The reason is becuase she does not have her own brokerage account, and you know just as I do, that relationships can become as volatile as penny stocks at any time, especially if you "pump" a stock to her and it does poorly....makes you look stupid and irresponsable. I am certainly not referring to CMKX with that last hypothetical situation.... And on the other side, if the stock makes 10 million dollars, I would be EXTREMELY paranoid that she would see an exit and sue for 1/2 claiming common law marriage or whatever...just random thoughts here
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I have always been hopeful that we all will be winners. It is just the nagging question of incomplete information, and the revelation of information that has made me criticize CMKX. That coupled with "Urbans Plan" to explain away everything. Sorry, I can't buy into that explanation. The next thread will either be: Urban Legend! OR Urban is a genius, thank you Urban! I haven't sold, nor do I intend to sell in the near future. I am in comfortably in for 1.5 million shares at .0003. I even said I might buy more if the price is right again. There is no darkside here, just doubt about the way they have went about giving information. Legitimate means legitimate, and along with that goes the responsibility of being, honest, forthright, and forthcoming with news. Compare the PR of the sample findings with real companies. They didn't have anyone out front saying "Mt. St. Helena", and then have a sister company publish a PR for flea sized diamonds. Now comes a rumor of the share structure, 400B, Marvin says, it's "BULL, ya hear me, BULL". The earlier PR said the audit would be complete before the transer to the new T/A, either by Global or an independent auditor. If that's the case, where is the info. I want it, I want it now! I know your answer to that, the laywer is using to negotiate with MM's. If that's the case, then say it in a fashion that will inform investors, and bolster their loyalty. No, we get a PR about a message board full of fools, and Marvin boasts about making the decision on his own to unplug it. Come on, who really cares about that crap. Now this is either real or three card monty, which is it? TELL ME, Urban, are you a legend or a genius?
quote:Originally posted by Money_Penny: Will,
I was just going to say the same thing - tomorrow (assuming the PR comes out tonight), we'll all be either WINNERS or LOSERS, nothing more, nothing less. Let's hope Upsides's new-found optimism is a good omen and we will all be winners tomorrow. You know, Will, it's not too late for you either......(with a Darth Vader voice: come and leave the dark side, Will, join us on the "Upside")
BTW, I've had waaaay too much caffeine this morning!!!
She has her own brokerage account through Scottrade. I don't think I will be buying ANYONE except myself shares lol, infact i KNOW THIS!
However I talked to her friend and she is all up for opening her account. I told her that the earlier you do this, the easier it will be for you to be a winner by the time you are done with School. She isn't looking to retire, just money for School and life, and I think that can be achivied.
Yes I dont like the idea of Lawsuits and court cases, seeing that I want to go into Law...
What I was really asking was do you think if a rather large amount of money was eanred in a short time span for a person, do you think they could get false emotions? Girls have a tendency to be real clingly... I guess I just have to watch the fire when I stoke it...
-John
Wow, 2 million!!!! CONGRATS!!!! I would have had 4 million but I waited and saw .0001/.0002 go far away,lol. Serves me right, Or perhaps someone up their didnt want me making to much money too quickly. lol.
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Hi Everyone-I want to announce that this supposition I am supposing would make me a full blown pumper if I stated it as a fact or that my neighbor's son's friend's cousin told me. Anyway here it is. I was emailing my group of friends who don't trade stocks but bought millions of shares of this (knowing the risk) because I thought the risk/reward ratio was good.
What if there was a settlement offered to the MM's at .05-.50 from the company which enabled them to buy the stock from CMKX and then retire the shares since they owe it-they sold already before they bought it. So now they buy it but we keep it and the cash adds value to our company. I am thinking a settlement price times 400 Billion shares + equals enough money to put this company on a bigger exchange and make our shares worth a lot of money. I need a better calculator. They could offer us investors a recurring monthly cash dividend from that money thereby giving us a higher share value and added liquidity. The higher share price would stay constant for long enough to switch to a larger exchange. This would also give us a ton of cash on hand. It is getting very interesting. God Bless and I will keep you posted. -Debi --------------------------------------------- I really hadn't thought along these lines before but it makes sense to me. We will know soon either way. I am an optimist by nature so unless someone comes along with a pin my balloon is not going ot land. Have a great time everyone and Best of Luck to those we are counting on luck and God's best Blessings on those looking to Him as their source. -Debi All the above is IMO and in the words of our very famous friend Do da due but be quick about it!!!!!
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Well, I for one am going to get rich off of this stock either way it goes. The first one is obvious, stock goes way up, I sell, I'm rich. If it folds, here's the plan. Im gonna get all of my certificates and not just one representing all of my holdings, oh no, I want millions of one share certs all over my house. Then I'm going to package them up in 100 share stacks and sell them for 10 bucks per stack on e-bay. Gonna market them as "Casavant Brand Toilet Tissue". Use them when you have one of those CMKXtreme days on the john and your own little kimberlite pipe feels like it's burning funny car nitro fuel. Even got the marketing slogan figured out: "Always use Casavant Brand Tissue, Wipe your Pipe with Urban". Might not make me rich but a couple hundred thousand would be ok too.
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Re: Ali's post w/Dr D at the end, the following must be clarified:
3rd paragraph, where it is stated, "Shares owned by Urban...company have are only not counted as part of the float IF THEY ARE RESTRICTED SHARES."
That statement is 100% incorrect. Absolutely no shares held by insiders are considered part of the float...restricted or otherwise.
6th paragraph, where a reference is made to authorized shares and Treasury shares where the example states the number of authorized shares is a certain amount and the balance are or may be Treasury shares.
That statement is 100% incorrect. There is no such thing as a company authorizing shares and then taking any part of those authorized and unissued shares and putting them in Treasury. Further, they cannot authorize shares and then issue any directly into the Treasury. Treasury shares are shares that have been, authorized, issued and outstanding and are later returned back to the company (repurchase on the open market, repurchase from insiders, repurchase similar to a reverse private placement, acquisition of a co that had the shares, etc.). Then, and only then, do they become Treasury shares.
In no situation are Treasury shares considered part of the float unless they are reissued and end up in the public's hands.
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Hi Upside, I would be buy some but I will have a lifetime supply. It may be the only brand we ever use (Or can afford to). I wonder if they will be cushiony soft or will have a rough kimberlite texture good for sandpapering jobs around the house. I would love to swap marketing ideas for the certs on this thread but have to leave for a while. Hopefully we will not need to do this -so let's save it for a worst case scenario situation for comic relief.GLTA-Debi
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You'll have many bidders, Upside, and I'll be one of them, even though in that scenario, most of us would be WIPED OUT.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: Well, I for one am going to get rich off of this stock either way it goes. The first one is obvious, stock goes way up, I sell, I'm rich. If it folds, here's the plan. Im gonna get all of my certificates and not just one representing all of my holdings, oh no, I want millions of one share certs all over my house. Then I'm going to package them up in 100 share stacks and sell them for 10 bucks per stack on e-bay. Gonna market them as "Casavant Brand Toilet Tissue". Use them when you have one of those CMKXtreme days on the john and your own little kimberlite pipe feels like it's burning funny car nitro fuel. Even got the marketing slogan figured out: "Always use Casavant Brand Tissue, Wipe your Pipe with Urban". Might not make me rich but a couple hundred thousand would be ok too.
These are the comments made by some of our petitioners View results as : All petitioners comments. Ordered by latest entries first All petitioners comments. Ordered by Country/State/City US petitioners comments only. Ordered by State/City
Number Country State City Notes 1 United States California all 5 of the above seem to be falling under the "naked short-selling" axe. 2 United States Pennsylvania Pittsburgh The practice of naked shorting of stock either is or should be illegal. Ethical brokerages, in my opinion, do not now engage in this practice. No Brokerage should. It is harmful to the companies involved and the shareholders who own the companies. Please take action NOW to stop it -- with no exceptions. 3 United States Virginia Roanoke Absolutely ridiculous. If you don't fix this soon, I expect the whole market to crash as investor confidence further erodes when the news gets out. Where is this money going? 4 United States New Mexico Santa Fe The SEC should provide a level playing field for investors. 5 United States New York hopewell jct. This sunncomm international is being shorted to death. I reference the research being done by web site INVESTORHUB-SCMI members.
The outstanding stock is approximately 300 million shares and the "naked shorting", has about 600 million shares sold to "unsuspecting investors".
An anology would be if a piece of property worth about $90,000 is held by 3 investors, and on an A & P bulliten board [pink sheets]one investor posts his asking price of $30,000. A stranger we call "HONEY FITZ",decides to sell "naked shorts", against the property.
He , knows the law and he sell that $90,000 parcel to 10 investors for $10,000 each. He pockets $100,000!
The 3 investor see there 1/3 investment in a $90,000 piece of property selling for $10,000. This is whats happening now and was one of the causes of the "great depression" in the United States.
please look at scmi stock. It is becomming so successful as a company, but is 's share price is being destroyed. 6 United States Ohio Akron All of us, including the SEC, must abide by the laws of the United States of America. 7 United States North Carolina Franklin Naked short practices has violated our investors confidence and faith in our finacial markets.I feel it is a curupt practice and is heavily abused to make MMs richa and push small equities into bankrupcy. Something needs to bne done the SEC is turning their head. 8 United States New Hampshire So many people are suffering because the SEC refuses to do their job. 9 United States New Hampshire The SEC is a joke. 10 United States New York Heavily shorted stock, in part by off- shore funds. Clearly criminal activity here. Shocked that this is being allowed to continue!
A. Kaubisch.
11 United States California Escondido It is completelty unfair for market makers to short stocks naked. 12 United States California Walnut Creek The real issue is the shorts are allowed to operate in the shadow world. Requirements applicable to hedge fund managers need to be on an equal footing with long fund managers.
Reporting needs to be placed on an equal footing with long trades. Up front and real time. The curtains need to be drawn back and the full light of day should be placed upon this activity. Rules governing short (hedge) funds need to be placed on an equal footing with long funds. Positions revealed and reported.
Off-shore funds should not be allowed to trade to and from NASD broker/dealers unless those funds have entered into agreements to, and have followed the rules imposed on, on-shore funds.
If short shares were reported tick by tick, these naked shares, and counterfeit shares would have long been a thing of the past.
13 United States Kansas Wichita The practice of naked shorting, particularly by large hedge funds, is used, along with slanderous statements in major publications, for market manipulation, which robs innocent people, including retirees, of their life savings. This practice of naked short selling should be stopped. Actually, all short selling should be limited to selling only the number of shares that you presently own. 14 United States California Manhattan beach Regulators; You can always blame the cleaning house on a few bad apples and save full integrity. Blame the NSCC, as the buck stops there. But without your doing the American thing, you are compromising your own hard working law abiding citizens. So many of us are in such pain; sleepless nights, medical illness, et. To stand by and watch the system and markets being manipulated like they are, is beyond anything I ever imagined experiencing as an American. 15 United States Connecticut West Hartford I own 1.6 million shares of this security and demand that the criminal act of naked shorting be stopped immediately!!! 16 United States California Novato Geron has 20% of its shares shorted. The market makers seem to use their shorting power to controll the call and put markets as well as the stock value when it suits it purpose. I see little MM action to support the value of the stock and provide a support during adverse news events. In other words they use their power to make money at the expense of investors. 17 United States Wisconsin Black River Falls Http://www.PennyMarkets.com We sift through thousands of Otcbb, Pink Sheet, Nasdaq, Nyse, and AMEX traded hot penny stocks to find our readers the most relevant Hot Penny Stocks. Please visit our site frequently as we are continuously adding new hot penny stock profiles. http://www.EquityGroups.com EquityGroups.com opens company specific investor group & stock message boards using Yahoo Financial Groups .We put hundreds of hours into the maintenance of our company specific stock message boards. Each day we investigate each group for spam and unwanted postings. We have found a serious need to increase investor information in company specific investor groups. We saw Yahoo's Financial Groups as a perfect avenue to increase information and promote exchange of knowledge between investors. If you find a problem with our company specific investor group & stock message boards, or if you have ideas to improve our service, please contact me at jbuchen@GroupVenture.com Thanks for visiting our site and please visit again! 18 United States North Carolina Charlotte naked shorting had killed the BB stock market and as our protector and rule maker we need the SEC's help! 19 Belgium turnhout STOP STEELING OUR MONEY 20 United States Florida Naples Stop naked shorting! 21 United States Illinois Chicago Naked shorting should be illegal. Hedge funds need oversight. Sec IS responsible for the loss of billions and should be held accountable. 22 United States California It looks like certain white collar conartist criminals, as well as greedy manipulative maliscious market makers are stealing, raping, ripping off investors and companies, and lining their pockets with "our" money, by playing games with the buying and selling process, the computer trading system, shorts, volume, false recordings of buys as sells, etc. They are manipulating things. They got the inside "info" on how the "system" works, and how to use that to their benefit. They are not making "markets" to serve the companies and investors, which was their original purpose, but, instead, are making markets the way they want them to be, in order to "screw" us all out of our hard earned money. These professional white collar criminals, are "insiders" using "inside information" of how the markets work, how the computer trading systems work, and how to manipulate the markets and stocks, using this information. They match up the "buys" and the "sells" to their advance. They buy and sell, and compete against the very investors and companies they were originally supposed to serve. And, the U.S. government, SEC, and other governments and agencies, are allowing this to continue. The average investor trading online, does not know enough about what is going on, to know how much they are being "screwed" and "ripped-off." Many investors are losing their money, and are giving up on online trading because they have been victims of these white collar criminals. We need laws, rules, regulations, and protection for the investor and the companies, to protect all of us from these vicious greedy animals who are stealing our money. They are thieves. I am all for new legislation and I'm all for a Class Action Law Suit to go after these manipulative market makers. We need a big powerful law firm that will take this Class Action Law Suit on, pro bono, to get paid back by the government and the market makers, when we sue their "butts" in Supreme Court. Let's make this a fair playing field. I'm tired of seeing people getting ripped off in small caps and other stocks. 23 United States Louisiana Baton Rouge Please research the possibility of forwarding these petitions to the appropriate state Senators, Representatives and Congressmen of the state indicated on these petitions. I have done this individually, but I believe this needs to be done also on a collective basis. This is important and urgent enough to flood our elected officials with this response to the unethical and fraudulent action being conducted by the SEC. 24 United States California Paradise A level playing field is LONG overdue. Do we have the fox watching over the chicken house???? 25 United States Florida Atlantic Beach Particularly in the case of CALM, short interest has EXCEEDED the shares in the float for months, indicating obvious naked short selling. 26 United States Texas Dallas I sincerely appreciate the work that you doing in trying to stop this illegal and devastating activity of naked short selling by criminals and those in power. Your work will ultimately benefit individual investors as well as the companies they invest in tremendously.
It is time we take action in order to make the SEC accountable for it's actions and inactions.
If you need any assistance in getting the word out, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Thank you and good luck!
27 United States California Santa barbara Our hard earned savings being manipulated with the help of the NSCC,goes against the grain of our Capitalistic system. Be American. Be brave. Be responsible. Just because law "breakers" have taken advantage of our law "makers", doesn't make our SEC or DTCC/NSCC wrong. Reputation will be restored once the fraud is stopped. Please, help us. Julie 28 United States Florida west palm beach to many to list. thanks phil r. 29 United States Ohio Cincinnati I am a small cap stock investor 30 United States Ohio Akron Since the SEC admits to this illegal practice of naked shorting that is going on...and they are still allowing these crooks to keep their money...they need to be investigated at once! There is still nothing protecting us from naked shorters. They can break the law...steal our money...and dont serve any jail time! 20 years should be the minimum...it is just like any other theft felony! 31 Canada Ontario Toronto Would like to see some action against the abuse of individual shareholders. 32 United States Florida Vero Beach Someone NEEDS tp look at the way these clown aka the BOB does business and how they got 1000s of investors screwed over with their tacticts as well as their cronies that where behind the... 33 United States Maine What makes me furious is that we as private shareholders and buyers of stock aren't allowed to short any stock that is not listed on a national securities exchange like the OTCBB and PINK SHEETS. If we can't do this then how can the MM's be allowed to do this? The laws should apply to all people involved and not just certain ones. It's pretty bad when a company is doing outstanding business and the MM's keeps it down to the ground in hopes it will go bankrupt. Some country we are living in. The people in this country are wondering why their jobs and the companies they work for are moving to other countries, well with the people we have running this country into the ground its a wonder. I think it is time to earn the money you make that this country pays you to keep things running the way they should, evenly for all americans and not just the ones you want like yourself. It seems like the old saying keeps running through MM's head "horray for me and to heck with you". You are probably saying the same thing or you would have done something by now. Making them pay a small fine doesn't affect them much. If they make a million or so in a month and you slap them with a 50 thousand fine do you really think that hurts them? They will just keep it up and pay the fine while they pocket the rest of the money they made. Time to get your hands dirty and do something about this for a change. That is if you can. 34 United States Fort Lauderdale Whatever this people are doing is not only unbelievable but unethical, unprofessional, illegal, downright dirty and selfish - only to name a few!!!! 35 United States Florida Davie This is stealing and we are getting no regulation from the people we pay to stop it. I feel like we are getting it from both sides. SEC needs to stop turning the other way whenever there side income is jepordized.
If we(as investors) did this they would lock the door adn throw the key away!
36 United States Washington Seattle Naked short selling is outrageous and rapes us all in the dark! We can do nothing, but watch our well thought out investments go down the toilet due to this illegal and malicious crime. Stop naked short selling and restore the fair and LAWFUL investing practices we are ALL entitled to! 37 United States Hawaii mms naked short of CMKX 38 United States Arizona Scottsdale Over the years I have had a couple of holdings and I have watched others where the short position balooned beyond the point where brokers appeared to have stock available to those shorting. There almost had to be a good number of naked shorts involved.
Problem: a company facing difficult times can get into a position where the naked shorters drive the price of the stock so low that the company is unable to engage in normal and reasonable financing options.
In one or two cases, the companies probably deserved to go away, but in other instances the company went away because those shorting the stock created the impression that things were worse than they in fact were and lenders and underwriters fled leaving the company to fail. 39 United States Washington Spokane DMXP, DTCT, BSQR and ICMH as well 40 United States Louisiana Athen The SEC could care less about us investors. What a joke the SEC is. All this crap needs to stop. But will it?? I bet not, they don't give a damn about us.
SHAME ON YOU SEC. 41 United States Pennsylvania Philadelphia Any political candidate who addresses this issue gets my vote and the votes of hundreds of thousands of others too, im sure. 42 United States Alabama Semmes It is time to stop being a horse's arse. Everyone knows that you make money on the transactions from naked shorting and you will do little or nothing to stop it. May GOD have mercy on your souls. But, you know what, he won't. Not one bit. You will reap what you've sewn here on earth and spend an eternity in HELL paying for it. So do as you hearts feel content. 43 United States Virginia Alexandria I also own BIPH, ARTX, TFCT, BTOR, but I am not sure if they are listed on Berlin exchange or are involved in naked shorting. 44 United States California Mill Valley The SEC is enabling the shorters to ruin the market for everyone else involved with it. The SEC was created in 1934 for a necessary function required to maintain a fair market. Unless we maintain this the market is not sustainable. 45 United States Illinois Chicago You call this Capitalism? Stop these thieves,this is the U.S.A.....MB 46 United States Pennsylvania IT'S REDICULOUS THAT MMS ARE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH NAKED SHORTING DAY IN AND DAY OUT!! 47 United States Michigan Ypsilanti Simtek (SRAM) in particular has been subject to naked shorting on the Berlin Exchange. 48 United States Minnesota Grand Rapids I totally agree the sec is part of the problem. they have never been part of the solution. 49 United States New York New York This has got to stop. It is theft, pure and simple. It not only steals the from the new entreuprenurs in our country, but from the hard working everyday wage earner who invests in the dreams that this country was built on. It is a disgrace, and it is criminal! 50 United States Ohio Marion The United States is the greatest capitalist nation that has ever existed. It is amazing that any government agency would sit by while the American dream is snuffed and sat on by the unjust. The individual investor is being bullied and stolen from and the assigned defender sits nearby, pretending to not see it. 51 United States California Irvine Naked shorts in abundance and keeping price down. Must fix. 52 United States Colorado PRIM shorted to death 53 United Kingdom Foreign Country Stop naked short selling or investors will file national lawsuit against MMs that will make the tobaco trial look like a joke. 54 United States Michigan Monroe The SEC must stop the practice of manipulative Naked Short Selling. Even under the new introduction of Reg SHO, it will only "slow down" the continuous financial harm occurring to numerous companies and their many thousands of shareholders. The new introduction of Reg SHO should be considered as no more than a half-hearted "bandaid" that will not stop the well financed and very powerful forces that control the flow of money resulting from manipulation.
The SEC must quickly step in if they are to prevent the collapse of companies that have already found there are more naked shares short than all the existing outstanding shares of the company.
Neil Mack Reg. Rep. 55 United States Arizona Scottsdale Please put in placer regulations to stop naked short selling!!! 56 Mexico Foreign Country This has been going on for years. I've watched legitimate companies come under attack and literally be destroyed by naked shorting and their shareholders lose significant hard-earned investment capital. DTC, transfer agents, brokers and the SEC do nothing to ensure the current rules are enforced, nevermind creating new regulations that no doubt would have the same fate. It is criminal behaviour in many cases and shameful that the regulators do nothing about it. This issue should receive national attention and the people who are responsible should be held accountable. 57 United States Oklahoma Tulsa From not processing buy orders, to walking the stock down after good p.r.s, as well as a billion illegal naked shorts, this company has been desimated by these scum bag market makers whom have stollen billions of dollars. The number one thing to help the economy would be to put an end to this corruption. 58 United States Texas colleyville I`m a Professional trader, and I am not seeing a fair and orderly market being made in this stock.
Trillions of shares being traded at the ask, and the price of the stock continues to decline.
I would really like to see the small investor get some kind of portection from this abuse.
JWK 59 United States Illinois Poplar Grove please help stop what should be an illegal practice 60 United States Florida Tallahassee Naked shorting is an issue that needs to be addressed as soon as possible. The impact that long term naked shorting has on investors is tremendous. The ability for Market Makers to inter-trade among themselves to get out of trouble because of naked shorting is outrageous also. I trust our loyal government, especially in the time of campagining, would address this issue. 61 United States Vermont Waitsfield TIDE is trying to help control the price of natural gas in North America. Naked shorting has made it very hard and costly to raise money. It is clear to anyone who has done homework on naked shorting that it is illegal CAN be policed and should be stopped RIGHT NOW. WAKE UP REGULATORS 62 United States Ravenna All I ask for is a level playing field. These market makers and clearing houses should have to abide by the same rules that I do. The SEC is definately not doing its job to protect individual investors from this market manipulation. It is a disgrace that they continue to allow the markets to be rigged against the honest investor. 63 United States California Marina Del Rey Outright theft with Goverment support. 64 United States Colorado Fort Collins Trading patterns seem very unusual and there is a strong suggestion of naked shorting. As an investor, it is frustrating that there is no way to verify or dispute this issue. It seems too easy to run a company into the ground and never having to cover a short position. We the investors are the losers in this situation and there needs to be some accountability! 65 United States Kansas CMKX is my primary concern- I cannot believe how this stock is so easily manipulated down with good PR. 66 United States Missouri Arnold A blind man can see that naked shorting is going on in this company by the market makers. What is the SEC going to do about it. If nothing, the SEC is scum. 67 Korea, Republic of Foreign Country CMKX~!! MM's are naked shorting the "bujesus' out of this stock. I'm fairly new to investing but even i can see that there is something wrong here. Especially with the MM JEFF!! This person needs to be punished for what he is doing to a hard working company! 68 United States Ohio Lancaster I, as everyone else, can't be sure that naked shorting is going on. However, I can be certain that something illegal and closely related to naked shorting is happening with this stock. There is no way that many shares are being traded with that much support and demand, and still the price remains at .0005!! It is just not possible! 69 United States New York Troy Market Makers are naked shorting CMKX a small pink sheet company..they are trying to ruin this company and force them to go out of business.....Please stop this illegal practice......us honest shareholders are losing our shirts...thank you.....Charles Grenier 70 Canada Ontario n.o.t.l. there are reports from many sources that there is a lot of naked short selling on this stock.i own a lot of shares and wondering if these mm s are keeping the price down and if you re looking at this 71 United States California Carlsbad The manipulation by hedge funds and large professional shorts is obvious. No sooner did the NASD take it upon itself to attempt to control naked shorting than we found NFI listed on the Berlin exchange with naked shorting taking place there. I, for one, would like to see a full scale investigation into the _POSSIBILITY_ that large scale hedge funds are in cahoots with certain journalists whose first amendment "rights" include the right to spin negative information about companies in tandem with short attacks. I beleive it is time to put an end to naked shorting period! I also believe that it is time to hold the financial press responsible for their actions. Freedom of the press should not be extended to permitting outright lies to be made in print and corrected the next day after major damage has been done. It's time to subpoena information, expose the payola in the financial press and put these boys out of business. 72 Canada British Columbia i am protesting against naked shorting....surely there must be something the sec or who has the authority to do something and make these naked shorters cover and not kill cos. that have a good future... 73 United States Florida Largo IMO CGPN was naked shorted when MMs thought they were going out business. The current CEO, Scott Cramer cut expenses, funded the company with his own money and has not added any shares to float for over 2 years, while still staying full reporting by timely filings. CGPN has had the same bashers on CGPN ragingbull message board now for over 3 1/2 years, all have more post on CGPN board than any other board and none invested. Bashers Microcap_Matty, Gribbit, never_happen, surfsurf, dogsbullocks and more. CGPN CEO scramer@cramerandassociates.com 74 United States California Lafayette The SEC is defaulting on its obligation to the security of shareholders. We WILL have justice! 75 India Foreign Country Kolkata I am shocked to learn of this.
How can any civilised government continue to permit this.
An unscientific dilution of value.
Its like going back to the medieval practices of trading when we have all the computers in place and the economists know exactly whats good for the economy and what is not.
Then again, anything can be expected in the United States, where the President is the mastermind in the plot for the greatest massacre that hits its own nation.
~Amen~
76 United States California Fullerton Stop Naked Shorting CMKX. You will be sorry in the end. Roger Glenn will make sure of that. 77 United States Texas Houston The SEC has created an environment to help the securities brokers by not making laws on naked short selling that are enforceable and protect the investor at large. This is in direct violation of why the SEC was formed. I believe that they are all crooks where money is involved and the extent of illegal activities that the SEC is involved in would be unsurprizing to anyone familiar with investing.
Respetfully,
Neil Nance 78 United States Texas Vidor holding about 4.2 million shares and this shorting has to stop now 79 United States Indiana Naked Short Selling is a detriment to American small businesses and/or brand new businesses trying to get established. The ability to buy/sell stock that you do not actually have is nothing short of theft. 80 Canada Magog, Quebec Lot of naked short 81 United States Florida Placida many more. 82 United States California Pasadena Naked shorting is a major scandal involving some very big fish. The SEC is not about to investigate itself and the DTC because they are a major source of the problem. 98% of the time short sales are never covered because the egregious dilution renderes the company bankrupt. Check out this web site for a more articulate overview. http://www.faulkingtruth.com/
83 United States Wisconsin Haugen Tired of naked shorting theres people behind bars for stealing " what part of stealing don,t i understand??? against the law. they should be behind Bars those MM,s 84 United Kingdom Darlington This practice seems to now be taking place using the Berlin SE. When I contact the Companies concerned I always get a reassuring reply that indicates that the CEO's have no real understanding of naked shorting and how it can affect their business. Please do all you can so that small investors can have a level playing field!! 85 United States Ohio ashtabula I do have specific companies that I believe I have witnessed first hand the effects of NAKED SHORTING! My point in listing "ALL" under company names is this practice should not be tolerated in any company at any level or to any degree. It is my opinion that not only are investors stripped of their money but populations as a whole are striped of new and inovative companys and ideas. Ultimately people the world over are stripped of jobs and opportunities. STOP NAKED SHORT SELLING IT CREATES AN UNEVEN PLAYING FIELD GET OVER YOURSELVES AND YOUR COMFORTS CHANGE THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 86 United States Rhode Island North Scituate please do not blow us off!! 87 United States Tennessee Bean Station ...or are you just taking us ALL for a ride? We the people should mean something? 88 United States Colorado Colorado Springs Unbelievable that the practice of naked short selling is legal. Inexcusable! 89 United States Oklahoma Concerned about all listed securities. Naked short selling does nothing to bring about a fair and open market. It seems the regulators need to be regulated. 90 United States California san diego this wrong i back all fellow share holders on this its just like steeling and should be pentalized 91 United States Oregon Merlin I believe naked shorting is hurting the US investor and thusly the country as a whole-Frank Clark 92 United States Texas Houston Judge Learned Hand once said, "Him who sells what isn't hisn' buys it back or goes to prison." That puts it simply enough. DTC has no business permitting naked shorting, and no company should be listed on a foreign exchange without its authorization. 93 United States New York I am appalled that this has been allowed to continue. As a taxpayer and an investor, I demand that you fulfill your responsibilities as the watchdog for unethical trading practices in this country. This scandal far exceeds anything that Enron or Martha Stewart have done. 94 Canada Alberta Forget the company names...how about the 'four or less' traders on the COMEX that are naked short more silver than exists on the COMEX...is know to exist in the world...or many times more ounces that the United States and Mexico produce in one year. This is another 'crime in progress'. See www.butlerresearch.com for more information. 95 United States New Jersey w. berlin ththf, qant, bwwwf, msitf, nnos, and atft are some of the stocks that are being sucked dry by these MM's (market Makers) they should be called MB's (market Breakers) DO SOMETHING!!! they are violating the LAW!!!! 96 United States California The more one is educated on these types of issues, the more likely one is to lose all confience in the markets. They need to be cleaned up or the people will clean them up eventually. 97 Canada Victoria B.C Stock price driven down to subpennys, reverse split 100 to 1 or 250 to 1 driving share price up only to see it driven back into subpennys again. We need class action law suits against our governments and financial institutions that we so gladly give our trust and money to. This is a real shame, this is a crime. 98 United States Washington Just an example of stocks. This crime has been going on for quite some time. The SEC in no way is protecting the little guy. You take us out of the market and see what happens. FANC, NITE, MAYF, NAIB, market makers some of the biggest players involved. SEC knows this but does nothing. Why is that? You know very well why it is. Kickbacks! 99 United States Connecticut Bethel It is time to clean this up. If you make an example of one, the others will follow. 100 United States California Westminster With CMKX it is so obvious, as you may know Dateline has a unreleased in depth report on the MMs in violation. I sure hope you can do something about this. Sincerely: Alvan DeGraw
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You know, I've been noticing 2 particular stocks in my portfolio, whose shares are worth more than CMKX's. One is worth .025 today, and the other is worth .005.
"So what," you may ask? Well, both of these are BANKRUPT companies!
You are right on concerning some of the points that DrD made. He adds much to the discussion, but I knew he missed the mark on the points you addressed. Good job and good post.
Up...I laughed up one side and down the other reading your post. Definitely a keeper to look back on in the future. A much needed laugh for all. Please don't squeeze the Urban. :)
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lot`s big blocks at 9 mill. where do they continusly that size it looked first sell at 0.0004 then buy at 0.0005 are they covering ?
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JB Just to clear a few misleading statements 1-I am almost 60 and just had a 39th anniversary, YEH I only knew a week before asking and married within 2 months Of course everyone said wouldn"t workout. So much for you & your money being screwed !! I help some older people who are computer or financially literate. I insist they open a brokerage account in thier name and I am an authorized trader. I also find out who thier attorney is in case something happens. I meet Once a month and see what they are thinking I research and buy what they want, I watch the account daily and keep stop/limit sells in. I don't buy them any pennys. VAN
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CMKM NEWS, with a grain of salt, O/S 4.3 billion ?
Hey willy take this with a grain of salt but here is somethiDuring a discussion earlier today between me and my broker, I was given some information that I don't think was intended for my ears. I knew it had potential to stir up some controversy, so I decided I wasn't going to post anything about my conversation. However, after reading many of tonight's concerns regarding the O/S (fueled mostly by a few buffoons spewing their buffoonery), it didn't seem that what I had to say could do anything but help. If it turns out that I'm wrong and this only stirs things up more, I apologize. Honestly, I just want everyone to hear and consider the same information I heard, not to mention that I wouldn't mind seeing some discussion on this as well. Ok, I was talking to a stock specialist at Fidelity, and was discussing the whole shorting issue surrounding CMKX. Long story short, he suggested I contact the transfer agent if I suspected any improprieties. I mentioned that we had just empowered a new transfer agent and it might be easier said than done. He said he had Pacific's phone number right in front of him and could could try to get to the right person for me. I was on hold for about 2 minutes, and when he came back he gave me the name of the rep handling CMKX (Brian Dvorak) and his number. Then.... he said he was told there were 4.3 billion "free trading" shares. I paused for a second, and he asked if I was still there (I had not asked for this info, so I was caught off gaurd when he threw that number out). I said yes I was still here, but had just thought there were more than 4.3 billion. He said that was the number they gave him.
I don't know if he was given this information because he was a broker, or what, but I kind of doubt I could have called Pacific, introduced myself as a shareholder, and been given this kind of information.
Now, whether I got lucky, or whether this information was correct or not, or whether they made a mistake and gave information out that they weren't supposed to, I honestly don't know. Also, by "free trading" shares, I can't be sure if that implies just the public float, or the entire balance of issued shares. This was not clarified.
After this call, I called Brian at Pacific to ask him a few unrelated questions. He was very pleasant, and was generous with his time even though he was on vacation (I think he driving in his car with his family at the time). I learned quite a bit from Brian and feel very comfortable with my position after talking with him. Even though CMKX just engaged Pacific, they have been working together with Urban for some time. I was expecting that he would just be getting up to speed on CMKX and may not be familar enough with the issue to answer my questions, but in fact it was exactly the opposite. He is very familiar with the issue, as well as present and past CMKM operations. Brian assured me that whatever the share structure situation is once it's all completely identified, that it will be addressed. Urban is committed to CMKX shareholders, which he added is evident by the fact that CMKX is now working with heavy hitters like Pacific and Edward's and Angell.
Brian also injected a few opinions of who he thought could be behind the bashing and why. I won't get into specifics on the board, but man o' man, if he's even partly correct then there would be some very big names (people/companies) getting nervous about CMKX.
I don't post much anymore, mostly because I just don't have time at the end of the day. However, because of all the talk today about the o/s, I really wanted to take the time tonight and pass this along. I'd also like to know if anyone else has talked with Brian yet or if they have heard or been given any share information similar to what I have.
Thanks for the post of that information. I, unfortunately have to say that I cannot believe one word of that post, becuase of the positioning the writer states in the very last paragraph. It almost seems like the writer is stating that JUST to bring some credibility and "randomness" to the post. I want to believe it, but cant.
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DONT BELEIVE ANYTHING UNTIL CMKX COMES OUT WITH THERE PR. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!!!!!!!
GUYS DONT GET ALL EXCITED ABOUT THE BLAH BLAH. WE WILL MAKE MONEY ON THIS STOCK SOON. ALL THERE PR'S ARE LEADING TO SOMETHING GOOD. JUST REMEMBER THAT. ALL THE OTHER STUFF IS BULL****.
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Was there a post earlier this morning claiming that the poster had been told my Melvin that a PR is coming out today? Or did the post say they're working on a PR today?
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HARRY That was a post copied from another board who had a friend with an uncle who listened to the radio and took notes,. Since he was busy he gave the notes to cousin who posted to the board where the original post here was copied from. Hope this helps VAN
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HARRY NO not a joke. The stakes are high on this and you can't be to careful. There are some (BO,UPSIDE,WALLACE, and OTHERS) who say Wait for the "Officaial" pR. VAN
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I have about as many shares as you, so for you to say that makes me a little more excited about the possibilities here
