In 1990, Oak Park, Ill., real estate agent Donna Karpavicius decided to specialize in marketing to gay men and lesbians.
"I had virtually no competition," the Prudential agent recalls of her early career in Chicago. "Unfortunately -- for me, anyway -- there's a lot more now."
Is there ever. Although other gay-related issues have made headlines, the real estate business quietly has turned the once-taboo practice of marketing to gay consumers into a coveted specialty.
Certainly, real estate isn't alone in trying to reach out to gay consumers. Ford Motor Co., Procter & Gamble, United Airlines and Starbucks are a few examples of businesses that have had same-sex-couple ad campaigns aimed at gays.
And then there's the media hoopla over gay-themed television shows like "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy."
"A lot of the so-called gay lifestyle is being demystified," said Jim Schiefelbein, marketing director for realty firm Baird & Warner. "It's hot right now, a front-burner issue for a lot of people, but it's something we've been doing here for years."
In real estate, though, the issue of gay rights is more akin to an age-old business practice: Follow the money.
"When real estate companies realized that the gay consumer had disposable income, that was when things started to change," said Adam Thompson, managing broker at Rainbow Realty Corp. in Elmhurst, Ill., which specializes in working with gay clients.
That disposable income appears to be considerable.
"The projected spending power of the gay and lesbian segment of the population, about 15 million people, for 2003 is $485 billion," said Stephanie Blackwood, a New York marketing executive. "That's compared to the Hispanic segment, which is $653 billion, but gays and lesbians are nearly a third the size of the Hispanic segment."
Many agents agree that money has broken down the walls.
"If I don't pick up the phone, there are a hundred agents who will," said Alan Zuber, a Baird & Warner agent.
"There are a lot of straight agents in my office, and almost all of them have worked with gay clients," Karpavicius said. "Whether any of them have any personal or moral reservations, I don't know. But when you get somebody coming in to pay $400,000 for a house, they get over it pretty quick."
Thompson put it simply: "Money talks. You can put that in bold and underline it."
Schiefelbein said Baird & Warner has strived to be inclusive with its workforce and its consumers.
Two years ago, Baird & Warner became one of the few realty firms to place companywide ads intended to appeal to gay men and lesbians. Most have been in gay-oriented publications, though recently ads have appeared in general-circulation newspapers, he said.
"We were the first real estate company to feature same-sex models in our advertising," Schiefelbein said. "It was groundbreaking at the time."
Thompson agrees that real estate marketing has undergone a dramatic change. "I can tell you that 12 years ago you couldn't put the word 'gay' in print."
For the most part, the attitude change at realty firms comes from the agents, not the corporate parent, Blackwood said.
"On an industry level, the real estate industry is nowhere," said Blackwood, cofounder of Double Platinum, a New York marketing communications company specializing in the gay market. "No national real estate company has branded itself as gay-friendly. You don't see institutional corporate advertising. I see agents advertising, and they pay for their own ads.
"I've approached large real estate companies about this issue, and the answer I always get is, 'That would be a decision made at the local level, not corporately."'
Blackwood said that the great times for the real estate industry in the last few years have meant that there is no powerful economic motivation to reach out to gay men and lesbians.
"They just haven't needed to," she said. "If it were hurting a little more, you would see more interest in the market, sure."
Companies realize that changes require more than creating the right ad copy, she said.
"When a corporation positions itself as interested in the market, that's when it becomes necessary to ensure that all the brokers who work for that corporation are gay-friendly too. Then it requires that the corporation look at all the policies and paperwork to be sure they're providing services that a same-sex couple might need" in order not to appear hypocritical, Blackwood said.
After decades of treating gay consumers as the invisible minority they often were, automakers are courting them directly, often with messages that wave the rainbow banner of gay acceptance.
This year, Jaguar, Volkswagen and Volvo began advertising in national gay publications, joining three companies—Saab, Saturn and Subaru—that had signed on earlier. And the commitment often runs deeper than a few strategic ads. Carmakers are sponsoring gay events, awards and causes.
Last year, DaimlerChrysler, Ford and General Motors were sponsors of the annual show of the Lambda Car Club, a group of nearly 2,000 gay collectors. For two years, Jaguar has sponsored media awards given by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. In June, Volvo provided cars for the Los Angeles gay pride parade. Subaru, whose cars have long sold well among gay men and lesbians, has taken an increasingly prominent role. It sponsors the Los Angeles gay pride festival and events organized by an advocacy group, the Human Rights Campaign. It was a founding sponsor of the Rainbow Card, an affinity credit card program—co-founded by Martina Navratilova—that has raised more than $1 million for gay causes. Subaru gives discounts of up to $3,000 to cardholders.
"We're clear that we support the health and civic-mindedness of the gay and lesbian community," said Tim Bennett, director of national marketing for Subaru. "We were the first to offer domestic partnership benefits. We're not just here to sell you a car as an exploited segment."
Saab was the first to advertise in the national gay press, in 1994. Saturn dipped its toes in the water a year later, then retreated, but returned in 1999. Although it only recently joined the party, Volvo seems intent on having fun. Last month, it ran an ad in Genre, a gay lifestyle magazine, that showed a man's bare upper torso and an S60 sedan. The tagline read: "Lust and logic. Don't they make a lovely couple?"
Subaru, which began gay-specific advertising in 1997, is probably the most visible, and daring. Typical of its sassy tone was a recent ad with the tagline, "Get out. And stay out," a sly wordplay on leaving the closet—and exploring the great outdoors.
"It says, 'We acknowledge you as a consumer; this is the language that you speak,' " said John Nash, president of Moon City Productions, the San Francisco company that created the campaign.
In 1994, Subaru identified gays as one of its five core groups of buyers. "There were educators, health-care professionals, technical professionals, rugged individualists—man vs. nature types—and then gay men and lesbians," Mr. Bennett said.
Research also determined that the gay community was a good market for Saturn, a G.M. division. "It's been underserved," said Tom Else, senior vice president of Publicis & Hal Riney, which does Saturn advertising.
National gay publications offer prized demographics to advertisers. According to the most recent survey commissioned by Liberation Publications Inc., which owns Out, a lifestyle magazine, and The Advocate, a newsmagazine, the publications' average reader is a 39-year-old white-collar professional man with a college degree and a household income of $95,000. Readers also have a strong propensity to buy European cars, the survey found.
Yet, however visible many gay people have become, automakers face a marketing conundrum. "How do you reach a group that in many ways wants to remain hidden?" asked Bret Scott, a G.M. engineer who is co-chairman of G.M. Plus, an advocacy group for the company's gay and lesbian employees. "And how do you advertise to a group that is really a subset of a lot of other groups of people?"
Relations between the industry and many gay people warmed considerably last year when the Detroit automakers began offering employee benefits to same-sex partners, under a joint agreement with the United Automobile Workers. The change came after Big Three employees jointly petitioned the companies, and the union, on the issue.
"The recognition of gays and lesbians as car consumers is something that has been put on the radar screen of the Big Three companies by their employee resource groups," said Cindy Clardy of Ford Globe, a gay employee group. "We also told Ford not to try and consider direct marketing to gay and lesbian consumers until they had their internal policies in place. You run the risk of being seen as, 'You just want to take our money but you don't care about your gay employees.' "
Throughout the car industry, diversity consultants are popping up. "All the leading companies are taking initiatives to do diversity marketing," said Javelyn Ibarra Baldwin, cultural marketing manager for Jaguar. "They are realizing that they can no longer ignore, or do marketing or advertising, without having a consideration of all the groups that exist."
Still, most companies do not advertise in the gay press. "We don't do any specific targeting to the gay community," said Karen Vonder Meulen, marketing and events communications manager for BMW. "The community already purchases our cars without having to target them individually."
Though Mazda has a new diversity program, the company is channeling its marketing energies toward three groups—African-Americans, Hispanics and Asians—that showed more marketing potential, said Jyoti Bates, a media and diversity marketing specialist for Mazda.
But industry executives are also sensitive to the possibility of a backlash from the majority of their customers. "They worry that reaching out to gays with a particular model can then affect the rest of the lineup," a senior advertising executive said, adding that the companies aimed their promotions where only gays were likely to see them. "They may view it as a political nightmare to be strongly associated in the market."
But Mr. Bennett of Subaru is pragmatic about his company's explicit stance: "Look, we know that our owner base and our consumers are extremely well educated, and they celebrate diversity. A person who would be offended by our advertising probably would not have bought our car anyway."
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OK GUYS I HAVE BEEN IS THIS SINCE .0015 I HAVEN'T CONTRIBUTED MUCH BECAUSE EVERYTHING I CAN FIND OR THINK OF HAS BEEN FOUND OR ALREADY TALKED ABOUT UNTIL NOW.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE HERE. WE MOVED THIS MUCH OF NO NEWS, NOTHING. WE STILL HAVE THE CONVENTION COMING UP. WE STILL HAVE A POSSIBLE PR COMING ABOUT THE BUYBACK. AND MOST OF ALL WE STILL HAVE THE LAUNCH.
ALL OF THIS MOVEMENT HERE IS JUST A SMALL PREVIEW OF THE POTENTIAL THIS STOCK HAS, OFF OF NO NEWS , NOTHING.
PEOPLE ARE RATTLED BY THE RETRACE. WE ALL KNOW THIS IS A MUST. AND KEEPS THE STOCK HEALTHY. LET THE WEAK HANDS BE SHAKEN LOOSE AND THEIR SHARES BOUGHT BY THE LONGS.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED, NO NEWS WE STILL HAVE THE NO REVERSE SPLIT BOLDLY STATED BY THE CEO. JUST LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE ON NOTHING CHANGING.UP UP UP HUGE. YES IT IS DOWN FROM THE HIGH, SO WHAT. WHO CARES HOW LOW IT GOES IN THE RIGHT NOW, THE REAL DEAL HAS YET TO COME. DIANA IS A PRO WITH THE TIME AND KNOW HOW TO DAY TRADE THIS AND MAKE MONEY. I AM NOT TAKING THAT RISK. TO EACH HIS OWN, BUT DON'T GET CAUGHT WISHING YOU WOULD HAVE INSTEAD OF GLAD YOU DID.( A QUOTE FROM THE FAMOUS U4 OF THE 2FAST STOCK FIRM)
AND BART I GUESS YOU FINALLY GOT OUT OFF CMKX, WISH I COULD. BUT PLEASE GIVE ME ONE EAT MONSTER EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!B/C QBID IS DEFINATELY A SLEEPING MONSTER JUST BEGINING TO START TO WAKE UP.
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Thanks for the info Tigerontop. Newbie here. I started thinking about selling and buying back but got a little nervous about being left holding the empty bag when it rockets. 150k shares. thought about buying more. Any opinions would be helpful.
-- Breaking Market News! April 14, 2004, Part 2 By Staff WESTON, Fla., Apr 14, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- Wall Street News Alert's "stocks to watch" this morning are: Network Installation Corp. (OTCBB:NWIS), Triangle Multi-media Inc. (Pink Sheets:QBID), GEMZ Corp. (Pink Sheets:GMZC) and Spectrum Signal Process (Nasdaq:SSPI).
Aggressive investors should take a look at Network Installation Corp. (OTCBB:NWIS) this morning! Yesterday after the markets closed, the company issued a press release announcing that it has been awarded a project order to install a wireless voice network for specialty medical device manufacturer Applied Medical!
This could be more great news for investors! Utilizing Motorola's Canopy Point-to-Point Backhaul, the network will enable wireless voice transmission among several buildings within the Applied Medical Rancho Santa Margarita campus. The network, which will accommodate approximately 300 users, is expected to result in monthly cost savings for Applied Medical.
Keep your eyes on this stock! In the past few weeks, the company has made numerous announcements that have detailed several new project orders, the retirement of company debt and its annual financial results for 2003 which indicated that the company believes that it has achieved several milestones that it believes will accelerate their growth.
The stock closed yesterday at $4.90 a share.
In case you are not familiar with the company: Network Installation is a total IT solutions provider which provides communication platforms for the Fortune 1000, Government Agencies, Municipalities, K-12 and Universities. These solutions include the design, installation and deployment of the infrastructure for the transmission of data, voice and video through traditional networks as well as wireless networks and Wi-Fi. Through its wholly-owned subsidiary Del Mar Systems International, Inc., the Company also provides integrated telecom solutions including Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) applications.
Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday were: Triangle Multi-media Inc. (Pink Sheets:QBID) up 80.3% on 1.5 billion shares traded, GEMZ Corp. (Pink Sheets:GMZC) even on 87 million shares traded and Spectrum Signal Process (Nasdaq:SSPI) up 121.1% on 22.2 million shares traded.
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quote:Originally posted by rajarammx: Diana, are you selling all your shares or just your daytrading shares ?
RAJ,
IF YOU CAN FIND OTHER PAGES. LOL I SOLD OUT-OUT -OUT AT .01. BOUGHT BACK TODAY AT .0135 SOLD AT .0165. BOUGHT BACK AT .0158 SOLD AT .027. BOUGHT BACK AT .019 AND .02 AND STILL HOLD THOSE SHARES.
I WANTED TO BUY HEAVY INTO CNLG TODAY AND I DID. I BOUGHT AND SOLD CNLG AND MADE 65%. I WANTED TO REPOSITION SOME FUNDS INTO LONG TERM GOALS. C-NET ASKJ AND A COUPLE OF MUTUAL FUNDS AND I DID.
CHARTS INDICATED DOWNTURN COMING IN QBID. I MISTAKENLY SAW THE 30+% AS THE TEMPERORY WINDING DOWN OF AN UPTREND IN QBID. OF COURSE I WOULD NOT HAVE SOLD ALL IF I THOUGHT IT WOULD RUN TO .029. LOL I THOUGHT IT WOULD RETRACE THIS A.M. AS I WARNED "RETRACEMENT WILL TAKE PLACE SOMETIME BECAUSE IT ALWAYS DOES." I SAW IT RETRACING BACK TO .007'S EARLY THIS A.M. AND THEN RUNNING UP. I AM REALLY HAPPY WITH MY CHOICE AS I WAS HOLDING WAY, WAY TO MUCH IN A MICRO PENNY STOCK. BUYING AND SELLING SINCE FEB.2 FROM .0001 ON AN AVERAGE OF 8 TO 20 MILLION SHARES. THAT IS WELL OVER 2 MONTHS. I STILL BOUGHT AND SOLD IT 3 TIMES TODAY. LOL JUST MISREAD THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT VERSES THE REALITY OF THE CHARTS. WHEN I BOUGHT BACK AT .019 AND .02 I CONSIDERABLY LESSENED MY HOLDING TO 3 MIL. SHARES AND LESSENED MY STRESS.
I WILL NOW WORK THOSE 3 MIL SHARES (freebies)INTO ANOTHER 15 TO 20 MILLION FREEBIES POCKETING CASH AS I GO. JUST LIKE I DID FROM .0001. QBID HAS JUST BEGUN. I HAVE ALREADY MADE LOTS OF MONEY ON QBID AND PLAN TO MAKE LOTS MORE (freebies and cash.)
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS LAUNCH.
IN THE A.M. I EXPECT A PULL BACK DUE TO NEWBIES SELLING IN A PANIC. THAT'S WHAT I ATTRIBUTE THE .0155 CLOSE TO TODAY. IT SHOULD HAVE CLOSED AROUND THE .022 TO .025 LEVEL BUT PANIC SET IN. WITH 22 DAYS TO SOFT LAUNCH THAT SHOULD RECOVER WITHIN A WEEK OR SO. HOPEFULLY LESS.
SO THOSE WHO BOUGHT HIGH TODAY. DON'T PANIC. WITH PRESS RELEASE AND SOFT LAUNCH MOVING CLOSER IT WILL RECOUP AND YOU WILL SEE A RETURN ON YOUR MONEY. IMHO.
quote:Originally posted by joeyisthebest: Thinking about useing my margin to buy sares of qbid due to the huge a@# fall at the end of close I think the next two days will be very green. I was in @.0033 watched it fall to .0015 then rocket up to todays value. want to buy a $1000 worth and see huge return will sell immiediatly to cover margin and take the free shares. Should be very easy tommorw. But what do yall think????
TO MY KNOWLEDGE PENNY STOCKS ARE UN-MARGINABLE. AT LEAST WITH SCOTTRADE AND AMERITRADE. I WOULD NEVER MARGIN PENNY STOCKS MYSELF ANYWAY. JMHO. WAY TO RISKY.
quote:Originally posted by Leeman1: Thanks for the info Tigerontop. Newbie here. I started thinking about selling and buying back but got a little nervous about being left holding the empty bag when it rockets. 150k shares. thought about buying more. Any opinions would be helpful.
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OK I was talking to my friend who lives in Denver (me, KC) about the Q. He said that he saw something about the gay channel in may it an CNN, but wasn't positive that it was the Q. It was just confirmed on RB that somebody saw it also. Any body here see it? This is no BS. I haven't posted any BS before and don't spread rumors.
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I HAD A FRIEND WHO SAW THE SAME THING BUT HE THOUGHT IT WAS A DIFFERENT COMPANY THAT WAS GOING TO BE PAY PER VIEW CALLED HERE. WILL RESEARCH LATER HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT HERE.COM
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Triangle Television Network to Launch Gay and Lesbian TV Channel By Tom Bustamante, Staff Reporter
(NEW YORK)--April 14, 2004--Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc (OTC:QBID) stock has soared on news of upcoming launch of their new TV channel focused on the gay and lesbian community.
QBID soared today on heavy volume on news of their upcoming launch of a 24 hour TV channel focuses on the gay and lesbian community. The stock has traded well over 1 billion shares today, and has been making a powerful moves from the subpenny level to a price of .02 as of 3:35pm EST.
Investors are now focused on QBID's appearance at the NCTA (The National Cable and Telecommunications Association), which hosts the industry's annual trade show, this May 2-4 in New Orleans, La. which serves as a national showcase for the cable industry's innovative services, including quality television programming, interactive television services, high-speed Internet access, and competitive local telephone service. TTN network will feature original plays, motion pictures, series and documentaries as well as sports, travel and lifestyle programming combined with live news broadcasts and specials. (join our newsletter for updates)
Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc is currently tyraded on the pink sheet exchange under the symbol QBID. QBID Overview
The Triangle Television Network (the 'Company' or 'TTN'), a wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, Inc (QBID) was organized to create and develop a network devoted to providing both television programming for the gay and lesbian community. While TTN expects much of its subscriber base will be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. TTN's programming will be provided on a subscription basis to those desiring its programming. The Triangle Television Network will broadcast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the Triangle Television Network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.
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Marketing to Reach the Gay & Lesbian Community What is the Gay Market? Gays and lesbians are sometimes elusive to quantify, but major advertisers have increasingly found that their efforts are well worth the investment to find them and for good reason. A recent study conducted by the Connecticut-based Greenfield Online, found that the average annual household income for gays and lesbians is $57,000. The New York-based Company, Spare Parts, Inc., which helps companies market to gays, estimates that the United States gay and lesbian population is between 15 million to 23 million. According to another study (Inter@ctive Week, August 30, 1999. Pg. 20.), the US gay community consists of over 19 million people with an estimated buying power of $800 billion. Worldwide, these figures are much larger.
Below is a benchmark that helps to bring this market more into focus, allowing us to compare it to other diversity niche communities in the US marketplace.
Market Population Buying Power Buying Power Per Capita African American 30 Million $535 Billion $17.8K Gay American 16.5 Million $450 Billion $27.3K Hispanic American 31 Million $383 Billion $12.4K Asian American 11 Million $229 Billion $21.0K Source: Selig Center for Economic Growth, University of Georgia
Sample Demographics Analysis From Various Gay & Lesbian Websites: (Click on links for more detailed demographics) GaySports.com - 90% Male / 10% Female GayWork.com - 70% Male / 30% Female GayWired.com - 96% Male / 4% Female ProudParenting.com - 30% Male / 70% Female Navigaytion.com - 82% Male / 18% Female LesbiaNation.com - 1% Male / 99% Female
Top Gay Regional Analysis From Various Gay & Lesbian Websites: Top Zip Codes (US) Top Counties (US) US States (Ranked 1-50)
Reaching The Gay Market: Reaching the gay market effectively means creating advertising and other marketing communications specifically directed toward their consumer mindset. In the early '90s, it was sufficient to run mainstream advertising in a gay publication to capture the attention of the market. Today, with more marketers vying for the gay consumer dollar, the bar has been raised. Gay consumers now expect advertisers to address them for who they are, directly and openly. In focus groups nationally, gay men and lesbians express a definite preference for advertising that specifically reflects their mindset and sensibilities.
Rarely can gay marketing efforts rely on traditional advertising alone. Extending your reach among this audience requires understanding the community infrastructure available to access them. The result is often a sophisticated mix of advertising, direct marketing, community presence and Internet promotions.
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Well, thats true but there is a way around that. Not that I would on a penny stock but example. If you have $5000.00 in a margin account and you have used $5000.00 in cash to buy stocks you can still buy a OTC or pink as long as you have another stock that is not a penny stock example say LU $1000.00 worth. The Margin is acually applied to LU not the OTC.
But still wouldn't do it after this great run.
Ric
Originally posted by joeyisthebest: Thinking about useing my margin to buy sares of qbid due to the huge a@# fall at the end of close I think the next two days will be very green. I was in @.0033 watched it fall to .0015 then rocket up to todays value. want to buy a $1000 worth and see huge return will sell immiediatly to cover margin and take the free shares. Should be very easy tommorw. But what do yall think????
quote:Originally posted by realityinc21: TO MY KNOWLEDGE PENNY STOCKS ARE UN-MARGINABLE. AT LEAST WITH SCOTTRADE AND AMERITRADE. I WOULD NEVER MARGIN PENNY STOCKS MYSELF ANYWAY. JMHO. WAY TO RISKY.
SO THE STOCK IS REALLY UP 15,500% FROM 7 WEEKS AGO AND THE MOANS AND GROANS EVERYWHERE. MY PORTFOLIO IS DOWN $60,000 FROM THAT .027 AND I COULDN'T BE MORE HAPPY!
I'M PICTURING IF SOME OF YOU DO ACTUALLY HOLD OUT TILL SAY .65 AND THEN IT DROPS TO .29 BEFORE IT GOES UP THROUGH $1.00; WHAT WILL THEY SAY THEN? MAKE ME CHUCKLE!
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OK SMART ASS SUB RETRACE WITH PROFIT TAKING
quote:Originally posted by U4TSAF2: WHAT RE-TRACE?
MY QBID IS UP 54% TODAY. 80 OR 90% YESTERDAY.
SO THE STOCK IS REALLY UP 15,500% FROM 7 WEEKS AGO AND THE MOANS AND GROANS EVERYWHERE. MY PORTFOLIO IS DOWN $60,000 FROM THAT .027 AND I COULDN'T BE MORE HAPPY!
I'M PICTURING IF SOME OF YOU DO ACTUALLY HOLD OUT TILL SAY .65 AND THEN IT DROPS TO .29 BEFORE IT GOES UP THROUGH $1.00; WHAT WILL THEY SAY THEN? MAKE ME CHUCKLE!
Tombstone, I did not hear them state QBID, but I did hear Triangle Multi-media. I caught the tail end of the piece which was also covering the temporary shut down of Al Frankkens "Air America" by the Multi-Cultural Broadcasting company due to lack of payments.
I was just walking into my hotel room when I flicked on the set. Definitely was about QBID, but did not list the call letters. They said that the channel would be covering Gay & Lesbian programming and would launch with a major series starring a lesbian leading lady.
As everyone knows, CNN Headlines News jsut keeps repeating, so it will be on later (many times).LOL
Would not doubt as some have said that this is what spurred part of today's run. Certainly beleive that it will gap up tomorrow.
IF YOU CAN FIND OTHER PAGES. LOL I SOLD OUT-OUT -OUT AT .01. BOUGHT BACK TODAY AT .0135 SOLD AT .0165. BOUGHT BACK AT .0158 SOLD AT .027. BOUGHT BACK AT .019 AND .02 AND STILL HOLD THOSE SHARES.
I WANTED TO BUY HEAVY INTO CNLG TODAY AND I DID. I BOUGHT AND SOLD CNLG AND MADE 65%. I WANTED TO REPOSITION SOME FUNDS INTO LONG TERM GOALS. C-NET ASKJ AND A COUPLE OF MUTUAL FUNDS AND I DID.
CHARTS INDICATED DOWNTURN COMING IN QBID. I MISTAKENLY SAW THE 30+% AS THE TEMPERORY WINDING DOWN OF AN UPTREND IN QBID. OF COURSE I WOULD NOT HAVE SOLD ALL IF I THOUGHT IT WOULD RUN TO .029. LOL I THOUGHT IT WOULD RETRACE THIS A.M. AS I WARNED "RETRACEMENT WILL TAKE PLACE SOMETIME BECAUSE IT ALWAYS DOES." I SAW IT RETRACING BACK TO .007'S EARLY THIS A.M. AND THEN RUNNING UP. I AM REALLY HAPPY WITH MY CHOICE AS I WAS HOLDING WAY, WAY TO MUCH IN A MICRO PENNY STOCK. BUYING AND SELLING SINCE FEB.2 FROM .0001 ON AN AVERAGE OF 8 TO 20 MILLION SHARES. THAT IS WELL OVER 2 MONTHS. I STILL BOUGHT AND SOLD IT 3 TIMES TODAY. LOL JUST MISREAD THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT VERSES THE REALITY OF THE CHARTS. WHEN I BOUGHT BACK AT .019 AND .02 I CONSIDERABLY LESSENED MY HOLDING TO 3 MIL. SHARES AND LESSENED MY STRESS.
I WILL NOW WORK THOSE 3 MIL SHARES (freebies)INTO ANOTHER 15 TO 20 MILLION FREEBIES POCKETING CASH AS I GO. JUST LIKE I DID FROM .0001. QBID HAS JUST BEGUN. I HAVE ALREADY MADE LOTS OF MONEY ON QBID AND PLAN TO MAKE LOTS MORE (freebies and cash.)
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS LAUNCH.
IN THE A.M. I EXPECT A PULL BACK DUE TO NEWBIES SELLING IN A PANIC. THAT'S WHAT I ATTRIBUTE THE .0155 CLOSE TO TODAY. IT SHOULD HAVE CLOSED AROUND THE .022 TO .025 LEVEL BUT PANIC SET IN. WITH 22 DAYS TO SOFT LAUNCH THAT SHOULD RECOVER WITHIN A WEEK OR SO. HOPEFULLY LESS.
SO THOSE WHO BOUGHT HIGH TODAY. DON'T PANIC. WITH PRESS RELEASE AND SOFT LAUNCH MOVING CLOSER IT WILL RECOUP AND YOU WILL SEE A RETURN ON YOUR MONEY. IMHO.
What trading service do you use. I'm afraid to sell because if my funds aren't available for three days, I might miss out on something good. I use Ameritrade. Their fees are good but their response time sucks...
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I heard that as well. It might gap in the morning when most realize the retrace in the afternoon was a panic sale by lot of weak hands. The swing traders and longs will be scooping up shares in the morning. Like Diana said it should have closed aroung .022-.025 today. We will atleast make that up or I am betting .03-.035 by days end. JMHO!
quote:Originally posted by John Galt's Abnormal Twin: THIS IS BIG.
From the RB. A couple people say they saw it.
Tombstone, I did not hear them state QBID, but I did hear Triangle Multi-media. I caught the tail end of the piece which was also covering the temporary shut down of Al Frankkens "Air America" by the Multi-Cultural Broadcasting company due to lack of payments.
I was just walking into my hotel room when I flicked on the set. Definitely was about QBID, but did not list the call letters. They said that the channel would be covering Gay & Lesbian programming and would launch with a major series starring a lesbian leading lady.
As everyone knows, CNN Headlines News jsut keeps repeating, so it will be on later (many times).LOL
Would not doubt as some have said that this is what spurred part of today's run. Certainly beleive that it will gap up tomorrow.
quote:Originally posted by U4TSAF2: WE'VE ALREADY HAVE 4 R/S SO PLEASE RG, LET'S NOT GET PEOPLE SCARED.
PLEASE!....I'm not trying to be a d!(k, but can we all stop these sarcastic comments?! Please??
They may be hurting us. I've noticed today and yesterday that there are newbies coming on this thread. If you keep posting stuff like "This won't hit 0.03 without a R/S" it's got the potential to scare off some people.
I like to joke around too, but this is getting old. Some newbies actually questioned a r/s a few pages back if i'm not mistaken. These sarcastic remarks may be mistaken as fact by people who are lurking around these threads.
Boldly stated by CEO of QBID, Frank Olsen: "as long I am associated with the company, NO roll back or split will take place"
A GLBT-themed pay-per-view (PPV) television service currently available via satellite has announced it will launch 24-hour premium programming on Oct. 1.
The service, here! TV, will extend its offerings beyond the current three to six pay-per-view selections per month and launch a full schedule of new original series, classic films and television programming.
Starting in October, here! TV will be available to satellite TV subscribers, digital cable users and analog cable customers. As part of the deal, cable and satellite operators will be able to offer their customers individual program PPV service, four-hour blocks of programming or the full network -- all for an additional fee over the cost of basic service.
The service will also launch a subscription video-on-demand service on June 1, which will let viewers buy all 30 hours of the service's programming PPV selections per month in a discounted package. As part of the launch announcement, here! TV also announced it had made deals with TLA Releasing, Wolfe Video, Strand Releasing and Regent Worldwide Sales to show more than 200 GLBT-related films.
Paul Colichman, here! TV president and chairman of Regent Entertainment, said, "We've acquired lots of library product, but that's just a part of our story."
The channel will also air original programming, including "Dante's Cove," a gay and lesbian gothic horror series, and "Weapons of Mass Destruction," a spy drama featuring martial artist Cynthia Rothrock.
The here! TV announcement comes almost two years after big announcements were made concerning at least three separate GLBT-themed channels for the United States. One was the Canadian-based service Pridevision, which announced it was going to establish U.S. studios in heavily gay neighborhoods and produce original programming. The service never got off the ground outside Canada.
"When they didn't deliver I had to work three times as hard," Colichman said. "It made everyone careful and suspicious of the niche." To get around the hesitancy, Colichman launched the PPV service first, which is currently available via satellite.
The other main proposed cable channel, said to be called Outlet, remains in development at media giant Viacom. The Wall Street Journal reported in March that Viacom Chairman Sumner Redstone recently admitted that, after seeing the success of shows like "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," he regretted not putting the forthcoming network on a faster track.
Meanwhile, Pridevision reportedly signed a distribution deal with Time Warner Cable last year to be up and running in the United States by the end of 2004.
Colichman said he didn't fear competition.
"I believe our community deserves many channels," he said. "We want to support them."
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Definitely a great day for QBID and for those who "let the sack drop" and held on!! Still holding 5MM.....and up 50 something percent again today!!!!!!!!!
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Been watching and reading for quite awile and learned alot. also making qbid top dog watch with my large investment at .003 and here is something I found.
By Joseph Ascenzi, The Business Press, San Bernardino, Calif. Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News
Feb. 9--A Palm Springs media company that specializes in programming for gays and lesbians will launch a cable television network.
The Triangle Television Network, a wholly owned subsidiary of Triangle Multi-Media Limited, will begin broadcasting within 90 days, Chief Executive Officer Frank Olsen said Feb. 4.
TTN, as the network will be known, will be available to about 10,000 cable television companies throughout the United States and Puerto Rico for $2 a month for each subscriber, Olsen said.
Time Warner Cable television has agreed to make the signal available to any of its local system operators that want to broadcast it, Olsen said. ...
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ok, We need one more contributor for the New Orleans trip.
Also, We need 3 contributors for a digital camera that I can sneak in.
Also, I am sure, we will get another contributor. BUT, the info will be posted for all to view and know. We here are like family. Some the Parents and Some the Kids(U4). But I am not withholding any info from anyone, its all game now people.
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