Gay Web Sites In The Black

SAN FRANCISCO, June 6, 2003

Gays and lesbians tend to be particularly active Internet users and more comfortable than heterosexuals with shopping and dating online. (Photo: CBS/AP)

With backing from J.P. Morgan, Flatiron Partners and America Online, as well as advertising from dozens of Fortune 500 companies, PlanetOut dominates its niche in a way any high-tech entrepreneur would envy.

(AP) At the height of the dot-com boom, Lowell Selvin ran an Internet company with a Web site boasting 2.5 million registered users — an audience surveys showed was both trendsetting and unusually loyal.

Yet as often as not, Selvin came away empty-handed in meetings with potential investors. Many venture capitalists just weren't ready to stake money on Gay.com.

“We got calls from analysts and reviewers saying 'Your metrics are incredible, but there were one or two partners in the room who were fearful, homophobic, or whatever and made the decision not to invest,”' he recalled.

Four years later, successor firm PlanetOut Partners has grown to four gay- and lesbian-oriented sites and just posted its first profitable quarter. With backing from J.P. Morgan, Flatiron Partners and America Online, as well as advertising from dozens of Fortune 500 companies, the company dominates its niche in a way any high-tech entrepreneur would envy.

Still small by corporate standards — last year, it had revenues of $14 million, with first-quarter earnings of $103,000 equal to what Wal-Mart makes every seven minutes — PlanetOut's success is about more than dollars, backers say.

It has created a business both gay enough for San Francisco and buttoned-down enough for Wall Street.

“These folks at PlanetOut didn't get into this business to become overnight millionaires,” said Jerry Colonna, a J.P. Morgan partner who sits on PlanetOut's board of directors and was its first major investor. “They did it because of a deep and abiding passion for creating a successful gay-owned business — and proving that being gay-owned doesn't necessarily mean not successful.”

Headquartered in San Francisco's Financial District, in corporate digs that once housed The Gap's online division, PlanetOut Partners is the result of Gay.com's 1999 acquisition of competitor PlanetOut.com. At the time, Gay.com was known primarily for its chat rooms, while PlanetOut carried more original content.

Today, both sites still have their own personalities - Gay.com is the saucy “Queer As Folk” to PlanetOut's more sentimental “Will and Grace” — but offer a similar mix of news, online matchmaking, health and financial advice. Thanks to the acquisitions of OutandAbout.com and Kleptomaniac.com, the sites also offer information about gay-friendly travel destinations and merchandise such as muscle T-shirts, condoms, and DVD's.

The company owes its status partly to the fact that gays and lesbians tend to be particularly active Internet users and more comfortable than heterosexuals with shopping and dating online.

“The draw for me was that it was a way to get 'out' in the community without really risking anything,” said Suzanne Armstrong, 33, a PlanetOut.com member from the Canadian city of Calgary who uses the site to meet other women and to get the latest gay news. “It's generally expected that if I am a woman, then I should be looking for a man. So how do you approach someone who you have never met and find out what their sexual preference is without getting beat up?"

The company's two principal sites have 6.9 million registered members, numbers Selvin says make PlanetOut the world's largest media company serving the gay and lesbian market. With its reach and specialized audience, the company has more in common with broadcasters like Black Entertainment Television or Spanish-language network Telemundo than fellow Internet portals like women-oriented iVillage or the now defunct Third Age, which targeted seniors, says Chief Financial Officer Jeff Soukup.

The comparison apparently hasn't been lost on Planet Out's advertisers, which include major corporations ranging from Sears and Nieman Marcus to American Airlines and Visa.

“The fact is they have brought together more people from the community than any other medium to date has,” said Mike Wilke, executive director of Commercial Closet Association, a group that monitors gay-oriented advertising. The three largest gay magazines, The Advocate, Out and Girlfriends, magazines, have combined circulation of about 300,000.

The popularity of its dating services helped shield PlanetOut when advertisers slashed their spending, something that spelled death for many Internet startups.

Today, 60 percent of its revenue comes from a subscription-based personals service, launched two years ago, that allows prospective daters to check out each other's profiles and chat.

With revenues projected to hit $24 million this year and expenses holding steady, Selvin is deciding whether it's time to take PlanetOut public. He says it's been great bringing the company into the black, but even more gratifying when conferences seek him out as an expert on online business, instead of CEO of a gay-owned and gay-led business.

“What we do on behalf of the gay and lesbian community is business activism,” Selvin said.

Sometimes, he runs into representatives of venture capital firms that decided not to invest in Gay.com early on. He smiles politely, but feels vindicated when they tell him, “Out of all our possible portfolio companies, I wish we had invested in you.”

By Charles Masters
Pictured: Germany's ratings hit "Turbulent Men"
PARIS -- The story already has become legend: When "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" premiered in the United States on cable network Bravo, the makeover series seemed very of-the-moment, a logical follow-up to the success of hit series like NBC's "Will & Grace," which helped bring gay culture to the mainstream. "Queer Eye" became a hit, the Fab Five became superstars, and (to borrow a phrase from the fashion world) gay became the new straight.

The phenomenon is not confined to North America, though. "Queer Eye" has been adapted for European territories including Britain and Germany; Italy has taken the concept even further with an entire network, Gay TV, airing since May 2002. And there is more on the way: In little more than a month, Europe's first gay pay channel, Pink TV, will bow in France.

While the cultural implications are great, so, too, is the potential for profit. The launch is a litmus test of how attitudes and appetites are changing, but it also serves as an indication that broadcasters and advertisers are prepared to view the gay community as a market segment in its own right -- and a potentially lucrative one at that.

While the longevity of channels like Pink TV and the free-to-air Italian Gay.TV remains to be seen, at the moment they represent a breakthrough for gay audiences.

Beyond that, the heightened hip quotient that has accompanied shows such as "Queer Eye" have made a "dash of gayness" appealing across a wide swath of programming.

Indeed, Pink TV founder Pascal Houzelot anticipates that "the audience is wider than gay only, with a strong minority of non-gay viewers."

Houzelot, who has been nursing the idea of a gay channel for four years, explains the timing as "a combination of a moment in the evolution of both the social situation in France and the television landscape. All over the world, there has been the same evolution at roughly the same time. Ten years ago, homophobia was commonplace and socially acceptable; now, thank God, it's rare and socially unacceptable."

Houzelot, a movie producer whose credits include a Gallic adaptation of the British sitcom "Absolutely Fabulous," pinpoints a precise turning point in attitudes in France: the introduction three years ago of "same-sex marriages," known as the Pacte Civil de Solidarite (PACS). "The visibility of the gay population is now sufficiently high to allow a dedicated channel," he says.

Although no scientifically accepted statistics exist that quantify the gay population in Europe, one organization, the U.K. branch of the gay rights organization Stonewall, estimates the gay population in that territory as anywhere between .2% and 12%.

Mediametrie, France's equivalent to Nielsen, has attempted to quantify who's watching these channels with its MediaCabSat audience research survey for thematic channels. Its surveys have found that fees paid by cable and satellite operators for certain niche channels are falling. "This made me think there is room for an upmarket mini pay TV," Houzelot says.

Pink TV goes on air mid-January and will be available 24 hours a day on French satellite and cable platforms. The subscription is €9 (about $10) a month, and the channel is aiming for about 180,000 subscribers by its third year. "The audience is wider than gay-only, with a strong minority of nongay viewers," Houzelot predicts.

The channel will feature a magazine program on political and social issues produced by Michel Field, a popular presenter on mainstream television. In a move designed for broad appeal, news anchor Claire Chazal, from one of France's largest TV stations TF1, will host a cultural show.

But programming will not be exclusively gay. "We're not going to show subscribers gays -- but give them what they want to see," Houzelot says. "We might do a themed evening on Brad Pitt, who's not as far as we know gay but is of interest to gays."

Pink TV will also feature four hours of X-rated programming a day -- a detail which meant the channel took nine months to obtain its broadcast authorization, compared to the usual one month.

Pink TV has an annual budget in the region of $12 million. In a sign of the growing interest mainstream broadcasters have for the gay market, Houzelot has succeeded in bringing on board France's three main commercial broadcast groups, Canal Plus, TF1 and M6, all of whom he describes as "significant shareholders."

It's unclear whether Pink TV will hit the numbers it's hoping for, but the gay channel's launch has already won political approval. "I'm very pleased to see this," says Jean-Jacques Aillagon, French culture and communications minister, and the country's first openly-gay minister. "The good thing is it's clearly conceived as a channel aiming for a wider audience. That's an extremely intelligent initiative, and in the current audiovisual landscape, I think it could be a tonic."

In Italy, Gay.TV, which depends solely on advertising for revenue, is not finding the going easy. "Italian advertisers don't seem to be ready to invest in the gay market," channel director Francesco Italia says.

Owned by Dutch investor Corill, Gay.TV claims an impressive 500,000 viewers a day. The 24-hour satellite channel has the modest budget of €3 million ($3.58 million) for its first three years.

Programming is comprised of gay-issue shows, talk shows, game shows and some imported gay-themed drama including "Queer as Folk." Gaps in the schedule are filled with music videos.

Outside of dedicated channels, European TV executives are increasingly turning to gay culture for fresh programming ideas. Talkback Thames TV's head of factual entertainment Ruth Wrigley is developing a trio of gay-themed programs. The most serious is a Channel 4 program about the evolution of the male and what it is to be a man today.

"The starting point was (that) it's really scary being a bloke today," Wrigley recalls. "What came out of it was the idea of being just gay enough. We started to talk about 'gaydar' (and) what girls think about a bloke's (sexual orientation). That's the sort of zeitgeist; being just gay enough often gets (men) a date."

Talkback Thames is also developing "Spot the Gay," a game show pitched to Channel 5. "If you guess (which of the guests) is gay, you win a prize. If the contestant fools you, they win a prize," Wrigley explains. "It needs to be fun; it needs to be funny. But it needs to be clever so you learn something about what it means to be gay."

Another game concept from Talkback Thames is "Dire Straights," a makeover show in which girlfriends get gay consultants to help them re-style their boyfriends. "Female makeover shows have been done to death; this is a good way to tackle a male version. I don't want to attract a particularly gay audience, but it'll probably be female skewed," says Wrigley, who warns that a pinch of gay doesn't work across the board. "The big mainstream terrestrial networks like ITV still have an older audience who might not be as open. The 16-34 age group is what you're after because they get it."

Adventure Line Prods., a division of France's StudioCanal that specializes in game shows, is developing a format called "Gay Stars," a sort of "Pop Idol" that sets out to create a band modeled on gay icons the Village People.

"In the gay community, especially in show business and music, you find some extremely extroverted people," Adventure Line president Denis Mermet says. "But it's miles from the universe of 'La Cage aux Folles' with that excessive image (of gays)."

Adventure Line's goal is to sell "Gay Stars" to a U.S. network. The William Morris Agency signed to represent the show during the recent MIPCOM TV market in Cannes, and Adventure Line executives are due in Los Angeles next month to meet with potential producers. "The pitch was so strong (WMA) went for it straight away," Mermet notes. "The U.S. will probably be the first country to produce the show."

Traditionally, Germany has had a liberal and open attitude towards homosexuality and its television reflects that with gay-themed shows across the dial. Munich-based production house Tresor TV has adapted "Queer Eye" for RTL2 and is developing other gay formats for the channel. Berlin-based Sat.1 has renewed "Bewegte Manner"

(Turbulent Men), the series adaptation of the 1994 German boxoffice hit "Der Bewegte Mann" ("Maybe, Maybe Not") about a straight, macho guy and his gay roommates. The sitcom, which debuted this year, was nominated for the German TV Prize's comedy section, the local equivalent to the Emmys.

While it might not appeal to older segments of the audience, the "gay touch" in an otherwise mainstream show seems to be the magic ingredient many European programmakers are seeking. "I don't call 'Queer Eye' a gay show," says Alan Boyd, Fremantle Media Prods. president worldwide entertainment. "It's tapping into a certain culture, but the interest is the twist in somebody's view."

Boyd says the interesting market as a mainstream producer is the so-called "metrosexual": non-gay males who are tidy, fashionable and wear the right after-shave. "There's no wide appeal in boy-meets-boy formulas," he says. "I'm not going to do gay blind date (show)."

The appeal for the hetero audience appears to be in the image of all gays as stylish urban professionals who have well-paid jobs and spend their disposable incomes on high fashion, travel and exotic nightlife -- a lifestyle many humdrum straights might covet."I have five children; my money gets spent on me last. If I was single, I'd only wear Gucci," Wrigley says.

"Straight people (who) want to think that they're hip now borrow from gay culture -- just as white people who want to be a little more funky often dip into black culture," adds Andy Medhurst, a media studies lecturer at the University of Sussex.

So does the gay wave on European television mean attitudes are really more enlightened, or is it just another cynical exercise in finding the next hot market? Both, according to Medhurst: "It's too puritanical to say it's just about making money from a new market. Yes, it's exploitative; yes it's about selling superfluous, fluffy programming," he says. "But it has to be an advance on 30 years ago when there was probably only one non-heterosexual character a week on television."

Scott Roxborough in Germany contributed to this report.

Published Nov. 25, 2003

Though I must admit that that between Mr. Redstone & myself we haven't been able to locate a broadcasting TV Network that trades under a dollar. Kind of makes me wonder what our pps will look like in the middle of May!

I am going to the May 3 (Monday show and all day seminar) at NCTA for QBID and the ALLSTOCK QBID/TEAM. Be a part of the team and help yourself and others.

thanks,
chuck

P.S. If I end up with some spare change before the trip. I will try and stop by and pick up one of those small digital camera's that is not so noticeable. I can sneak a couple shots off of the booth and whomever is in it.

In case i didn't say so before thank you very much for stopping in the QBID offices, talking with Frank & letting us know how it went. That post was very encouraging.

So again, Thank You!

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Originally posted by rayman:
I know it is probably in the threads somewhere but i am just going to ask. Does anyone know what company is going to carry this station? Comcast, time warner? And should i buy in at this point in the game or is it too late. thx for help

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IF YOU GO TO THE VERY 1ST POST ON THIS THREAD IT WILL TELL YOU EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY THING YOU EVER WOULD WANT TO KNOW ABOUT QBID. THE ANSWER IS TIME WARNER.

SORRY, NO ONE HERE CAN TELL YOU WHEN TO BUY OR SELL. STILL HAVE MY CRYSTAL BALL IN THE PAWN SHOP. READ THE 1ST POST AND IT WILL GIVE YOU LINKS TO ALL THE OTHER THREADS SINCE QBID WAS .0001. THAT SHOULD HELP WITH BUY OR SELL DECISIONS. GOOD LUCK TRADING.

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Originally posted by mondayschild:
Look who's a major investor of gay days. This bud's for you.

http://gaydays.com

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JANIE,

ALL I CAN SAY IS UNBELIEVABLE. YOU ARE ONE WEB SURFING, INFORMATIONAL FINDING GENIUS.

WHEN YOU POST--WOULD YOU PLEASE ALSO PUT THE WEB SITE ALSO. EASIER FOR ME TO ADD INTO THE 1ST POST ON THE THREAD TO KEEP UPDATED FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO E-MAIL OUT TO OTHER TRADERS OR OTHER STOCK BOARDS.

AGAIN--GREAT JOB. JUST AGAIN CONFIRMS THAT THE TIME IS RIGHT.

THIS BUD'S FOR YOU GIRL!! LOL

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Originally posted by darogo:
damn, couldn't take it anymore. i just put in an order to buy more @ .0060. please tell me i'm not insane....

i mean, if pre-launch the last couple times the stock almost hit a buck, surely we can get to 1 cent or 5 cents, right?

especially if it's on track to launch on time this time!!

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DARGO,

THIS MAKES ME LAUGH! I REMEMBER WHEN IT DROPPED TO .001 HIPPO AND SLIM SHADY, DOJI, DZ AND I AND A FEW OTHERS HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION. WE JUST SAID--WELL I GUESS WE WILL BUY MORE AND WE DID AND HERE WE STILL ARE. I STILL HOLD 13 MILLON FREEBIES FROM .0001. ALSO HAVE BOUGHT AND SOLD MANY TIMES 2 TO 4 MILLON SHARES AT LOWS AND SOLD AT HIGHS TO BUY OTHER STOCKS OR JUST FOR CASH. NO--YOU ARE NOT CRAZY..YOU ARE JUST THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX. BE CAREFUL TO NOT BUY TO HIGH. STOCKS ALWAYS RETRACE. THIS ONE WILL BE NO DIFFERENT. IMHO I KNOW I HAVE MADE THAT MISTAKE MYSELF A FEW TIMES AND HAD TO WAIT TILL THE STOCK CAUGHT BACK UP TO MY BUY PRICE. NOT A PRETTY PICTURE. WE ALL HAVE ONE OF THOSE STORIES TO TELL. LOL

GOOD LUCK TRADING..

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DIANA

i find it very interesting that the stock would jump so much with no news. my only explanation is that people are catching on and if they really do launch on time, this thing is gonna fly. hopefully a "soft launch" is enough to get the media's attention.

yeah, i should wait for the re-trace. thanks. i hate chasing these things.

I HADNT TALKED TO IN A WHILE, I SEE YOUR
KEEPING BUSY.
THE MAIN THING I KEEP GOING OVER IN MY HEAD
IS A COUPLE YRS AGO WHEN IT HIT .48 WE DID
NOT HAVE SHOWS LIKE WILL AND GRACE AND QUEER
EYE ON THE AIR.
THESE SHOWS HAVE PAVED THE WAY FOR QBID AND
WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT TIME NOW.
I MAY SELL A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND SHARES
WHEN THIS PUPPY GETS TO .50 OR SO.
BUT I WILL KEEP AT LEAST 200,000 SHARES
FOR A LONG LONG TIME.
AND I COULDNT AGREE MORE ABOUT TAKING YOUR
MONEY OUT AND RIDING FREE, I WOULD SAY
TO NEWBIES THAT IS THE NUMBER 1 LESSON
I HAVE LEARNED.
LETS GO , QBID. TAKE US ALL TO THE BANK.

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Subject: More than 24 Cities to Join Marriage Rights Protests on Tax Day!

"TAX us? Then MARRY us!"

Highlighting the fact that marriage is a civil contract issued by the government which should be available to all consenting adults, more than 24 cities will be demonstrating for equal marriage rights at post offices around the country on Tax Day, Thursday, April 15th. "No Taxation with Discrimination" is the central theme for the day. A list of the cities organizing protests and the locations and times of the protests is at the bottom of this message.

Those who want to support the protests are encouraged to go to the DontAmend.com website to download posters and flyers and help spread the word in their cities. Those interested in organizing an event in their city are encouraged to send a message to RTDontAmend@aol.com right away, including your name, telephone number(s) and the city you live in or near.

The National Tax Day protests were called by DontAmend.com as a warm up to a larger national day of actions that DontAmend.com has called for May 17, the day the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (MSJC) has ordered that state to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

The aim of the protests is to mobilize our community and allies so as to create the political climate necessary so that the fantastic MSJC decision will actually be IMPLEMENTED. In 1954, 50 years ago on May 17th, the U.S. Supreme Court issued its landmark Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas decision outlawing segregation. That great decision remained but a piece of paper for several years because there was not a large movement which could FORCE the government to put its words into practice. It was only when the Civil Rights Movement was much larger and stronger, in the early 1960s, that segregation began to crumble.

Today there is a huge danger that the great MSJC decision will, like the 1954 Brown decision, be in effect nullified by bigots in both parties of Massachusetts state government. Within Massachusetts, it is critical that our movement is loudly and vocally DEMANDING equality in the law actually be implemented on May 17th. Outside of Massachusetts, it is critical that our movement demand that same equality in OUR local areas, and that we loudly express our solidarity with pro-equality activists in Massachusetts, and against the bigots who are attempting to nullify the fantastic decisions of the MSJC.

What we do, or don't do, in the next few weeks could very well determine which way our struggle will go. Either forward to full legal equality, or backwards into increased gay-bashing and discrmination.

On April 15th and May 17th, please help make history by demanding that the politicians of all parties begin treating us as equal human beings.

All the best,

Robin Tyler
National Co-Chair, DontAmend.com

Andy Thayer
National Action Coordinator, DontAmend.com

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Here is the current list of cities planning actions on Tax Day, April 15th:

Atlanta
4:30 pm
Pharr Road Post Office, Atlanta
(near the intersection of Pharr Road and Piedmont Road)
Info: atlantadontamend@aol.com

Bakersfield, CA
5 pm til ?
Main Post Office
3400 Pegasus Drive, Bakersfield, CA
Info: call 661-835-3545 or e-mail bakersfield@marriageequalityca.org

Bisbee, AZ
4 pm
Cooper Queen Station Post Office
Main Street, Bisbee, AZ
Info: jbengel80@yahoo.com

Boston, MA
5:30 pm
Fort Point Post Office (behind South Station)
Boston, MA
Info: dontamendmass@cemarion.com

Chicago, IL
5:30 pm
Main Post Office
433 W. Harrison Street (just west of the Chicago River)
Sponsored by Equal Marriage NOW!
Info: questions@equalmarriagenow.org or phone 773-243-2576

College Station, TX
4 pm
College Station Main Post Office
2130 Harvey Mitchell Pkwy S, College Station, TX
Info: faithbiwerks@yahoo.com

Davis, CA
11:30 am - 1 pm and 3 - 4 pm
Davis Post Office
(corner Poleline and Fifth Streets)
Info: yolo@MarriageEqualityCA.org

Duluth, MN
Details to be announced
Info: anichols@d.umn.edu

Indianapolis, IN
5-7 pm
Indianapolis Main Post Office
125 W. South Street, Indianapolis
(southwest corner of South Street & S. Capitol Ave)
Info: Indy@DontAmend.com

Kansas City, MO
5:30 pm
Main Post Office
315 W Pershing Rd, Kansas City, MO
Info: dontamendKC@hotmail.com

Los Angeles
5:30 pm
15701 Sherman Way & Haskell (off the 405 freeway)
Contact: Robin Tyler, National Co Chair, rtdontamend@aol.com
Co-sponsored by DontAmend.com, Metropolitan Community Churches, Marriage Equality California (MECA), California Freedom to Marry, Southern California Women for Understanding

New York, NY
6 pm
Steps of James A. Farley Post Office
421 Eighth Avenue
(between 31st & 32nd Streets)
Info: rzacchi@marriageequalityny.org

Northern Los Angeles County
5:30 pm
43824 20th Street West (corner of 20th & J-12)
Lancaster, CA Post Office
Info: AntelopeValley@DontAmend.com

Palm Springs, CA
6 pm, meet at the Desert Pride Center
March starts at 6:30 PM
March from the Pride Center to Village Fest
Bring banners, signs and your best loud voice!
Info: info@equal-protection.org and www.equal-protection.org <http://www.equal-protection.org/>

Philadelphia, PA
5:30 pm
30th Street Station Post Office
(2970 Market St)
Phlildelphia, PA
Info: dontamendphilly@hotmail.com

Reno, NV
5:30 pm
Main Post Office
2000 Vassar Street, Reno, NV
Info: Angela34Brooks@hotmail.com

Sacramento, CA
9 pm - 12 midnight
Main Post Office
2000 Royal Oaks Drive, Sacramento
Info: sacramento@marriageequalityca.org

San Diego, CA
San Diegans Against Marriage Discrimination, The San Diego LGBT Community Center and Equality California are hosting a press conference at 10:30 PM at the Midway Post Office (Midway Drive in Point Loma). Info: AJ Davis 619.692.2077, ext 212 or adavis@thecentersd.org.

San Francisco/Oakland CA
Details to be announced
mmckay@marriageequalityca.org

Sarasota, FL
4:30 - 7:30 pm
Main Post Office
1661 Ringling Blvd
Sponsored by the United Federation of Metropolitan Community Churches
Info: nbirder@aol.com

Seattle, WA
5:30 pm, Main Seattle Post Office
301 Union Street (3rd Ave & Union)
Downtown Seattle
Info: SeaWADontAmend@aol.com

Spokane, WA
5:30 pm
The Garland Post Office
1903 W. Garland, Spokane
Info: Ballantz@cs.com

Tallahassee, FL
Details to be announced

Tampa Bay, FL
5:30 pm
Main Tampa Bay Post Office
(located at the airport)
Tampa, FL
Info: dontamend@tampabay.rr.com

Don't see your city listed? Want to organize a protest there? Send a message to RTDontAmend@aol.com right away, including your name, telephone number(s) and the city (please include state) you live in or near.

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Originally posted by al68:
HEY DIANA .

I HADNT TALKED TO IN A WHILE, I SEE YOUR
KEEPING BUSY.
THE MAIN THING I KEEP GOING OVER IN MY HEAD
IS A COUPLE YRS AGO WHEN IT HIT .48 WE DID
NOT HAVE SHOWS LIKE WILL AND GRACE AND QUEER
EYE ON THE AIR.
THESE SHOWS HAVE PAVED THE WAY FOR QBID AND
WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT TIME NOW.
I MAY SELL A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND SHARES
WHEN THIS PUPPY GETS TO .50 OR SO.
BUT I WILL KEEP AT LEAST 200,000 SHARES
FOR A LONG LONG TIME.
AND I COULDNT AGREE MORE ABOUT TAKING YOUR
MONEY OUT AND RIDING FREE, I WOULD SAY
TO NEWBIES THAT IS THE NUMBER 1 LESSON
I HAVE LEARNED.
LETS GO , QBID. TAKE US ALL TO THE BANK.

AL

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HI AL,

IT HAS BEEN A WHILE. GLAD YOU ARE IN QBID. JUST WANTED TO REPOST THE LOCATION OF THE BOOTH AT THE NATIONAL CONVENTION. YOU ARE GREAT FOR DD. WE NEED ALL THE HANDS WE CAN GET. LOL WE HAD LOTS OF LAUGHS TOO. MORE IMPORTANTLY WE MADE SOME MONEY. YEEE HAAA

Looks like QBID's the Q-Channel now has the WWF WRESTLING-Biggest Wrestling Federation in the WORLD, TEXAS INSTRAMENT, HBO AND COURT T.V. all around the QBID-Q-Channel Cable Convention booth. RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE.
This will mean even more great exposure for QBID with thousands of people going past the Q-Channel Booth. I AM IMPRESSED.

LOOK at this:
Go to the following Convention web site then look to your right side
you will see a Box saying Exhibitor list scroll down this list till
you get to our Q-Channel, then Click it, you will then see just where the QBID Q-Channel booth is RIGHT AT THE ENTERANCE. Great
location, everyone that goes to this convention MUST pass the QBID BOOTH. Put your cursor on each booth and it will tell you who it is! http://www.thenationalshow.com/ncta2004...MapID=1&Di

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Originally posted by darogo:
haha,
i keep envisioning this thing taking off the closer they get to launch and i want more!!
13 million! whew! i'm pretty new to the pennies and qbid is actually the 1st stock i bought and sold successfully to get the free shares. boy my 250,000 pales in comparison, eh? still, it's enough to fly me to vegas!!!

i find it very interesting that the stock would jump so much with no news. my only explanation is that people are catching on and if they really do launch on time, this thing is gonna fly. hopefully a "soft launch" is enough to get the media's attention.

yeah, i should wait for the re-trace. thanks. i hate chasing these things.

good luck everyone...

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GREAT WORK JANIE. GOOD DD.

NOTE FROM ONE OF MY LEGS,

Reality,

Now I'm starting to get really excited. The energy today was incredible. It's been on IBC radio all day, mentioned on every message board I look at, and there must have been at least 1000 messages on the RB QBID board. All this without news. If good news comes out I'll have to keep the whole bottle of my "chill pills" right next to me LOL LOL. - Dick

P.S. Yes, everyone is expecting a huge gap up tomorrow morning.

Rick

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Originally posted by denzen:
Diana,
I'm starting to wonder about the date of the Vegas party. What time of year are you thinking it will be?

Dz

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SOONER THAN WE THOUGHT. LOL NICE GAP UP THIS A.M. LETS SEE WHERE IT TAKES US.

ROLL CALL--EVERY HERE. LETS HAVE A GREAT DAY.

do you think it will run today and then retrace. I'm kind of new to pennies and have never had as much success as QBID. I want to try and pick up more shares if it does.

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Originally posted by al68:
HEY DIANA .

I HADNT TALKED TO IN A WHILE, I SEE YOUR
KEEPING BUSY.
THE MAIN THING I KEEP GOING OVER IN MY HEAD
IS A COUPLE YRS AGO WHEN IT HIT .48 WE DID
NOT HAVE SHOWS LIKE WILL AND GRACE AND QUEER
EYE ON THE AIR.
THESE SHOWS HAVE PAVED THE WAY FOR QBID AND
WE ARE IN A DIFFERENT TIME NOW.
I MAY SELL A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND SHARES
WHEN THIS PUPPY GETS TO .50 OR SO.
BUT I WILL KEEP AT LEAST 200,000 SHARES
FOR A LONG LONG TIME.
AND I COULDNT AGREE MORE ABOUT TAKING YOUR
MONEY OUT AND RIDING FREE, I WOULD SAY
TO NEWBIES THAT IS THE NUMBER 1 LESSON
I HAVE LEARNED.
LETS GO , QBID. TAKE US ALL TO THE BANK.

AL

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UP 21 % WHEW. LIFE IS GRAND...

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Originally posted by njs300zx:
I'm out at .0073 in hopes of a retrace =)

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Originally posted by The Hippo:
haha...good!

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Originally posted by salvia123:
realityinc....been in qbid since the get go....finally in a position to take some profit...this one HAS to dip back down, right?
r u taking some profit and reinvesting on the dip??
if so, when r u planning on selling of and buying back in?

I AM WATCHING JUST LIKE YOU. I WILL RIDE IT TILL IT STOPS. I WON'T RIDE IT BACK DOWN--BUT I DON'T SEE THAT COMING TODAY. IMHO

IT WILL PULL BACK SOME--PROFIT TAKING OF COURSE BUT NOT RETRACE. IMHO

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Anybody is keeping up with L2 ?

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GLTA

Raja