be ready lots of coffee to plow through it all. hell, we formed a country with less words.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1079893/000114420404001490/0001144204-04-001490.txt

David

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Originally posted by old mullet:
bo, you might be interested in these broader scope patents. also click home on this link and look at who is backing canesta. they are a venture capital supported company. what do you think of the components they sell for incorporation into other devices. i wouldn't count them out, and if they were publicly traded i'd own a piece of them as well.

hope you have a good weekend too. i'm going to sleep late tomorrow, and have a cup of coffee in bed.

uncle milty

sorry, i forgot to post the link the first time. http://www.canesta.com/patents.htm

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I don't know why the 500 mil. figure is still around. I have personally called the transfer agent and the OS is about 2.6 billion and the float about 1.5 billion. I posted the EXACT #'s about a week ago on ONE of these Ibiz threads!! LOL

Have a good weekend,
Steve

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Originally posted by OilMan:
Common stock
Authorized - 5,000,000,000 shares,
par value $.001 per share
Issued and outstanding - 649,893,721 shares
Additional paid in capital
Accumulated deficit

Well that answers the O/S VS. Authorized Question..... Comments?

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As of February 11, 2004, there were 2,132,956,988 shares of common stock, par
value $0.001 outstanding. The following table sets forth certain information
regarding the beneficial ownership of our common stock as of February 11, 2004:

The 1 Circuit City PO is more than they had in revenue in all of 2003! this is the beginning of something VERY, Very beautiful, imo. Next Blue DOck and I'm sure they have another FLagship Product or 2 in the works!

I reviewed the patent list of Canesta and from what I reviewed none are specific to the virtual keyboard. The input device that obtained a patent in Sept has to do with sound technology that may or may not pertain to voice input (which is still a very raw technology in terms of accuracy and consistancy).

It's only from posts that I have read claiming e-mails from Ken Shilling stating that what is occurring is in accordance with the business model they laid out. A reverse split would be a last resort and certain language that it would not occur.

Try this: http://www.canesta.com/downloads/patents/USP6614422.pdf

Seems very similar to VKB... but I'm no patent attorney...

The Canesta sound device has a different patent number.

David

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Originally posted by Bo14172:
Uncle Milty,

I reviewed the patent list of Canesta and from what I reviewed none are specific to the virtual keyboard. The input device that obtained a patent in Sept has to do with sound technology that may or may not pertain to voice input (which is still a very raw technology in terms of accuracy and consistancy).

Thank you for bringing that there list of patents to our attention. I feel most assured of the patent VKB has.
Take care,
Bo

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There is no listing for the patent you linked in Canesta's site. In their site, on the left side in the Technology section, the patents are listed beginning with the most recent. There are 2 they list in January 2004 which has nothing to do with vkb, and the only listing I see in Sept 2003 is the listing that Uncle Milty posted, with is a noise/voice activated system.

In no other place on their site did I see downloads. I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious how your link is from their site, when even they don't list the patent anywhere that I could see.
And you're right, it seems similar, but also seems to focus on being intregral with the hardward of systems. I don't see any news of them taking this to market, have any business model to display or mass produce this. Thanks for any insight on where specifically in their site you were able to access this link. Bo

"What is included with the Canesta Keyboard Prototyping Program and what is the cost?

Companies enrolled in the Canesta Keyboard Prototyping Program receive 1) three complete sets of the Canesta Keyboard Perception Chipset (Sensor Module, Pattern Projector module and IR Light Source module), 2) Application Test Bed (a tool utilized for customizing keyboard layouts and conducting usability testing) and 3) Supporting software including sample code and drivers, 4) Extensive documentation, and 5) Up to 160 hours of device integration support.

There is a $50,000 NRE charge to cover the costs associated with the components, tools, and technical support provided as part of the program."

$50,000 cost just to test...then what? With add'l component, manufacuting, marketing, sales & delivery costs to intergrate, computer and pda companies will lose price competetiveness. I would think such a unit could add $200-$400 to the retail cost of a computer or pda.
IBIZ's vkb, priced at $99.00 is not only a great price for the consumer, but to computer and pda manufacturers who now won't have to be concerned adding business cost and markup with integrating a costly vkb like Canesta's. The $99.00 price is sweet and leverages a huge competitive advantage.
The Dell's, Gateway's and Apple's many want to offer IBIZ's vkb as a product option if the initial global reaction over the next 45 days catches on like wildfire.

Nite all...Bo

The link MT gave refers to the same patent as this link htt p://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=canesta.ASNM.&OS=AN/canesta&RS=AN/canesta

Canesta's patent was approved Sep 2, 2003. http://www.canesta.com/downloads/patents/USP6614422.pdf
VKB's patent was approved Nov 18, 2003. http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06650318__

It seems to me that the Canesta patent is for the technology to be embedded into devices so that they'll have the virtual keyboard feature instead of relying on conventional keyboards for input. The layout of Canesta's virtual keyboard is also different from VKB's.

VKB is adopting the plug-and-play approach, which IMO is better. It is more versatile in the sense it could be used with virtually any device with an input port.
Also, sound recognition technology is slower (light travels faster than sound), more complex (try using the device on a plane) and harder to implement.

Canesta will need to spend more time in R&D and costs to create a workable model with various companies (like NEC), whereas VKB is independent in its development.

I guess this also explains why VKB has production of the virtual keyboard ahead of Canesta even though it has less funding and R&D backing.

IMO, VKB is more brilliant
To put it simply, Canesta is essentially saying that it invented revolutionary wheels which could only be used for manufacturing cars. VKB, on the other hand is saying they invented similar but even better wheels which could be used on any vehicle which may or may not require wheels.

I could be wrong on this, but based on my computer engineering knowledge, it should be correct to a significant degree.

If anybody has anymore insight into this, please post it

Quoting Bart, "Eat monster(s) EAT!!!!"

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mt...

There is no listing for the patent you linked in Canesta's site. In their site, on the left side in the Technology section, the patents are listed beginning with the most recent. There are 2 they list in January 2004 which has nothing to do with vkb, and the only listing I see in Sept 2003 is the listing that Uncle Milty posted, with is a noise/voice activated system.

In no other place on their site did I see downloads. I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious how your link is from their site, when even they don't list the patent anywhere that I could see.
And you're right, it seems similar, but also seems to focus on being intregral with the hardward of systems. I don't see any news of them taking this to market, have any business model to display or mass produce this. Thanks for any insight on where specifically in their site you were able to access this link. Bo

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Originally posted by Bart:
Lets hold off on the PR until 10:00AM Tuesday! I am going to double my shares first thing that morning! Ameritrade takes their time putting money you send them in your account! They said it will be available first thing Tuesday! This thing could get up to .30 very quickly with any type of good PR!
Circuit City was ok but look at all the others that will be coming. And then BLUE DOCK! I had a friend over and he is a com. nut! He read about this VKB and liked it but he went nuts over the BLUE DOCK! He said he would buy the VKB on the company site and he can wait until the Blue Dock comes out! This is going to be big! Eat MONSTERS Eat!

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Originally posted by Neo:
there is a post on this board where every one listed how many shares they have, you can check that out if you like, of course I have added to mine since then and im sure so have many others, I dont know anything about qbid but I do know that for the first time Ibzt is going to be making some serious dough, debt has been retired (with dilution of course) but this has not caused a significant price drop. Why is this? I think that the dilution and the natural reduction of value of shares that should follow it has been counteracted by the massive interest in this company because of news coverage and the fact that this thing is just getting started!
my opinion. looking for others...
what do you think?

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Now git to "EATING"!

And.. for those who feel that IBZT is a big risk, then don't buy. Most of us buy IBZT for its potential growth and market dominance in the near future. Many of us try to give objective inputs on IBZT so that others may have a chance to decide for themselves if IBZT is worth it. Other than that, we have nothing to gain. If you like it, you like it, if you don't, you don't.