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TO me, the numbers look great, but Reuters didn't sound too happy about it since revs up only about 75.8% and i guess short of what was forcasted.. it's like wtf, it's still up 75.8%!!! Invester, with these numbers, what pps do you think the market with linger about?
UPDATE 2-Ciena loss less than expected although revenue weak Wed Jun 9, 2010 8:29am EDT Stocks
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* Ciena rev $253.5 mln vs Street's $268.3 mln
* Loss excluding items $0.13 vs loss estimate $0.26
* CEO: customer spending recovering but Europe a challenge
* Shares up 4.4 pct premarket (Adds CEO comments, background on Nortel deal, new headline)
NEW YORK, June 9 (Reuters) - Communications equipment maker Ciena Corp's (CIEN.O) second-quarter loss was narrower than Wall Street expected and the company said customer spending was recovering. Its shares rose 4.4 percent in premarket trading.
Ciena, which supplies optical switches and other equipment to AT&T Inc (T.N) and Verizon Communications Inc (VZ.N), also said the integration of a Nortel unit it bought earlier this year was going as planned.
Revenue in the three months ended April 30 fell short of analysts' expectations, coming in at $253.5 million, including $53.5 million from the Nortel unit, compared with the average Wall Street forecast of $268.3 million according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S..
A year earlier, revenue totaled $144.2 million.
"We are encouraged by recent signs of recovery in customer spending, although Europe remains a challenge due to volatile macroeconomic conditions," Chief Executive Gary Smith said in a statement.
AT&T and other phone companies cut back on network spending last year to cope with a weak economy, although many have resumed spending to handle increasing mobile phone and Internet traffic.
Ciena forecast third-quarter revenue of $375 million to $400 million, straddling the market's average forecast of $388 million.
The company's second-quarter net loss was $90.0 million, or 97 cents per share, compared to a loss of $503.2 million, or $5.53 a share, a year earlier.
Excluding special items, its quarterly loss was 13 cents a share, compared to the Street's forecast for a loss of 26 cents.
Ciena's Smith said the integration Nortel's optical networking and Internet infrastructure unit was going well and cited "positive market reaction" to the deal.
Nortel, once North America's biggest telecommunications equipment company, filed for bankruptcy protection in January and put its assets up for sale.
The sale was part of a string of deals in the telecommunications equipment space, as last year's spending cuts by carriers and the high costs of investing in new wireless technologies forced many gear makers to consolidate.
Ciena shares rose 4.4 percent to $14.45 in premarket trade. (Reporting by Ritsuko Ando; Editing by Derek Caney)
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Forecasting $375-$400 million next quarter...Bottom line improving...Oversold with a ton of shorts...I added out of the money calls today...JMO GLTYA
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I still have the Jan. 2011 calls. They have $10 in cash.. So the company is valued at $4, $368 million? This company is worth about $35 a share, and forward earnings about $45. George Soros is holding a ton of this as well. Watch the whales. No brainer.
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i picked up recently july 10 calls at 14 (.63) and 15 (.11) .. my 14's are high, didn't expect it to drop half price the day after .. i tried to average out by picking up the 15's at .11, i'm sweatin' bullets, it was a risky move especially with CIEN for short term options.. i should have gone with something with more head room. I am hoping that Obama support for the expanding broadband spectrum will move this stock back to the mid 14's or even low 15's
quote:Originally posted by lostone: i picked up recently july 10 calls at 14 (.63) and 15 (.11) .. my 14's are high, didn't expect it to drop half price the day after .. i tried to average out by picking up the 15's at .11, i'm sweatin' bullets, it was a risky move especially with CIEN for short term options.. i should have gone with something with more head room. I am hoping that Obama support for the expanding broadband spectrum will move this stock back to the mid 14's or even low 15's
Half of there value is in cash. They are a major player in the movement of internet traffic. Set to make over $400 million next quarter. I'm not sure what anyone wants in a stock, but this is it. They have 93 million shares outstanding/1.2 billion market cap. I would say that I always play long term options though. You should have $15-$16 by expiration.
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I've been dollar cost averaging, but I have leaps. That’s the risk with short term options. The whole market has been melting down.
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o man.. hit 12.60 .. the trend looks lower and lower.. wtf is going on? all this started with china.. i probably still have another week before i should act.. i hate getting too close to expiration date..
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wow, the july call volume jumped today.. 14 strike hit 2116, 15= 582, 13= 326, 18= 5569. and the stock bounced at 12.12 with huge buys... i would like to think that they are starting to drive up, since option interest for PUTS (near the money) is like 75% of july options, it would be nice if there is a tracker for the average prices to calculate the max pain. I really hope that max pain theory applies, but even if it does, it doesn't look like the price needs to hit 15, but what do i know
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I was debating on whether to buy july 17 calls around that .80-.95 range for the $12 strike price around that 11am time area. I ended up pulling the trigger on the $2 calls of BIDU with a strike price of $70 instead. I do feel that this stock has been beaten down enough to make alittle bit of a bounce but the chart just did not look good enough for me to pull the trigger.
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I was debating on whether to buy july 17 calls around that .80-.95 range for the $12 strike price around that 11am time area. I ended up pulling the trigger on the $2 calls of BIDU with a strike price of $70 instead. I do feel that this stock has been beaten down enough to make alittle bit of a bounce but the chart just did not look good enough for me to pull the trigger.
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yea, that chart is still undecisive, although it does have a bullish hint today.. we need positive market news all around.. man, i think imma quit options after this...
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is it common to have problems getting out of options when it's near the expiration date? assuming the price of the stock is stabilized? would it be hard to get rid of the options around the week before expiration for something as active as CIEN's July options?
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WASHINGTON, June 28 (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama endorsed on Monday plans by regulators to nearly double the spectrum now available for wireless devices.
The White House announced a plan modeled after proposals by the Federal Communications Commission to free up 500 megahertz of spectrum over the next 10 years to meet the demand for laptop computers and smartphones such as Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) popular iPhone.
Some estimates suggest the next five years will see an increase in wireless data of between 20 to 45 times 2009 levels, reflecting the burgeoning use of wireless devices.
The Federal Communications Commission, which manages commercial spectrum licenses, and the Department of Commerce, which oversees government spectrum, have been working together to locate unused spectrum.
Officials said they hope they can identify some spectrum by Oct. 1 that can be made available within five years.
Paul Gallant, a telecommunications analyst with Concept Capital, said Obama's announcement is a plosive development for wireless infrastructure companies such as Alcatel-Lucent SA (ALUA.PA), American Tower Corp (AMT.N), Ciena Corp (CIEN.O), and Tellabs Inc (TLAB.O), among others.
The "White House's endorsement bolsters the outlook for spectrum goals" laid out by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski in the recent National Broadband Plan, Gallant said.
Freeing up airwaves to meet the growing demands of the wireless industry is a major component of the FCC's National Broadband Plan to increase Internet subscribers and provide affordable access to rural and low-income families.
But early attempts to meet an expected growth in wireless devices have hit snags because broadcasters and some U.S. government agencies have balked. Obama's plan could help pressure spectrum holders to reconsider their positions.
Broadcasters are reluctant to give up spectrum because it could harm the public's ability to watch free programming and government agencies have cited national security concerns.
White House economic adviser Lawrence Summers said in a speech that broadcasters will not be forced to relinquish their spectrum and stations can enter into a voluntary program in which they will be paid for their airwaves.
"Ultimately, government will not make these decisions," Summers said during a speech at the New America Foundation.
"Our role is simply to set up a mechanism to help shift spectrum to its highest value uses -- as current licensees and prospective users see fit."
Broadcasters said they have already returned a large swathe of spectrum that was later auctioned to companies such as the two largest wireless providers, Verizon Wireless and AT&T Inc (T.N). Verizon Wireless is a venture between Verizon Communications Inc (VZ.N) and Vodafone Group Plc (VOD.L).
"We appreciate FCC assurances that further reclamation of broadcast television spectrum will be completely voluntary," said Dennis Wharton, a spokesman for the National Association of Broadcasters.
"We're convinced that America can have both the finest broadband and broadcasting system in the world without jeopardizing the future of free and local TV service to tens of millions of viewers," Wharton said.
Administration officials said they are also looking into spectrum held by government agencies such as the Department of Defense and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, but agencies have been reluctant to give up their holdings, citing national security reasons.
Summers also said proceeds from spectrum auctions will be reinvested back into jobs-focused infrastructure projects such as the U.S. air traffic control system, high-speed rail and a national emergency response system.
"This initiative will catalyze private sector investment, contribute to economic growth, make revenue available to the federal government, and help to create hundreds of thousands of jobs," Summers said. (Reporting by JoAnne Allen and John Poirier; editing by Andre Grenon)
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Current quarter growth rate of 135%. Over 50% of there market cap is in cash. Full year 2011 reves. pegged at almost 2 billion. Not sure how you can find a better company. This should be $40 or so with there cash, revenues and growth.
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Look at the chart from the March. 2010 low. We have higher highs and higher lows. My calculations will take CIEN to $24 over the next 3 months and $40 over the next year.
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Day 3 of accumulation at $12.75-$12.80 I've seen this before in another stock before an acquisition. Just speculation, but it makes sense.
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Ciena 100G Solution Receives R&D 100 Award Prestigious R&D Magazine award recognizes Ciena’s 100G coherent optical transmission solution for excellence in design, development, testing and production
{"s" : "cien","k" : "a00,a50,b00,b60,c10,g00,h00,l10,p20,t10,v00","o" : "","j" : ""} Press Release Source: Ciena Corporation On Tuesday July 13, 2010, 9:00 am EDT LINTHICUM, Md.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Ciena® Corporation (NASDAQ: CIEN - News), the network specialist, today announced that its 100G coherent optical transmission solution is a winner of R&D Magazine’s 48th Annual R&D 100 Awards, which honor the 100 most technologically significant products introduced into the marketplace during the past year.
With the rapid growth of IP-connected devices – such as smartphones and tablets, and related applications and content – service providers face new bandwidth requirements and the need to ensure an optimal user experience while containing costs. To address these demands, Ciena developed and productized the world’s first 100G coherent optical solution, capable of supporting the largest traffic demands driven by emerging consumer, business and networking applications. Ciena’s agile and cost-effective 100G solution enables service providers to increase the bandwidth of existing 10G fiber network infrastructures by 10 times through simple plug-and-play technology components – without the need to re-engineer their networks or deploy new equipment.
Numerous major service providers and research and education customers worldwide have already completed successful trials and commercial deployments of Ciena’s 100G solution, including Comcast, JANET, SURFnet, Telstra, TelstraClear and Verizon.
To enable service providers to transport 40G and 100G wavelengths simply and cost-effectively across existing 10G fiber networks, Ciena developed several key technologies, including coherent detection, electronic dispersion compensation and Dual-Polarization Quadrature Phase Shift Keying (DP-QPSK) modulation. In August 2008, the Optical Internetworking Forum (OIF) acknowledged the strong performance of this approach, selecting it as the recommended line modulation format for 100G data transmission. Ciena holds more than 20 patents related to its work in 100G optical transmission, in areas such as coherent optical receivers, electronic dispersion compensation and timing recovery, with additional patents pending.
“This recognition by R&D Magazine validates the innovative design, development and productization efforts that have contributed to the world’s first and only commercially deployed 100G coherent optical solution,” said Philippe Morin, senior vice president, global products group at Ciena. “Ciena’s 100G solution puts operators at a competitive advantage for the new communications era, ensuring the ability to easily and cost-effectively meet spiraling bandwidth demands while utilizing existing fiber and network equipment investments.”
Winners of the R&D 100 Awards are selected by an independent judging panel and the editors of R&D Magazine, which serves research scientists, engineers and other technical staff at high-tech industrial companies and public and private laboratories worldwide. Since 1963, the R&D 100 Awards have identified revolutionary technologies, many of which have become household names, including HDTV, ATM and fax machines, halogen lamps and the anti-cancer drug Taxol.
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Telecom-Network Suppliers Advance, Aided By ADC Deal Tuesday 07/13/2010 3:23 PM ET - Dow Jones News
Related Companies Symbol Last %Chg ADCT 12.52 0.00% CIEN 13.32 0.00% ERIC 11.48 0.00% GLW 17.73 0.00% LEAP 13.45 0.00%
As of 4:00 PM ET 7/13/10
By Jeffry Bartash
Shares of suppliers for telecommunications networks gained ground Tuesday after ADC Telecommunications Inc. (ADCT) was offered a large buyout premium by Tyco Electronics Ltd. (TEL). ADC accepted an all-cash offer from Tyco Electronics totaling $1.25 billion, or $12.75 a share. That represented a sizable 44% premium over ADC's closing price the day before the offer was announced. In recent trading, shares of ADC soared 41% to $12.50. The deal also bolstered other telecom-equipment stocks, all of which rose in the regular session. Ciena Corp. (CIEN) gained 4.5%, Tellabs Inc. (TLAB) rose 4.1% and Corning Inc. (GLW) added 2.5%. Bigger vendors L.M. Ericsson Telephone Co. (ERIC, ERIC-B.SK)Y) and Motorola Inc. (MOT) also moved higher. Both stocks added almost 4%. In the phone group, stocks also were higher along with the broader U.S. market, though by a smaller amount. Leap Wireless International Inc. (LEAP) climbed more than 4% to lead the way. Also, Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ) moved up 1.9%. AT&T Inc. (T) advanced a smaller 0.7%.
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JP Morgan starts CIEN at Underweight. Am I missing something here? Over $7 in cash, trades at $13. Revs. over $400 million current quarter and over $2 billion full year 2011. Sweet spot of mobile internet. ADC telecom just got bought. Analysts upgrade with a $25 target. Only 93 million O/S. How can anyone say underweight? Either this JP Morgan analyst is a numbskull, or I'm clearly missing something.
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