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Previously, documentation has been provided which exemplifies Rufus practiced deceit regarding the Venezuelan bond. What do you readers find on this latest bond being taunted?
Next we got document dated July 25, 2006, still using Church St in DeKalb (& Levinson as agent) as HSWF address, listing Canady as CEO; Sakkli as CFO; and Cason as Secretary (notice: no signatures--names are printed or type, also showing Canady as the filer); all three using 400 Galleria Parkway in Atlanta.
Cities so far: DeKalb, Atlanta (GA); Freeport (NY)
(timeline: roughly, five months since incorporation and change of trustee--to Sakli, now with two addresses)
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show that someone in the real estate biz got in over their head trying to get involved in the forex game? that's as best i can tell...
as i stated several times? i'm no lawyer...
and? i would just ignore all of this if i wasn't constantly being accused of unfair moderating practices...
yeah..that seems to be what I am seeing...but I will spend a little time looking...the problem is...I don't really care to take that much time...LOL..I'm not investing...
For those that are going to "invest" in this...please keep digging...and make sure of your "investment"...it is always a very good idea. to completely investigate anyone and any stock that you are going to hold long term!
If I find anything that I feel is "important"..or not already posted...I will post...GLTA!
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"the common link there seems to be the Peachtree address"
How many businesses have been created using that address? What is the common theme employed for those businesses?
Is there another address being used to create a series of companies with common players?
In keeping with the Ponzi Scam perpetrated by Canady Holdings and associates, are there other businesses created which indicate stock shares which are not registered, not public?
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In keeping with the Ponzi Scam perpetrated by Canady Holdings and associates, are there other businesses created which indicate stock shares which are not registered, not public?
please cite the legal document stating this.. i can' find it... been looking all over too..
i am trying very hard to help you here PG..
the term alleged is very important...
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, May 17, 2006 Contact: Stacie Temple, (573) 526-5076 Contact: Mike Seitz, (573) 526-0949 Carnahan's Office Orders Canady Holdings, Inc. to Stop Ponzi Scheme
The alleged activities of Canady Holdings and its agents indicate characteristics of a Ponzi scheme, an investment scam included in Carnahan's list of Top 10 Threats to Investors for 2006, which involves "robbing one person to pay another." In these schemes, initial investors are paid off with money taken from new investors. As long as a steady flow of new investors keeps coming in, there will be money to pay off the old investors. However, when new investors stop coming in, the scheme collapses, investors lose their money and the fraudsters walk away rich.
this is a very CLEAR statement to me..
and i don't even have an English degree.
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Part of what Tex is providing for readers, at the expense of his personal time and effort, is known as "buffering" which is to create such an elaborate web of inter-connections to make it very difficult for the public to correctly place all the pieces to a nonsensical puzzle.
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As you readers learn from others, as you readers learn on your own, you will develop knowledge which you can apply in the future, you can apply to either make profits or apply to avoid losses.
In time, your knowledge base becomes so sufficient you will be able to recognize problems like this based simply on a few words from a company, based simply on a pattern of behavior you learned of through past research.
One of hundreds of benefits is being able to spot problems right off so you can dismiss a stock then move on to your next stock of research; you save a lot of time and effort which affords you more time and effort to use for research of stocks which may prove profitable, rather than prove to be a scam.
I have never known learning to be painful nor fatal.
IV: Next up is the "Cease and Desist Order," showing Canady Holdings at "last known address" as the same Peachtree number, same suite.
So here's Canady, Cason, and Sakli at 400 Galleria in Atlanta (HSWF); then Canady again, back at Peachtree, also Atlanta.
(Assumption: This may be to keep HSWF at arm's length from Canady Holdings: presumably the nonprofit will file--or already has filed--for 501-3c status. To Do: check 501-3c filings).
So far: Canady Holdings and first HSWF trustee at Peachtree address.
(also now have : "J. Boykin" in Chicago, "J. Teng" in Kansas City [MO, not KS]; "L. Young" in Grandview [also], MO. )
Teng and Young--common business address in KC, MO...
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I'd say, do it early--if you're going to at all, lol. Anything can run, like that ICTN thingee the other day. But, *IF* a "geek* or *lotto* play is gonna get in trouble? The longer it goes, the riskier each play gets: What was a risky, pinky swing becomes a riskier daytrade...and so on. More on this, later... back on da trail, lol...
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So far, my research follows yours, almost precisely.
Of interest, one of the major themes I find is this "non-profit" status for most of the companies. This is a method to avoid paying taxes.
A clue, remember my rant about the SLJB deal which involves, hmm, GMB, GMP, cannot remember company initials. Whatever, this company is very recently busted for tax evasion, hundreds of millions and some officers will receive prison time. Why did SLJB select that company?
My opinion is Rufus, Canady and the rest are working at setting up a similar situation of a tax shelter which may or may not prove a good idea. Toss in a Ponzi Scam, they are asking for real trouble.
There you have, readers, a cross-reference between SLJB and CSHD stock based on prior learning.
Readers can either give attention to those who perform excellent research or give attention to those who make up mule manure as they go along.
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Tex... You are correct...this is all very interesting...the very reason why I have made the attempt to "hold a small position"...I tend to sell out of something and not look back...
What I find interesting is the "R/M" and the "368"...if this company is able to "pull this off"...even for only one trade at the "reset PPS"..."We" may find many more companies attempting "this"...
sure if I had "more" time to investigate...I may be "going at it"... Life is pretty full...I need to choose wisely what I put time into...does not mean "I am a bad trader...and will not learn"... Others seem to have the time...and not even vested...that is what they enjoy doing...fantastic...not sure those individuals should "criticize" others... and no Tex..you have not criticized...
As stated many times..VERY INTERESTING play..and anyone investing in this should do ALL DD before investing...never believe the "BS" on these boards...good, bad or indifferent...DD and find out for sure if the info is true...GLTA!
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex... You are correct...this is all very interesting...the very reason why I have made the attempt to "hold a small position"...I tend to sell out of something and not look back...
Same reason why I am holding few too 10. Regarding scam/ so on and so forth.. I am not naive to beleive that shares I had bought at 0.095 and 0.145 are worth $15 or $25 or $100 or w/e rufus will want to put on it.. right now, IMO it is contest between some shortsellers, including proessional traders like hindsite traders of ihub, and some on this board IMO Vs Rufus&Co.. who wins time shall tell.. meanwhile I just keep reading whatever people post.. very interesting to say the least!
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lol, jumping ahead a bit...anybody got time? send an email to "ruwealthy2*hotmail.com"
from the cease/desist order:
quote:Issuing bank issues Letter of Credit, the client will send a copy of the Letter of Credit in a protected format via fax: 206-888-2670 or Pdf: ruwealthy2*hotmail.com upon receipt the client will receive a Joint Venture Agreement. They will send the Letter of Credit to the Advising bank by electronic means via SWIFT.
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Huge office complex! There are hundreds and hundreds of businesses there. In my cartoon world, all offices would be connected by side doors and secret staircases, so one man can pretend to be the operator of all those businesses.
Instead of "ruwealthy2" the boy simply should have used "scamster" instead. Gads, just the moniker is a dead giveaway! That boy deserves ninety days in the Gray Bar Hotel simply for being so stupid.
"Oh Henry! We should write ruwealthy2 and we can be wealthy, too!"
Last number, Spangler owns a 1.68 percent interest.
LEHMAN BROTHERS HOLDINGS INC 6.125% NOTES DUE 23/03/2007; FULLY PAID; (REPRESENTED BY NOTES TO BEARER OF EUR1,000, EUR10,000 & EUR100,000 EACH) XS0109242510
Readers will note this bond is being sold in units of Euro 1K, 10K and 100K lots.
No doubt, being a tradable bond, many others own a percentage share. I have stopped research here being satisfied with my findings Rufus does not own this bond outright, as with the Venezuelan bond.
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hey Purl? isn't this funny? didn't Henry Fahman get this too?
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp CEO Recipient of the 2006 Georgia Republican of the Year Award from the National Republican Congressional Committees Business Advisory Council Sunday August 20, 7:34 pm ET
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quote:Originally posted by glassman:posted July 20, 2006 22:14: PG? i still have 1000 shares of Henry Fahmans paper...free of course, but i do remember that filings don't mean a whole lot more than PR.... but still more...
whistled up the wind here, again
hmmmm.. see page 15 of this thread...
up5grand? the good ol'days were really only about 3 weeks ago? seems like an eternity...
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quote:Originally posted by T e x: I'm merely rertracing so far...
IV: Next up is the "Cease and Desist Order," showing Canady Holdings at "last known address" as the same Peachtree number, same suite.
So here's Canady, Cason, and Sakli at 400 Galleria in Atlanta (HSWF); then Canady again, back at Peachtree, also Atlanta.
(Assumption: This may be to keep HSWF at arm's length from Canady Holdings: presumably the nonprofit will file--or already has filed--for 501-3c status. To Do: check 501-3c filings).
So far: Canady Holdings and first HSWF trustee at Peachtree address.
(also now have : "J. Boykin" in Chicago, "J. Teng" in Kansas City [MO, not KS]; "L. Young" in Grandview [also], MO. )
Teng and Young--common business address in KC, MO...
OK, here's where I left it...
V. looks like the State of Missouri is convinced Canady (Holdings), Teng, Boykin and Young worked together to pull a fast one on the so-called MR1 and MR2...
basically, it looks like MR1 made about $500--as opposed to the "promised" $11,000--while MR2 appears to be ripped for $1,600.
Meanwhile, says the state: "Boykin received $4,000 and Young received $6,000 in commissions as a result of the investors’ first payout."
Pretty slick...
the picture the state's evidence seems to be painting is *not* the typical dumb criminal...notice MR1 actually made some dough--if I'm reading correctly (and not bad dough, either)--it will be very tough to convict on MR1's case. ("WHAT? You gave 'em a grand or so and got back $1,600?--in a matter of weeks!")
If I were Boykin/Young? I would give MR2 the $1600, from our 10k...
The picture I'm getting is that of a sophisticated group (have mentioned before am impressed with the apparent level of planning) who are versed in the law, know the "edges," and are quite focused on using other folks' capital instead of their own.
Put it this way: If I wanted to borrow a grand that would make *me* 10 grand, "but I'll you pay back"....would you lend it to me? Maybe...
If I told you, "Invest your grand, get 11 grand" then I gave you $500 and walked away with $10,000... then what?
Am *not* saying the math is that simple...but I do believe we are seeing an escalation in sophistication in using other other's funds without truthful disclosure...
yup...pretty slick
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Very slick. Classic Ponzi Scam. Quite common for Ponzi crooks to use new scam money to pay early scam victims to create an appearance of a legitimate deal. Those early victims perform as walking advertisment, "Helen! Look, we made money! Let's go tell Ozzie and Harriet!"
Appears these crooks were caught about halfway through their scam.
Readers are again cautioned to research, read and learn about civil litigation of this type rather than be misled by armchair lawyers.