anyone else find any contact info for that company to see if we can confirm their order?
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Yup. And now after it's going to be a month before the ex-divy date, the price will start to fall back down. Then when the date gets close people'll buy into it again and the suckers that buy in will find out they aren't getting any divy at all or they'll find out "Oh by the way, this is 100% stock which COULD be valued at this much if we WERE this price) or something gay like that.
I still don't trust them. And I agree 100% on not going just by PR's here.
Anyone here know how to look them up in the SEC filings? I can't find crap for IDS worldwide.
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Well here's the beginning of the fall of the share price now that people think the divy doesn't go out for another month. I say "think" because this could easily still be a lie and there probably is no real divy going out. At the most I expect to just see a ton of shares awarded with how vague they are with this.
The way I see it, the only money you can make on this now is catching a dip on this next 2 week trend then buying in and selling as soon as we get a sharp increase from a PR. Don't expect to it ever go much more above 50 cents. It never did before and the more they dillute this thing, the less it'll climb.
people are skeptical about buying it for a reason.
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I saw an email on IHUB in which Patrick Downs says they are currently in a quiet period. Don't expect to hear much from them in the near future.
Re: OT IDWD announces div date: by: cellstar_man 02/09/06 02:23 pm Msg: 54521 of 54524
I emailed Patrick and here's the response for what it is worth:
The press release is not intentionally vague. There are 4 separate dates as pertains to this Special Dividend. The record date set today. Then IDS has to wait for NASD to set the ex-dividend date. Then the declaration date on which IDS then announces the final makeup of the dividend date and finally the payment date. IDS is currently in a quiet period regarding this transaction with the HLS Division. IDS is extremely confident when the dividend is paid investors will be overwhelminly supportive and understanding of how IDS has handled this transaction to reatly increase long term shareholder value. IDS Investor Relations
Posted as a reply to: Msg 54520 by southbeachsal
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As I posted earlier, I didn't like the feel of this morning's events and got all out. . . but still, I don't understand the level bashing that's going on here?
I don't spend that much time on this board, so maybe this is the norm, but there's a bunch of people with no positions in this company just mocking the hell out of it and predicting the demise of the PPS and claiming it's a fake dividend. Somebody's got to have other motives, or maybe it's just a fun pastime ;D
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It's funny how so many want to slam this stock. I dumped gzfx a while back. Bought BKMP and got the divy and then bought back into IDWD at .18. All this is what I told you all I was going to do. Way back when I was in GZFX. Sold IDWD at .45 and made a nice profit. Now I will wait till it drops back and buy it back again around the 6th or 7th of March and catch that run up and get the divy and sell again at a nice profit. If the divy does not go right. I will still make a nice profit off the run up.
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quote:Originally posted by seanwill: As I posted earlier, I didn't like the feel of this morning's events and got all out. . . but still, I don't understand the level bashing that's going on here?
I don't spend that much time on this board, so maybe this is the norm, but there's a bunch of people with no positions in this company just mocking the hell out of it and predicting the demise of the PPS and claiming it's a fake dividend. Somebody's got to have other motives, or maybe it's just a fun pastime ;D
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People have been slamming this stock all along. They IMO are upset because they missed out on all the run ups. It has made in the past 6 months many good run ups. You could have made some good money on this stock. But some have their pet stocks that they hold no matter what. I myself try to follow the money. I am hoping to see it dip back to the .20 area maybe less by the 6th of March. You are right though. I myself got tired of the slamming of certain stocks and do not post near as much as I once did.
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That guy Downs is a con job. The above email states "Then the declaration date on which IDS then announces the final makeup of the dividend date" That so-called "declaration date" has long passed. A declaration date is the date a dividend is declared. I have never heard of any date on which the "final makeup of the dividend date" is announced. Just does not exist in securities trading. If he meant the makeup of the dividend itself (as opposed to the "date"), by his own words that information should already have been released. They have already declared the dividend, which is the Declaration Date. They set the Record Date yesterday and announced it today (and late too). Normally, the Payment Date is set at the same time as the Record Date. The NASD sets the X-Dividend Date after they are informed of the Record Date. That is all! That man is full of crap!
With reference to previous posts about legal problems, there are two Patrick Downs in that very same area of Fla. One is 47 (the one who is now on probation) and the other is 65. My guess is that they are father and son or nephew and uncle. Does anyone know the age of the Patrick Downs running IDWD?
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Is there anyway now that the Record Date it set to find out if the NASDAQ knows of this? Seems that it would have some kind of public paper trail.Is it not now a public situation. Would Brokers know or be able to find out?If the NASDAQ knows it would seem that some kind of public filing would happen. I know nothing of this stuff as far as that goes but maybe someone knows how to find this out. What is public in filing this stuff with the SEC or NASDAQ so to speak.I am all ears.
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quote:Originally posted by Tape worm: It's funny how so many want to slam this stock. I dumped gzfx a while back. Bought BKMP and got the divy and then bought back into IDWD at .18. All this is what I told you all I was going to do. Way back when I was in GZFX. Sold IDWD at .45 and made a nice profit. Now I will wait till it drops back and buy it back again around the 6th or 7th of March and catch that run up and get the divy and sell again at a nice profit. If the divy does not go right. I will still make a nice profit off the run up.
And indeed you did exactly what you said you would. Buy in and play off the rise from the false PR's. I congratulate you my friend. I would have done it myself but I was too busy with GZFX. We may get one more run out of this thing when it bottoms out but I still hear bells of risk bouncing around in my head. Maybe, we'll see.
Funny how you can make solid money out of a company that you know is scamming people easier than a company trying to succeed lol
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Funny how you can make solid money out of a company that you know is scamming people easier than a company trying to succeed lol [/QUOTE]
I'm new at this been play the pennies about a month and this is the one thing that I couldn't understand. I have found good companies with real products and positive PR's and the stock goes down. I'm not knocking anyone but it is ironic that many of the stocks that have dramatic rises have the least credibility. I believe risk, investing your money in a real company whose product doesn't pan out is one thing. It is quite another to believe the company only to find out it was a con.
I keep comming across the term "BASHERS" and in most cases it doesn't apply. I would think "BASHING" would mean spreading unfounded accusations about a stock in order to drive the price down. It is quite another thing to express one's doubts about the legitmacy of a company with research to back it up. It is buyer beware and if others wish to share what they have unearthed to balance the picture being drawn about a stock, why should it be a problem?
In answer to the question of NASD and public filing. According to my research once a company establishes a record date for a dividend they report it to NASD who then makes public the filing and establishes the Ex-Div date. I have yet to find any information on IDWD concerning this. If I'm wrong please let me know.
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you're right--except for very rare cases. Ocassionally, NASD gets info too late to establish an ex-date; as I recall, the record date "becomes" the ex-date in those cases.
Having said that, cash dividends and restricted stock are treated differently than common stock divvies...in the former you have a "T+3" time lag, in the latter the ex-date is all that matters...
re bashers: you're thinking right about that, too...
as far as:
quote:I believe risk, investing your money in a real company whose product doesn't pan out is one thing. It is quite another to believe the company only to find out it was a con.
most here are not investors, but traders. In that sense, it's simply a matter of "if it runs, it runs..." a common way to express is "buy the rumor, sell the news." Make sense?
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Thanks Buy Tex. It makes sense. So those who bash so called bashers are really just upset that someone's research might hurt the momenteum of the run and don't really care if the company is phony or not. To each his own. No judgement here just wish they didn't judge others for thinking differently.
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the problem starts when exuberant, naive posters "pump"--which is natural--or actual paid pumpers go to work, or the PnD crowd shows up.
Somebody kinda has to step in and remind folks most of these ain't investments to counter the "going-to-a-dollar BS."
Some "pumping" is only harmless fun among those in on that particular run...
but ya, there are real bashers...just usually not what folks are calling bashers. The paid bashers get better with time, and are paid--according to "lore," lol--in proportion to the number of replies to their posts... the theory being that the more "FUD" they create will be mirrored by the number of reeponses. "FUD" = Fear Uncertainty and Doubt...
Me? I never worry about that...
It *is* fun to bust the PnD crowd, though, cuz they're the biggest threat to a newbie's dough, imho, because your capital can literally evaporate if ya don't know how to play 'em...
another big threat is dilution on one that's pumped to run "even higher"... I have gotten burnt on that, lol. Could've doubled, but held waiting for the "Big One, Martha!"
Take profit...protect capital; let the "noise" be noisy. Ain't nuttin but a thang...
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In my short and limited time doing this, I've found MM's are the one's in control. I see them hold a stock down let it run and then knock it down after it's run. Since they seem to control the ask and the bid. Everything else the PnD and the PfPR, I'll call them Paid for Post Replies, really don't amount to a hill of beans. I mean I would figure that there are a bunch of people buying and selling that don't even know boards like this exist.
When you speak od dilution does that have anything to do with the other legend I've been reading about the Naked Short?
Anyway the most important thing I've learned is what you have pointed out "Take the Profit" and also Minimize the loss. I'm currently holding a couple that I should have cut loose but kept thinking they had to go up. There are a few that I could have been in and out of a couple times and still been in position in case they skyrocketed.
Thanks for the lessons. It helps.
Lastly I doubt very seriously that IDWD is down to around .37 because of anything posted on this board or any other one for that matter. Being new I was enticed by the .87 to 1.10 dividend and jumped in. After I was in I thought about and it just sounded "Too Good To Be True". Someone giving me $1 for spending .19 so I started looking into it. If I hadn't I'd still have those shares. I held them overnight, I think they were around .55 or .56 and could wait til morning to unload them. It worked out, I'm not whinning just calling a spade a spade.
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MMs in control--of course...yee-haw! It's great to have em.
Otherwise, who would trade all these POS's?
It's *their* job to "make a market."
How else would anyone be tempted to take that job unless they could profit for themselves or advance within their firm?
What you're seeing as holding it down or letting it run is what they can get away with, within the market.
Yes, the system needs cleaning up...
Yet, blaming the MMs for *everything* is tantamount to "poor workman blames his tools." There's examples everyday of owners twisting the system with their PRs ... jmho
As in every aspect of life, "too good to be true" should at least raise an eyebrow...
quote:Originally posted by Dudanation: Well here's the beginning of the fall of the share price now that people think the divy doesn't go out for another month. I say "think" because this could easily still be a lie and there probably is no real divy going out. At the most I expect to just see a ton of shares awarded with how vague they are with this.
The way I see it, the only money you can make on this now is catching a dip on this next 2 week trend then buying in and selling as soon as we get a sharp increase from a PR. Don't expect to it ever go much more above 50 cents. It never did before and the more they dillute this thing, the less it'll climb.
people are skeptical about buying it for a reason.
---------------------------------------------- Don't expect to it ever go much more above 50 cents. It never did before and the more they dillute this thing, the less it'll climb.
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It went as high as .64 when it first announced the divy a few months back.
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I can see why what I said was a little confusing. I meant for "last time" to include the "much more" as well. And of course "much more" meaning somewhat over 50 cents. I did not say 50 was the absolute maximum. The high AVERAGE was 50 (where it sat around most of the time back in the beginning of the first announcement) But the actual high was probably something up in the 70's that didn't last very long.
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Still so curious about the divvie. Up .15 today:
IDS Worldwide, Inc. Reports Unsolicited Purchase of IDS Common Stock Tuesday February 21, 10:01 am ET
Incubadora del Futuro, S.L. Announces Intention to Purchase 4.99% of Outstanding IDS Common Stock
ORLANDO, FL--(MARKET WIRE)--Feb 21, 2006 -- IDS Worldwide, Inc. (Other OTC:IDWD.PK - News) today announced that Jose Lugo, Managing Director of Incubadora del Futuro, S.L., from Madrid, Spain, contacted IDS Worldwide, Inc. headquarters stating that Incubadora del Futuro, S.L. intended to purchase up to 4.99% of the total outstanding shares in IDS Worldwide, Inc. common stock in the open market. This offer was unsolicited by IDS or any of its affiliates. IDS Officers followed up with a phone call to Mr. Lugo's Madrid headquarters, and Mr. Lugo confirmed his intention to buy in the open market up to 4.99% of IDS common stock (IDWD.PK). Incubadora del Futuro, S.L. and Mr. Lugo did not offer further information on the companies reasoning for this purchase. IDS previously has had no contact with either Mr. Lugo or Incubadora del Futuro, S.L.
Mr. Lugo stated he was beginning his purchases immediately in the open market. IDS will update shareholders as soon as further information is available.
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I have no idea why this stock is climbing......other than the so called divy......
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thnaks for all the insight on this stock. I posted the link to the article so that i could get info on it. I bought some shares and will hold it to see what happens. I am a risk taker but risk only what I can afford to lose.if the stock starts to drop radically i will pull out. If i find any other negitive info I will be sure to pass it along. Thank all of you for your input
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