quote:Originally posted by TimW: APPL is at the end of its iPhone run. The next competitors will be out soon and the glory is over.
Many rushed out and bought the phone for the bling factor but are starting to realize.. they cant even use it!
For twice the competitors price... iphone does not let you:
cant send mms messsages (picture messages) cannot be used as a modem (no way to use it with your laptop for internet access) its "massive storage" can only hold itunes songs.. no data.. which is ok because it cant use any data like docs and xls files anyway. no synching with outlook (of course they dont want to deal with Microsoft products.. but huge limitation to anyone that uses a phone for more than a call) cant send anything over blue tooth. no java or 3rd part application support no voice activated dialing no external storage like SD cards hell, you cant even use your iTunes songs as ring tones!
Stick a fork in it
People are finally starting to see that their iphone is pretty much a useless toy.. mauahhahah!
Oh, forgot the silly web browser also doesnt support flash!
Ok now im done.
STILL not covering my short position yet.
$112 and dropping.
I found this amusing the other day when I read it.
You seem to only pick out the things the phone does not do, as if Apple said the phone was suppose to have those features and sold it without them.
Did you ever think that just maybe people buy the phone because it doesn't have those features? What makes Bluetooth, Outlook, etc superior to all other applications?
Just my comments before I go to bed. Night
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TIMW....Apple already has other phones being made right now!!!
...they will release even better phones soon...the first IPHONE was just to get their feet wet...and let the World know they mean business...Apple phones are here to stay
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The thing I like about the iphone is that it's sort of the beginnings of this "black box" device, in that it can be whatever it wants to be because the user interface is "soft". The functionality of this "black box" would just be a matter of uploading firmware. I'm looking forward to seeing if/how Apple runs with this concept.
I think this is what makes the iphone a new class of device and just cant be compared to something that is already out there.
I agree with Ace though that Apple is working on other phones, because I just cant see them meeting their market share goals without some sort of additional intervention.
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Tuesday Sep 4 2007 18:20 Sales of Apple's iPhone outpaced those of the BlackBerry and other leading smart phone brands in July, according to a survey released on Tuesday.
The study by iSuppli, a market research group, comes as Apple prepares to launch the iPhone in the UK, Germany and France ahead of the Christmas shopping season.
The company is rumoured to be planning to unveil a revamped line of iPod music players at a special event in San Francisco today.
iSuppli cautioned some of the iPhone's success in its first full month on the market could be due to "pent-up demand following months of hype". "Real proof of success will come in the coming months as demand patterns stabilise," iSuppli said.
It said the iPhone could not be directly compared with smart phones such as the BlackBerry or Palm, because iPhone users lacked the ability to install third-party software. The lack of such an ability could limit the iPhone's potential use to companies, which are the main buyers of internet-enabled smartphones.
Nonetheless, the results of an iSuppli's survey of more than 2m US consumers provided further evidence that early sales of the iPhone met many analysts' bullish expectations.
iSuppli said Apple's long-awaited mobile handset accounted for 1.8 per cent of US handset sales in July, its first full month on the market. It expects Apple to ship 4.5m iPhones this year.
Apple's shares rose 4.1 per cent to $144.16 on Tuesday in New York, capping a rise of more than 15 per cent since the iPhone made its debut in the US at the end of June.
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That fact that this thread isn't that active is insane...this is one of the most exciting times for any stock!
This is the best stock for 2008! Remember...You heard it from me first!....well mabey not first....but you did hear it from me..LoL!
Read this whole thread...I didn't start it, but I begged and pleaded big time at the begging of 2007, when the IPHONE was revealed, read every post...many doubted the IPHONE...now look what's about to happen in 2008!!!! Apple beat earnings expectations 19 qarters in a row now!!! When will the fools learn...read these fool articles...
quote:Originally posted by NEL: i have owned this since $50 wish I would have put all my money into this instead of gambling on pennies, I's be up 400%
Last year I entered the market for NYSE/NASDAQ instead of pennies and my portfolio has recovered all the losses from penny mania
DRYS, AAPL, LDK, CGV, MELI to name a few...
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at the upcoming Macworld Expo trade show....there are many possiblilities of what to expect...last year apple brought us the IPHONE!
This dip is a great buying opportunity, That's why I brought this thred back into action....this month apple has earnings, there is another fed rate cut meeting again, and the Macworld Expo trade show!
I'm just gonna flip GOOG and APPL this year....Do DD on GOOG as well.....also BIDU, and VMW (monster IPO)
That whole Android thing GOOGle is launching is neat stuff...also they might buy a wirless spectrum!
So my No-brainer stocks that I will flip...or as Machavelli calls it...swing/position trade are.....AAPL, GOOG, BIDU, and VMW !!!!!!
I think GOOG will eventually buy their own country, and become more powerfull than the US Government...LoL...they are working with NASA too to creat a telescope in 2013 to give video images of space to the public!!!!
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sold short pay today. think you shuda taken out that loss before the new year. hind sight is 20/20
best of luck with the new trend. dow looks like it may start the new year by dipping below 13k. looks like i might be working on my selling short game in '08...
but apple should be a solid green play...
any opinions on verizon or other rival releases to the I phone?
personally i hate at&ts cell phone plans which are exorbidently expensive. so that might be a hurdle for the iphone. but thats my opinion....
at the upcoming Macworld Expo trade show....there are many possiblilities of what to expect...last year apple brought us the IPHONE!
This dip is a great buying opportunity, That's why I brought this thred back into action....this month apple has earnings, there is another fed rate cut meeting again, and the Macworld Expo trade show!
I'm just gonna flip GOOG and APPL this year....Do DD on GOOG as well.....also BIDU, and VMW (monster IPO)
That whole Android thing GOOGle is launching is neat stuff...also they might buy a wirless spectrum!
So my No-brainer stocks that I will flip...or as Machavelli calls it...swing/position trade are.....AAPL, GOOG, BIDU, and VMW !!!!!!
I think GOOG will eventually buy their own country, and become more powerfull than the US Government...LoL...they are working with NASA too to creat a telescope in 2013 to give video images of space to the public!!!!
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i got bit for about 10% on shorting this last year..
I just dont understand how a company with semi-small margins compared to competitors, average growth, and be sitting on cash instead of investing it in stockholders or business can really be worth a 120% growth market cap in one year... MSFT has about the same performance (27% msft vs 28% AAPL) and only grew about 16%.
I firmly believe this is insanely overrated.. just like their products :-P
All IMO.
<= Wishes he had $3 billion dollars to short apple with to put their value where they belong.
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You've GOT to be kidding me. Apple down over $6 today. I can't believe the uncanny knack I have for buying (and selling) at the complete wrong time.
Jo
-------------------- "Great Day for Up!"....Dr. Seuss
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Here's links for the ECONOMIC CALANDARS....Job report was an important event today...the next is the FOMC Meeting On Jan 30th at 2:15 pm eastern
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LoL im not touching this one for a little while.. Like its products its known to do the complete opposite of what you expect or what makes sense!!!
Apple And Jay-Z: Will They Really Launch A Record Label?
There's an intriguing rumor floating through the web this morning that Apple is getting into the music business. Some would say Apple's already in the business with its iTunes web site selling well over 2 billion songs these last few years. Or that selling well over 100 million iPods makes Apple a music company.
But this new rumor is something totally different: That ousted Def-Jam CEO and star rapper Jay-Z is about to create a new recording label with Apple Inc. Apple IncAAPL 180.05 -14.88 -7.63% NASDAQ
While the deal is interesting, it faces some extremely steep hurdles, not the least of which is how other traditional recording labels would view Apple's move onto their turf. The company's relationship with them is already tenuous. Steve Jobs has been a vocal critic of digital rights management and the labels' traditional role as music-material gatekeeper.
Still, if Jobs can figure out a way to control content AND distribution, artists could flood his way and he might find himself in the catbird seat. Again.
Apple already assumes many of the roles enjoyed by traditional labels, most notably distribution. And that's why this becomes so interesting: big name artists with a strong fan base don't need "development." They need distribution. Look at Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, and Madonna.
Traditional labels would cry foul but it's not clear they'd be able to do anything about it. Apple would be in the unusual position of using established acts from established labels to attract customers to iTunes, as it does already today, and then leverage all those eyeballs to sell its own music from its own artists. That'd be a neat trick, but it would sure anger some Hollywood heavyweights.
Could Apple even launch its own label? Sure. There's the misconception that after settling its long-running litigation with the Beatles and Apple Corps that Apple Inc. was prevented from entering the music business. Not necessarily true. There's nothing in the settlement that would prevent Apple from doing this.
One source I talked to said that "logistically this is possible, but unlikely." He asks, "Is this core to what they're doing? Answer? No."
And one other thing: Do a Google search of Jay-Z and Apple and you'll see that these two already have a contentious relationship. AppleInsider pointed this out as well: Jay-Z railed against Apple's iTunes a couple of months ago, saying his new album, American Gangster, would not be made available on iTunes since the service let shoppers buy individual songs instead of the entire album.
In a statement released at the time, Jay-Z said, "As movies are not sold scene by scene, this collection will not be sold as individual singles."
That's not to say a new Jay-Z/Apple label would do things differently, if it came to fruition. But something like this might be a lot more trouble than it's worth.
Watch the video at the end of article!!!!
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just kidding. had to jump on the running joke on this board....
