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Jo4321
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quote:
so its doomed then?
Yep, it's only a matter of time. [Wink]

On second thought NO. It's a New Year, time for a new TREND. From now on what I buy goes up and what I sell goes down!

(Not working so far today, since I own PAY, NTRI and OSK. Down 15%, 5% and 2% on the day respectively)

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sold short pay today. think you shuda taken out that loss before the new year. hind sight is 20/20

best of luck with the new trend. dow looks like it may start the new year by dipping below 13k. looks like i might be working on my selling short game in '08...

but apple should be a solid green play...

any opinions on verizon or other rival releases to the I phone?

personally i hate at&ts cell phone plans which are exorbidently expensive. so that might be a hurdle for the iphone. but thats my opinion....

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quote:
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Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Buying my first shares at $193 today, back over $200 shortly.

When Apple Has it's own category of news at yahoo...you know this company deserves attention

http://news.yahoo.com/i/1292;_ylt=AgouNScFraw_YKzeux.6TGojtBAF

http://news.yahoo.com/i/1292;_ylt=AgouNScFraw_YKzeux.6TGojtBAF

at the upcoming Macworld Expo trade show....there are many possiblilities of what to expect...last year apple brought us the IPHONE!

This dip is a great buying opportunity, That's why I brought this thred back into action....this month apple has earnings, there is another fed rate cut meeting again, and the Macworld Expo trade show!

I'm just gonna flip GOOG and APPL this year....Do DD on GOOG as well.....also BIDU, and VMW (monster IPO)

That whole Android thing GOOGle is launching is neat stuff...also they might buy a wirless spectrum!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20071231/bs_ibd_ibd/20071231tech;_ylt=At_xrtPqaopyPk hppovT7JUxVrIF

ALSO VMW was the biggest tech IPO since GOOG...

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=vmw

So my No-brainer stocks that I will flip...or as Machavelli calls it...swing/position trade are.....AAPL, GOOG, BIDU, and VMW !!!!!!

I think GOOG will eventually buy their own country, and become more powerfull than the US Government...LoL...they are working with NASA too to creat a telescope in 2013 to give video images of space to the public!!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2774850

http://searchengineland.com/070109-124408.php


I'm planning on making several hundreads of percent this year with this approach....using margin also, except holding through earnings!

You going to do a technical swing trade approach?

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i got bit for about 10% on shorting this last year..

I just dont understand how a company with semi-small margins compared to competitors, average growth, and be sitting on cash instead of investing it in stockholders or business can really be worth a 120% growth market cap in one year... MSFT has about the same performance (27% msft vs 28% AAPL) and only grew about 16%.

I firmly believe this is insanely overrated.. just like their products :-P

All IMO.

<= Wishes he had $3 billion dollars to short apple with to put their value where they belong.

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They are making $18 per month on each and every iphone activated with at&t/cingular...

I can't find the exact number of iphones out there on an ATT plan..but...

lets say there around 1 mil.

1mil x $18= 18 million...x24months (contract)=432 million!!

Thats only the plan itself..and I am only quoting 1 million iphones..correct me if I'm wrong... [Wink]

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432 million is still less than 10% of their rev's.

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but like I said.....THATS ONLY THE IPHONE PLAN...

They make a lot more than that off the phone itself!!!!

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Yes.. but still once again.. small chump change compared to their normal revenues.. I dont see why the more than double market cap comes from..

Even if they sold 2 million phones & contracts thats not even 25% increase in revenues directly from those sales.

Whats up with the 120% increase in stock price?

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I resist biting the forbidden fruit.. I had a hard enough time covering after a 10% price increase.

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LOL..Tim i'm just kidding with you bro.hehe..you don't have to take a bite if you don't want to...

...but I do insist you cut yerself a slice of grammy's homemade APPLE pie.. [Big Grin]

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LoL i'll have a slice of that, since it both looks as good as it performs.

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Touché!
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You've GOT to be kidding me. Apple down over $6 today. I can't believe the uncanny knack I have for buying (and selling) at the complete wrong time.

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It's not just Apple...Big 3 all in the red today...

AAPL -$7.80
RIMM -$6.65
GOOG -$15.56

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Here's links for the ECONOMIC CALANDARS....Job report was an important event today...the next is the FOMC Meeting On Jan 30th at 2:15 pm eastern

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/ecalendar/index.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/ecalendar/index.html

http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomc.htm


http://www.briefing.com/Investor/Public/Calendars/EconomicCalendar.htm


http://biz.yahoo.com/c/e.html

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Good to know Ace...Appreciate the links [Smile]
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Glad I didn't buy *yet*.... [Big Grin]

Have fun shorting Tim? [Razz]

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LoL im not touching this one for a little while.. Like its products its known to do the complete opposite of what you expect or what makes sense!!! [Wink]

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We'll see what happens...but things are not looking so "appetizing" right now...

It may be best to wait....hmmmm..

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Apple and Jay-Z launching a record label?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/22488838

http://www.cnbc.com/id/22488838

Watch the video at the end of article!!!!

Apple And Jay-Z: Will They Really Launch A Record Label?

There's an intriguing rumor floating through the web this morning that Apple is getting into the music business. Some would say Apple's already in the business with its iTunes web site selling well over 2 billion songs these last few years. Or that selling well over 100 million iPods makes Apple a music company.

But this new rumor is something totally different: That ousted Def-Jam CEO and star rapper Jay-Z is about to create a new recording label with Apple Inc. Apple IncAAPL
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While the deal is interesting, it faces some extremely steep hurdles, not the least of which is how other traditional recording labels would view Apple's move onto their turf. The company's relationship with them is already tenuous. Steve Jobs has been a vocal critic of digital rights management and the labels' traditional role as music-material gatekeeper.

Still, if Jobs can figure out a way to control content AND distribution, artists could flood his way and he might find himself in the catbird seat. Again.

Apple already assumes many of the roles enjoyed by traditional labels, most notably distribution. And that's why this becomes so interesting: big name artists with a strong fan base don't need "development." They need distribution. Look at Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, and Madonna.

Traditional labels would cry foul but it's not clear they'd be able to do anything about it. Apple would be in the unusual position of using established acts from established labels to attract customers to iTunes, as it does already today, and then leverage all those eyeballs to sell its own music from its own artists. That'd be a neat trick, but it would sure anger some Hollywood heavyweights.

Could Apple even launch its own label? Sure. There's the misconception that after settling its long-running litigation with the Beatles and Apple Corps that Apple Inc. was prevented from entering the music business. Not necessarily true. There's nothing in the settlement that would prevent Apple from doing this.

One source I talked to said that "logistically this is possible, but unlikely." He asks, "Is this core to what they're doing? Answer? No."

And one other thing: Do a Google search of Jay-Z and Apple and you'll see that these two already have a contentious relationship. AppleInsider pointed this out as well: Jay-Z railed against Apple's iTunes a couple of months ago, saying his new album, American Gangster, would not be made available on iTunes since the service let shoppers buy individual songs instead of the entire album.

In a statement released at the time, Jay-Z said, "As movies are not sold scene by scene, this collection will not be sold as individual singles."

That's not to say a new Jay-Z/Apple label would do things differently, if it came to fruition. But something like this might be a lot more trouble than it's worth.

Watch the video at the end of article!!!!

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These are sure taking a pounding ace..lol
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quote:
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These are sure taking a pounding ace..lol

I haven't bought any yet, I've been saying it for a while now...go by the 60 minute chart, for swing/position trades. Once AAPLE's MACD CROSSES on the 60 minute chart...Im gonna load the boat!

But I'm out before the next rate cut meeting no matter what...I'll wait and see what happens at 2:00 that day!

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Just dont hold out for financials from apple... you might be saddened to see half of their sales were spent on glass staircases.. [Razz]

just kiddin.

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that was some awesome picture of the Apple with
fangs and tongue sticking out.
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LOL...thanks chuck...kinda freaks your mind doesn't it? hehe... [Big Grin]

By the way..off topic but what does your premarket scan consist of? I am new to day trading and am looking for a gap scan or something I can work off of for short or longs.

I don't mind if you throw a few tips my way [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by wdcisco:
LOL...thanks chuck...kinda freaks your mind doesn't it? hehe... [Big Grin]

By the way..off topic but what does your premarket scan consist of? I am new to day trading and am looking for a gap scan or something I can work off of for short or longs.

I don't mind if you throw a few tips my way [Wink]

-wdcisco

I think I have a good scanner for you....this link is a video so make sure your volume is turned up!

http://www.topgunsoftware.com/stocktrading.html

Here are some more videos of that same scanner...you might have to download a video codec at the bottom

http://www.topgunsoftware.com/videotraining.html

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""B B B B-Booya, My name is Foodcourt"...LoL"

I was thinking the exact same thing earlier on..hahaha


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Wow that sure is some spendy software IMO...

...but the actual scan criteria they give looks very helpful.

Thanks ACE~!! I'll try it out tomorrow. I wan to make sure I know what I am doing before I open that Prodigy account [Wink]

You have no idea how tempted I am to call Keith an give him the "ok"...but I want to be ready.

Good luck tomorrow.

p.s. check this guys videos out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=icqnUfsaKMc

also him
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0LliXEXZ5q0

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Ace,

Does Omnipro have an intraday realtime stock scanner?

Where would I scan for this stuff?

Breakouts
Above/Below yesterday's high/low on Greater than 150% Average Volume
Above/Below First 15 min, 30 min, Hourly High/Low with Institutional Buying
Narrowest Day in Last 4 Days and Yesterday's Range Inside Previous Day, Today Breaks High/Low of previous day. This trade often produces huge trends and also good multi day swing trades/ option trades.
Stock is above its 10, 20, 50 and 200 Day Moving Average. Two or three down days in a row. Today breaks out of Previous Day's High
Stock breaks out of 3, 5, 10, or 20 Day Highest High/ Lowest Low. Explosive Moves!
Stock in 2% range over last 5 days, today breaks out of multi day range with high volume!

Gaps
Stock gaps down $1+ and then breaks out over first 5 min bar high
Stock gaps up $1+ and then breaks out over first 15 min or 30 min bar high
Stock gaps up 50+ cents but less than previous day high, finds resistance at high.
Stock gaps down 50+ cents but above the previous day low, finds support at low.
Dozens More Possibilities


Pulled off the top gun software wesite you gave me...

Anyone know? Stockcharts and Stockfetcher can not scan for this stuff. hmmmm..

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Omni pro has what's called a Market Minder...It only shows % gainers and loser....dollar gainers and losers....most acitve...but they work premarket so you can already see whats gapping. I like that you can sort them form % from open, instead of just percent from close!

But it doesn't have an actualy scanner like that

trade ideas and realtick have good scanners also, but Im not sure they can do what top gun does!

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I think you all can guess why this did so well, today. [BadOne]

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