quote:Originally posted by Art: Love the Limbaugh bashing by the libs on this thread.
Proves my point.
Libs can't argue against a conservative's ideas so they demonize him instead.
Now, who is thereby shown to be wrong: the conservative whose ideas stand unscathed, or the demonizing libs? ?
Hmmmmmmm.........
this is sad Art, i presented just the facts... you are the one that thinks Russ's oxycontin problem is demonization....i think it proves his hypocrisy...that's what i said and presented it as a fact...you are looking at the truths without seeing them....
and you don't even recognise them. you call me a liberal all time while the ignoring the fact that i have served my country and in fact left college to enlist when we had hostages in Iran,
because we needed to DO them then...(and we didn't) under a conservative admin....
i've reminded you of this over and over again, yet you can't seem to remember...if being "liberal" to you means thinking for myself and investigating both sides of a story before coming to a conclusion? then maybe i am a liberal(under your's and Rush's wierd definition)... i voted for Reagan and both Bushes, except for the last election... i am not impressed with "cheerleading" i offer FACTS, and you follow the same pattern over and over again: you look right past them...
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my first post, been following this site for a few months find most of the stars to be honest.respect that!!! dd shows that people i can give most credit investing and now politically are those that see gov. needs to regulate fairly. rush,bush,ronnie,rummie,etc. all to anyone with a sense of fairness are enemies. they misrepresent mislead and in general don't care,except when it comes to proving themselves.their so called facts rarely are correct,their experts can't withstand scientific or even legal scrunity and they never severe a decent cheese with their whine. WHAT REALLY BOTHERS ME??? ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!!! U NO Y??? I 4GOT!!!
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"It is the Cox nomination, however, that signals the return to pliant directors, misleading financial statements, disenfranchised shareholders and runaway executive salaries. Cox's philosophy of corporate governance is that investors who don't like how a company is run should simply sell their shares and put their money somewhere else. Look for Cox to make it easier and cheaper for companies to issue new shares of stock, even when they have no business doing so, while soft-peddling enforcement against big brokerage and insurance firms that merely aid and abet corporate fraud but don't actually do it themselves...
It is the Cox nomination, however, that signals the return to pliant directors, misleading financial statements, disenfranchised shareholders and runaway executive salaries. Cox's philosophy of corporate governance is that investors who don't like how a company is run should simply sell their shares and put their money somewhere else. Look for Cox to make it easier and cheaper for companies to issue new shares of stock, even when they have no business doing so, while soft-peddling enforcement against big brokerage and insurance firms that merely aid and abet corporate fraud but don't actually do it themselves."
Please visit here and write objections to senators,
"Cox has repeatedly demonstrated a preference for sacrificing investor protection to the larger cause of promoting economic growth. He is more ideologue than pragmatist, and an unabashed partisan to boot. Those hardly seem like the necessary qualifications to succeed Bill Donaldson, a champion of the investor, a paragon of independence and a general all-around pro."
Please take action; Cox is a hardcore crook. Cox will deregulate and write rules making it easier for Wall Street to rip you off. He will promote naked short selling, falsified accounting, pump and dump schemes by executives and will make it impossible for you to file legitimate complaints.
You will lose money if you allow Cox to takeover.
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I will remind you, the reader, the ultimate responsibility for this attempt to destroy the SEC and return Wall Street to rampant fraud and crime, ultimate responsibility lies with President Bush.
Bush, during his two terms office, is making every effort to assist corporations in ripping off the American public, and every effort to shield financial criminals from accountability.
Although different types of activities, Bush is a crook equal to Richard Nixon.
President Bush is not a patriotic American.
Bush is a lame duck president with nothing to politically lose but a lot to gain financially.
Please write your senators. I truly believe most of you have no concept how critical of a situation is this. Your investing future will be ruined if you allow Cox to become head of the SEC.
If your personal ethics are such you don't care, then let your greed for money motivate you to take action against the Cox nomination.
You will consistently lose money with Cox in power.
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"...also been criticized by consumer and investor organizations...contributed to an unaccountable climate that fostered the big accounting scandals at companies like Enron and WorldCom a few years later...."
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Interesting George Bush has close ties with Enron, and is a close personal friend to those responsible for the Enron ripoff, which financially devastated literally thousands of people.
Bush: Halliburton, Harkin Energy, Silverardo Savings, Enron, Mideast oil, just coincidence you think?
To date, the Bush family has cost American families, billions and billions of dollars for their own financial greed.
His nomination of Cox is nothing more than assuring the Bush family of continued ability to rip off tax payers in the future.
BBC News,
"..."I can guarantee you that if Cox becomes the head of the SEC, one of the things that he's going to be looking into is eroding a lot of Sarbanes-Oxley, I guarantee it," US class-action lawyer Melvyn Weiss said...."
Write to our senate and congress, darn it.
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Gurl, You say you hate politicians and yet your rantings here are that of a politician(very biased and exagerrated). So if you sound like a politician... why should we believe anything you say... Plead all you want
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yeah whitewater was like the most expensive investigation that never proved anything...
hmmmm...
i think they were guilty, but, what a friggin' waste...
still, two wrongs don't make right and as long as people keep pointing fingers at the other party instead of cleaning their OWN house...we will continue to get reamed....
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: yeah whitewater was like the most expensive investigation that never proved anything...
hmmmm...
i think they were guilty, but, what a friggin' waste...
still, two wrongs don't make right and as long as people keep pointing fingers at the other party instead of cleaning their OWN house...we will continue to get reamed....
Agreed, I was just trying to make the point that Hillary is no angel with America's best interest at heart as some would make her out to be.
Vince Foster, Missing Files.... (*cough*)
I say 3 terms and you are out of there, permanently. No more career politicians.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: yeah whitewater was like the most expensive investigation that never proved anything...
hmmmm...
i think they were guilty, but, what a friggin' waste...
still, two wrongs don't make right and as long as people keep pointing fingers at the other party instead of cleaning their OWN house...we will continue to get reamed....
Agreed, I was just trying to make the point that Hillary is no angel with America's best interest at heart as some would make her out to be.
Vince Foster, Missing Files.... (*cough*)
I say 3 terms and you are out of there, permanently. No more career politicians.
At least you aren't "represented" by her. Or are you?
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H Ross told it like it was (that sucking sound?),
unfortunately he quit for a month in the middle of the campaign, remember?
he claimed the Bush clan had it out for his family or some such nonesense...i'm sure it was all just lies..
Paranoia Perot's paranoia is pretty well known, due to his announcement in 1992 that he was quitting the presidential race (in which he was a very strong contender) because Republican's were planning to disrupt his daughters wedding (by forging photos of phony lesbian sex.) But it has long been typical of him.
He thinks he lost his 1993 debate to Al Gore because Gore had a hidden earpiece, through which he was being fed answers, or possibly questions. (Posner, p330). While he was serving on a Texas anti-drug commission in the early 1980s, he became convinced that Charles Harrelson (the father of actor Woody Harrelson, from "Cheers") had been hired to kill him by drug dealers. (The elder Harrelson is in fact a career criminal doing time for killing a federal judge.) The FBI dismissed his fears as baseless.
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[/QUOTE]Agreed, I was just trying to make the point that Hillary is no angel with America's best interest at heart as some would make her out to be.
Vince Foster, Missing Files.... (*cough*)
I say 3 terms and you are out of there, permanently. No more career politicians. [/qb][/QUOTE]At least you aren't "represented" by her. Or are you? [/QB][/QUOTE]
No, luckily, but I used to live in California with Mrs. Boxer as a Rep. =)
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Agreed, I was just trying to make the point that Hillary is no angel with America's best interest at heart as some would make her out to be.
Vince Foster, Missing Files.... (*cough*)
I say 3 terms and you are out of there, permanently. No more career politicians. [/QUOTE]At least you aren't "represented" by her. Or are you? [/QB][/QUOTE]
No, luckily, but I used to live in California with Mrs. Boxer as a Rep. =) [/QB][/QUOTE]
quote:Originally posted by Art: Love the Limbaugh bashing by the libs on this thread.
Proves my point.
Libs can't argue against a conservative's ideas, so they demonize him instead.
Now, who is thereby shown to be wrong: the conservative whose ideas stand unscathed, or the demonizing libs? ?
Hmmmmmmm.........
this is sad Art, i presented just the facts...you are the one that thinks Russ's oxycontin problem is demonization....i think it proves his hypocrisy...that's what i said and presented it as a fact...you are looking at the truths without seeing them....
and you don't even recognise them. you call me a liberal all time while the ignoring the fact that i have served my country and in fact left college to enlist when we had hostages in Iran,
because we needed to DO them then...(and we didn't) under a conservative admin....
i've reminded you of this over and over again, yet you can't seem to remember...if being "liberal" to you means thinking for myself and investigating both sides of a story before coming to a conclusion? then maybe i am a liberal(under your's and Rush's wierd definition)... i voted for Reagan and both Bushes, except for the last election... i am not impressed with "cheerleading" i offer FACTS, and you follow the same pattern over and over again: you look right past them...
Art: What facts do you offer? Demonization facts only - Limbaugh is a hypocrite! What about attacking his ideas rather than attacking his personal traits, as I've said repeatedly (but you didn't get, even now)?
Hey, everyone has some hypocrisy - Kerry was all for increased gun control (liberal code for confiscation of guns owned by lawful citizens needing them for self-protection) but showed clips of him holding and using guns to picture himself as pro-gun and pro-NRA. Kerry voted consistently for unilaterally disarming this country but voted agaisnt funding of most new weapons systems over the last 20 years or so, while hypocritically esposing his being strong on national defense. You voted for Kerry and his known history of attempting to emasculate USA military power, but I bet you publically affirm your belief in astrong USA military.
Your hypocrisy is also in thinking you don't demonize and then offer facts about Limbaugh that only serve to demonize him.
That makes my point as I said earlier.
Once again, I ask what political opinions offered by Limbaugh can the liberals refute? And refute by counter-argument of his stated political opinions that is free of "killing the messenger" demonization of Limbaugh personally?
Arnold is demeaned as being only a simple-minded muscle man by Gurl, and you and Gurl describe Bush as being stupid on the basis of mild dysarthria, which many people have, including Mensa level people like myself (at times I mispronounce some words, but very rarely, just as Bush sometimes does).
But stupid I am not, and stupid Bush is not. Bush is smart enough to make excellent judgements, and good judgement is more important than intelligence (and yes, they are separate traits, though they have some positive correlation). More importantly, Bush has excellent leadership skills that, unlike Clinton's flawed leadership, are not based excessively on a desire to accomodate and please others. Clinton let Usama bin Laden do as he pleased, in spite of knowing the Usama was the instigator of terrorists attacks that killed USA citizens, out of a desire to please other nations who would be agaisnt the USA taking military action to protect itself as they want to see the USA be taken down (Europe, except for Britain, Russia, China, N. Korea, and the Arab and/or Islamic nations). Bush exercised excellent leadership and put the USA ahead of such nations that want to see us taken down some.
Once again, all liberals can do is cry and complain about realistic and effective conservative opinions/solutions (excluding religious-based ones that are invalid to the extent they depend on religion), and argue against them by personal attacks. This is the level of high school thinking or liberal thinking - the same.
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quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: Steven Pearlstein, Washington Post:
"It is the Cox nomination, however, that signals the return to pliant directors, misleading financial statements, disenfranchised shareholders and runaway executive salaries. Cox's philosophy of corporate governance is that investors who don't like how a company is run should simply sell their shares and put their money somewhere else. Look for Cox to make it easier and cheaper for companies to issue new shares of stock, even when they have no business doing so, while soft-peddling enforcement against big brokerage and insurance firms that merely aid and abet corporate fraud but don't actually do it themselves...
It is the Cox nomination, however, that signals the return to pliant directors, misleading financial statements, disenfranchised shareholders and runaway executive salaries. Cox's philosophy of corporate governance is that investors who don't like how a company is run should simply sell their shares and put their money somewhere else. Look for Cox to make it easier and cheaper for companies to issue new shares of stock, even when they have no business doing so, while soft-peddling enforcement against big brokerage and insurance firms that merely aid and abet corporate fraud but don't actually do it themselves."
Please visit here and write objections to senators,
If Cox takes over the SEC, you will suffer financial losses through his creation of an environment which embraces corporate fraud and crime.
He will render the SEC impotent.
You WILL suffer significant future financial losses if you do nothing.
Write to senators or resign to being victimized.
Wow! Cox is for capitalism where the rule of regulation is "buyer beware"? Does this mean I have to take personal reponsibility for my bad investment decisions? I can't rely on a totally unreliable government anymore now that Cox is coming in? Oh, if only we had communism!
Clinton was repsonsible for the recent corporate scandals like Enron. They started and developed under his watch. Investors were rspinsible for these scandals in blindly investing. Buyer beware always rules and an inept government beauracracy can not be depended on. Bush properly went after the prosecution of those executives reponsible, and this is the best thing that can be done.
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quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: I will remind you, the reader, the ultimate responsibility for this attempt to destroy the SEC and return Wall Street to rampant fraud and crime, ultimate responsibility lies with President Bush.
Bush, during his two terms office, is making every effort to assist corporations in ripping off the American public, and every effort to shield financial criminals from accountability.
Although different types of activities, Bush is a crook equal to Richard Nixon.
President Bush is not a patriotic American.
Bush is a lame duck president with nothing to politically lose but a lot to gain financially.
Please write your senators. I truly believe most of you have no concept how critical of a situation is this. Your investing future will be ruined if you allow Cox to become head of the SEC.
If your personal ethics are such you don't care, then let your greed for money motivate you to take action against the Cox nomination.
You will consistently lose money with Cox in power.
Funny! I love paranoid humor. Keep up the posts about how Bush is trying to rip us all off. They are really funny.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: yeah whitewater was like the most expensive investigation that never proved anything...
hmmmm...
i think they were guilty, but, what a friggin' waste...
still, two wrongs don't make right and as long as people keep pointing fingers at the other party instead of cleaning their OWN house...we will continue to get reamed....
Yep, and the OJ trial cost millions, and the Scott Peterson trial cost millions - they never should have been charged in view of the judicial expenses involved.
In fact, it cost far too much to prosecute crime, and then incarcerate criminals. We should just ignore crime.
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nixon was an american hero, and did more for you libs than any president ever.
1. he ended the war in vietnam. 2. he invented the epa, 3. opened relations with china, 4. created nucler treaties... salt1 2 and etc 5. arms reduction treaties... 6. school lunches, day care, kindie garden, immunizations 7. college funding...
this list could go on for miles... nixon gave birth to practically everything liberal that ever was...
the problem here is that you people just spout the party line... if perhaps you had been alive back then you would know the country was doing quit well..... the country did not get broken till jimmy carter.
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