quote:Originally posted by mr_geronimo: I don't believe it could have been said any better. Buyer beware, but it's a little too late for that with MLON.
Cheers Blue!
you guys crack me up! just trying to hold down the price so YOU can get it at a better price? that spike to .0035 on hte 6,7th? that was in 1 day and 2 hrs of trading..... anybody with chart reading skills knows that was a small group or even one person buying EVERYTHING they could get their hands on as fast as they could.....nobody throws away 100grand$ like that.....
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glass, i respect your opinions, you and i have been posting back and forth a long time now, and i think you have an idea of the kinds of stocks i buy and don't buy.
i can assure you, i will never buy a single share of MLON in my life, i am not trying to "keep the price down so i can buy" or anything like that. i'm not a "basher" with any self-serving means, i'm just a regular guy speaking his honest opinions.
also, i seriously doubt anything *i* can say will have any effect on the price, probably only dardadog has the real ability to move share price on this board because so many people (rightly) follow his picks.
anyway, like i originally posted: i think it's possible to make a lot of $ on MLON *if* you play it right. it's just not the kind of stock or company that interests me, and i think caution is advised, especially for newbies, on this one.
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LOL--i know blue.....i didn't mean to lump you into the basher bunch...and i apologise if i offended you... the bashers do feed off of comments made by people with solid reputations (like you) tho....
the trading on this one has become very interesting... i have been watching it for months....not very closely (until last week) mind you, but the naked short, pinksheet manipulation game is being played out here... if in fact it was naked shorted, i think that a lot of what i have seen makes sense...
however, i can't say for sure what is happening since i have no access to inside info either at the MM's, MLON, or the SEC, so i am just watching closely to learn....
most of my interest is because i have seen quite a few GOOD companies that can't go anywhere,( even go way down for no apparent reason) and i am just trying to figure out how to explain why a good profitable can't get any action, where shells can.....
since i have been subscribing to OTCcharts this year, i have been able to get a sort of an overview of the otcbb market, and what i seem to be seeing is disappointing from an entrepreneurial point of view...yes a lot of these co's are garbage, but not all of them. the MM's don't seem to care....(PG pointed this out to us months ago, and she was correct, i have seen for myself)
why would the MM's tank a company just because they aren't trading a lot of shares? because they make money on the trades...letting it grow steadily isn't in the MM's interest, they want MORE trades...so they increase volatility as best they can...
i suspect that this may be the reason that some comnapanies have resorted to going to finace companies to do private placements... i won't mention names, but some of these private placements have turned out badly as well...so the growing comapany is caught between a rock and a hard palce cuz the MM's don't care what the price is as long as they can stimulate volume, and some of the private palcement comapnies are actually short-selling (sometimes from off-shore) before they buy the stock...locking in profits before the stock purchase is ever done.....
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it's definitely frustrating at times, seeing good and profitable companies like, say, CLSI and BSIC and HOM go nowhere, while junk with no hope of ever making a profit skyrockets every day on the OTC. and i follow stories about naked shorting and MM manipulation closely, i agree that it's wise to be untrusting and wary of MM's.
following the otc, it's tempting to just play whatever company is "hot", irregardless of any fundamentals. still, maybe admittedly partly because Purl is my "yoda", and partly because maybe i'm skeptical by nature; i'm still sticking to trying to find good, undervalued, real companies and weeding out ones i don't like. i believe that over time, if one is just looking for a reasonable 10-20% yearly gain, that "fundamentals win out". picking good companies, that make profits, that have increasing revenues, that have good balance sheets and good future prospects, will be better over time than playing every rollercoaster that comes down the pike.
i'm sure someone like dardadog can easily outperform my return being a daytrader, he is obviously a master at playing the OTC. i never claimed to have any great stock picking skills, i just call 'em as i see 'em. and maybe i'm simply out of my element on the OTC, and should be investing in larger-cap stocks. i seem to just have a different style/bent/interest than most people here; anyone that has read my posts knows that i always call myself a "boring investor". me, i'm just trying to be "right" 6 out of 10 times, and to make 20% a year. i can live without catching big rocketrides, as long as i don't also take any big losses.
for now, i'm going to stick with what i'm doing; trying to find good, profitable, promising companies, and ignoring the pink sheets where you have no idea what balance sheets and profits are. maybe i'm naive and the MM's will manipulate everything so that i won't do well. maybe they won't. i dunno. but i'm not ready to give up on the value of good DD and looking for good, undiscovered companies, at least not yet.
also, i think there is value in criticism, when it comes to stocks. boards shouldn't just be just for "pumping", any more than they should just be for "bashing". again, maybe i'm naive here, but - am sticking here will allstocks, hoping to find good discourse with good posters like you, with *both* pros and cons on stocks. what's the point of having a discussion board, if all points of view aren't accepted? we both know that most of why purl left was that there wasn't enough rational, give-and-take discussion of stocks. i hope allstocks will remain a place where all opinions, positive or negative, will be heard out and taken on their merits.
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i am somewhere between you and Dog... i look for these 100% to1000%ers all the time and play SOME of them, (mostly OTCBB not pink,tho) but am making sure to set aside and protect my working capital.
i assume that everybody that plays pinks realizes that its trading and not investing... that's why scottrade won't allow their customers to buy pinks online you have to cal in...
like i said before, dog does daytrades, and this one he said buy and hold...very unusual and got my attention.... mayb turn 25 shares of GE into 250(0)???? LOL
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Mellon Research, Inc. Receives Offer to Sell Company 12/17/2004 2:02:00 PM SCOTTSDALE, Ariz., Dec 17, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Mellon Research, Inc. ( MLON ) the market leader in providing boutique investment banking services to private mid cap companies is announcing today it has received two bids to purchase the entire firm for a previous mentioned rate on or before the audit and our visit to the Middle East next year.
We now have a strong commitment from two reputable firms interested in offering us a lucrative opportunity that we will offer our shareholders. All offers will be posted in writing and placed in The Wall Street Journal for shareholder consideration. Shares will be tendered after a vote from all shareholders.
Mellon Research, Inc. has the rights to market the investor relations of the most effective Type II diabetes prevention treatment program in the United States.
"In our opinion this company will become the most prominent and powerful stock our firm has ever worked with. Our relationship with the owner has brought our firm closer to the opportunities we are truly interested in."
About Mellon Research, Inc.
Founded in the fall of 2003 by Mario Pino - Mellon Research provides comprehensive boutique investment banking consulting services to enable private companies to raise capital via: IPO's, Reverse Mergers, Bridge Capital and or other financial vehicles. Mellon Research is the only multi-national boutique financial services firm that is offering client companies with a structured funding process built around its Financial Prep(TM) services. These services provide client firms with a methodology that helps them analyze existing corporate structure, financial and marketing needs to help them make the right strategic choices necessary to raise capital or go public. For more information please contact Mario Pino, CEO, 602-912-5870, 2415 E. Camelback Road, Suite 700, Phoenix, AZ 85016, mellonresearch@aol.com, www.mellonresearch.com
This release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Litigation Reform Act. The statements reflect the company's current views with respect to future events that involve risks and uncertainties including uncertainties related to successful negotiations with other parties, closing of transactions, capital availability, operational and other risks, uncertainties and factors described from time to time in the company's publicly available SEC reports. In light of these risks and uncertainties, the forward-looking events described in this release might not occur.
SOURCE: Mellon Research, Inc.
Mellon Research, Inc. Mario Pino, 602-912-5870
Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved.
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Mellon Research, Inc. To Offer Significant Dividends 12/17/2004 3:35:00 PM SCOTTSDALE, Ariz., Dec 17, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Mellon Research, Inc. (OTCBB: MLON.PK) the market leader in providing boutique investment banking services to private mid cap companies is announcing today that it will offer significant dividends to all shareholders of record as of today's date, December 17, 2004.
"Our firm has acquired enough cash flow to offer dividends to our shareholders of record and reward them for their patience and investment in our firm," quotes Mario Pino, President and CEO of Mellon Research, Inc.
We will offer our stock before anyone tenders an offer above 10 cents a share to our investors, at a discount to market rates. "We feel anyone willing to buy more that 250,000,000 shares should be able to purchase the stock at a 20% discount to the bid rate, once the stock reaches 1 penny."
Mellon Research, Inc. will announce the shareholder meeting and sale of its entire firm in The Wall Street Journal when our buy back and audit is complete to offer a fair bidding process for the firm. No offers below 5 cents per share will be accepted at this time.
About Mellon Research, Inc.
Founded in the fall of 2003 by Mario Pino - Mellon Research provides comprehensive boutique investment banking consulting services to enable private companies to raise capital via: IPO's, Reverse Mergers, Bridge Capital and or other financial vehicles. Mellon Research is the only multi-national boutique financial services firm that is offering client companies with a structured funding process built around its Financial Prep(TM) services. These services provide client firms with a methodology that helps them analyze existing corporate structure, financial and marketing needs to help them make the right strategic choices necessary to raise capital or go public. For more information please contact Mario Pino, CEO, 602.912.5870, 2415 E. Camelback Road, Suite 700, Phoenix, AZ 85016, mellonresearch@aol.com, www.mellonresearch.com
This release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Litigation Reform Act. The statements reflect the company's current views with respect to future events that involve risks and uncertainties including uncertainties related to successful negotiations with other parties, closing of transactions, capital availability, operational and other risks, uncertainties and factors described from time to time in the company's publicly available SEC reports. In light of these risks and uncertainties, the forward-looking events described in this release might not occur.
SOURCE: Mellon Research, Inc.
Mellon Research, Inc. Mario Pino, 602-912-5870 mellonresearch@aol.com www.mellonresearch.com
Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved
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ha ha aha, don't forget me glass, you know i'd be right there with her!!
heh, i miss the queen bee, bet she would have some interesting and amusing comments on this one. personally, not sure what to say, but - glad you're having fun with this one though glass. kind of like a youthful fling with a wild woman, compared to some of the more boring stocks you and i both usually "settle down with",. eh?! heh
[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman: [B]the only thing that would make my day better is for PG to show up and spank me for buying this stock
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well, blue, i appreciate the sentiment, but, well, idunno,somehow, i just don't think i would enjoy it as much from you, no offense but...
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i HAVE FOLLOWED mlon FOR A FEW WEEKS. I have never seen a string of News Releases like that. The claims are preposterous. The numbers are so latrge they simply cannot be beleived. The News is all over the place. They are a Mining, IR, Finance, and entertainment company but yet run out of a rented desk in a business center.
The CEO had many years of dubious offshore up front fee financing schemes and proven links to the DOM. He also has a solid Rap sheet from buth San Diego country and from Arizona - all searchable and verifyable.
And most news never happens or he hopes we will forget. I am not short as I do not know anyone who would let me. I would be willing to short it if I could. However I will continue to wtach because god only knows what his next NR will be
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Glassman, the bashers are working overtime on this one putting out lots of MIS-information. One thing they like to harp on is an alcohol related incident with Mario (if it is the same Mario) years back. I have to ask who hasn't had some problem in the past. Who "Didn't inhale", Who in the Whitehouse has had an alcohol prob? Who's getting a bj in the oval office? etc. I'm still skeptical, but at the same time the company DID pay the dividend they promised in Oct. and have stated they will issue another to those who were holders Dec. 17. They are 5 weeks into the audit which should be completed soon and I believe they are trying hard to become a reporting company. Rip.off.report has a "story" posted about Pina and Nick Botha which I, nor anyone I know, has been able to substantiate (you can post anything on that site). Someone out there has an agenda to bring MLON down as evidenced in their vindictive and unproven claims. Just take a peek at Raging Bull's MLON board and you will see what I mean. After taking a long look, I will disclose that I have taken a position and am VERY interested to see where we go after the hollidays. At this point I'm taking both sides with a grain of salt and will be watching closely, but my opinion is it is an organized bash of the company. IMHO
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The TWO DUI's Mario has in San Diego and Arizona really are a non-issue. The 80 some odd news releases with almost a 95% hit rate for failing are at issue.
It is also the incredulous wording whioch is way over the top. Marion doesnt sound like a CEO. He ssounds like a Board spammer and do note he did post on RB. here are some quotes from Nr's "signing and finalizing the contracts for the project in China that will allow the largest construction company in China to build the largest toll road in the country"never happened
"Mellon Research, Inc. will receive $50 Million USD " IPO never happened
"We intend to take Kinghero Fashion (Xiamen) Company Limited" another IPO that never happened. July 15 "meeting with our client in the next 60 days to map out a timeline to take them public via the OTC market here in the United States " a 3rd IPO within a month that never happened.
"Club XTreme(TM) which will blend a real world club that will be opening later this fall " never happened
Then we move through a lot of NRs about revenues buybacks and and Buyout overs at 50 times the current share price. -- add up all the news and lay it out on the table and look at the resources of the company, the histroy of the man and the history of the failures. Add in deals with the leader of the DOM.
Dec 16th "We also feel the earnings per share will also increase at least 1-2 cents per share and a selling price of 10-15 cents per share can now be seriously argued. " Wow with 12 Billion shares out that would be net earnings of $120 Million to $240 million a year. After tax. so what say you minimum revs of $300-500 Milll a year for a man running a company out of a rented desk.
One last one if I may. "Mellon Research has been offered $10,000,000 for the mezzanine level of investment and partial ownership of Mellon Research from one of the largest consortium of investors and wealthiest individual investors in the world. We will visit with a consortium of some of the wealthiest investors our world has seen in 50 (fifty) years, to personally take an interest in our firm"
This is a super sub penny PINK sheet listed stock. People do not get and did not get rich investing in pinkies. - this is preposterous
Let me point a few more IT spells PUMP and DUMP. Then add in a Nove SEC filing for the CEO to sell shares when he is publiclly announcing he is buying back shares.
at same time he is telling market that he has a buyout on table and he is buying back shares???
Melon, i notice you live in San Diego too....is this some personal problem thing? the fact is that we all know a lot of deals don't go through, that's BUSINESS......
as far as this filing, i think Mario did some stock swaps didn't he? that might be what the filing is about..... anyway saying you would short-sell a micro, and a pink at that, shows that you haven't though this thru very well.... shorting a stock at .0023 is just not smart.... it can only drop so far so if you buy and go long, your losses are limited to waht you spent,
regardless of how good or bad a company is, at this price, the co. has unlimited upside potential, which means that if you short-sell, your losses are UNLIMITED not smart..... i don't know why there is so much negative attitude here....somebody must be caught short, or trying really hard to accumaulate cheap shares BEFORE more news....
yes, this is a pink sheet....and YES people do get BIG, FAST profits/losses off of SOME pink sheets sometimes
will MLON be THE ONE? i don't know, but i am IN....... good luck...
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SHORT???? YOu point me to a broker that will let me short MLON and I will be there tomorrow morning with a suitcase.
I have read every news release. many times actually. One has to start digging into ERTDF and PRMN and one finds a common past between CEos and their past life with phony offshore financings. One then must look closer at the trading for RRBK and then ERTDF to see where these insane valuations are coming room. It is just all too hypich - even the wording of the news releases. Anyway I think one should flip this on news as volume allows but certainly do some DD if you think it is an investment. If it is a 155% gamble that you have alreadyw ritten off you entire MLON as a loss then who cares - dont even bother - IF it goes to zero then you are ok you already expected it if it stays here or goes up - all bonus.
Cheers - very very suspicious - I have pages and pages of backup that I am sharing with them. Yes I filed a complaint. And no I never ever had a run in with Mario in my life - never heard of him until a month ago
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not smart.....
