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Posted by keithsan on :
 
for those of you who don't know, this thing is going nuts.

i jumped in and don't usually play these.
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
i was so late to this party!!!!! and still up 10% on the sell side. should gap
 
Posted by deadjeep on :
 
Mellon Research Inc. Releases news to CNBC via e-mail and fax about MLON big increase in value
2:17 p.m. 12/06/2004 Provided by


SCOTTSDALE, Ariz., Dec 6, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Mellon Research, Inc. (Pink Sheets:MLON), the market leader in providing boutique investment banking services to private mid cap companies.

Mellon Research President and CEO Mario Pino has released news to CNBC via e-mail and fax to begin a global exposure announcement to the public at large effective today.

"With 1.5 billion in current volume Mellon Research should climb to the previously discussed price of .05 cents per share for a selling price to firms interested in purchasing Mellon Research." Claims Mario Pino, CEO and President of Mellon Research.

About Mellon Research, Inc.

Founded in the fall of 2003 by Mario Pino --Mellon Research provides comprehensive boutique investment banking consulting services to enable private companies to raise capital via: IPO's, Reverse Mergers, Bridge Capital and or other financial vehicles. Mellon Research is the only multi-national boutique financial services firm that is offering client companies with a structured funding process built around its Financial Prep services. These services provide client firms with a methodology that helps them analyze existing corporate structure, financial and marketing needs to help them make the right strategic choices necessary to raise capital or go public. For more information please contact Mario Pino, CEO, 602.912.5870, 2415 E. Camelback Road, Suite 700, Phoenix, AZ 85016, mellonresearch@aol.com, www.mellonresearch.com

This release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Litigation Reform Act. The statements reflect the company's current views with respect to future events that involve risks and uncertainties including uncertainties related to successful negotiations with other parties, closing of transactions, capital availability, operational and other risks, uncertainties and factors described from time to time in the company's publicly available SEC reports. In light of these risks and uncertainties, the forward-looking events described in this release might not occur.

Mellon Research, Inc. Mario Pino, 602-912-5870 mellonresearch@aol.com www.mellonresearch.com


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Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
"With 1.5 billion in current volume Mellon Research should climb to the previously discussed price of .05 cents per share "

can someone explain the causality/"why" of this statement? because they have billions of shares, they should be worth 5 cents? does that mean CMKX should be worth 5 bucks because they have trillions of shares? i'm confused, am i missing something?
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
here's why

Mellon Research, Mesa, Arizona, on December 3, 2004 will begin an aggressive stock buy back over the course of three weeks time of approximately 450,000,000 shares.

 


Posted by morgan on :
 
thats about 40,000 dollars in buy backs..

this is a pump and dump but i am riding anyway
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
hey blue, you should know by now not to try to make sense of this stuff....LOL

just grab a little bit of carpet and enjoy the show......
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
Anybody know which company is banking and which is extreme club.Wlsc and mlon websites list them as banking and are the same website.LOL Latest pr's are strange.How are you Glassman and do you understand what the hell company is what.LOL

[This message has been edited by tigertony (edited December 06, 2004).]
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
TT huh?
 
Posted by deadjeep on :
 
Sow whats the sell limit? .009?
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
Hey keith,mlon is suppossed to be extreme club and wlsc is suppossed to be the banking company.The press releases don't make sense and the websites say the same thing.HUH LOL
Haven't had time lately to do stocks much.
www.mellonresearch.com

www.wallstsecurities.com
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
dog has never shafted me...

he isn't always right, BUT, if he was, i would run screaming......

this one is a loinin sperience for me....
i'm wartchin' and loinin....

LOL....


 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
TT- im playing a runner, i havent even read the pr's.

dead jeep what? sell limit?

hey glass, been wondering where you been lately, thought i'd see you on SHRN, it was your kind of play.

Dog never shafted me either, I always check out his plays. Who you fooling, you've played pink runners in the past....
 


Posted by morgan on :
 
I am on this one mlon I am also on
ibzt its running... and I am thinking
about getting on shrn...

the mlon press release says a .05
could it be.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 

way back in the heat of summer dog said he was going to accumalate 15 mill sh and sell for a dime..........
he gots his 15 mill.....
now we hold for the dime...


( i didn't get that many, and,)

i might sell a few at a nickel...

mine is not to question why......

bring in the EOD teams...
the time schedules are a little off, but not a lot off when you are messing with this kind of explosives....LOL

i'm in cheap enough to buy more as it goes up too....

have fun and don't take this one too seriously.....

got sick of some of the whiners down in micro's--i don't play pinks, but this one has that certain one-armed bandit feel to it for me....more fun than a scratch ticket....
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
LOL I here you guys I have been mired in this for awhile and am at break even point trying to figure when to jump out.Just let it run somemore.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by keithsan:
TT- im playing a runner, i havent even read the pr's.

dead jeep what? sell limit?

hey glass, been wondering where you been lately, thought i'd see you on SHRN, it was your kind of play.

Dog never shafted me either, I always check out his plays. Who you fooling, you've played pink runners in the past....


you did just fine on SHRN without me.....LOL
i bought it so long ago (early august), i couldn't believe it when it ran....i'm just glad i didn't have sell order on it...

i'm not back into shouting mode yet...after Xmas, i'll probably have forgotten that nobody listened to me during the election and start posting a little more seriously

QBID.....and zippppppp
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
LOL I here you guys I have been mired in this for awhile and am at break even point trying to figure when to jump out.Just let it run somemore.


you know i don't offer buy or sell prices Tony...LOL
but i do expect to see it hit a dime SOMEDAY...LOL
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
What election.LOL
 
Posted by tigertony on :
 
I am holding you to a dime as prediction.LOL Hey keith i am sure sorry i sold vivi even though I made some nice bank 3 or 4 runs.Missed being around to play it last week,went from .24 to .44 Wahh
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
sounds like its your lottery day glass.

tt i sold that thing at .08 and stopped watching it....could've played it a hundred times for bank, thought i knew what it was going to do.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
this week has been OK, i'm still a little irritated about some that i got off of when they dropped and then didn't buy back into.....
i suggest you guys watch to see if TNGOE loses the E soon....i am looking to load up a ton if/when it does....

and PJTGE too....
i've played that one 4 or five times between .055 and .075 since July...the MM's guard it pretty close tho...they don't sell very many for .055....selling under .08 has been easy tho..
 


Posted by tigertony on :
 
If there is one thing I have figured out you can never be sure what the reaction will be.Thanks I will keep my I on them.Watching SVSE looking at some gas and heating plays.If I hold at all it tanks,if I sell it skyrockets.Been getting in and out and getting some free shares to keep.why did i not keep some free shares of vivi.LOL
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
big gap here. should break .002 early morning
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
hey keith could we possibly break into the 3's today...........
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
yep, a lot of profit taking on that dip, we need to break HOD first
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
HOD is history!! push down pull up and enjoy your ride!!!
 
Posted by veloyt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by keithsan:
for those of you who don't know, this thing is going nuts.

i jumped in and don't usually play these.


Is it too late to get in here or is this just the deat cat bounce

 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
its never too late, but if it turns get out.
should be 35 by morning
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
so keith are we maybe pullin' into the 4's..........?? LOL........it's a GREAT day!!
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
no joke on the 4's i about tripled from my eod buy yesterday and i'aint even sweating
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
Im wit ya Keith I got in late yesterday at .0013 and thought I may have made a mistake.......but it's one hellofaday......ask just keeps goin' and goin' wit da bid followin'..........as dog says "gotta love dis CHIT!!"
 
Posted by RJM_27 on :
 
What's up with MLON?? I just got in but it keeps going down. Anybody got any good news out there on this one???
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
lunch time dip
 
Posted by RJM_27 on :
 
If I knew it would have taken that kind of a dip I should have waited about 20 minutes to get in. I guess that's just the way the market goes though!!! Sometimes you wait too long sometimes you don't wait long enough!!
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
picking up some here for the afternoon run
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
hey keith what's your opinion you think we'll hit the 3's again on the afternoon run??
 
Posted by yes on :
 
It's "Dawn of the Almost-Dead" today, lol.

PRRM just hit .0003 as well.
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
laod up kids load up
2004-12-07 13:16:31
Mellon Research, Inc. Announces New Purchase Price and Bid for New Name

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SCOTTSDALE, Ariz., Dec. 7, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- Mellon Research, Inc. (Pink
Sheets:MLON), the market leader in providing boutique investment banking
services to private mid cap companies:

Due to the numerous offers made to purchase or merge with our firm, Mellon
Research will raise the minimum offer to sell the firm at .10 cents per share.
No further details regarding an increase in the purchase price of our firm will
be provided. Mellon Research is announcing our interest in securing the Kidder,
Peabody name from UBS/Paine Webber with a consortium of former Kidder, Peabody
employees and money management firms.

"I intend to plead our case directly to the shareholders of UBS/PaineWebber
through the Wall Street Journal and at the annual shareholders meeting to
convince the shareholders this is a prudent and profitable tender offer," claims
Mario Pino, CEO of Mellon Research.

About Mellon Research, Inc.


 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
gonna break 4 today
 
Posted by yes on :
 
Did they ever dump the club concept? I never really kept up-to-date except I heard them state in a later PR that it wasnt going to be porn-based..
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
all i know is its gonna double again
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
that's what i wanted to hear!!!!!
 
Posted by diceman on :
 
All right im in.
Let ride it up.
 
Posted by RJM_27 on :
 
Where is this 4 that I'm hearing about.....I'd settle for 3 right now!
 
Posted by fishstix on :
 
I am just hopping they can pump this up to .02 that would be a nice present.
 
Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
this an ugly afternoon.........chit
 
Posted by RJM_27 on :
 
Yeah no kidding it's all the way down to the price I originally had in to buy it but I moved it up thinking that it wouldn't get back down there. Opps! Guess I was wrong.

What's up with this thing? Is it going to see the light of day at all??? Is everything else getting killed out there today?
 


Posted by Ktrain420 on :
 
just that CHITY pr that they put out ...!!!!
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
I bought more for that PR, wrong move, it gapped and tanked.

I could have given a seminar on how to not make as much as possible on a stock.

these damn subbers, i need to learn to take my money and run.
 


Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
the best laugh i had all day was reading about the .10/share minimum in the PR, truly comical. i'm not surprised it crashed, but admit that i'm still scratching my head over why this turkey ran so much.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
somebody is buyin the company.....
i think we are gonna see more action before this is all done....

you guys aren't having fun?????
 


Posted by deadjeep on :
 
hay did some research and found this. Did I miss something need a translation.


Mellon Research Announces Private Placement -
Trading as OTCBB: MLON


SCOTTSDALE, Ariz.--Nov. 17, 2004--Mellon Research (OTCBB: MLON) the market leader in providing boutique investment banking services to private mid cap companies is announcing a private placement for its subsidiary Wall Street Securities, Inc.

"We are announcing a private placement for its subsidiary, Wall Street Securities, Inc. (OTCBB: WLSC) today," said Mario Pino, CEO of Mellon Research, Inc. "A dividend will be released tax-free for every 100 shares of Mellon Research, one share of Wall Street Securities, Inc will be provided effective for holders of record dated November 4, 2004. Mellon Research has reported revenue of two firms (publicly traded), in the amount of $500,000 to be received November and December 2004. Mellon Research will begin a relationship with Extreme Entertainment effective immediately to start filming and coordinate on-air activities with MTV by January 2005. We are excited to begin the expansion of Mellon Research to broaden its horizons now that revenue has been received, and we have acquired a marginable long term asset of $140,000,000 providing our firm a potential cash infusion of $10,000,000. A world wide web-cast will be mentioned next week on a radio show and broadcasted throughout the internet via our media sources."


About Mellon Research, Inc.

Founded in the fall of 2003 by Mario Pino - Mellon Research provides comprehensive boutique investment banking consulting services to enable private companies to raise capital via: IPO's, Reverse Mergers, Bridge Capital and or other financial vehicles. Mellon Research is the only multi-national boutique financial services firm that is offering client companies with a structured funding process built around its Financial Prep(TM) services. These services provide client firms with a methodology that helps them analyze existing corporate structure, financial and marketing needs to help them make the right strategic choices necessary to raise capital or go public. For more information please contact Mario Pino, CEO, 602.912.5870, 2415 E. Camelback Road, Suite 700, Phoenix, AZ 85016, mellonresearch@aol.com, www.wallstsecurities.com


This release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Litigation Reform Act. The statements reflect the company's current views with respect to future events that involve risks and uncertainties including uncertainties related to successful negotiations with other parties, closing of transactions, capital availability, operational and other risks, uncertainties and factors described from time to time in the company's publicly available SEC reports. In light of these risks and uncertainties, the forward-looking events described in this release might not occur.


CONTACT: Mellon Research
Mario Pino, 602-912-5870
mellonresearch@aol.com www.wallstsecurities.com

 


Posted by RJM_27 on :
 
Can someone break that down in simple English??
 
Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
maybe you're right glass, but - i just can't do it. i can't bring myself to buy a company that i consider to be junk. who knows, this turkey may grow wings again, and i might miss a 10-bagger in a day. it's my own limitation/fault, but - i just can't buy crap like this, even i think it's going to go up.

seriously, can you tell me that you didn't laugh at the whole 10c a share thing? that's what - a billion dollars? pppfffft, yeah right... maybe i'll sell a box of q-tips for $67 million to anyone dumb enough to pay $1B+ for MLON.

i dunno, maybe i'm in the wrong markets, but i'll stick with my admittedly more boring stocks. i'm always looking for a "safe" 20% a year return, i can live with that.

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
somebody is buyin the company.....
i think we are gonna see more action before this is all done....

you guys aren't having fun?????



 


Posted by fishstix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
somebody is buyin the company.....
i think we are gonna see more action before this is all done....

you guys aren't having fun?????


Yeah Glass I am still scraching my head on this one.

I have a few shares that I will not sell Hell or High water until we get more details. If there is a buyout in the works even at .01 PPS that would rocket the stock. I am still thying to figure out what is going on in that PR above. I will not see any shares from dividend buy this thing sounds interesting. I would love to hear some of your views.


 


Posted by fishstix on :
 
I agree on the .10 thing they lost a lot of credibility with that PR .05 seemed crazy now they proved they are nuts.

quote:
Originally posted by blue_in_MI:
maybe you're right glass, but - i just can't do it. i can't bring myself to buy a company that i consider to be junk. who knows, this turkey may grow wings again, and i might miss a 10-bagger in a day. it's my own limitation/fault, but - i just can't buy crap like this, even i think it's going to go up.


seriously, can you tell me that you didn't laugh at the whole 10c a share thing? that's what - a billion dollars? pppfffft, yeah right... maybe i'll sell a box of q-tips for $67 million to anyone dumb enough to pay $1B+ for MLON.

i dunno, maybe i'm in the wrong markets, but i'll stick with my admittedly more boring stocks. i'm always looking for a "safe" 20% a year return, i can live with that.



 


Posted by glassman on :
 
what can i say....
i've been posting here long enough for some of you to know that i am not Trump or whatever that guy in Omaha's name is...you know the really rich one.....
anyway, i try to invest responsibly MOST of the time, but i do take some risks...
i played QBID last year and thanx to dog i took over 500% on it... that's the only pink i have traded before...
when dog came with this one, he talked differently about it...
dog never pumped anything before...and i have been here to see just about all of his picks....( i don't play pinks OMOG i played too...almmost forgot)...)
i'm not saying dog PUMPED this one, but compared to ANY other of his picks, it would be pumping...
i have LOST money in GOOD companies before....and i've watched quite few TURDS float right on to the top of the bowl so i'm playing this one on money that i would have spent on something dumb,like another big monitor or a small plasma TV LOL

what is boutique banking anyway??? i might want to hire this guy to help me start a public offering someday myself.....so i hope he makes it...


i wonder how many people said Berkshire Hathaway would never see 100$????LOL

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
how long does it take for a turd to float to the top of the bowl anyways?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
well let's see.....how high did ENRON go????LOL

yahoo has a PE of 98.1 right now....

google? PE 205.8 ......hmmmmmm
and its down to 172.....LOL


 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
glass you lost me

i thought we were talking turds not pe
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i didn't mean to drift...LOL

i think Mario could write better PR's no question....

seems like he tries to force the price down himself....

oh yeah......he was...
Mellon Research, Mesa, Arizona, on December 3, 2004 will begin an aggressive stock buy back over the course of three weeks time of approximately 450,000,000 shares
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
my observations on MLON/WLSC have been that they have drawn MORE attention from bashers than they deserve....


could mean nothing...but i doubt it...LOL
 


Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
MLON News:
http://www.amtdrt.inlumen.com/bin/story?StoryId=CqBFB0bWbmZq0CdK3mty
 
Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
hmm, that .10 not looking too likely at the moment. maybe with a 1000-for-1 RS first.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
RS would be counter to Mario's stated goals...
he's not hiding...he answers the phone...sure, he lacks some of the polish of the NYNY armani sharks..i actually like that...but then i AM a redneck museff...LOL

i have been watching the RS action this year and find it disgusting....

my instinck is to start DD'ing these RS co's and publishing the names and addresses/phone numbers of the stinkers responsible, since it looks like they are just plain making peoples money evaporate...

the only reason cmkx has been so successfull at "whatever" it is they have been doing is that UC has been highly visible himself...i do not equate these co's other than they are all pink shells....

i really do think Mario is interesting and anybody that puts their retirement money with him is crazy....
on the other hand, if you are looking for some excitement and have the ability to tolerate some real risk, i think there is a very good chance of seeing some returns here...

 


Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
hmm, down 40% to .0006; maybe they should lower the asking price to .09. snicker.

i'm sorry, but - really, is it fair to be upset if you bought this turkey on the run? it's pure pump and dump junk. *if* you play the game of music chairs correctly, i'm sure you can make a ton of $ on this or similar stocks. but - you'd sure as heck better take profits and take them quickly, if you want to start trading companies like MLON, if you ask me.

i'm sure this will irritate some people here, but - that's my opinion, and i'm stickin' to it. this company is a textbook example of why i try to stay away from junky pink stocks, even though i know full well that there's big $ to be made on them *IF* - and that's one mighty big if - you play them right.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
blue, i absolutely agree that its a pink sheet...and has only perceived value, but then what good is a stock?LOL
lighten up and have some fun once in awhile..
it doesn't look to me like they are just printing shares (so far) and if IN MY OIPINION they do start doing that, i'll be quick to point it out....i know what to watch for....
in the meantime, i'm not promoting it as anything other than a very interesting play...
you and i have bought many of the same stocks and we both know they haven't all delivered what they should/could...

QBID's run early this year to .028$ was a lot more amazing than a run to .10 would be for MLON based on the situation right now....
i am beginning to wonder if the PR writer's fisrt language is english tho.....
 


Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
heh yeah maybe you're right glass. eh i dunno, i admit it - i like mostly boring stocks, and don't look for huge returns. maybe i spent too much time learning at the feet of purl early on?! wish she didn't leave the board, *sigh*; she left right as i was getting started learning about the markets.

i have mixed feelings about speaking my mind about pink sheet stocks that i feel there, is, er - not much substance behind, like MLON. part of me wants to just bite my tongue. the other part though skims the qbid thread and reads about people who "invested" at .025 money that they really shouldn't have and couldn't afford to lose, people who were new to the OTC and not ready to swim with the sharks. i think you know i'm hardly a "basher" though, i'm just a regular guy, trying to save up for putting 2 kids through college, offering up my honest opinions. i'm sure i occasionally irk a few people with my opinion of pink sheet stocks, but - if even one person is more wary after reading them; then it was worth it, i figure.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
AND,i respect your opinions
i got down pretty hard on a pink sheet a few months back that i was sure was dumping shares...they were...
what did i get for my troubles? just some hard feelings..
did i save anybodies life? naahh...maybe a few people saved some money on it, but i bet they dumped it in the next one they saw anyway...LOL

i am quite sure PG would scold me for this...as a matter of fact i'm kinda hopin' she will

that would be better than being ignored....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 11, 2004).]
 


Posted by mr_geronimo on :
 
I don't believe it could have been said any better. Buyer beware, but it's a little too late for that with MLON.

Cheers Blue!


quote:
Originally posted by blue_in_MI:
hmm, down 40% to .0006; maybe they
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Posted by Mini Me on :
 
Looks like she is waking up again!
 
Posted by Mini Me on :
 
3@.0008 x 1@.001
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr_geronimo:
I don't believe it could have been said any better. Buyer beware, but it's a little too late for that with MLON.

Cheers Blue!



you guys crack me up! just trying to hold down the price so YOU can get it at a better price?
that spike to .0035 on hte 6,7th? that was in 1 day and 2 hrs of trading.....
anybody with chart reading skills knows that was a small group or even one person buying EVERYTHING they could get their hands on as fast as they could.....nobody throws away 100grand$ like that.....
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
it MAY even have been a nekked shirt bein' covered up......BEFORE it's too late...
 
Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
glass, i respect your opinions, you and i have been posting back and forth a long time now, and i think you have an idea of the kinds of stocks i buy and don't buy.

i can assure you, i will never buy a single share of MLON in my life, i am not trying to "keep the price down so i can buy" or anything like that. i'm not a "basher" with any self-serving means, i'm just a regular guy speaking his honest opinions.

also, i seriously doubt anything *i* can say will have any effect on the price, probably only dardadog has the real ability to move share price on this board because so many people (rightly) follow his picks.

anyway, like i originally posted: i think it's possible to make a lot of $ on MLON *if* you play it right. it's just not the kind of stock or company that interests me, and i think caution is advised, especially for newbies, on this one.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
LOL--i know blue.....i didn't mean to lump you into the basher bunch...and i apologise if i offended you...
the bashers do feed off of comments made by people with solid reputations (like you) tho....

the trading on this one has become very interesting...
i have been watching it for months....not very closely (until last week) mind you, but the naked short, pinksheet manipulation game is being played out here...
if in fact it was naked shorted, i think that a lot of what i have seen makes sense...

however, i can't say for sure what is happening since i have no access to inside info either at the MM's, MLON, or the SEC, so i am just watching closely to learn....

most of my interest is because i have seen quite a few GOOD companies that can't go anywhere,( even go way down for no apparent reason) and i am just trying to figure out how to explain why a good profitable can't get any action, where shells can.....

since i have been subscribing to OTCcharts this year, i have been able to get a sort of an overview of the otcbb market, and what i seem to be seeing is disappointing from an entrepreneurial point of view...yes a lot of these co's are garbage, but not all of them. the MM's don't seem to care....(PG pointed this out to us months ago, and she was correct, i have seen for myself)

why would the MM's tank a company just because they aren't trading a lot of shares?
because they make money on the trades...letting it grow steadily isn't in the MM's interest, they want MORE trades...so they increase volatility as best they can...

i suspect that this may be the reason that some comnapanies have resorted to going to finace companies to do private placements...
i won't mention names, but some of these private placements have turned out badly as well...so the growing comapany is caught between a rock and a hard palce cuz the MM's don't care what the price is as long as they can stimulate volume, and some of the private palcement comapnies are actually short-selling (sometimes from off-shore) before they buy the stock...locking in profits before the stock purchase is ever done.....


[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
it's definitely frustrating at times, seeing good and profitable companies like, say, CLSI and BSIC and HOM go nowhere, while junk with no hope of ever making a profit skyrockets every day on the OTC. and i follow stories about naked shorting and MM manipulation closely, i agree that it's wise to be untrusting and wary of MM's.

following the otc, it's tempting to just play whatever company is "hot", irregardless of any fundamentals. still, maybe admittedly partly because Purl is my "yoda", and partly because maybe i'm skeptical by nature; i'm still sticking to trying to find good, undervalued, real companies and weeding out ones i don't like. i believe that over time, if one is just looking for a reasonable 10-20% yearly gain, that "fundamentals win out". picking good companies, that make profits, that have increasing revenues, that have good balance sheets and good future prospects, will be better over time than playing every rollercoaster that comes down the pike.

i'm sure someone like dardadog can easily outperform my return being a daytrader, he is obviously a master at playing the OTC. i never claimed to have any great stock picking skills, i just call 'em as i see 'em. and maybe i'm simply out of my element on the OTC, and should be investing in larger-cap stocks. i seem to just have a different style/bent/interest than most people here; anyone that has read my posts knows that i always call myself a "boring investor". me, i'm just trying to be "right" 6 out of 10 times, and to make 20% a year. i can live without catching big rocketrides, as long as i don't also take any big losses.

for now, i'm going to stick with what i'm doing; trying to find good, profitable, promising companies, and ignoring the pink sheets where you have no idea what balance sheets and profits are. maybe i'm naive and the MM's will manipulate everything so that i won't do well. maybe they won't. i dunno. but i'm not ready to give up on the value of good DD and looking for good, undiscovered companies, at least not yet.

also, i think there is value in criticism, when it comes to stocks. boards shouldn't just be just for "pumping", any more than they should just be for "bashing". again, maybe i'm naive here, but - am sticking here will allstocks, hoping to find good discourse with good posters like you, with *both* pros and cons on stocks. what's the point of having a discussion board, if all points of view aren't accepted? we both know that most of why purl left was that there wasn't enough rational, give-and-take discussion of stocks. i hope allstocks will remain a place where all opinions, positive or negative, will be heard out and taken on their merits.

 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i am somewhere between you and Dog...
i look for these 100% to1000%ers all the time and play SOME of them, (mostly OTCBB not pink,tho) but am making sure to set aside and protect my working capital.

i assume that everybody that plays pinks realizes that its trading and not investing...
that's why scottrade won't allow their customers to buy pinks online you have to cal in...

like i said before, dog does daytrades, and this one he said buy and hold...very unusual and got my attention....
mayb turn 25 shares of GE into 250(0)???? LOL
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
still moving up....
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
it's not too late here guys...

as Cracker said on Kerosene Hat....

if you wanna change the world, shut your mouth and get on with it....
 


Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
Mellon Research, Inc. Receives Offer to Sell Company
12/17/2004 2:02:00 PM
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz., Dec 17, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Mellon Research, Inc. ( MLON ) the market leader in providing boutique investment banking services to private mid cap companies is announcing today it has received two bids to purchase the entire firm for a previous mentioned rate on or before the audit and our visit to the Middle East next year.

We now have a strong commitment from two reputable firms interested in offering us a lucrative opportunity that we will offer our shareholders. All offers will be posted in writing and placed in The Wall Street Journal for shareholder consideration. Shares will be tendered after a vote from all shareholders.

Mellon Research, Inc. has the rights to market the investor relations of the most effective Type II diabetes prevention treatment program in the United States.

"In our opinion this company will become the most prominent and powerful stock our firm has ever worked with. Our relationship with the owner has brought our firm closer to the opportunities we are truly interested in."

About Mellon Research, Inc.

Founded in the fall of 2003 by Mario Pino - Mellon Research provides comprehensive boutique investment banking consulting services to enable private companies to raise capital via: IPO's, Reverse Mergers, Bridge Capital and or other financial vehicles. Mellon Research is the only multi-national boutique financial services firm that is offering client companies with a structured funding process built around its Financial Prep(TM) services. These services provide client firms with a methodology that helps them analyze existing corporate structure, financial and marketing needs to help them make the right strategic choices necessary to raise capital or go public. For more information please contact Mario Pino, CEO, 602-912-5870, 2415 E. Camelback Road, Suite 700, Phoenix, AZ 85016, mellonresearch@aol.com, www.mellonresearch.com

This release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Litigation Reform Act. The statements reflect the company's current views with respect to future events that involve risks and uncertainties including uncertainties related to successful negotiations with other parties, closing of transactions, capital availability, operational and other risks, uncertainties and factors described from time to time in the company's publicly available SEC reports. In light of these risks and uncertainties, the forward-looking events described in this release might not occur.

SOURCE: Mellon Research, Inc.

Mellon Research, Inc.
Mario Pino, 602-912-5870


Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved.


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
the only thing that would make my day better is for PG to show up and spank me for buying this stock

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 17, 2004).]


i'm still waiting................

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
Mellon Research, Inc. To Offer Significant Dividends
12/17/2004 3:35:00 PM
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz., Dec 17, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Mellon Research, Inc. (OTCBB: MLON.PK) the market leader in providing boutique investment banking services to private mid cap companies is announcing today that it will offer significant dividends to all shareholders of record as of today's date, December 17, 2004.

"Our firm has acquired enough cash flow to offer dividends to our shareholders of record and reward them for their patience and investment in our firm," quotes Mario Pino, President and CEO of Mellon Research, Inc.

We will offer our stock before anyone tenders an offer above 10 cents a share to our investors, at a discount to market rates. "We feel anyone willing to buy more that 250,000,000 shares should be able to purchase the stock at a 20% discount to the bid rate, once the stock reaches 1 penny."

Mellon Research, Inc. will announce the shareholder meeting and sale of its entire firm in The Wall Street Journal when our buy back and audit is complete to offer a fair bidding process for the firm. No offers below 5 cents per share will be accepted at this time.

About Mellon Research, Inc.

Founded in the fall of 2003 by Mario Pino - Mellon Research provides comprehensive boutique investment banking consulting services to enable private companies to raise capital via: IPO's, Reverse Mergers, Bridge Capital and or other financial vehicles. Mellon Research is the only multi-national boutique financial services firm that is offering client companies with a structured funding process built around its Financial Prep(TM) services. These services provide client firms with a methodology that helps them analyze existing corporate structure, financial and marketing needs to help them make the right strategic choices necessary to raise capital or go public. For more information please contact Mario Pino, CEO, 602.912.5870, 2415 E. Camelback Road, Suite 700, Phoenix, AZ 85016, mellonresearch@aol.com, www.mellonresearch.com

This release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Litigation Reform Act. The statements reflect the company's current views with respect to future events that involve risks and uncertainties including uncertainties related to successful negotiations with other parties, closing of transactions, capital availability, operational and other risks, uncertainties and factors described from time to time in the company's publicly available SEC reports. In light of these risks and uncertainties, the forward-looking events described in this release might not occur.

SOURCE: Mellon Research, Inc.

Mellon Research, Inc.
Mario Pino, 602-912-5870
mellonresearch@aol.com www.mellonresearch.com


Copyright (C) 2004 Business Wire. All rights reserved


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
if this WAS naked shorted, i think we will see that problem fixed.....
 
Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
Glass...If I didn't know any better..I'd swear you are getting excited about this pink...LOL
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i admit: it i'm ENJOYING myself.....LOL

it isn't just the money either....
it's like watching a 99 yard drive in a football game...against the number one defense....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
Me too.....
 
Posted by blue_in_MI on :
 
ha ha aha, don't forget me glass, you know i'd be right there with her!!

heh, i miss the queen bee, bet she would have some interesting and amusing comments on this one. personally, not sure what to say, but - glad you're having fun with this one though glass. kind of like a youthful fling with a wild woman, compared to some of the more boring stocks you and i both usually "settle down with",. eh?! heh

[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman:
[B]the only thing that would make my day better is for PG to show up and spank me for buying this stock


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
well, blue, i appreciate the sentiment, but, well, idunno,somehow, i just don't think i would enjoy it as much from you, no offense but...
 
Posted by Dardadog on :
 
Ruff!!! Hope everyone's enjoyin' dis one.

------------------
"Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster." The Art Of War - Sun Tzu

"Do Da Due - But Be Damn Quick About It"
Da Art Of Daytrading - Dardadog
 


Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
Well I'll be......the dog is in the house.....ruff indeed!

Hey dog.....you still like this one? any predictions? (in YHO of course...)

C'mon Monday....let's get this ball a rollin'
 


Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
It's walking up......
 
Posted by itchytrigger on :
 
Watch for news
 
Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
2 prs today so far....and she's running.....
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
nice start to the week...

i like this "shotgun" PR thingy


both barrels......
 


Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
bout' time you showed up glass.....I was beginning to think you sold.....

Hoping to close at HOD.
 


Posted by Buckey on :
 

i HAVE FOLLOWED mlon FOR A FEW WEEKS. I have never seen a string of News Releases like that. The claims are preposterous. The numbers are so latrge they simply cannot be beleived. The News is all over the place. They are a Mining, IR, Finance, and entertainment company but yet run out of a rented desk in a business center.

The CEO had many years of dubious offshore up front fee financing schemes and proven links to the DOM. He also has a solid Rap sheet from buth San Diego country and from Arizona - all searchable and verifyable.

And most news never happens or he hopes we will forget. I am not short as I do not know anyone who would let me. I would be willing to short it if I could. However I will continue to wtach because god only knows what his next NR will be
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
ya gotta be pretty tweaked out to shortsell a micro, esp. with a chart that looks like this......LOL

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by itchytrigger on :
 
Glassman, the bashers are working overtime on this one putting out lots of MIS-information. One thing they like to harp on is an alcohol related incident with Mario (if it is the same Mario) years back. I have to ask who hasn't had some problem in the past. Who "Didn't inhale", Who in the Whitehouse has had an alcohol prob? Who's getting a bj in the oval office? etc. I'm still skeptical, but at the same time the company DID pay the dividend they promised in Oct. and have stated they will issue another to those who were holders Dec. 17. They are 5 weeks into the audit which should be completed soon and I believe they are trying hard to become a reporting company.
Rip.off.report has a "story" posted about Pina and Nick Botha which I, nor anyone I know, has been able to substantiate (you can post anything on that site). Someone out there has an agenda to bring MLON down as evidenced in their vindictive and unproven claims. Just take a peek at Raging Bull's MLON board and you will see what I mean. After taking a long look, I will disclose that I have taken a position and am VERY interested to see where we go after the hollidays. At this point I'm taking both sides with a grain of salt and will be watching closely, but my opinion is it is an organized bash of the company. IMHO

 
Posted by Buckey on :
 
The TWO DUI's Mario has in San Diego and Arizona really are a non-issue. The 80 some odd news releases with almost a 95% hit rate for failing are at issue.

It is also the incredulous wording whioch is way over the top. Marion doesnt sound like a CEO. He ssounds like a Board spammer and do note he did post on RB. here are some quotes from Nr's
"signing and finalizing the contracts for the project in China that will allow the largest construction company in China to build the largest toll road in the country"never happened

"Mellon Research, Inc. will receive $50 Million USD " IPO never happened

"We intend to take Kinghero Fashion (Xiamen) Company Limited" another IPO that never happened.
July 15 "meeting with our client in the next 60 days to map out a timeline to take them public via the OTC market here in the United States " a 3rd IPO within a month that never happened.

"Club XTreme(TM) which will blend a real world club that will be opening later this fall " never happened

Then we move through a lot of NRs about revenues buybacks and and Buyout overs at 50 times the current share price. -- add up all the news and lay it out on the table and look at the resources of the company, the histroy of the man and the history of the failures. Add in deals with the leader of the DOM.

Dec 16th "We also feel the earnings per share will also increase at least 1-2 cents per share and a selling price of 10-15 cents per share can now be seriously argued. " Wow with 12 Billion shares out that would be net earnings of $120 Million to $240 million a year. After tax. so what say you minimum revs of $300-500 Milll a year for a man running a company out of a rented desk.

One last one if I may. "Mellon Research has been offered $10,000,000 for the mezzanine level of investment and partial ownership of Mellon Research from one of the largest consortium of investors and wealthiest individual investors in the world. We will visit with a consortium of some of the wealthiest investors our world has seen in 50 (fifty) years, to personally take an interest in our firm"

This is a super sub penny PINK sheet listed stock. People do not get and did not get rich investing in pinkies. - this is preposterous

Let me point a few more
IT spells PUMP and DUMP. Then add in a Nove SEC filing for the CEO to sell shares when he is publiclly announcing he is buying back shares.

and I love this recent one


 


Posted by Buckey on :
 
Here is the SEC filing in Nov to sell shares.
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=mellon+research&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany

at same time he is telling market that he has a buyout on table and he is buying back shares???
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MELON:
Here is the SEC filing in Nov to sell shares.
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=mello n+research&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany

at same time he is telling market that he has a buyout on table and he is buying back shares???


Melon, i notice you live in San Diego too....is this some personal problem thing? the fact is that we all know a lot of deals don't go through, that's BUSINESS......

as far as this filing, i think Mario did some stock swaps didn't he? that might be what the filing is about.....
anyway saying you would short-sell a micro, and a pink at that, shows that you haven't though this thru very well.... shorting a stock at .0023 is just not smart....
it can only drop so far so if you buy and go long, your losses are limited to waht you spent,

regardless of how good or bad a company is, at this price, the co. has unlimited upside potential, which means that if you short-sell, your losses are UNLIMITED not smart.....
i don't know why there is so much negative attitude here....somebody must be caught short, or trying really hard to accumaulate cheap shares BEFORE more news....

yes, this is a pink sheet....and YES people do get BIG, FAST profits/losses off of SOME pink sheets sometimes

will MLON be THE ONE? i don't know, but i am IN.......
good luck...
 


Posted by itchytrigger on :
 
Repost:

Anyone, pls repost:

THE DILIGIZER BOARD

It has come to our attention that wrongful information concerning Mario Pino and Wall Street Securities has been maliciously posted on this board under:

Subject: Re: MARIO PINO or WALL STREET SECURITIES LLC
Posted By: pichincha
Posted At: 10/25/01 11:27:20 pm In Reply To: 436

We would like to categorically state that neither Mr. Pino nor Wall Street Securities have ever engaged in any fraudulent activity. We furthermore state that that neither Mr. Pino nor Wall Street Securities have ever had dealings with Nico Botha, or Simon King.

If anybody has any quiestions, please do to hesitate to contact us at:
world @ highyieldinvestmentprogram net, wallstreetsecurities @ hotmail com,

or in writing to our London office;

Wall Street Securities
33 St James Square,
London W1Y 4JS
United Kingdom

 


Posted by Buckey on :
 
SHORT???? YOu point me to a broker that will let me short MLON and I will be there tomorrow morning with a suitcase.

I have read every news release. many times actually. One has to start digging into ERTDF and PRMN and one finds a common past between CEos and their past life with phony offshore financings. One then must look closer at the trading for RRBK and then ERTDF to see where these insane valuations are coming room. It is just all too hypich - even the wording of the news releases. Anyway I think one should flip this on news as volume allows but certainly do some DD if you think it is an investment. If it is a 155% gamble that you have alreadyw ritten off you entire MLON as a loss then who cares - dont even bother - IF it goes to zero then you are ok you already expected it if it stays here or goes up - all bonus.

Cheers - very very suspicious - I have pages and pages of backup that I am sharing with them. Yes I filed a complaint. And no I never ever had a run in with Mario in my life - never heard of him until a month ago
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
well melon, i don't think you do get it....
nobody around here thinks it is an investment it's a pink sheet; completely different animal....

we are looking for hot stocks here, not boredom....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by Raptorsrule on :
 
Nice animation.....You guys crack me up....like glass said...this is not an investment...but I'll bet it makes one helluva run.....I've flipped it already and plan to do so at least twice more....Go Mario....do that P&D magic......

Good luck to all and stay sharp.....05' is almost here!



 


Posted by j griggs on :
 
Hey guys,

I'm new to trading. I own businesses but have never really traded before. Just some longterm stuff...

So I bought these shares according to some of the postings I read here (don't worry, I'm new but I have the money to lose just in case). I just want to see what happens.

My big question:

Some talk about unlimited losses. I hope I'm not in this scenario. Let's say... I have an etrade account and I bought $1,000 worth of MLON (none of that fancy stuff, I just bought them). My potential loss is only $1,000 right? It can't go passed that can it?

Naturally, I would think that's all I could lose. But I have noticed some "unlimited loss" verbage. So please explain if you can.

J Griggs

P.S. - Again, don't scold me for being a newbie and getting in on this. I have the money to blow and it looks like a nice opportunity... as long as my potential loss is controlled.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
no j. griggs you cannot lose more than you invested if you BUY this stock (go long)
however melon the genius was suggesting that he would SHORT it (sell some he ain't got) on the anticipation that it will go back down and he can "replace" the shares he sold SHORT....

this is how he could POSSIBLY have unlimited losses

if he shorted 5 million shares today at .0022 and it goes to a penny, he would OWE the brokerage 5m million shares, and he would have to pay a penny/share meaing he LOST .0078X5million or 39thousand$ and he only stood to make 10,500$ if it went ALL THE WAY DOWN instead so he could replace them at .0001.......it just doesn't make much sense to short sell in the micro's UNLESS you are an insider or an MM.......

i hope that you can afford to lose WHATEVER you put in the stock market....cuz even the big stocks have hurt a lot of people in the last few years.....
i play with 10% of my capital in these insane pennies, and i actually do pretty well...a lot of people DON'T do so well. i try very hard to find stocks that will go up at least 50% over a couple DAYS to post here.....
that way you can get 25% somewhere along the line...good luck.....i'm not always right

i think this one will go to a nickel, but i can't promise anything

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by j griggs on :
 
thanks for your quick reply Glass.

...Well i've got my seatbelt on...

If this thing does go to a nickel, I've got some pretty good change coming my way...

If not, like you said, it's not something to take really serious --- and to put your life savings on.

I'll hang around and watch.

J Griggs
 


Posted by Blue#1 on :
 
Where do you research stocks on OTC exchanges?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
if you really want to make it in the pennies (IMO) you need to use these guys...
http://www.microcaptrade.com/index.html

allstocks has a section dedicated to it...

titled Microcaptrade...

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by Blue#1 on :
 
Thanks!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
no problem, the more good DD we get on the board, the more we all make, believe it or not some of these guys aren't very honest
 
Posted by Buckey on :
 
Then play it dude - Its a good flip if you can nail it
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
well melon, i don't think you do get it....
nobody around here thinks it is an investment it's a pink sheet; completely different animal....

we are looking for hot stocks here, not boredom....


[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 26, 2004).]



 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
Glass, a heads up. Do the DD on PRMN. Who is the CEO?

Ever hear of the Dominion Of Melchizedek?
http://www.melchizedek.com/press/war-france.htm

bizarre connection? LOL...


quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
no problem, the more good DD we get on the board, the more we all make, believe it or not some of these guys aren't very honest


 


Posted by Buckey on :
 
The CEO of PRMN is pearlasia who is or was aelected the president of the DOM. The DOM is well documented at the SEC and at many federal Government levels as an outright scam up there with the Nigerian email scams. MY thoughts are this. A large group of former offshore shady loan types have moned from the HYIP investment scam with the phony treasury bills to the Pinkies. MLON, RRBK ERDTF and es[

quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
Glass, a heads up. Do the DD on PRMN. Who is the CEO?

Ever hear of the Dominion Of Melchizedek?
http://www.melchizedek.com/press/war-france.htm

bizarre connection? LOL...




 


Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
Glass, a heads up. Do the DD on PRMN. Who is the CEO?

Ever hear of the Dominion Of Melchizedek?
http://www.melchizedek.com/press/war-france.htm

bizarre connection? LOL...



heard about it from MELON the poster...too funny...

when i grow up, i wanna be just like these guys and start my own country....might need a few billion$ to get it going tho....
 


Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
heard about it from MELON the poster...too funny...

when i grow up, i wanna be just like these guys and start my own country....might need a few billion$ to get it going tho....


You won't need much money, just go to some tropical island, set up shop. then declare war on the US. They will come and invade and then give you Billions to rebuild. We need some humor on this board, lots og uptight people

------------------
"If We Agree To Disagree, Then We Can Remain friends"
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i try to enjoy life DOC...
yes, we need money to live, but some of these people are so miserable
they just can't hold it all in, they have to share it with all of us

DOM's mistake was to declare war on France instead the of US

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited December 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by $Keith$ on :
 
LOL...thats the best thing I have heard today...great money making idea...the US loves to waste money in useless wars! Why spend so much money on bombs to blow up buildings when you know you are just gonna pay to rebuild it,skip the war, just send them a big fat check and be down with it, it will save alot of US and local civilian casualties
 
Posted by Buckey on :
 
THe DOM is funny alright but the sad thing is that they have a BAR for lawyers to join and use and banks etc that they issue treasury notes from. All a complete scam. And funnier is that the people used those notes and used intricte financing schemes for people who wanted a higher yield or to avoid tax and couldnt get money onshore USA. They charged upfront fees for these financing services and often got duped. But because they were often trying to avoid taxes they would keep their mouth shsut - aka the drug deal gone bad - cant go to the cops. anyway guess hwo was heavily involved in this before that person decided to go the pinky route - seems he has good company -

Humour youse;ves and look up the old CEO of HCCF - Winick - The internet will eventually let you connect all the dots and make solid lines out of it. I have recieved a warning so I am being somewhat elusive. BUt if you want you will find a story here that is amazing and trust me it is mostly fiction
 




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