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Ya got me there, GREGDOGG! Ha, the funny --well, sad, really -- thing is, I've seen other people goof like that for real!

TSBB fields forever!!!


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That's still $10K, a ton to put into any micro imho.

GLTY though, I'm long as well.


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Agreed, tntrader, but they are, as I said, all free shares at this point... I'm really confident in this company's team -- they seem genuinely determined so avenge themselves from the last few months; a rock-solid growth company, this seems...

GL!


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TSBB flying high!
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Heavy accumulation today in the low .0070s after it once again showed what its capable of... A lot of eyes are on this one, people, and most of them, thank God, are probably much more interested in making BANK than flipping for .001/.002... Again, if you're looking for something special and highly undervalued, where NO insiders are or will sell (see PRs for yourselves on this), a buy anywhere in this range is it! A PPS upwards of .03 by early July seems hardly out of reach...

GLTA!!

Note: Playing the dips on this one may well leave you out in the cold -- so much more is at stake here!


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P.S.
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=tsbb&sid=0&o_symb=tsbb&freq=1&time=8

'nuff said!


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quote:
Originally posted by Egbert:
P.S.
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=tsbb&sid=0 &o_symb=tsbb&freq=1&time=8

'nuff said!



eg, I'm missing what your seeing let me in on it, I did buy in on a dip today, let me know what your thinking, not my style of chart...


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I'm noting the turnaround (since the end of naked shorting/strong financials) and lack of any meaningful risistance to .02

Later,

Big E


<<eg, I'm missing what your seeing let me in on it, I did buy in on a dip today, let me know what your thinking, not my style of chart...>>


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gotcha, thats one of reasons got in that and smoking volume!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! always a good sign, one should go down tomorrow.
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Hey, agreed! We just need to snap this strong resistance at .01 (finally!), then there's not much else between that and the next leg up at .02 (still some resistance here too, but not as much as at .01, thanx to it being shorted so hard below the latter). Then, after .02, there's even less of a wall at .03, if any -- snapping .04, however, may take a while; may take profits here (.035-.04) and wait for a re-base around .025-.03 before getting back in. I expect all of the above to take place sometime before late July, IMHO, of course...

Take care and good luck!


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IMHO .01 will break fairly easily, it was broken that last run, what we see now is during the rise to .01 people who were caught holding the bag are selling to break even, maybe play again.....

That seemed to happen yesterday IMO and if we have that volume again, .01's going down!


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quote:
Originally posted by keithsan:
IMHO .01 will break fairly easily, it was broken that last run, what we see now is during the rise to .01 people who were caught holding the bag are selling to break even, maybe play again.....

That seemed to happen yesterday IMO and if we have that volume again, .01's going down!



Hope U R right!


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Anyone want to become an MM? Just watch how they play/block this one, and learn... Perhaps some day the SEC will finally put an end to this arbitrary B.S. on their part.

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Just remember people, ".01" is the STRONGEST resistance point (which really was created by last month's naked shorting) we have between here and .05... Now, will you have to "wait" for this to get snapped? Yes, you will! That's just part of the game, and with this one (along with the rest of the micros) in the hands of the MMs, I stress "game". If you can't wait more than 2/3 weeks, then this is NOT the stock for you, and you'd be well advised to move on... But if you can appreciate a 7/8 bagger from here, then perhaps this IS the stock for you. I know it is for me. Of course, I can also appreciate the frustration of those in at or above .007/.008, when my average is at .006... But this is merely a psychological, not a LOGICAL frustration. Those in at or above these levels are, for all intents and purposes, just as well off as those in at .005-.006 -- when you're talking about the potential here, a few 10th of a penny is hardly worthy of concern... Keep your eyes on the prize, folks, and keep your shares in your hands!
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http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=tsbb&sid=0&o_symb=tsbb&freq=1&time=4
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=tsbb&sid=0&o_symb=tsbb&freq=7&time=18


Can you say "Whoa, Nelly" / "MM walkdown"...? -- he-he-he!!


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Read the last six words of the first sentence of the below, TSBB's latest PR. Once again, it's pretty obvious that these guys are concerned to keep the outstanding shares of 250 Million, well, outstanding! And the fact that they refuse to sell their shares (uh, can you say "a good sign of things to come", Egbert?) sure don't hurt either! It's really a shame so many who trade the micros fail to see the forest for the manipulative trees... This July, people, this July...


<<The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We're very excited about our first debenture placement as a BDC that does not affect the common stock. The Company is currently working on structuring similar instruments. The debt is serviced through revenue from the targeted acquisitions. The response the Company has received from investors is very positive. Recently, there has been many positive articles in the financial press regarding BDC's and their ability to raise capital in the markets. We believe this first placement will bring other investors to the Company.">>


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Hey, it seems TSBB released again the excellent results of their last 10Q, but this time in a slightly different structure (perhaps so as to make more clear the import of the report, which seems to have been lost on many a potential investor). Also, I could only find it at "Edgar". Anyone else here see it elsewhere...? Perhaps they should utilize more media streams so that more people could take a look and buy! It'd be a shame if, with all the "junk companies" out there getting exposure, TSBB was actually getting less! Oh well, I'm sure glad "I" was able to find this one... This summer should be a good one for us TSBBers.
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Ohio Gozaimasu, gaigins!

Yes, Seymore-kun, I agree, TSBB (and other OTC-BBs) really should have more media outlets than they currently do (my E-trade account shows NOTHING AT ALL for TSBB!) I don't understand this...? I've e-mailed them on this (and other) things before. Below is their contact Info/website. Perhaps more should make known this concern (though do NOT flame them!)


I.R. Dept.:
Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC.
(918) 392-0336
Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com


Website (to be updated soon): www.****************


CEO E-mail
jjenkins@****************


Oyasumi,
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Ooops!


jjenkins @ tsbfinancial . com

ht tp : // www . tsbfinancial . com / overview . html

(remove spaces)


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quote:
Originally posted by Yumiko Nishimura:
Ooops!


jjenkins @ tsbfinancial . com

ht tp : // www . tsbfinancial . com / overview . html

(remove spaces)


Thanks for the contact Info, Yumiko (I actually couldn't find it myself - DUH!). So, did they get back to you at all? They do seem to be genuinely concerned with/about their investors...

P.S. What is "-kun" mean???


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Sorry, thought I posted this already, above, but didn't:

Net Income Applicable To Common Shares... is up $674,00.00 over last quarter (which showed a loss)!

ht**tp://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=tsbb.ob

(delete asteriks in URL)

Again, I suspect they re-released this over the weekend (in its newly structured, simplified form) so more people can finally get a grip on what's been/will be going on with TSBB (though they still need to expand their PR streams!) Let's hope Monday shows us some justice at last!


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Found some fairly decent DD on TSBB from a poster at, of all places, Ragingbull...

"The net was a result of their investments increasing in value. They own all or part of the following companies. At the end of each quarter - based on the financial results of the subsidiaries, they calculate the net increase or net decrease of the company's holdings as a whole. Basically, if their subsidaries do well, the holding company does well:

For Q Ending March 31, 2004

Investments at fair value = $1,470,100

The increase in investments at cost is due to the $504,130 of new investments made with a combination of stock and cash in the first quarter of 2004 by the Company.

The increase in unrealized appreciation is primarily attributable to due to the increased in value placed on the Company’s portfolio investments.

During the first quarter of 2004, the Company valued its equity and investment holdings in accordance with the established valuation policies (see “Valuation of Investments and Equity Holdings) above.

The Company’s total investments at fair value, whose values have been estimated by the Board of Directors, approximated 76.5% of net assets at March 31, 2004.

The cash and cash equivalents approximated 6.8% of net assets as of March 31, 2004.

The effect of the change in unrealized appreciation on investments resulted in a net increase in net deferred tax liability from $ — 0 — at March 31, 2003 to a net deferred tax liability of $390,000 at March 31, 2004.

1. Buehler Earth and Waterworks, LLC.

Buehler Earth and Waterworks specializes in site development and infrastructure construction including, but not limited to, clearing, earthwork, utility construction, storm drainage, curbs, sidewalks; roadwork including sub-base, base and asphalt placement.

Buehler Earth and Waterworks mission is to provide a full line of site construction and related services to the land/site development industry (public/private) utilizing a team approach to deliver the highest in quality work seeking expeditious performance without compromising either cost efficiency or good safety practices.

Buehler Earth and Waterworks, LLC is a Florida Limited Corporation which the Company has a 51% interest.

2. Sports Nation, Inc.

Sports Nation is involved in all aspects of the sports memorabilia merchandising industry. Sports Nation’s management has over 50 years of combined experience in product development, licensing, mass merchandise, retail, and direct marketing & sales. Through years of specializing in sourcing and selling the finest caliber sports memorabilia and collectible products, Sports Nation has forged numerous strategic relationships with companies and individuals in sports marketing, including agents and athletes, manufacturers, authenticators, and retailers.

Sports Nation, Inc. is a Nevada Corporation, which is owned 100% by the Company.

3. TSB Financial Services, Inc.

TSB Financial also obtains financing for various commercial real estate transactions thought strategic relationships with outside funding sources. TSB Financial Services, Inc. serves customers nationally from its headquarters in Orlando, Florida, with offices in Freeport, Illinois.

TSB Financial Services, Inc. is a Florida Corporation, which is owned 100% by the Company.

4. Wellstone Acquisition Corporation

Wellstone Acquisition Corporation is a non-reporting corporate shell. This Company had no business activity for the nine month ending March 31, 2004.

Wellstone Acquisition Corporation is a Delaware corporation that is owned 66% by the Company.

5. TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corporation

TS&B Gaming and Entertainment Corporation was formed on March 18, 2004 to invest in gaming, entertainment and other such ventures. TS&B Gaming and Entertainment had no business activity through March 31, 2004.

TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corporation is a Florida corporation that is 100% owned by the Company.

Other Investments

The Company has investments in two other companies as of March 31, 2004.

1. Gulf Coast Records, LLC

Gulf Coast Records, LLC is an independent record label. Currently, Gulf Coast is developing recording artist Glenn Cummings. Gulf Coast Records has met with music industry executives and has assembled a team in preparation for Glenn Cummings new untitled album release.

The Gulf Coast Records team includes, H.L. Voelker and Miles Bell who act as production consultants on Glenn’s album, and Lisa Berg of Berg & Associates directs Glenn's press and publicity.

Gulf Coast Records, LLC is a Florida Limited Partnership which the Company has a 49% limited partnership interest.

2. KMA Capital Partners, Ltd.

KMA Capital Partners, Ltd. provides business consulting and financial services to the Company and to small and mid-cap companies.

KMA Capital Partners, Ltd. is a Florida Limited Partnership which the Company has a 25% interest.


Hope this helps - there is a complete breakdown of starting value of each company, and the increase in value during the Q and some explanations in the 10Q."

The breakdown is thorough. But what's of particular interest is all the "unrealized" potential from those above sectors of TSBB that have thus far not yet, for still being in the nascent stages of their developement, shown through... I suspect that, in the coming quarters, we will see, as with the last, a sequential, if not exponential, increase in revenue attributable to precisely these new (and future aquired) sectors... Bid/Ask manipulation can only go on so long, people, before TSBB busts a gut and the MMs are necessarily forced to let this fly.


quote:
Originally posted by Seymore:
Sorry, thought I posted this already, above, but didn't:

Net Income Applicable To Common Shares... is up $674,00.00 over last quarter (which showed a loss)!

ht**tp://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=tsbb.ob

(delete asteriks in URL)

Again, I suspect they re-released this over the weekend (in its newly structured, simplified form) so more people can finally get a grip on what's been/will be going on with TSBB (though they still need to expand their PR streams!) Let's hope Monday shows us some justice at last!



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GREAT BUY TIME!!!

AT THESE LEVELS IT SHOULD BE AN EASY 3 BAGGER. LETS PULL FOR A POP BECAUSE I KNOW ITS COMING WITH ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS GOING ON WITH THIS COMPANY.


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quote:
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GREAT BUY TIME!!!

AT THESE LEVELS IT SHOULD BE AN EASY 3 BAGGER. LETS PULL FOR A POP BECAUSE I KNOW ITS COMING WITH ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS GOING ON WITH THIS COMPANY.


WHEN do you think this will be a 3 bagger. I have been hanging on so long at .006 or thereabouts.


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Another bargain-basement day for TSBB due to broad market concerns over IR hikes (which are in turn due to a strong economy and which are needed to control inflation) -- people IR are going up, get used to it already!!!

All we need is a sliver of good news (and should be plenty of this coming down the pike), and this thing will make a lot of today's short-sighted sellers very sorry... boo-hoo...


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Found this next door, on MM games:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/007557.html

Yet another reason to be long here... Though, one must wonder how long these egregious activities can go on.


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Ach! Would someone PLEASE post something NEGATIVE about this stock (besides its float's apparently low I.Q. levels)! Seriously, at least then these absurdly low PPSs would be at least a "tiny" bit justified, and I could sleep a little easier. -- Bad fundamentals, R/S, dilution etc. (MM games are simply here to stay till the SEC gets off their ass about it) I can understand and make clear descisions about. But in the absence of ANY of this, what are we to conclude...? One thing's for sure, anyone who bought in below .008 and are actually selling for a "loss" at these levels needs their head examined!
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Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. announces Country Artist Glenn Cummings To Release His New Single, 'Big'

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"Big" will hit radio on June 15 and Glenn's album, Big, will be on store shelves early Fall 2004. For more on Glenn Cummings, visit www.gccountry.com.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "we're very excited about the response we have received from Nashville song promoters regarding Glenn's new album and single debut..."


THAT'S TODAY, PEOPLE!! IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE A PR/REACTION TO SAME ON THIS. ALL I CAN SAY NOW IS... WHOEVER IS SMART ENOUGH TO BUY IN THE .005s HERE, WILL BE ONE HAPPY CAMPER OVER THE NEXT 1-2 MONTHS (THOUGH I CAN CERTAINLY SETTLE WITH MY .006 AVERAGE)

GLTA!


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OK, so we closed back at 0.006, so I guess there's still "some" sanity left in the market, if only miniscule. My God, does nobody wish to own a "good" microcap these days...? Again, assuming this sanity holds, I say we see at least .03 by late July. This holding company has many more tricks up its sleeve than Glenn Cummings alone!
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Review of Glenn Cummings new album, as produced by Gulf Coast Records, a subsidiary of TS&B Holdings (TSBB):
http://www.angrycountry.com/stories/0171.html

If Glenn blows up as expected, these ludicrous levels (of price & volume) will be even more laughable than they seem today...


List of recent PRs (again, nothing but good news of late):
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/h?s=TSBB.OB


Kinda makes ya wonder WTF...


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Maybe Jeff, out to contact them to be the PR guy he seems to be doing a good job at it over here!!! But I will write this one down and check it out.


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Yeah, they need someone like me behind the helm! If they had, we'd be on our way to that ".03-.05 range" their CEO says we should be trading at! LOL!!!


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Maybe Jeff, out to contact them to be the PR guy he seems to be doing a good job at it over here!!! But I will write this one down and check it out.



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But seriously, folks... I think the DD has been done on this one (except, perhaps, by you...?), and I've yet to come accross ANYTHING negative (sorry Jacobi!) by any poster anywhere (though there was a breif, albeit rather ill-planned, attempt to bash TSBB on the RB Board, but that quickly fizzled out). However, the sad fact is that, as with just about all sub-pennies, this is NOT in ANY buyer's control but, rather, in that of the MMs. This is precisely why being long on any OTC-BB stock is simply maddening to them, as they cannot "control" a long position -- they HATE longs as much as longs HATE them! For they make their money off volume and volitilty.

What may also seem sad, is that stocks like this just don't simply "trend" up or down like most blue chips do -- for the most part, they simply "spike", form a new and higher base off the inevitable retrace, then spike back up again, and so on, like the old "Mother, May I" game, where you take 2 steps forward and one step back... Thus, the only way to win this "game" (and that's precisely what it is), is to simply be either long (assuming it's a great company, and until/if anything unsavory comes to be), or to play these momentum moves. Though, if it really IS a great company, then by doing the latter, you run the risk of missing out long-term on potentially stellar returns. I still have not got (and probably never will get) this in-and-out strategy down, as it's more of a chaotic art than a science. But one thing I know for sure is that, no matter how far a stock is walked down on me, if it's as solid as a TSBB (and but a handful of others), I will eventually be vindicated.

GL, all. The absurdity of 5 straight days in the red will soon enough be met with some degree of sanity (or a PR -- whichever comes first!)


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Relax, people... This is merely a last-ditch attempt by MMs to SQUEEZE out the disheartened who bought in above this here bottom last month -- i.e., those who can't see 2 feet in front of their own face. The impatient are growing more so with the knowledge of so much going on with TSBB right now and yet no "PR" since 6/7 (though if they sell at a loss at this point in time, they deserve their pain). Those who are controling this stock know this, they know what's to come, and they have all the time in the world (or till the next PR -- he-he-he!) My only regret is not having any funds now to buy at these welfare prices! But I suspect my average of .006-ish will be considered this in another month or so, if not sooner...
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quote:
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Relax, people... This is merely a last-ditch attempt by MMs to SQUEEZE out the disheartened who bought in above this here bottom last month -- i.e., those who can't see 2 feet in front of their own face. The impatient are growing more so with the knowledge of so much going on with TSBB right now and yet no "PR" since 6/7 (though if they sell at a loss at this point in time, they deserve their pain). Those who are controling this stock know this, they know what's to come, and they have all the time in the world (or till the next PR -- he-he-he!) My only regret is not having any funds now to buy at these welfare prices! But I suspect my average of .006-ish will be considered this in another month or so, if not sooner...

There is also a thread under the "Stocks under .10). Several people there are emailing the big wigs - email info provided.


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