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Your a sheep glass you are a nonconformist at best. the only trouble with that, you are conforming with a bunch of other nonconformist nation wide that call yourselves rugged individualist so you are conforming to something like a bunch of screwballs that are getting more and more paranoid you are talking yourselves into a heap of trouble. I do suggest one thing to you no matter how guns rights turn out is that you do what I will do obey the law.
Ps excuse me don't inhale on the stainless steel tube to much.
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Not positive here but I believe that is exactly the point Glass was trying to convey...and if so, he is spot on.
It appears to me that Pagan has some deep seated anger issues towards anyone that thinks differently than he/she does...
I am fairly certain that some long term counseling would help him/her with those issues...
Ray on the other hand, is beyond repair...you just cant fix stupid...
quote:Originally posted by rounder1: I believe the point is that even though at the time many considered them the lunatic fringe they are now regarded as founders and heros of the republic.
History is written by the winners. To be a winner you have to believe in something and stand for it either through force or perhaps just through debate or what have you.
More to the point. I think what he may be saying is that if it were not for people willing to challenge authority when it becomes overbearing then you would still be a subject of the crown...
But I could be wrong....he may not have meant that at all.....
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i'm positive you are correct buck, the basic menatliy being displayed here is agree with me or i'll hold my breath and call you childish names...
it's funny cuz as long as i was critisizing bush? these two tripped over themsleves to agree with me but now that i am simply (again) stating my displeasure with the powers that be? i'm a stupid crakhed or somethign along those line.
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quote:Originally posted by raybond: Your a sheep glass you are a nonconformist at best. the only trouble with that, you are conforming with a bunch of other nonconformist nation wide that call yourselves rugged individualist so you are conforming to something like a bunch of screwballs that are getting more and more paranoid you are talking yourselves into a heap of trouble. I do suggest one thing to you no matter how guns rights turn out is that you do what I will do obey the law.
Ps excuse me don't inhale on the stainless steel tube to much.
Bond, very few people have the intestianl fortitude to take a 48 inch peice of steel in their hands and stick it into a couple hundred pound crucible full of 2200 degree molten glass, (it's a little warm that close) i not only do that but i then proceed to perform acts of creation with hit, i have nothing to prove to you or explain to you about myself. i do it because i choose to.
as to talking myself into a heap of trouble? it sure sounds like you want to give me some... sad really...
just remaber this i'm not a gun nut, i was a gunner in the USN that's wher e i learned this "gun chit" and i took an oath then to defend the Constitution, not the president, not the Senators, not the Congressmen not you, the Constitution. you would do well to remember that.
the Constituion says i can talk too, i can express my displeasure about laws and the politicians. i have made no threats to anyone and i don't call people names.
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quote:Originally posted by Pagan: Do you actually have a point? That was a foreign power exerting control over colonies. It was pre-US Constitution. Are you really trying to equate that to background checks and gun control of today? If so, you're even way more far gone than I had thought. And here I thought Cowchit was a troll. He ain't got nothing on you! Obviously the fleas don't fall far from the dog with you and Cowchit!
Pagan, you uh, are suposed to contemplate the notion... that is all.. read it agin... it s simply a mental exersize to open your mind, nothing more.
it was NOT a foreign power, the taxes being raised wer to pay for defending the colonists in the French and Indian wars, which was VERY expensive, and where George Washingotn got his military training as an officer fighting with the British...... but hten you knew that right cuz everybody knows that form history class right? LOL
BTW? Hancokc already had a bounty his head BEFORE that fro smuggling... he would have hanged if they caught him, but he hid amongst the Revolutionaries- this was not a matter of "perspective" or a "foreegn power. The colonies did enjoy some benefits being British Colonies, and many Colonists did not want to revolt... Just like many Americans did not want to attack Germnany even after the Japaness hit pearl... the Emperor screwd up big time by dong that... Germany prolly would have been able to keep most of wetern europe if the Japanese hadn't drawn US in...
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quote:Originally posted by rounder1: I believe the point is that even though at the time many considered them the lunatic fringe they are now regarded as founders and heros of the republic.
History is written by the winners. To be a winner you have to believe in something and stand for it either through force or perhaps just through debate or what have you.
More to the point. I think what he may be saying is that if it were not for people willing to challenge authority when it becomes overbearing then you would still be a subject of the crown...
But I could be wrong....he may not have meant that at all.....
that's a large part of it, but what really gets me riled is when people refuse to question the people they have voted for themselves. i get it when you don't vote for soembody, but just be cause you voted for soembody? they don't get a blank check. That is why they set up regular elections, and checks and balances. the two parties arenot even that differnt. they pick a couple of things to publicly squable over but they are sharing and dividing up the spoils behind closed doors..
how many bankers has Obama prosecuted? any?
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As for causing you a heap of trouble glass look to some one else not me I would say yourself. As for me I would be crazy to start a war you could get me in much more trouble than I you. And no one is taking you right to free speech. remember that is what you do in trying to restrict posts
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quote:Originally posted by raybond: As for causing you a heap of trouble glass look to some one else not me I would say yourself. As for me I would be crazy to start a war you could get me in much more trouble than I you. And no one is taking you right to free speech. remember that is what you do in trying to restrict posts
"restrict posts"? bond, you are letting your imagination run awy with you now. i haven't touched any of the modrator buttons in YEARS. and then it was to delete porno. th eidea bieng that if you are in your living romm and on allstocks, you would not have to hide it form your kids or your spouse for crissakes...
i prolly just won't be repsondng to you ferahwile basically because you seem to be unable to unerstn what i say to ya.. better for everybody, and it's out of respect not bittenress or anger...
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