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glassman
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how much tax moany have we and are we continuing to spend to find his body? Is this really a wrthwhile expenditure? It's not like we can resurrect him if we do.

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just to make sure we know what we are looking for?

Hoffa would be 100 this year if were still alive, his characte was questionable; from wikipedia.. (i know papgan, but i just want to get the story as close to correct as i can)

Hoffa became involved with organized crime from the early years of his Teamsters work, and this connection continued until his disappearance in 1975. He was convicted of jury tampering, attempted bribery, and fraud in 1964. Hoffa was imprisoned in 1967, and sentenced to 13 years, after exhausting the appeal process. In mid-1971 he resigned the Teamsters' presidency, an action that was part of a pardon agreement with President Richard Nixon, to facilitate his release later that year. Nixon blocked Hoffa from union activities until 1980 (which would have been the end of his prison term, had he served the full sentence). Hoffa attempted to overturn this order and to regain support.

Hoffa was last seen in late July 1975, outside the Machus Red Fox, a suburban Detroit restaurant.[3] His disappearance gave rise to many theories as to what happened to him and where his body was hidden. No body has yet been found.


take this desire to find his bones and the blank check that seems to go along with it and imagine 10,000 more "projects" that are a toal waste and start seeing why the budget is broken...

people want to cut stuff that is actually valuble to teh community in order to fund this type of stuff... i'm sorry, he's human being too, but in the end? what differnce will it make if we get DNA sample showing his bones were found?

the ONLY reason this is being chased is because someFBI agent will get a good performance review and a maybe an advnce in Grade.... maybe evne a directorship, but i see no value tot eh greater good form this.. he is dead now, whther he was killed or not is really of no consequence... he may have made it to Argentina and died happily there with a dozen new children too...

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So....you are saying finding his body...and maybe linking it to the perps is a waste of money? Would you really feel that way if it was a family member of yours they were trying to find? You need to loosen the bungie cords on your tin-foil hat me thinks. It must be cutting off the trickle of blood that flows to your brain.

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waste of money

I know exactly where he is.....He went to chit and the hogs ate him.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pagan:
So....you are saying finding his body...and maybe linking it to the perps is a waste of money? Would you really feel that way if it was a family member of yours they were trying to find? You need to loosen the bungie cords on your tin-foil hat me thinks. It must be cutting off the trickle of blood that flows to your brain.

i recognise he's a human being an he deserves dignity.However, if you take every missing person in th eUSA and spend the same money and effort on them? we;ll be boke(r than we already are).

reports of missing persons have increased sixfold in the past 25 years, from roughly 150,000 in 1980 to about 900,000 this year. The increase was driven in part by the country's growing population. But the numbers also indicate that law enforcement treats the cases more seriously now, including those of marginalized citizens.

An astounding 2,300 Americans are reported missing every day, including both adults and children.

But only a tiny fraction of those are stereotypical abductions or kidnappings by a stranger.

For example, the federal government counted 840,279 missing persons cases in 2001. All but about 50,000 were juveniles, classified as anyone younger than 18.

The National Center for Missing Adults, based in Phoenix, consistently tracks about 48,000 "active cases," says president Kym Pasqualini, although that number has been bumped up by nearly 11,000 reports of persons missing after this year's hurricanes.

In a phone interview, Pasqualini said a breakdown of the 48,000 cases reveals the democratic nature of America's missing persons.

Slightly more than half—about 25,500—of the missing are men. About four out of 10 missing adults are white, three of 10 black and two of 10 Latino.

Among missing adults, about one-sixth have psychiatric problems. Young men, people with drug or alcohol addictions and elderly citizens suffering from dementia make up other significant subgroups of missing adults.

About half of the roughly 800,000 missing juvenile cases in 2001 involved runaways, and another 200,000 were classified as family abductions related to domestic or custody disputes.

Only about 100 missing-child reports each year fit the profile of a stereotypical abduction by a stranger or vague acquaintance.

Two-thirds of those victims are ages 12 to 17, and among those eight out of 10 are white females, according to a Justice Department study. Nearly 90 percent of the abductors are men, and they sexually assault their victims in half of the cases.

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To further complicate categorization of cases, the FBI designates some missing-person incidents—both adult and juvenile—that seem most dire as "endangered" or "involuntary."

For example, the agency deemed Taylor Behl, the 17-year-old college student missing in Richmond, Va., to be endangered. More than 100,000 missing persons, the vast majority of them children, are designated as endangered each year. About 30,000 are deemed involuntary.


thos numbers surprising to you? i exected "only" 100,000 per year...

Hoffa in specific? it is quite likely that no arrests will come from recovering his body if we do, and even less like that we would get convictions cuz the case is so old now. He played in pretty rough game and i stand bythe right to unionise for everyone because i beleive it falls under th eright to peaceavbly assemble. I choose not become union member but i acknowledge that th eConstitution does grant the right even tho the SCOTUS disagrees me. that just makes it clear they are not qualifed to read and comprehnd the constitution IMO [Big Grin] are they smart sure, but are they Wise? moslty not....

i did agree with em last week on not allowing patents on "natural human genes".... how can they patent my body? it's mine dammit and they can't own it

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