quote:Originally posted by glassman: i wonder how long before we have a fist fight in congress? they have 'em in other countries.
this is not IMO about people calling each other names.
this is about whether we are civilised or not.
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May 22, 1856 The Caning of Senator Charles Sumner
On May 22, 1856, the "world's greatest deliberative body" became a combat zone. In one of the most dramatic and deeply ominous moments in the Senate's entire history, a member of the House of Representatives entered the Senate chamber and savagely beat a senator into unconsciousness.
The inspiration for this clash came three days earlier when Senator Charles Sumner, a Massachusetts antislavery Republican, addressed the Senate on the explosive issue of whether Kansas should be admitted to the Union as a slave state or a free state. In his "Crime Against Kansas" speech, Sumner identified two Democratic senators as the principal culprits in this crime—Stephen Douglas of Illinois and Andrew Butler of South Carolina. He characterized Douglas to his face as a "noise-some, squat, and nameless animal . . . not a proper model for an American senator." Andrew Butler, who was not present, received more elaborate treatment. Mocking the South Carolina senator's stance as a man of chivalry, the Massachusetts senator charged him with taking "a mistress . . . who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight—I mean," added Sumner, "the harlot, Slavery."
Representative Preston Brooks was Butler's South Carolina kinsman. If he had believed Sumner to be a gentleman, he might have challenged him to a duel. Instead, he chose a light cane of the type used to discipline unruly dogs. Shortly after the Senate had adjourned for the day, Brooks entered the old chamber, where he found Sumner busily attaching his postal frank to copies of his "Crime Against Kansas" speech.
Moving quickly, Brooks slammed his metal-topped cane onto the unsuspecting Sumner's head. As Brooks struck again and again, Sumner rose and lurched blindly about the chamber, futilely attempting to protect himself. After a very long minute, it ended.
Bleeding profusely, Sumner was carried away. Brooks walked calmly out of the chamber without being detained by the stunned onlookers. Overnight, both men became heroes in their respective regions.
Surviving a House censure resolution, Brooks resigned, was immediately reelected, and soon thereafter died at age 37. Sumner recovered slowly and returned to the Senate, where he remained for another 18 years. The nation, suffering from the breakdown of reasoned discourse that this event symbolized, tumbled onward toward the catastrophe of civil war.
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i was going to post this into the BCIT thread, but it's actually got some "irreverent" relevance here.
Tom Megas is the CEO of a company (BCIT) that has been "halted" or "globally locked" by the DTC for several years and after at least a dozen of us have written letters requesting a Congressioanl Investigation? we got one.
Kle Burns (of Grassley's offfice, Senate Finance Committee) recently informed us shareholders that he could not resolve the "problem" until the filings were brought up to date.
this is the CEO that sued all of us/his shareholders...
well, they were up to date two years ago and nothing happened.... when T Megas, the CEO, heard that he needed to bring the filings up to date? this letter was supposedly generated.
keep in mind that i am not a direct recipient of this letter and so i cannot verufy it:
From: Tom Megas Date: September 10, 2009 10:34:14 PM GMT+02:00 To: "Burns, Kyle (Finance-Rep)" Subject: Re: BCIT Issue
Dear Mr Burns,
As stated in my telephone conversation with you the question of filing is a red herring. I had been fully compliant in the past and been refused clearing facilities by the dtc. The DTC wants me to cover them for all the bad shares they allowed to be circulated in the market because of their negligence. DTC also do not want their brokers to pay for all the shares they have sold to investors. I have refused to cover them and that is why there is a global lock. There are many other non filed public companies that are currently being cleared by the DTC. Filing has nothing to do with the DTC`s ability to clear shares. You are obviously ignorant of what actually happens in the market place. Even if I filed the DTC would still not release the `global lock`. You seem to be totally unaware that you are dealing with a criminal organization on the one hand (DTC) and completely ignorant as to the fact that the SEC has no power over the DTC in this matter as a result of Section 19c of the 1934 Securities Exchange Act. The crux of the problem is not my filing, but the ability of the dtc racketeers and their broker clients to steal the money of ordinary investors and not provide them with what they paid for. because no one has the power to direct them to do so. Why can the DTC not do for my investors what they do everyday of hundreds of other non filing companies. They clear their shares. I am only prepared to file if I have a guarantee that the DTC is prepared to clear notwithstanding any problems they have created for themselves. I do not intend to wank either myself or my shareholders with the hope that something will `turn up` or certainly not rely on an impotent Senate Banking Committee that hangs on every word of a `toothless sec`and a racketeering dtc. One of the worst consequences of the present `siuation`is that the law as it stands allows an unregulated private monopoly to alter at its whim the capital strucure of a public company without the consent of the board of directors and its shareholders, by creating shares at will and failing to deliver them. The sanctity of a company`s capital structure does not exist in the USA. That alone warrants a Senate Hearing. I suggest you grow up, put long trousers on, and lend any intellectual equipment nature may have endowed you with to understanding what you are actually confronted with. I remain outraged.
Yours direspectfully
Thomas Megas
As stated in an email much earlier to you, there is nothing you can do about this because you do not understand it
On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Burns, Kyle (Finance-Rep) wrote:
Mr. Megas,
The Senate Finance Committee has been advised by both the SEC and the DTCC that your company is non-compliant and is currently delinquent in its public filings. As a result there is no current information available to prospective buyers of BCIT stock as to the company’s assets or operations.
Any assistance that the Committee could provide regarding the removal of the “Global Lock” on BCIT is rendered moot when the company is not up to date with their filings.
Any information that you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Kyle D. Burns United States Senate Committee on Finance 219 Dirksen Senate Building Washington, D.C. 20510 ofc: 202.224.1374 fax: 202.228.2131 Kyle_Burns*Finance-Rep.Senate.gov
From: Tom Megas [mailto:tpm8*harolds.ch] Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:44 PM To: Burns, Kyle (Finance-Rep) Cc: thomas megas Thomas Pericles Megas Subject: Re: BCIT Issue
apologise for the delay in replying to your email, but am travelling at the moment, am currently in Caracas, will be going tomorrow to Singapore and then on to Australia and Papua New Guinea. I will try to call you on your office number from my mobile which is ########, between flights, I will be at the Hilton Hotel in Cairns in Australia from the 9th August 2009 till the 15th should we miss each other.
Yours sincerely
Thomas Megas
Energy Source Inc (fka bcit).
On Jul 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Burns, Kyle (Finance-Rep) wrote:
Mr. Megas,
I believe this is the right e-mail address and if not than I apologize in advance to the recipient. I wanted to touch base with you regarding the BCIT/SEC/DTCC issue and I know that you’ve tried to call on several occasions. As you know by now, the Senate Finance Committee is looking into this issue and have spoken to the DTCC and the SEC. As in any investigation, it is a process and right now we are still in the process of receiving all pertinent information from the various government agencies involved. When that information is received we will evaluate the documentation and will conduct any material additional interviews at that time.
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Kyle D. Burns United States Senate Committee on Finance 219 Dirksen Senate Building Washington, D.C. 20510 ofc: 202.224.1374 fax: 202.228.2131 Kyle_Burns*Finance-Rep.Senate.gov
how's that for spitting in the face of power?
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quote:"There are now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage," Obama said on Wednesday. Back in August, he had said: "We've got 46-47 million people without health insurance in our country."
Why the change?
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Obama was making the point that under his plan, illegal immigrants would not get health insurance.
"The proposal that the president outlined covers American citizens," Gibbs told reporters. "His plan would not cover illegal immigrants."
quote:Originally posted by SeekingFreedom: Wilson raises more than $200,000 after outburst
(CNN) -- Less than a day after Rep. Joe Wilson formally apologized to President Obama over his "you lie" outburst, a campaign aide confirms that the South Carolina Republican has raised "more than $200,000" in the wake of the now-infamous moment.
News of that cash haul comes after Wilson directly asked in a Web video for campaign cash to fend off attacks from political opponents and said he's standing by his opposition to Democratic efforts at health care reform.
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The appeal for cash came as Wilson's Democratic opponent in next year's congressional race, Rob Miller, reported raking in $750,000 as a result of the outburst during President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress.
Miller ran against Wilson last year, losing by 8 percentage points. It was Wilson's smallest margin of victory in his five elections for Congress.
In an e-mail to supporters Thursday night, Miller said he is aiming to top over $1 million in the next 24 hours, a total that dwarfs the $67,000 he has took in during the entire first half of the year.
What a scumbag. No surprise SF likes it. He must since he posted it. Maybe Wilson can hookup with Sanford, and that scumbag Repub from Cali and all head down to South America to hook up with some more babes? Prolly be a good use for his campaign funds. Because none of the 3 will ever hold public office again. Smoke if ya got em is the motto I guess. Oh and just for SF (shrug).
I'm not sure I see... or anyone can see how your comments are in any way referencing the quote you posted. He tried to raise funds to help him fend off attacks... That makes him a scumbag that is going to Mexico to find girls? Astounding... You could have posted that he has been paid $750,000 from insurance companies, doctors and hospitals... you could of said that.. then said scum bag... could have... but you didn't Perplexing
Tell you what.. Allstocks is really running thin on the Lefty talent these days.
Your geography knowledge blows. mexico is Central America. I said plainly South America. Again, I know you already confessed to a reading deficiency, but try to keep up. I was speaking of those 3 fools and they're utter lack of morals. But you knew that. Grow up, and take off the blinders.
Btw, after reading several of your inane posts, I have come to a conclusion. You are not a righty or a lefty. You are an Anarchist. Good luck with that!
It appears your geography knowledge is a bit shaky also. Mexico is considered NORTH AMERICA.
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Rep. Steve King defends Joe Wilson’s support for the Confederate flag. Rep. Steve King (R-IA) has been circulating a letter to his House Republican colleagues, asking them to sign onto a petition in defense of Rep. Joe “You Lie!” Wilson (R-SC). Over on the Wonk Room, Andrea Nill notes that King is going so far in his defense of Wilson that he’s defending the South Carolina congressman’s vote in favor of keeping the Confederate flag waving above the state capitol. Here’s what King said this morning on Fox News:
[Wilson] is an officer and a gentleman and everyone who knows him knows that. … Being a son of the South puts you in a different position when it comes to the Confederate flag. It means something entirely different to the people who have ancestors who fought in the Civil War on the south side of the Mason-Dixon line. As a state legislator, Wilson was “one of only seven Republicans to go against their own party and vote to keep the Dixie Rebel flag flying over the South Carolina capitol.” Wilson has also been a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, described as a “source of increasingly virulent pro-Confederate, radical right propaganda.” Comments 145 SharePermalink
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quote:As I indicated in my last piece, the oft-stated logic of "government out of my life" is a fantasy existence you've never experienced, and that you'd whimper in fear over were you ever subjected to it for an instant. Make a list of the industries you're aware of: medical, chemical, automobile, steel, housing, whatever. Each and every one of them would crush you with glee without government regulations if it added to their profits by one one-millionth of a percentage point. They'd sell the juice they squeezed out of you as a refreshment drink, if they could get away with it. As corrupt and inefficient as your government is (and it clearly is), it's the only thing keeping you alive moment to moment. Reform it, by all means. Keep it honest. Throw out the bums who aren't protecting you adequately enough. But, end its involvement in your life? Scale it back? You're kidding yourself. That's a joke. Take one look back at history (please, just one look!), and see how workers, and children, and consumers are now protected where they were once injured and exploited. That's called "progress," and we're hoping to add a little more.
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The problem is...those industries that would "crush you with glee" or "sell the juice they squeezed out of you as a refreshment drink" now "OWN" the government that is supposedly protecting us...
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quote:Originally posted by buck*******: The problem is...those industries that would "crush you with glee" or "sell the juice they squeezed out of you as a refreshment drink" now "OWN" the government that is supposedly protecting us...
well, actually, they all would. Not the workers, but the execs. However, as we've seen, some have more "ownership" than others.
Which do you see as "majority owners" in the gov't?
quote:Originally posted by buck*******: The problem is...those industries that would "crush you with glee" or "sell the juice they squeezed out of you as a refreshment drink" now "OWN" the government that is supposedly protecting us...
it was not until 1938 that child labor was finally regulated in the US...
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