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He was a strange dude but still sad
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Don't tell me...He was he found in a closet hanging from his pe-nis like Dave was?
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Keith Richards and Bob Dylan will out live us all.
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My very first album was Thriller. I remember asking my dad to take me to the record store. So sad indeed.
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Liked some of his songs, but man that guy has some serious issues. Having little boys sleep in his bed with him that werent his....creep.

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Wow! Same day as Farrah Faucet. The King is dead and he went out with an Angel.

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Tough business to grow up in, so many opportunities to go in so many different directions, some not so good.

Ed McMahon died on the 23 also, seems like sometimes they go in clusters.

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Sad - but doesnt surprise me - he was self-abusive ---

Sad cause he had fame and money but not love -

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quote:
Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
Tough business to grow up in, so many opportunities to go in so many different directions, some not so good.

Ed McMahon died on the 23 also, seems like sometimes they go in clusters.

They always seem to go out in 3's... like Janis, Jim and Jimi..

I wonder if they will perform a autopsy to see if he was a alien or something like in the movie Men in Black lol

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A truly sad day for Hollywood!

Invester - if you had your Dad take you to the record store - you must be as old as me - or OLDER! (53 next Monday; IF I make it!)

Big Foot - Couldn't have said it any better myself.

Michael was SUCH a TALENT - but such a waste of life as a human - WHO did it to him? Joe Jackson? The Fame? Drugs? Many thought he was a pervert or child molester - but could his childhood have been SO abusive that it was in his blood to be SUPER-NICE to kids - and try to always BE a kid himself? I don't know - and wont judge. That's for God above - who already knows.

Too bad Ryan didn't get to marry Farrah as they wanted to do this week ;-( We all LOVED Farrah!

(Jaclyn Smith is STILL my favorite though) - it's funny - I LOVE Blondes - but always end up with a brunette!

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Looks like they are saying he took a big dose od Demerol. A painkiller.

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Sad, but I couldn't help snickering to myself everytime some reporter would say that Michael had "touched so many people".

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good dancer and song writter the world will miss his talent

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the brightest lights burn out the quickest.

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MJ's final words: "take me to the childrens hospital"

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quote:
Originally posted by CJim:
Sad, but I couldn't help snickering to myself everytime some reporter would say that Michael had "touched so many people".

LoL funny...

I also find it funny we were condemning this guy in recent times when alive and now everyone is praising him...

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well, he's dead now, that's usually how it works.

i wouldn't say i felt sorry for him, but it was sad the way he wasn't happy/satisfied with what he had, which was a hellofalot.

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financial wise he didn't have a whole lot left... he was $400 million in debt... he was renting a place for $100,000 per month but i suspect it was being paid for by the concert promoter of the london shows he was going to do in July and such... an advance or something...

Anyways even though he wasn't convicted of the child molestation charges i really don't think he should of been praised neither and forgotten what he did or was charged with.... another example would be liking praising OJ when he passes away (and i know you think OJ is innocent Glass but for the majority of us)...

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He was brilliant as related to music.

One thing many of us get from music, is that we get the opportunity to relate to a song and remember an earlier time in ours lives.

It's seems that certain artists, especially the one's we consider our generation, do that for us.

That's one of the really nice things we get from these entertainers and their music.

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Such is life -guess the spirit turns kinder when someone dies -

MJ was a controversial figure and I didnt like what he stood for alive and only show sympathy for his tragic life ---what is really sad is no one really helped him --- his death may finally bring him peace --

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quote:
Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
He was brilliant as related to music.


I didn't see him as brilliant in music at all. Except for his work with the Jackson 5 I really didn't consider his music afterwards as anything special and spare me that he sold whatever millions. Selling a certain # does not equate brilliancy. Because of his past fame the PR and Marketing machines of the 80's created a "myth" about him and it worked.

He is no Elvis, Lennon, Hendrix, Joplin,Morrison, Gaye etc.

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What I thought was sick was a little boy was able to tell police certain characteristics of MJ's privates, and then police were able to match his testimony with the truth. Now that was what led me to believe that he did it.

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Quote Machiavelli:

didn't see him as brilliant in music at all. Except for his work with the Jackson 5 I really didn't consider his music afterwards as anything special and spare me that he sold whatever millions. Selling a certain # does not equate brilliancy. Because of his past fame the PR and Marketing machines of the 80's created a "myth" about him and it worked.

He is no Elvis, Lennon, Hendrix, Joplin,Morrison, Gaye etc.

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There are many that would disagree with you.

They would be placing him with the likes of those you mentioned in your post.

His music was better when he did it on his own.

I was not a big fan of his music overall, although i did like a few of his songs.

But then again i do not relate to him as my generation of music.

I would lean towards those you mentioned and others.

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Quote CashCowMoo:

What I thought was sick was a little boy was able to tell police certain characteristics of MJ's privates, and then police were able to match his testimony with the truth. Now that was what led me to believe that he did it.

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If it had been my kid and from what i heard from these statements was true, don't think there's any way they could have ever payed me off.

But it was also strange why these parents would ever let their kids stay with him.

They had to know that everything was not right with him.

Big money and his type of status makes other people do stupid things.

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[beginning of rant]

Fame does not equate to greatness.

Popularity is not a measure of character.

Celebrity does not mean a person is important.

What is interesting is not necessarily important.


--he was talented and he died. That is not a reason for a national day of mourning and for the TV to become the (dead) Michael Jackson channel.

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what a sweetheart....


Michael Jackson’s fans are still in a state of shock over the King of Pop’s sudden death on Thursday.

So some were a little rankled when Michael’s father, Joe, turned up at the BET awards in Los Angeles on Sunday night and worked the red carpet, speaking of his late son AND plugging his latest business venture: a record label.

In a red carpet interview with CNN reporter Don Lemon, Joe said of the funeral arrangements: “We haven’t gotten to that yet.” When Lemon asks about how his bereaved wife and children are doing, Joe responds curtly “they’re all doing fine.”

“But I want to make this statement, this is a real good statement here,” Joe says next as he introduces his business partner, Marshall Thompson. “Marshall and I we own a record company called Ranch Records.”

Thompson then steps forward to explain that Ranch Records, which will employ Blu-Ray technology, is the “next step” for Joe Jackson. A seemingly confused Lemon then changes the subject.

At a Monday morning press conference to address his son’s second autopsy and plans for a funeral, Jackson explained that he only brought up the record label because he was asked.

“I was asked a question last night about the record company,” Joe said. “What I’m doing is I established a record company with Marshall and the company is called Ranch Records …,” he said. “So we have a lot of good artists fixing to come out.”

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Quote Jordanreed:

beginning of rant]

Fame does not equate to greatness.

Popularity is not a measure of character.

Celebrity does not mean a person is important.

What is interesting is not necessarily important.


--he was talented and he died. That is not a reason for a national day of mourning and for the TV to become the (dead) Michael Jackson channel.

[rant terminated}
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Trying to follow this one.

Is this your opinion or a quote?

Because two of those might be the truth but in reality to some they are not, that's the problem.

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While everyone else in the world praises MJ this is what I think of him:

SHED NO TEARS FOR THIS TWISTED SICKO

YOU'D have thought by the media lovefest that the pope had died a tragic death after a lifetime of caring for lepers.

But, no, it was the death of Michael Jackson, a drug-addled, creepy-beyond-words, accused pedophile who literally bought his children with the help of two brood mares and, apparently, his dermatologist -- a group of amoral savages who had no problem giving their kids to a man who looked like the Phantom of the Opera and who behaved like a depraved worm.

You can call it "adoption," but I call it child-trafficking.

OK, I said it -- and it's about time somebody had the nerve to say what millions of people must feel and believe about the once-talented black man who turned himself into a white woman before turning himself into a monster.

But you'd never know any of that if you'd listened for the past week to the endless prattle from the sickening, fawning media and all those Hollywood music phonies who were crying crocodile tears over someone they'd mostly avoided like, well, a pedophile.

Even the president of the United States felt compelled to issue a statement. Are you kidding me?

I say all this not just as some casual bystander to the Michael Jackson freak show -- though I was a Jacko freak back in 1993, when I was as in awe of him as the rest of the world. But then one day, a friend came to see me at my office at another newspaper and everything changed.

"My cousin's boy's been hijacked by Michael Jackson," he said. He pulled out two photos of the boy, Jordie Chandler, with Jackson. They were dressed alike -- in fedoras, little black suits, each wearing one freaking glove. They were on a roller-coaster -- in Europe.

Jordie's mother had remarried, and his stepfather had introduced her to Jackson. Within weeks, the sleepovers among Jackson and her gorgeous 13-year-old son and 5-year-old daughter began. The boy broke down and told his father that he'd been molested at Jackson's playground, Neverland Ranch, and in Europe.

The dad, a dentist-to-the-stars and screenwriter, contacted authorities, and shortly thereafter was jumped and beaten bloody in a garage. His home was broken into, and thugs menaced patients in his waiting room. The authorities told him it might be best if he and his son disappeared for a while. They settled for more than $20 million. The father took the boy underground, and he had plastic surgery and disguised himself for safety. Dental practice destroyed, screenwriting career over, family in tatters.

Jackson walked free -- or as free as a tortured soul can be -- to repeat over and over again his hideous tricks with children at Neverland, a place straight out of "Hansel and Gretel."

It is in this very spot where his family wanted to put on their grotesque public display of his sadly emaciated, needle-marked body, reportedly to be dressed "like a prince," as though he has become one of the garish statues upon which he loved to drop millions in Las Vegas hotel tchotchke shops. Another circus of the macabre to add to the horror that became Michael Jackson's life.

This is the kind of madness that's followed Jackson's death -- everyone is acting as though the world has lost one of its greatest men.

The King of Pop was a great entertainer -- innovative beyond anyone the world had ever seen -- but he turned into a disgustingly depraved man who hung an infant off a balcony and forced his kids to walk around with masks, veils, towels and even nets over their faces.

Great men don't pretend to be childlike to disguise their depravities. Shameful.

The king is dead, and I for one am not crying.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07022009/news/columnists/shed_no_tears_for_this_twis ted_sicko_177187.htm

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOjc70f4p8&feature=related

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quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
While everyone else in the world praises MJ this is what I think of him:

SHED NO TEARS FOR THIS TWISTED SICKO

YOU'D have thought by the media lovefest that the pope had died a tragic death after a lifetime of caring for lepers.

But, no, it was the death of Michael Jackson, a drug-addled, creepy-beyond-words, accused pedophile who literally bought his children with the help of two brood mares and, apparently, his dermatologist -- a group of amoral savages who had no problem giving their kids to a man who looked like the Phantom of the Opera and who behaved like a depraved worm.

You can call it "adoption," but I call it child-trafficking.

OK, I said it -- and it's about time somebody had the nerve to say what millions of people must feel and believe about the once-talented black man who turned himself into a white woman before turning himself into a monster.

But you'd never know any of that if you'd listened for the past week to the endless prattle from the sickening, fawning media and all those Hollywood music phonies who were crying crocodile tears over someone they'd mostly avoided like, well, a pedophile.

Even the president of the United States felt compelled to issue a statement. Are you kidding me?

I say all this not just as some casual bystander to the Michael Jackson freak show -- though I was a Jacko freak back in 1993, when I was as in awe of him as the rest of the world. But then one day, a friend came to see me at my office at another newspaper and everything changed.

"My cousin's boy's been hijacked by Michael Jackson," he said. He pulled out two photos of the boy, Jordie Chandler, with Jackson. They were dressed alike -- in fedoras, little black suits, each wearing one freaking glove. They were on a roller-coaster -- in Europe.

Jordie's mother had remarried, and his stepfather had introduced her to Jackson. Within weeks, the sleepovers among Jackson and her gorgeous 13-year-old son and 5-year-old daughter began. The boy broke down and told his father that he'd been molested at Jackson's playground, Neverland Ranch, and in Europe.

The dad, a dentist-to-the-stars and screenwriter, contacted authorities, and shortly thereafter was jumped and beaten bloody in a garage. His home was broken into, and thugs menaced patients in his waiting room. The authorities told him it might be best if he and his son disappeared for a while. They settled for more than $20 million. The father took the boy underground, and he had plastic surgery and disguised himself for safety. Dental practice destroyed, screenwriting career over, family in tatters.

Jackson walked free -- or as free as a tortured soul can be -- to repeat over and over again his hideous tricks with children at Neverland, a place straight out of "Hansel and Gretel."

It is in this very spot where his family wanted to put on their grotesque public display of his sadly emaciated, needle-marked body, reportedly to be dressed "like a prince," as though he has become one of the garish statues upon which he loved to drop millions in Las Vegas hotel tchotchke shops. Another circus of the macabre to add to the horror that became Michael Jackson's life.

This is the kind of madness that's followed Jackson's death -- everyone is acting as though the world has lost one of its greatest men.

The King of Pop was a great entertainer -- innovative beyond anyone the world had ever seen -- but he turned into a disgustingly depraved man who hung an infant off a balcony and forced his kids to walk around with masks, veils, towels and even nets over their faces.

Great men don't pretend to be childlike to disguise their depravities. Shameful.

The king is dead, and I for one am not crying.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07022009/news/columnists/shed_no_tears_for_this_twis ted_sicko_177187.htm

Yikes!!!
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Exactley. Read this!!!

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Boy That Accused Michael Jackson Of Molesting Him Admits It Was A LIE!!
Yung Toon on Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:50 pm


After the sudden death of Michael Jackson Evan Chandler tells the truth.

In 1993, Chandler told a psychiatrist and police that he and Jackson had engaged in sexual acts that included oral sex, the boy gave detailed description of Jackson’s genitals. The case was settled out of court for a reported $22 million, but the strain led Jackson to begin taking painkillers. Eventually he became addicted.

Now maybe for the remorse of his death Chandler decides to tell us the truth. ” I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now i can’t tell Michael how much i’m sorry and if he will forgive me ”.Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, “If I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever…

Under the influence of a controversial father (Jordan Chandler) told his son to tell that Jackson had touched his *****.Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer’s genitals.
” Now for the first time i can’t bare to lie anymore. Michael Jackson didn’t do anything to me, all was my father lies to escape from being poor.”

soucre: http://awkwardstar.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/jordan-chandler-admits-he-lied-about -michael-jackson/

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Odd.... says "Page not found" and who the f*ck are awkward star? ...

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quote:
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Quote CashCowMoo:

What I thought was sick was a little boy was able to tell police certain characteristics of MJ's privates, and then police were able to match his testimony with the truth. Now that was what led me to believe that he did it.

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If it had been my kid and from what i heard from these statements was true, don't think there's any way they could have ever payed me off.

But it was also strange why these parents would ever let their kids stay with him.

They had to know that everything was not right with him.

Big money and his type of status makes other people do stupid things.

I dont think I would be surprised at all to know the parents knew MJ was a freak like that and they set their kid up to be exploited so they could rake in on a future settlement.

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Originally posted by Machiavelli:
Odd.... says "Page not found" and who the f*ck are awkward star? ...

You mean you don't get all your breaking news from awkward star? [Razz]

Just another attempt by delutional jacko fans to make that twisted pervert into a victim

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