quote:why would dems..or any american.. want every deadbeat to have a bigscreen and every productive job to move overseas?..why?...that doesnt make any sense!
You got that right! It's insane. But that's exactly what you socialists are doing RIGHT NOW. I can't tell you how many of my Section 8 tenants have big screen tv's. It's ridiculous and YOU are paying for it.
Equally as puzzling is why you socialists hate business and are continually trying to find ways to penalize business. The unions have destroyed the auto business in this country and that "card check" plan will do even more damage. Add to that all the environmentalist wacko damage to our economy and yes - YOU are driving business and jobs overseas.
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"Equally as puzzling is why you socialists hate business and are continually trying to find ways to penalize business"
I think youre the socialist..why are you so for big government and spending..you spend,spend,spend,,like money grows on trees! it doesnt!..why did you idiots get us into this mess?..you want to destroy this country! why?..money is so dam important to you! its all you wackos think about..everything you do is all about lining your own pockets!!..you want to control the world with your fascists ways..your disgusting and destroying america!!
quote:I think youre the socialist..why are you so for big government and spending..you spend,spend,spend,,like money grows on trees! it doesnt!..why did you idiots get us into this mess?..you want to destroy this country! why?..money is so dam important to you! its all you wackos think about..everything you do is all about lining your own pockets!!..you want to control the world with your fascists ways..your disgusting and destroying america!!
You're right that the Bush administration spent money like it grew on trees and they bear a LOT of responsibility for the mess we are in. Bush was no conservative.
quote:you're a bunch of alpha male,money grubbing,egotistical, self-important, people, on the losing end...and its humiliating for you..
your pathetic
I can see that your tuition at the Bdgee school of gibberish wasn't wasted.
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quote:fact is? i am a conservative, and i have nothing in common with him
You have NOTHING in common with conservatives. In fact, the views you've expresses on this forum are right out of the liberal's playbook!
which one in particular. post it and i'll prove you wrong.
what i represent here is intolerance for lying and cheating mostly.
i'll let you in on a secret to you, and noone else who's been here a few years.
i posted in so many words that Bush is no conservative right here a few years ago. people who were "conservative" were aghast that i would suggest such a nonsenical concept.
of course this was before the economy crashed (yes past tense) and the "ultra right (who only think they know what it means to be conservative) began repeating what i had been saying for a very long time.
you and rush are an embarrasment to intellectual conservatism.
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what bdg? you are doing your part to make dialogue impossible too.
that really is the point.
i have friends that are really liberal and i can have a meaningful discussion with them and agree to disagree without using four letter words.
limbugger doesn't even have dialogues, he shares monologues...
which is what most people stop doing at 5 years old.
there is something fundamentally screwed up about someone who can hatefully annonce they aren't hateful, and that people who think they are hateful are doodooheads
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: what bdg? you are doing your part to make dialogue impossible too.
that really is the point.
i have friends that are really liberal and i can have a meaningful discussion with them and agree to disagree without using four letter words.
limbugger doesn't even have dialogues, he shares monologues...
which is what most people stop doing at 5 years old.
there is something fundamentally screwed up about someone who can hatefully annonce they aren't hateful, and that people who think they are hateful are doodooheads :D
My, my....
Looking for a scrum, are you?
Sorry, I am not interested in playing that game.
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GOP far cry from lincoln conservative just a way to hide fascist the way I see it.
The great past as they put it never was great or in other words good for people. And history is very plain about.
Working people only got ahead from progressives. And fighting for a piece of the pie. Limbaugh is reacting to the current state of affairs his idiot mouth may land him a jail cell in the end if we don't make it out of this.
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I surely don't support Limbaugh being put away for having asinine and stupid political opinions. However, I wouldn't at all see it wrong for him to get a good bit of time for his drug offenses.
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: You're right that the Bush administration spent money like it grew on trees and they bear a LOT of responsibility for the mess we are in. Bush was no conservative.
We'll correct me if i am wrong but didn't the right wing and conservatives put him in power? If so whether Bush was or wasn't a true conservative he nonetheless represented the conservative right wing because they put him in power so therefor the right wing conservatives , who put him in power are as much to blame... PERIOD! (btw I repeat myself about who put him in power so you get the point)
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: You're right that the Bush administration spent money like it grew on trees and they bear a LOT of responsibility for the mess we are in. Bush was no conservative.
We'll correct me if i am wrong but didn't the right wing and conservatives put him in power? If so whether Bush was or wasn't a true conservative he nonetheless represented the conservative right wing because they put him in power so therefor the right wing conservatives , who put him in power are as much to blame... PERIOD! (btw I repeat myself about who put him in power so you get the point)
don't confuse him mach. he's convinced hismelf it would be worse now if he hadn't allowed himself to be suckered twice.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: I can't show you the source, Jordan, but I can tell you how to hear it.
Turn on your radio and listen to the Fat Rush show. He's the republican's God, the most powerful voice in right-wing-America, King of the Hill, so to speak, of the manure pile of political propaganda and anti-First Amendment lies and misrepresentation of Constitutional fact.
Oprah is your Rush Limbaugh. Both very rich, both have not held office, and both have a massive following. Oprah's brown nosing and lust of Obama is so easy to see. She is not as in your face because she is a woman and keep is lower toned. She is stubborn and closed minded.
Keith Olberman is your outlet, your mentor, whom you mirror in your posts. Loudmouth, arrogant, and judgemental.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Rush's big brainwashing azz is one of the problems to the solution.
Sombody that thinks they're always right(this means you too bg), can not always be right.
And, Nancy, or should I say, Obama is so far left, he even writes with his left hand!
'Dem TWO wrongs don't make it right...
You going to ever get around to something to actually do believe or try or are you planning to keep on riding the fence and blaming everybody else and acting superior?
If being more centered is "acting superior" then I guess you cought me, I'm guilty.
Both party lines are way to far out there for my taste right now... although I am a democrat, I disagree with about 99.99% of what Pelosi says and does. Hell the Liberals got mad at Obama just because he was trying to communicate more with the GOP's, for just trying to work with 'em. Then every one of them voted against his Bill(Nancy's really).
I mean, if you're rowing a boat and you only use the left ore, you're just going to go in circles... same with the right ore. You see, I think that's Our(U.S.A.'s) problem right now. We're too busy fighting with each other and not getting enough accomplished. But that's just only my superior point of view of it.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Rush's big brainwashing azz is one of the problems to the solution.
Sombody that thinks they're always right(this means you too bg), can not always be right.
And, Nancy, or should I say, Obama is so far left, he even writes with his left hand!
'Dem TWO wrongs don't make it right...
You going to ever get around to something to actually do believe or try or are you planning to keep on riding the fence and blaming everybody else and acting superior?
If being more centered is "acting superior" then I guess you cought me, I'm guilty.
Both party lines are way to far out there for my taste right now... although I am a democrat, I disagree with about 99.99% of what Pelosi says and does. Hell the Liberals got mad at Obama just because he was trying to communicate more with the GOP's, for just trying to work with 'em. Then every one of them voted against his Bill(Nancy's really).
I mean, if you're rowing a boat and you only use the left ore, you're just going to go in circles... same with the right ore. You see, I think that's Our(U.S.A.'s) problem right now. We're too busy fighting with each other and not getting enough accomplished. But that's just only my superior point of view of it.
Centered you are not unless negatively and impotently is being centered.
You are like nothing more than an always nagging negative back seat driver, always vocal but never with the nerve to perform, just ever vocal and ever insinuating about the efforts of those the do.
As for your limited boat with only one oar in use, learn to skull.....
But wait, that might be productive an doing more than looking on and offering unwanted, usually intended meddlesome advice to others that do things.
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I preform,it's the far right and left politicians that are not preforming...
I vote, I write, I call these lop-sided one tract minded politicians. Hell, last election I even hit up straight democrat, for the first time ever, because one of the many differences we have(thank god), is It won't kill me to vote for the better man, even if he is a Republican.
Another superior point of view I have... Split the Liberals out of the Democrat party, Take the Conservatives out of the Republican party. Let them run a Liberal party, a Conservative party against the Democrat party and the Republican party. Strip those labels and then we can get back to what made this great Nation, back to what it once stood for.
But it's people like you that has all the answers... and the insults, and the mud slinging. You know the type, The know it alls! and their "skulls" keeps drifting farther left (or right) until it's way off course.
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Obama did not work with the republicans - he let pelosi and reid be the prez- and in all he is doing - he is extreme left ---instead of giving folks opportunity - he is stealing the future of our kids to create a welfare state - which ultimately will collappse-
Obama is liar - he says no pork where it is apparent his stimulus bill is 2/3 pork --his budget is all left agenda --
Like, i said before we needed a stimulus bill but not a pork bill - it stunned me that in a crisis all he cared about was his left agenda vs leadership -
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quote:Originally posted by thinkmoney: Obama did not work with the republicans - he let pelosi and reid be the prez- and in all he is doing - he is extreme left ---instead of giving folks opportunity - he is stealing the future of our kids to create a welfare state - which ultimately will collappse-
Obama is liar - he says no pork where it is apparent his stimulus bill is 2/3 pork --his budget is all left agenda --
Like, i said before we needed a stimulus bill but not a pork bill - it stunned me that in a crisis all he cared about was his left agenda vs leadership -
TM, none of this produces results, all it does is make bdgee want to call you a name
of course it's left agenda. he is from the left and he got elected. so did Pelosi and Reid.
the fact that we as a nation (wall st in particular) went bankrupt last year sort of required some heavy lifting.
all this blaming fannie mac and the poor people is ignoring what really happened.
what happened was the people that make the big bucks all took too much RISK, now, let's look at the defintions of Conservative:
Miriam has had to revise the defintion a wee bit in the last ten years... lets go to the Traditional meaning:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: O'Reilly is opposite at Fox, he's probably the least offensive of their people, but then Hannity comes on and he is one of the worst..
I can't watch O'Reilly he doesn't let his guest speak.
Lou Dobbs is great!
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He's too angry all the damn time and his over-use of the word pithy is like nails on a chalk board.. Then the scripted yelling matches with Geraldo were just way too much.
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The fact is that too many people base their opinions and knowledge on what they hear from O'reilly, Hannity, Coulter, Olberman, Maddow, Matthews etc. They should be reading and watching many different outlets including the BBC and other world news. Researching for themselves since we now have a library in our homes called the internet.
The people of this country need to start thinking for themselves instead of being lazy and letting a few pundits create their reality. Anyone with a bit of common sense and intelligence knows that the truth lies somewhere between what the Right and Left portray.
Neither side is completely right but a logical balance of the two may just work. I find Pelosi as hard to stomach as those on the Far right. She doesn't represent my views any better than Rush's constituents do. IMO, both extremes have been proven wrong.
It's far past the time for the moderate view to take control and steer the ship because all this lurch to the Left and Right is getting the country sea sick.
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for some reason Obama doesn't look the same on their program... he looks, well, normal, the US networks are probably using some sort of digital enhancement on him (like the first down line in football) to make us all fall under his "spell"
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: including the BBC
i watch BBC world news once a week or so...
for some reason Obama doesn't look the same on their program... he looks, well, normal, the US networks are probably using some sort of digital enhancement on him (like the first down line in football) to make us all fall under his "spell"
LOL.. I watch BBC NEWS almost everyday to see what the world sees that we don't. I also watch a lot of PBS, they have some good balanced programs. Pretty much given up on the Major networks since it's splashed all over the net. Do more reading of think tanks, liberal, conservative or nonpolitical. Like I said the truth is somewhere in between.
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