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Anyone who doesn't agree with bdgee is a bigot according to him.

Just an FYI

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No, cow, That's bullsh-t.

However, don't despair. Whether or not you agree or disagree, you are a bigot. It is prejudice that delineates it. And the Lord knows you have never spared the prejudice.

Is there any person or people you don't consider unworthy of treating like a human and that you don't thrill at every opportunity of declaring that they don't deserve to have the rights the Constitution grants to "the People? Must you besmirch the character of everyone that isn't a bible thumping far right-wing extremist WASP? If not, you have loudly kept their identity of that chosen people hidden.

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Actually bdgee it IS true because you believe that whoever objects to your thoughts or posts is a "bible thumping" bigot. That is bigotry right there. You are just a childish adult. Just like a majority of congressmen and women who are 55 acting like 12 year old kids. If for once you offered solutions instead of accusations you may have a CHANCE of being taken seriously. All you do is blow hot air at people don't agree with you and call them names.

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cow,

You are, indeed, a "bible thumping" bigot."


Now, Mr. Pot, Mr. Black would like top know, please tell us exactly where or when you have offered anything that even MIGHT be a solution to anything? When did you ever even try? All you ever do is insult people and declare that far right-wing dreams are a solution to the exact holes they have put us in.

I'm certainly not surprised you don't take what I say seriously, for a couple of reasons.

First, you are simply not mentally sophisticated enough or too mentally lazy to know what is being said.

Second, whenever anything comes up that is not coincident with that wealth of bias and bigotry you cling to. you respond not with information, but with vulgar character attacks, just as you did here.

Here is a solution: GO LEARN SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ESSENTIALLY A CUT AND PASTE JOB FROM FOX NEWS OR FAT RUSH THE DOPER. If we needed to have those slanted interpretations, we could get them clean and direct with no need of your intermediaryism.

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My point proven.

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Classic Professor Gibberish! No intelligent thought - just a bunch of childish insults; name calling; and nonsense!
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Yep,

"you (two) are simply not mentally sophisticated enough or too mentally lazy to know what is being said. "

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My point proven again

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cow,

Essentially, every post of yours is some way to demean and degrade someone somewhere. You seem to believe it is "smart", much as PM does.

What it actually is is a proof that your claimed Christianity is superficial and/or false.

You cannot resist the urge to belittle and insult and compare people and make rude accusatory insinuations about their character, their actions, or their beliefs, clearly ignoring the fact that the religion you so loudly insist you have a monopoly on had a profit that told you to be without sin or not cast the first stone.

I tell you this in hope of offering you a way to improve yourself. I must admit, though, I doubt you will offer even a passing consideration of it, choosing instead to use it as an excuse to attack with more venom, disrespect, and hate.

I tried.

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ANNNND.......again.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
ANNNND.......again.

cash? your uh signature is not exactly conducive to ending the "problem"...

since you don't even have the quote right? or the spirit in which it was stated? i though you might like to see what he actually said:

Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it.

But the truth is, is that, our challenge is to get people persuaded that we can make progress when there’s not evidence of that in their daily lives.You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Um, now these are in some communities, you know. I think what you’ll find is, is that people of every background — there are gonna be a mix of people, you can go in the toughest neighborhoods, you know working-class lunch-pail folks, you’ll find Obama enthusiasts. And you can go into places where you think I’d be very strong and people will just be skeptical. The important thing is that you show up and you’re doing what you’re doing.


you can find the whole speech right here. it's worth the time to read, he wasn't calling anyone typical.

http://inkslwc.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/barack-obama-bitter-pennsylvanians-cling -to-guns-or-religion/


it seems to me that he was correct, if not Right. [Wink]

and? the bitterer people sound? the more correct he becomes.

i hear alot of bitterness lately, and it's not Obama's fault.

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Still Glass, you just dont say that at such a sensitive time.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Still Glass, you just dont say that at such a sensitive time.

i'm not excusing him, what i'm saying is that the bitterness is getting worse.

even here.

he was quoted well out of context, and i bet you that pretty soon? alot of liberals are going to be biotching about how "centrist" he is..

it's youzalls choices how to post here and talk elsewhere.. budgee isn't going to change all by himself and you know it.

Obama never lied to us so far, that's a huge start. i expect him to tho [Wink]

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i should restate that part about Obama lying, i haven't caught a lie out of him yet, but i'm watching [Big Grin]

we have a rough few years ahead, no matter who is in charge.

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Obama will be a GREAT president IMO. I am not expecting him to lie to us, yet I've expected it out of a lot of past presidents.(When will I learn)

I believe that if Obama does get caught in a lie, there could be an uprising due to the times.

I am expecting Obama to be forthcoming with the public, thus making the "Obama for Change" slogan true.

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well, i hope you're right Peaser, we need a good president. we desparately need at least a half-decent one...

but he's still a politician, i'm sure even the best of them tell themselves it's for our own good when they sart and then it's just freighttrains form there..

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Virgins...

Hopefully Obama will keep himself honest with all the experience surrounding him.

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yep... we hired him cuz he wasn't already all "infected"

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but he's still a politician, i'm sure even the best of them tell themselves it's for our own good when they sart and then it's just freighttrains form there..

Agreed.

He will be great, only if he remains honest and forthcoming, and does not succumb to politicism.

Politicism could be a new word in Webster's, and redefine politics going forward.

I've got high hopes...

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Different people will see what they want. Not being able to fulfill campaign promises due to changes in the field isn't necessarily a lie.

I don't expect him to roll back the Bush tax cuts as he may want. He needs to be prudent and judge each decision on the best available data at the time.

No one can say that the landscape hasn't changed since he won the Democratic nomination. It has! The economy is much worse than most were led to believe. Yep, some of us here had a pretty good idea of how bad it was/is.

My biggest hope is that he will be able to step back from the fray and reassess if necessary for the betterment of the nation and not be stubborn like our current President or only hear what he wants to hear. We have had enough of that.

I am encouraged by the choices he has made in selecting his cabinet. He is surrounding himself with intelligent people many who have minds of their own. the ultimate decision will be his but al least it seems that he is willing to listen to all sides, internalizing it and then acting.

I remember during the campaign when the Left was shouting for him to get down in the dirt with McCain/Palin and he took his time to consider then decided to throw a few jabs instead of haymakers. He led his campaign and did it well, hopefully he does the same in this very difficult time.

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Still Glass, you just dont say that at such a sensitive time.

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I'm a "typical white person" that according to Obama, is "bitter and clings to guns and religion."


No but it's okay to divide the country into different classes of Americans because they see things differently. It's okay to insinuate that Obama is a muslim terrorist and not like the rest of us.

Just to show you how a comment can be taken out of context: You are not a "typical White person" since many of them voted for Obama, he could not have won without their vote but according to your signature line you are bitter, cling to guns and religion instead of discourse. I have read your and many others comments throughout the campaign that no matter what evidence was presented you did cling to Guns and Religion. It was stated plainly many times in those posts that Obama was Muslim(terrorist) and going to take away your guns. I guess the old saying is appropriate. If the shoe fits, wear it.

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I really hadn't posted on the subject of the thread. First, the attacks on Mach were way out of line, even for off topic posting. The first thing that came to my mind is what the reaction would have been if he had posted that he was sending every dime he could to help his Brother. I'm sure the response would have been how unamerican he was for sending money to another country to support it instead of keeping it here.

Mach, I wish your brother the best. I have been going through a similar experience with my cousin, who is as close as my bros. are too me. It's been over a year now. Because of Bureaucracy and having stopped working to take care of his sick and elderly parents, he had no medical insurance. He's originally went into the emergency room and was in the hospital for about a week until they realized he had no insurance or means to pay privately. He was then discharged and told to go to the county hospital. Long story short. He was on a catheter for 9 months while they tested for cancer and everything else. He finally had surgery(laser thank god) to remove a blockage. He is off the catheter but the infection recurred so they are back to testing for cancer again. There are a lot of ups and downs, diagnosing the problem is anything but scentific, it's closer to playing the game operation, hit and miss.

Stay strong.

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IMO, don't listen to the local doc.

Get a second or third opinion.

It is worth your life to get to the nearest Cancer Treatment Center Of America.

I know two people that are now "cancer free" for going there.

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I wish that was an option but there aren't any in this area and no funds. There have been 3 opinions already but none of them agree. Life in the big city, you play the hand you are dealt.
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I am sorry to hear wally

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quote:
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I am sorry to hear wally

Thanks, Peaser. I appreciate it. One does what one can and that is why my heart goes out to Mach. Maybe not the only reason but I truly understand.

Peaser, How are you doing? Weren't you ill a while back? Or am I confusing you with someone else. I'm thinking it was about a year maybe year and half ago.

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Quote Wallymac:

"I wish that was an option but there aren't any in this area and no funds. There have been 3 opinions already but none of them agree. Life in the big city, you play the hand you are dealt."

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quote:
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I really hadn't posted on the subject of the thread. First, the attacks on Mach were way out of line, even for off topic posting. The first thing that came to my mind is what the reaction would have been if he had posted that he was sending every dime he could to help his Brother. I'm sure the response would have been how unamerican he was for sending money to another country to support it instead of keeping it here.

Mach, I wish your brother the best. I have been going through a similar experience with my cousin, who is as close as my bros. are too me. It's been over a year now. Because of Bureaucracy and having stopped working to take care of his sick and elderly parents, he had no medical insurance. He's originally went into the emergency room and was in the hospital for about a week until they realized he had no insurance or means to pay privately. He was then discharged and told to go to the county hospital. Long story short. He was on a catheter for 9 months while they tested for cancer and everything else. He finally had surgery(laser thank god) to remove a blockage. He is off the catheter but the infection recurred so they are back to testing for cancer again. There are a lot of ups and downs, diagnosing the problem is anything but scentific, it's closer to playing the game operation, hit and miss.

Stay strong.

Thank you Wally. Your a compassionate person and my prayers are with your cousin.

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quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
IMO, don't listen to the local doc.

Get a second or third opinion.

It is worth your life to get to the nearest Cancer Treatment Center Of America.

I know two people that are now "cancer free" for going there.

I wished my gf had gone there when she was alive. I had suggested it to her but she opted elsewhere. Things like this what makes us wish we could go back in time.

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I am sorry to hear that Mach.

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quote:
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I am sorry to hear that Mach.

Ty Peaser. It's appreciated. Her Bday is coming up on Dec. 24th. Since her death I'm not a holiday person anymore considering her bday is on Xmas Eve.

Anyways what does Cancer Centers of America do that is different then conventional medical centers? I'm just curious for if I ever find myself in a situation that I have cancer.

I read this today, it was interesting and I plan to get his book:

http://www.aolhealth.com/condition-center/cancer/food-cures-healing?icid=2001001 25x1214185736x1200917869

The book:

http://www.amazon.com/Anticancer-New-Life-David-Servan-Schreiber/dp/0670020346/r ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1227822137&sr=1-1

I hope Wally reads these two links to show his cousin. Might help him and others.

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yw Mach.

CTCOA does just that Mach, they attack cancer from all angles.

That is partly what turned me on to USANA, as they produce the highest-end nutritional supps(vitamins+minerals) on the market, aimed at combatting free-radicals + cell degeneration. The founder, Dr. Myron Wentz, is a pretty remarkable man.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04QoA44c23A&feature=related

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quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04QoA44c23A&feature=related

Kinda funny, rather repetitive though.

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quote:
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yw Mach.

CTCOA does just that Mach, they attack cancer from all angles.

That is partly what turned me on to USANA, as they produce the highest-end nutritional supps(vitamins+minerals) on the market, aimed at combatting free-radicals + cell degeneration. The founder, Dr. Myron Wentz, is a pretty remarkable man.

I have heard about them for years but for some reason I never hear doctors praising them or recommending them...

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Thanks Mach, for the links. The problem my cousin has is that after a year there is still no diagnosis. We don't know if he has cancer or not. The good thing is that even at age 69 he is open to alternative's to western medicine. He has friends that have led him to acupuncture and I know he has tried some dietary supplements.

The prostrate is something that all of us men need to be concerned about, especially as we get older.

I want to also thank everyone who has provided links and possible solutions. I do appreciate it.

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