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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
I wonder what, since the Alaska courts have told her husband and the others that refused to answer subpoenas that the subpoenas are legal and effective, are going to do?

Attorney general says seven will now testify

TROOPERGATE: State employees will honor legislative subpoenas.

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/546971.html

Todd Palin campaigned years for firing trooper

SWORN STATEMENT: He says he wanted to protect his family.

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/550349.html

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wallymac,

Only seven of those receiving subpoenas have agreed to answer them and, from that first link it appears Palin's husband thinks the family of government officials (and he in particular) are immune.

"The Judiciary Committee also issued a subpoena to the governor's husband, Todd Palin, who had talked with Monegan and other state workers about his family's displeasure with the trooper.

Todd Palin has refused to honor the subpoena, but his lawyer said he plans to cooperate with a separate investigation the state Personnel Board is conducting into Monegan's firing. That investigation, however, likely won't conclude until after the election."

That second link isn't working and it seems that it should be

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/550229.html

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Have you have misread?

I never said she ever got to the point of burning books or actually censoring books! She clearly tried, but was rebuffed by the librarian, whom, as a result, she fired.

Actually, in that post, I never spoke of what she did or didn't do after becoming mayer. I spoke to how she managed to get elected as mayer, in a tiny town full of republicans eager to support extreme republican political ideas, tactics, and methods.

You are indeed correct, " She never got to the point of actually censoring or burning books" and "No books were removed from the shelves."

I never said or implied otherwise.

It does seems clear that, had it not been for a highly principled librarian, Palin certainly would have gotten away with using the influence and power of her office to censor books.

Then there is the so called "troupergate. What else is she willing to coerce via threat to the livelyhood of those she holds power over?

There absolutely is a factual concern here and one that shouldn't be dismissed with a "Sorry but it isn't factual", which is supported by a couple of things that, though true, don't address or speak to the statement that was made.

Palin is, in my opinion, in our democratic system that is subject to the rule of law, a dangerous person.

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Palin got to be mayer of a tiny little town filled mostly with Dick Chaney fans by promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library
The entire thing is a blatant lie made up by Professor Gibberish. There is absolutely no evidence that the town is filled "mostly with Dick Chaney fans" and it is certainly just plain fiction that Palin was "promising to burn non-right wing sanctioned books". Another ridiculous lie by Professor Gibberish.
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No, the entire thing is fact!!!

Sarah Palin is a dangerous right-wing political hack who would eagerly put us under a Nazi like fear of the government.

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
wallymac,

Only seven of those receiving subpoenas have agreed to answer them and, from that first link it appears Palin's husband thinks the family of government officials (and he in particular) are immune.

"The Judiciary Committee also issued a subpoena to the governor's husband, Todd Palin, who had talked with Monegan and other state workers about his family's displeasure with the trooper.

Todd Palin has refused to honor the subpoena, but his lawyer said he plans to cooperate with a separate investigation the state Personnel Board is conducting into Monegan's firing. That investigation, however, likely won't conclude until after the election."

That second link isn't working and it seems that it should be

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/550229.html

Subpoenas were issued for 7 employees and Todd Palin. All are now cooperating. The story you linked too is about the Statement Under Oath that Tood Palin submitted to Investigator Branchflower. Thanks for fixing the link.
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No, the entire thing is fact!!!

Sarah Palin is a dangerous right-wing political hack who would eagerly put us under a Nazi like fear of the government.

Ridiculous! If it is fact,then show us proof that Palin got to be mayor by "promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library". Obviously, you don't have any proof because it's just another big LIE!
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quote:
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Palin got to be mayer of a tiny little town filled mostly with Dick Chaney fans by promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library
The entire thing is a blatant lie made up by Professor Gibberish. There is absolutely no evidence that the town is filled "mostly with Dick Chaney fans" and it is certainly just plain fiction that Palin was "promising to burn non-right wing sanctioned books". Another ridiculous lie by Professor Gibberish.
Professor Gibberish! I like it. thanks PM

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http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/08/19/Todd_Palin_s_Subpoena_Responses_10-8-0 81.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

This the the PDF of Todd Palin's response to the Subpoena.

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quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/08/19/Todd_Palin_s_Subpoena_Responses_10-8-0 81.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

This the the PDF of Todd Palin's response to the Subpoena.

So he is co-operating?

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Nope, he has refused to observe the subpoena.
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Well when you dispatch the democratic gestapo to Alaska to create a smear campaign you will get a lot of controversy and mindless babble

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Still waiting for Professor Gibberish to provide proof that Sarah Palin was elected by "promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library."
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Can you believe the stories they have come up about her?

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Can you believe the stories they have come up about her?
Professor Gibberish has outdone himself this time!
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according top Laura Chase her campaign manager during Ms. Palin’s first run for mayor in 1996:


in 1995, Ms. Palin, then a city councilwoman, told colleagues that she had noticed the book “Daddy’s Roommate” on the shelves and that it did not belong there, according to Ms. Chase and Mr. Stein [John Stein, Palin's mayoral predecessor]. Ms. Chase read the book, which helps children understand homosexuality, and said it was inoffensive; she suggested that Ms. Palin read it. “Sarah said she didn’t need to read that stuff,” Ms. Chase said.

“She’s doesn’t like different opinions and she refuses to compromise,” Kilkenny notes. “When she was mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t hers. Worse, ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits but on the basis of who proposed them.”

Sound familiar? Palin may well be Dick Cheney’s reincarnate.


Further buttressing the budget were the earmarks Palin sought for the town after hiring a Washington lobbyist for $38,000 a year. The town secured $27 million in all, including $1.9 million for a transportation hub, $900,000 for sewer repairs and $15 million for a rail project.

Despite the city's flush accounts, the police department under the chief Palin hired to replace Stambaugh required women who said they had been raped to pay for examination kits themselves, a policy Palin now says she rejects. State legislation passed a year later required the town to pay for the kits.

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
Still waiting for Professor Gibberish to provide proof that Sarah Palin was elected by "promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library."

I have the word of the librarian and several others.

So, you provide proof she didn't.

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John McCain is the candidate with the strongest record of cutting spending. Sarah Palin is the candidate who as governor has an established recored of state budget surpluses. they are both strong reformers. Both have gone against their own party.

Has Obama gone against his own party? Nope.


This is what I am afraid of. Barack Obama has voted 96% of the time with his Democratic congressional cohorts, a typical DEMOCRATIC vote to be either more spending or raising taxes.

If he gets elected then we will have a liberal left wing president, a liberal left wing big spending congress, and a democratic executive and legislative branch.....THAT WOULD OFFER NO PROTECTION TO THE TAXPAYER.

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Palin has absolutely no respect for the Constitution and habitually attends and speaks at meetings of an organization whose stated intent is to destroy the United states. http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_par ty.php
http://liberalvalues****.com/?p=4160

According to several sources in her home town, the money required for her to run for both mayor and governor was paid by that organization.

Further, when its head published a statement of hate for the United States referring to it as the "Damned United States" among other worse epithets (mms://streaming.dcc.uaf.edu/jukebox/YUCH/9118-18.mp3), Palin sent him a congratulatory letter of approval.

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Of course Palin wanted to burn books the little fascist pigglet could not wait to at the bottom of the heart of every fascist is to do just that.

I don't need anybody to testify to it.

Just like most birds fly,dogs bark,and fascist love to burn books

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You lefties are a big joke. You make WILD claims that are clearly false and then pretend it's the truth. Why not admit the truth? You made up the claim that Sarah Palin got elected because she was promising to burn books. That was ridiculous and the fact that you can't admit when you're wrong say a lot about your character.
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Sarah Palin is the candidate who as governor has an established recored of state budget surpluses.

LOL... she raised taxes on oil co's in Alaska... that's the same plan that Hillary had as i recall...

she is not conservative. she goes to church, big deal. that doesn't make her conservative.

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
You lefties are a big joke. You make WILD claims that are clearly false and then pretend it's the truth. Why not admit the truth? You made up the claim that Sarah Palin got elected because she was promising to burn books. That was ridiculous and the fact that you can't admit when you're wrong say a lot about your character.

No, I did not make up that claim. I don't have the exact quote anymore or a link to it, but it was a claim voiced by a number of of the residents of Palin's home town and posted several places about the net withing days after McCain picked her, to illustrate how irresponsible McCain is in such important decisions.

You can hunt for it if you want. I ain't a gonna bother, since it isn't something that hasn't been noted here before and in other place many many many times. If you are too lazy to hunt them up, then spend your time hunting and providing reliable proof it isn't so (links to Fat Rush, the Doper, Ann, Rat faced, Coulter, That Looks Like a Boy, Sean Hannity, or Fox News and their like are neither credible nor reliable!


There is nothing false about pointing to the many many incidents of radical and subversive behavior (in and out of office) that Sarah Palin has participated in through her career (or the lies), particularly as there seems to be no efforts on her part to do much but radical and subversive things (or learn to tell the truth).

What is false (or hard toaccept) is your claim that you actually believe THAT woman (snicker) isn't an anti-American seditionist and has any genuine qualifications to serve in the government of the United States of America. Are you really that dumb or really that sick?

(Don't get me wrong! I do not suggest that seditionism is or should be illegal. Similarly, I don't suggest that being a true moron is or should be illegal, but I don't want one for my representative in the House of Representatives.)

Lefties????

Hey, loud mouth ignoramus republican wanna be, I suspect that I'm way more conservative than you ever imagined being. For example, I just got back here from exercising my 2nd Amendment rights, a tooling down the road in my red pick-um up truck on the way with my guns hangin in a gun rack cross the rear winder, singin along with the hillbilly music blasting from the rad-deeoh and out the open winder, and a grinnin full out cause I was a doin what god intended fo us non-damnyankee boys ta have a rhyat ta do. I spect I'll go and do some mo o that later today, too and, iffin I wus yaw'll, I wouldn't try ta stop us.

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Sara Palin should be in the 14th century expelling demons stoneing people.

Every time she opens her big mouth nothing of any content comes out.

She might as well go back to her giant welfare state with all the fat drunks that live there,where the highlight of you life is to strole down 4th and 5th ave in Anchorage and watch the bar fly's bail out of the Bars at closing time which is 5:00 am in the morning.

If you want to see a sight go around the first of the month when they get there welfare checks bars make a killing then.

But you ask any of the big mouth Repubilcan owners and they sure are against government hand outs unless it being spent in thier saloon.

A waste of a state filled with under educated people that would starve if they weren't on the dole

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"But you ask any of the big mouth Repubilcan owners and they sure are against government hand outs unless it being spent in thier saloon."

Or PM's rents.......

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Let's see now, if Sarah Palin were black, we'd have yet another black woman pol that is guilty of abuse of office.

Hey, look on the bright side, that would thrill PM and SF and all the little wanna be republican hate mongers that tag along behind them to parrot their hate and nastiness. They could ignore the fact that she is a hateful evil corrupt far right-wing republican and blame it all on race.

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