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Just think of it for a moment.

Very short: How would the right think of a 17 year old daughter with child out of wedlock. If Sara was Black

Think of a spouse that spent eight years in a political party that stood for secsession. If Sara and he was Black

These are just a few things that if you were black in the U.S. the media and the right wing conservatives would tear you to pieces.

They would call you at the least an immoral revolutionary and you would not ever live it down.

Think of her relegious back ground of publicly casting out demons in the town and accusing people of being in the possion of demons.And if Sara was black what would the media say about her.

Tell me after a little thought that you could honestly say that racism is not a factor in America and that it damages all of us.And just maybe for a world leader we would elect our first nut case and the rest of the world would have to live with it. Finger on the abomb button,calling wars gods work,and thinking she was ruling by gods will

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Just think of it for a moment.

Very short: How would the right think of a 17 year old daughter with child out of wedlock. If Sara was Black

Think of a spouse that spent eight years in a political party that stood for secsession. If Sara and he was Black

These are just a few things that if you were black in the U.S. the media and the right wing conservatives would tear you to pieces.

They would call you at the least an immoral revolutionary and you would not ever live it down.

Think of her relegious back ground of publicly casting out demons in the town and accusing people of being in the possion of demons.And if Sara was black what would the media say about her.

Tell me after a little thought that you could honestly say that racism is not a factor in America and that it damages all of us.And just maybe for a world leader we would elect our first nut case and the rest of the world would have to live with it. Finger on the abomb button,calling wars gods work,and thinking she was ruling by gods will

What on earth would make you even wanna float this scenario? Are you simply just trying to add more race aspects to this election or what?

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quote:
Originally posted by Pagan:
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Originally posted by raybond:
Just think of it for a moment.

Very short: How would the right think of a 17 year old daughter with child out of wedlock. If Sara was Black

Think of a spouse that spent eight years in a political party that stood for secsession. If Sara and he was Black

These are just a few things that if you were black in the U.S. the media and the right wing conservatives would tear you to pieces.

They would call you at the least an immoral revolutionary and you would not ever live it down.

Think of her relegious back ground of publicly casting out demons in the town and accusing people of being in the possion of demons.And if Sara was black what would the media say about her.

Tell me after a little thought that you could honestly say that racism is not a factor in America and that it damages all of us.And just maybe for a world leader we would elect our first nut case and the rest of the world would have to live with it. Finger on the abomb button,calling wars gods work,and thinking she was ruling by gods will

What on earth would make you even wanna float this scenario? Are you simply just trying to add more race aspects to this election or what?
Of course he is!

What if Obama was all white?

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Thank you for restating my post it speaks for itself.

So stop acting dumb as for the race issues they are there I did not create them and If Sara was black she never would be on the ticket so what is your point

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quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
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Originally posted by Pagan:
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Originally posted by raybond:
Just think of it for a moment.

Very short: How would the right think of a 17 year old daughter with child out of wedlock. If Sara was Black

Think of a spouse that spent eight years in a political party that stood for secsession. If Sara and he was Black

These are just a few things that if you were black in the U.S. the media and the right wing conservatives would tear you to pieces.

They would call you at the least an immoral revolutionary and you would not ever live it down.

Think of her relegious back ground of publicly casting out demons in the town and accusing people of being in the possion of demons.And if Sara was black what would the media say about her.

Tell me after a little thought that you could honestly say that racism is not a factor in America and that it damages all of us.And just maybe for a world leader we would elect our first nut case and the rest of the world would have to live with it. Finger on the abomb button,calling wars gods work,and thinking she was ruling by gods will

What on earth would make you even wanna float this scenario? Are you simply just trying to add more race aspects to this election or what?
Of course he is!

What if Obama was all white?

What if he was all black? Race doesn't matter. We need leadership out of this debacle. Plain and simple.

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Thank you for restating my post it speaks for itself.

So stop acting dumb as for the race issues they are there I did not create them and If Sara was black she never would be on the ticket so what is your point

The point is your talking hypotheticals. How about living in the real world and comment on the actual situation. Don't obfuscate the situation with non-sensical ponderables. Stick to the facts and make a comment. Everything else is just BS.

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Thank you for restating my post it speaks for itself.

So stop acting dumb as for the race issues they are there I did not create them and If Sara was black she never would be on the ticket so what is your point

If Palin was black she probably would still have been a smart pick. Two birds with one stone, she would have drawn the black vote as well as women.

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The left has the biggest bunch of racists going! What if 95% of whites voted for McCain because he was white and Osama Obama is 1/2 black? Then, there would be rampant accusations of racism. However, when 95% of blacks will vote for Osama Obama because of his race - that's ok! What if whites in congress had a "white caucus"? That would be an outrage. But when blacks have a black caucus, that's ok.

The TRUTH is that the vast majority of white people are not racists and will vote for whoever is the best candidate. When Ken Blackwell ran for Governor of Ohio in the last election, I fully supported him, sent him money, and of course voted for him. He is black, but I wouldn't have cared if he was green and purple polka dot! I care about his ideology and his policies - not his color.

The choice in this election is between two socialists on one ticket and a socialist-lite and fresh new moderate on the other side. This race has nothing to do with race!!! Racism was over a generation ago - you lefties need to let it go!

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Are you saying in this country racism is not a fact?

Are you saying that peoples sense of values are not affected by racism.

Are you saying that racism does not cause a double standard in this country.

Are you saying that a nut like Palin would even be considered if she was any other color than white?

Are you saying then that if elected the rest of the world would not have to live with her.

What I am saying is empirical based on the past historical atittude of this country you don't have to agree with it or like i don't care.

As a matter of fact I personaly see the results of racism every day and think that the people that are sending other people away for most of there life for something a white person would have got probation for is proof enough for me that we have no business haveing these lunitics we call leaders enforcing there will on the rest of the world.

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this is a hot issue..

all this thread will do is cause more hatred and obscure the issues..

can we lock this thread?

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Are you saying in this country racism is not a fact?

Are you saying that peoples sense of values are not affected by racism.

Are you saying that racism does not cause a double standard in this country.

Are you saying that a nut like Palin would even be considered if she was any other color than white?

Are you saying then that if elected the rest of the world would not have to live with her.

What I am saying is empirical based on the past historical atittude of this country you don't have to agree with it or like i don't care.

As a matter of fact I personaly see the results of racism every day and think that the people that are sending other people away for most of there life for something a white person would have got probation for is proof enough for me that we have no business haveing these lunitics we call leaders enforcing there will on the rest of the world.

I take it you work in the court system.
I disagree with your argument that blacks are given a life sentence as opposed to probation.

What I will agree is that once they are released from their first incarceration they don't have the community backing to help them go straight.

Most blacks are sent right back to the situation that caused them to be in trouble in the first place.

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Are you saying in this country racism is not a fact?

Are you saying that peoples sense of values are not affected by racism.

Are you saying that racism does not cause a double standard in this country.

Are you saying that a nut like Palin would even be considered if she was any other color than white?

Are you saying then that if elected the rest of the world would not have to live with her.

What I am saying is empirical based on the past historical atittude of this country you don't have to agree with it or like i don't care.

As a matter of fact I personaly see the results of racism every day and think that the people that are sending other people away for most of there life for something a white person would have got probation for is proof enough for me that we have no business haveing these lunitics we call leaders enforcing there will on the rest of the world.

If this was directed at me, all anyone has to do is read the last 2 lines of your post to learn your line of thinking. Get over it.

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I'm with Jordan
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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Just think of it for a moment.

Very short: How would the right think of a 17 year old daughter with child out of wedlock. If Sara was Black

Think of a spouse that spent eight years in a political party that stood for secsession. If Sara and he was Black

These are just a few things that if you were black in the U.S. the media and the right wing conservatives would tear you to pieces.

They would call you at the least an immoral revolutionary and you would not ever live it down.

Think of her relegious back ground of publicly casting out demons in the town and accusing people of being in the possion of demons.And if Sara was black what would the media say about her.

Tell me after a little thought that you could honestly say that racism is not a factor in America and that it damages all of us.And just maybe for a world leader we would elect our first nut case and the rest of the world would have to live with it. Finger on the abomb button,calling wars gods work,and thinking she was ruling by gods will

or think about this....(the truth)

Barrack does not kick it with blacks, and for most of his life has not, so he really is selling them an empty bag of hope, he will do very lttle for them, but collect their votes, ah he fooled the fools

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He called her a fresh new moderate...tee hee. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
this is a hot issue..

all this thread will do is cause more hatred and obscure the issues..

can we lock this thread?

Why would we want to discuss a hot issue?

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He called her a fresh new moderate...tee hee. :D

Moderate is a relative term.

Nashville is way up yonder in the north to me. I lived there once and like to froze my you know what all year long.

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quote:
Are you saying in this country racism is not a fact?
Yes, I'm saying that racism was over a generation ago.

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Are you saying that peoples sense of values are not affected by racism.
Yes, I'm saying that people are responsible for their own values and shouldn't blame it on race.

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Are you saying that racism does not cause a double standard in this country.
EXACTLY!

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Are you saying that a nut like Palin would even be considered if she was any other color than white?
Palin is a breath of fresh air. Plain spoken and genuine.

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Are you saying then that if elected the rest of the world would not have to live with her.
Dumb question.

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What I am saying is empirical based on the past historical atittude of this country you don't have to agree with it or like i don't care.
"Past" being the operative word. Get over it and stop whining.
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Some fools just can't wait to open their mouths and prove it.
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hahahahahahah

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The only people I hear that are whinning are the Republicans.

I have a feeling that McCain is going to loose it tonight on public T.V. just watch.

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
The only people I hear that are whinning are the Republicans.

I have a feeling that McCain is going to loose it tonight on public T.V. just watch.

What is it you like about the Democrat party?

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Dumb question.


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What I am saying is empirical based on the past historical atittude of this country you don't have to agree with it or like i don't care.
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Thats not a dumb question because it is a statement. Republican

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Racism, once a real problem, is now nothing more than a buzz word injected into the conversation, by weak minded individuals to deflect from whatever the real issues are.
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Raybond, what is it you like about the democrat party?

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Someday I will answer that question when I feel that I am not being baited.

I am a democrat was born into a blue collar family.

And I am lucky my blue collar work turned into a well paying career for the state. Although it is a tough job.

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it would be nice if the people claiming racism is dead were correct.

i'm sure it's just indicative that we've made alot of progress.

i think it's amazing to hear some people say racism is dead in the same post as they BLAME people for racism too [Big Grin]

raybonds points are very valid IMO.

i've never been a fan of sharpton or jackson. when they speak? i cringe. moslty because they are showing off their scars. however? those scars are very real. denying them doesn't make them fiction.

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i've been monitoring Fox 'News" regularly on their coverage of the campaign.

they LOVE Palin. why?

she taxed oil co's and GAVE cash to voters.

she borrowed 20 million$ (for one project) for a town of 6000, that's 3,333$ per person.

the US has 300 million people. if she did that for ONE project in the US?

that would be 1 trillion ...

and YET there are conservatives that think she should represent them as president?

that's just nutsssssssssssssss....

there is nothing conservative about her.

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Someday I will answer that question when I feel that I am not being baited.

I am a democrat was born into a blue collar family.

And I am lucky my blue collar work turned into a well paying career for the state. Although it is a tough job.

I'm not baiting you. Just wondering what it is that makes you champion the democrat party.
What policies or ideology is it that makes them so superior to all other points of view.

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Face it.

Palin got to be mayer of a tiny little town filled mostly with Dick Chaney fans by promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library and jumped into the governorship of a one party state by being the only contestant running against her party's governor, who was in deep deep legal trouble for the way he had conducted business in that office.

It's like being unbeaten in a league with a two game season, because the crowd chased the other team off the field before the start of the game in the first game, then, in the second game, the opponent failed to show up at all and you got a forfeit.

Gosh, I'm a great winner!

Then, flush with the thrill of victory and never having smelled the agony of defeat, you think you're a quarterback that can handle the job of backup in the Superbowl.

Fat chance.

You'll look just like what you are....untalented, unprepared, untested, and unfailingly failing at every step and way too slow.

McCain should have left Palin on the practice squad and the fact that he didn't have the good judgment to do that suggest a whale of a lot about the judgment he either doesn't have or doesn't use.

I think we'd be better off to not hire that coach if we want a winning team.

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Palin got to be mayer of a tiny little town filled mostly with Dick Chaney fans by promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library
That's a blatant lie! (although I'm not suprised that the king of gibberish would post something this foolish)
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[QUOTE]Palin got to be mayer of a tiny little town filled mostly with Dick Chaney fans by promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library

That's a blatant lie! (although I'm not suprised that the king of gibberish would post something this foolish) [/QUOTE


No, that's a fact!

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well? i heard she was going to burn them efficiently anyway...

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I wonder what, since the Alaska courts have told her husband and the others that refused to answer subpoenas that the subpoenas are legal and effective, are going to do?
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quote:
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[QUOTE]Palin got to be mayer of a tiny little town filled mostly with Dick Chaney fans by promising to burn non-right-wing sanctioned books in the public library

That's a blatant lie! (although I'm not suprised that the king of gibberish would post something this foolish) [/QUOTE


No, that's a fact!

Sorry but it isn't factual. She never got to the point of actually censoring or burning books. She did approach the librarian about potential censorship and did fire her but the librarian was rehired her due to community backlash. No books were removed from the shelves.
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