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We need a new transport system that takes the driver out of the equation. Then it doesn't matter!

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would hardly work, consumer demand just isn't there.
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
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Originally posted by Relentless.:
Ok.. I can't wait.
After two beers or two ounces of grain alcohol
your blood alcohol content will be........?????
Anyone?
.10
That's right kiddo
.10
Meaning that reducing the legal limit to .08 is what?
The act of a government hell bent on imprisoning people for being what?
Normal.
Class is over pumkin.
Please review all of this as there will be a test for you.

for me it's three ... the last time i had 'em? i didn't even feel three beers...

dang, i need to put new batteries in my keyboard i do not type this bad [Big Grin]

Not sure, never tested myself..
Leave the batteries alone.. reminds us of Bdgee [Smile]

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what was it Huey Lewis said?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSFX1Vb3xQ

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rotf...

one of the easiest ways to pizz off a cop? Know the law better than they do...then tell 'em, "You caint dew THAT!"

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btw, have skimmed the thread...here in Texas DWI and DUI are completely separate. For instance, adults can not receive a DUI, which is reserved for minors & alcohol...

True story, small town in Texas: kid winds up in a cement culvert, slammed against the windshield. Car is totaled, big ol' Caddy; is unclear whether seatbelts failed or were not in use.

Cops arrive, pull kid from car and find two lids of pot, which weigh out full, an ounce each, indicating the kid has not "dipped" into either oz. Cops administer field sobriety test,and the kid fails and goes to jail...Later the kid testifies he "comes to" in jail, while cops are administering breathalyzer, which registers zero.

Cop swears...says, sumpin's not right. Gets another tester. Same thing: zero.

Apparently, the kid has a concussion, from impact with windshield. Medical treatment? None.

Booked on pot charge, misdemeanor possession...arraigned next day on pot charge. Still no medical care... Kid bonds out on pot charge. No mention in paperwork of alcohol, field tests, nada...

Weeks later? Kid gets a notice of warrant re Failure to Appear on DUI charge... Automatic suspension of license, 60 days, state level, Texas DPS.

Meanwhile...kid gets an attorney who works a plea on the pot charge, if he does community service and clean UAs--which the kid does: adjudication.

Double meanwhile: new attorney figures out that DA refused a DWI case so the cops filed a DUI--which is for ONLY alcohol. New attorney gets case dismissed...there's no evidence of alcohol.

BUT...the state suspension remains on record. Why?

Under Texas state law, the only way to remove the suspension is if the case is tried and the result is an acquittal or a not guilty verdict.

Can *not* be dismissed...

Can you say Byzantine?

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
here's the "funny" part:

PM,you call yourself a "conservative" and i agree that i don't like to have to worry about whether the guy getting on the hiway with me and everybody else is drunk and gonna commit murder and mayhem? you are missing the draconian point of all this.

the Federal Government Wrote this law... they have NO right to write this law and quite a few others, but they do. as a conservative? this SHOULD pss you off, but it doesn't.

they write laws and then tell the states they'll with-hold funding if they don't pass the laws (as in no child left behind?)

the "problem is that they don't even have the money they are "giving" the states to spend anyway... they are borrowing it from our grandchildren. there's nothing conservative at all about this approach.... it violates almost every tenet of conservatism...

This deserves to be reposted as it is right on point.
No one is suggesting that downing ten bottles of mad dog 20/20 and zooming through a pack of trick or treaters is a good thing...
It's the government's domineering control and its insistence on defying it's original purpose that is the issue.
They get away with it by creating "thems".
Ever hear the divide and conquer line?
They are putting it to task.

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
rotf...

one of the easiest ways to pizz off a cop? Know the law better than they do...then tell 'em, "You caint dew THAT!"

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btw, have skimmed the thread...here in Texas DWI and DUI are completely separate. For instance, adults can not receive a DUI, which is reserved for minors & alcohol...

True story, small town in Texas: kid winds up in a cement culvert, slammed against the windshield. Car is totaled, big ol' Caddy; is unclear whether seatbelts failed or were not in use.

Cops arrive, pull kid from car and find two lids of pot, which weigh out full, an ounce each, indicating the kid has not "dipped" into either oz. Cops administer field sobriety test,and the kid fails and goes to jail...Later the kid testifies he "comes to" in jail, while cops are administering breathalyzer, which registers zero.

Cop swears...says, sumpin's not right. Gets another tester. Same thing: zero.

Apparently, the kid has a concussion, from impact with windshield. Medical treatment? None.

Booked on pot charge, misdemeanor possession...arraigned next day on pot charge. Still no medical care... Kid bonds out on pot charge. No mention in paperwork of alcohol, field tests, nada...

Weeks later? Kid gets a notice of warrant re Failure to Appear on DUI charge... Automatic suspension of license, 60 days, state level, Texas DPS.

Meanwhile...kid gets an attorney who works a plea on the pot charge, if he does community service and clean UAs--which the kid does: adjudication.

Double meanwhile: new attorney figures out that DA refused a DWI case so the cops filed a DUI--which is for ONLY alcohol. New attorney gets case dismissed...there's no evidence of alcohol.

BUT...the state suspension remains on record. Why?

Under Texas state law, the only way to remove the suspension is if the case is tried and the result is an acquittal or a not guilty verdict.

Can *not* be dismissed...

Can you say Byzantine?

bump...I never know when these eop posts get lost...

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What were we talking about?

quote:
FBI rescinds secret order for Internet Archive records
Posted by Anne Broache 7 comments

The FBI has backed down on a secret request for information about a user of the Internet Archive digital library, thanks to a legal challenge from two prominent advocacy groups.

The case, which was brought by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of the archive, dates to last year but only became public on Wednesday. That's because the type of request involved, known as a national security letter (NSL), is accompanied by a gag order that forbids the recipient from disclosing its existence or discussing it with anyone except his attorneys, who are also gagged. As a result of a settlement, the FBI agreed to withdraw the national security letter and to lift the gag order.

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9938603-7.html

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quote:
under the influence is ONE drink, period, end of story... look it up.
That is absolutely wrong. As I said before, you can not be charged with DUI in Ohio unless your BAC is .08. There is no DUI with one drink unless you weigh so little that one drink will raise your BAC to .08. There is a different law for young drivers, but that has nothing to do with adults. You guys are just making that up, as evidenced by your failing to provide a specific reference.

You can not be charged with DUI for alcohol in Ohio at the discretion of the cop - you can only be charged if you fail the BAC test.

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What is your blood alcohol content after one drink?
For the average male, it would be about .025, which is not even close to .08. To get to .08, it would take the average male about 3 drinks over a very short period of time. Since the alcohol is constantly being processed, Three drinks in an hour would only give the average male a BAC of about .05!

So, your implication that one drink will raise your BAC to .08 is totally baseless and false.

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PM you are just wrong, and you don't know what you are talking about:

After you blow into the breathilizer and get your results, you will more than likely officially be charged with a DUI. Something you need to know though, is even though the legal limit of BAC in Ohio is .08, you can be arrested for a DUI even if you blow less than a .08. If the arresting officer believes, regardless of your BAC limit, that you were in fact driving impaired, than you will be charged with a DUI. Of course, if you are under the age of 21, ANY amount of BAC will land you a DUI and under-age consumption.


http://www.ohio-dui-lawyer.com/steps-of-arrest.html

the lawyers make alotof money on this.

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and again here:

What is an OVI/DUI? (back to top)

The Ohio Revised Code Section 4511.19 states that you may be arrested for operating or driving the vehicle while driving under the influence of alcohol (DUI), operating a vehicle while intoxicated (OVI), or operating a vehicle while under the influence, impaired, or intoxicated (OMVI). If you submit to an alcohol test, and you are over .08, then you may be arrested for a per se violation. Surprisingly, if you are under .08, you may still be arrested if you exhibited signs of being intoxicated.

http://www.novosadlaw.com/ovi.html#whatis

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the officers can decide that you are intoxicated simply because they don't like you. it becomes your word against theirs. and then it goes to court, which in MY world is already more trouble than i want,

and in YOUR world you've already made it fairly clear that the cops are honest and never lie so i'm convicted no matter what happened (in your world)

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