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i've posted previously about terrorists crossing the border, but it seems to be more frequent. like this story about a foiled plot to attack a military base in arizona.

http://oneoldvet.com/?p=3802


2 years ago i posted this story on here.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/20/151654.shtml

remember when bush said your either with us or against us? also saying that they will go after folks HARBORING terrorists? well where is the outrage to the mexican government for not stopping the cartels from harboring and aiding terrorists into america. what do they think people from the middle east smuggling SAM's into america are up to? picking fruit?
if a terrorist attack happens where the terrorists come through the mexican border i will lay the blame directly on the Bush administration for failing (or refusing) to secure the border. i cant have shampoo on a plane but 2000 miles of my country's border is wide open. what a joke.

also, check out this video. Air marshals saying that they are being instructed not to persue illegal aliens on inbound flights to america.
to say im furious is an understatement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edsDPxWoSHU

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Iran has also been "suggesting" that they have cells in place here already and at other places around the world...

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LOL
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i'm curious, what's so funny?

the idea that our borders are sieves?

or that Iran has terror cells in place around the world already?

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You really think terrorists are crossing your borders every day huh? I didn't know illegal hispanics were also terrorists... [Smile]

Iran has terror cells all around the world huh?
Where? Why are't they doing something?

Come on Glassman, don't beleive what you are feed to by your media about terrorists being everywhere...that's bull****...

How many people get killed by guns every year, how many get raped, sick child****ers everywhere, corrupt politicians, rich getting richer and poor getting poorer...and you are worried about TERRORISTS?

Now that's LOL.

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who said i'm worried?

i merely reported what Ahmadinejad intimated.

shall i find you the quote?

of course it was simply a veiled threat...

if you read a few other posts around here? you'll find that i am highly critical of the fear-mongers...

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"what do they think people from the middle east smuggling SAM's into america are up to? picking fruit? "

Gosh, thanks! I looked everywhere and couldn't find anywhere anyone would admit that the terrorist were sneaking huge military weaponry right across our borders without anyone seeing them. I needed that confirmation to bolster the argument that our president is right and we must invade Iran now before those evil she-ytes disguised as mesgin stoop laborers sneak a hydrogen mushroom maker into Indiana and launch it toward Iowa before the caucuses.

But what I can't imagine is, what are they doing wasting their time dragging in surface to air missiles when that amount of effort could get some more hydrogen mushroomers into the Country?

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so we can all relax and forget about terrorists cuz bdge and Persai say so..

whew, i'll sleep better tonight thanx guys..

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Dang right!

Now how about lets stop the Party line talking points regurgitation and get over the idea that a wetback can carry an atom bomb in his hip pocket while he's wading across the Big River of the North.

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actually if you read the report?

you'll see the FBI says the rumors of SAMS are probably just RPG's..

which any fool can operate...

if we are going to fix the terror problem? we need to be realistic about it.

anybody catch the news from Paris this morning?

77 Police Officers Hurt in Paris Riots

By ANGELA CHARLTON – 1 hour ago

VILLIERS-LE-BEL, France (AP) — Rampaging youths rioted for a second night in Paris' suburbs, firing at officers and ramming burning cars into buildings. At least 77 officers were injured, a senior police union official said Tuesday.

The overnight violence was more intense than during three weeks of rioting in 2005, said the official, Patrice Ribeiro. He said that "genuine urban guerillas with conventional weapons and hunting weapons" were among the rioters.

The riots were triggered by the deaths of two teens killed in a crash with a police patrol car on Sunday in Villiers-le-Bel, a blue-collar town in Paris' northern suburbs.

Residents claimed that officers left the crash scene without helping the teens, whose motorbike collided with the car. Officials cast doubt on the claim, but the internal police oversight agency was investigating.


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jeFc8AF_c6NJD6v25AZYeidCgg0AD8T60THG0

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Yeah, come on, now.

Promote fear.

It's the republican way.

Be enthusiastic.

The Russians are coming and the sky is falling!

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Thats some crazy chit Glass.
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Why do they even need to cross the boarders? Maybe enough already have. Or maybe there are more becoming home grown through the internet because of lack of parental guidance or just some wackos allowing themselves to be led into these crazies ways of thinking. Not only boarder crossings but what about malicious attacks through our own networks?

SPYWARE, SPAM & PHISHING
--Targeted Attacks Spoof Dept. of Justice & Better Business Bureau (November 19 & 21, 2007) There are reports that targeted email messages with malicious attachments are spreading; these messages appear to come from the US Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Better Business Bureau (BBB) and address the recipients by name. The bodies of the messages refer to complaints made against the recipients and/or their companies. The attachments accompanying the messages contain malware hidden in screensaver files.
[URL=http://bl og.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/11/a_fresh_round_of_targeted_emai.html?na v=rss_bl og][/URL]
http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/security/printfriendly.htm?AT=62034626-39000005c
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2203920/companies-warned-doj-virus

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
so we can all relax and forget about terrorists cuz bdge and Persai say so..

whew, i'll sleep better tonight thanx guys..

Actually, that's why people here in Europe are so relaxed about the issue. They don't give a s.h.i.t about terrorism. They're more worried about their jobs, beer, health or their kids...
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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Yeah, come on, now.

Promote fear.

It's the republican way.

Be enthusiastic.

The Russians are coming and the sky is falling!

Hillary's way too budge

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Yep, way too often, Hillary does that.

You and her need to stop passing around the republican talking points day after day and carrying on as if were true and they made sense.

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"They're more worried about their jobs, beer, health or their kids... "

finally, sense...

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I miss sittin with a pint of heavy at the pub. Gots to protect the beer no doubt!

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Yeah, come on, now.

Promote fear.

It's the republican way.

Be enthusiastic.

The Russians are coming and the sky is falling!

hey, budge, here's some good pre-bed-time reading for you...

i read this in it's first edition; early spring of 2000...

Biohazard by Kenneth Alibek

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Yeah, I know you read a lot. I do too, as you know. But we get our reading list from different sources with differing propaganda intent. I have a hard time accepting the themes of conspiracy that capture your interest so often.

I seldom get my notions of or about conspiracy from some book or article.....I create my own weaves and cloth from facts and data I trust.

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
I create my own weaves and cloth from facts and data I trust.

FOX? lol
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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Yeah, I know you read a lot. I do too, as you know. But we get our reading list from different sources with differing propaganda intent. I have a hard time accepting the themes of conspiracy that capture your interest so often.

I seldom get my notions of or about conspiracy from some book or article.....I create my own weaves and cloth from facts and data I trust.

the sad part for you budgee is that whenever two or more people decide to participate in a project? it's a conspiracy.....

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BTW? biohazard isn't a conspiracy theory book...

i also suppose you believe Plum Island is where Peter Pan takes Wendy to roll in the hay...

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Persia, I thought you were one that liked quoting and praising the crap Fox puts out. At least you seem to like their brand of lies over other lies. I personally find everything about Fox to range from childish to stomach turning. And believe me, it isn't easy to laugh that hard while you are tossing supper.

No, glass, it isn't me that is conjuring up big old mean Iran playing the school yard bully and terrorizing the world with nuclear bombs they ain't got and then, when it is pointed out they ain't got 'em, going on and on about your "beliefs" that let you magically know they are conspiring to blow up the christian world.

Hell, everyone with a lick of sense knows there are kooks in that country that would think nothing of starting a war, just for the devil of it and to show off their mighty muscles they believe Alla will supply them with. And yes I think they have elected one to be their president, one very much like the one we patted on the head and said good boy, go fetch us those WMDs in Iraq that he and all his republican Party first stooges knew didn't exist. But that doesn't mean that Iran will let their war monger do it, like we let our war mongers do it, particularly if we had the good sense to deal with them and stop yelling they are evil personified and a a mortal threat to the world and threatening them ten times a day so their Nut-in-Chief has those constant insults and threats to urge the people into letting him act the ass he is.

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go fetch us those WMDs in Iraq that he and all his republican Party first stooges knew didn't exist.

maybe you forgot budgee? i was one of the first to start telling people they weren't there...

took alot of crap for it...

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They weren't there? Ever? Or just by the time someone looked?

lol

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abu-graib was all about interrogation...
lots of "interrogations" were made

the "official presidential" report, which was available before the '04 election, and Kerry never used, was that Sadam had pretty much followed the UN guidelines, but lied about it out of pride and probably fear...

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"i was one of the first to start telling people they weren't there..."

True...

"took alot of crap for it..."

Yes we did!

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"They weren't there? Ever? Or just by the time someone looked?"

as far as bombs theat mushroom, yes, they were never there.

as far as nerve and bio-agents, he had destroyed those....of course, he got them from us.....

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we *know* he destroyed them? How we know this?

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This is a bit off-topic considering the current discussion but on topic for the thread...

Illegal immigrant rescues boy in desert

By TERRY TANG, Associated Press writer
Sat Nov 24, 2007

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PHOENIX - A 9-year-old boy looking for help after his mother crashed their van in the southern Arizona desert was rescued by a man entering the U.S. illegally, who stayed with him until help arrived the next day, an official said.

The 45-year-old woman, who eventually died while awaiting help, had been driving on a U.S. Forest Service road in a remote area just north of the Mexican border when she lost control of her van on a curve on Thanksgiving, Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada said.

The van vaulted into a canyon and landed 300 feet from the road, he said. The woman, from Rimrock, north of Phoenix, survived the impact but was pinned inside, Estrada said.

Her son, unhurt but disoriented, crawled out to get help and was found about two hours later by Jesus Manuel Cordova, 26, of Magdalena de Kino in the northern Mexican state of Sonora. Unable to pull the mother out, he comforted the boy while they waited for help.

The woman died a short time later.

Full Text At:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071124/ap_on_re_us/immigrant_rescuer;_ylt=AmIQirDc1 HOg1vgCBMJu6sGs0NUE

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F-ME bdgee &
Persia I LIVE REAL CLOSE TO TJ FROM MY ROOF DECK I COULD HIT IT WITH AN RPG, WITCH MEENS THEY COULD DO THE SAME, SOOOOOO F-ING EASY, WAKE UP!
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LOL, i've been by your house many times then...

it's only a couple of steps, but it's a whole 'nother world...

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same as El Paso/Juarez, I'm guessing...

at least similar

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quote:
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LOL, i've been by your house many times then...

it's only a couple of steps, but it's a whole 'nother world...

YEP GLASS, JUST WAS THERE FOR SOME MOUTH WORK, CROSS THAT LINE AND ALL YOUR RIGHTS OR GONE! [Wink]

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just because the bush admin. used fear after 911 to drop the likes of the patriot act on top of us doesnt mean the actions we have taken in the middle east hasnt created a group of real folks looking to do us harm.
i'm well aware of the scare tactics and fear mongering going on but, i happened to catch this story on the news before bed and in the morning i was thinking it would be all over the headlines but i checked nearly every news website i could find, and found it copied on some obscure website. i think the media hypes up the fake threats and buries the real ones. and this threat is real. and has been building for a while.

look here:
CIUDAD DEL ESTE, Paraguay - The Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia has taken root in South America, fostering a well-financed force of Islamist radicals boiling with hatred for the United States and ready to die to prove it, according to militia members, U.S. officials and police agencies across the continent.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17874369/

or this from 2004
Patrol agents told one Arizona newspaper that 77 males "of Middle Eastern descent" were apprehended in June in two separate incidents. All were trekking through the Chiricahua mountains and are believed to have been part of a larger group of illegal immigrants. Many were released pending immigration hearings.

released pending immigration hearings??? have you ever seen the movie "Path to Paradise" ? it details how terrorists were let loose and promised to come back to court for immigration violation, only to never show up and later bomb the WTC in 93.

The chief law enforcement officers of several Texas counties along the southern U.S. border warn that Arabic-speaking individuals are learning Spanish and integrating into Mexican culture before paying smugglers to sneak them into the United States. The Texas Sheriffs' Border Coalition believes those individuals are likely terrorists and that drug cartels and some members of the Mexican military are helping them get across the border.
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"It's clear these people are coming in for reasons other than employment," Gonzalez said.
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"These people are not paying $50,000 or more a head just to 'take jobs no American will do.'


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=/SpecialReports/archive/20060 8/SPE20060821a.html

its right under our nose, be sure and look the other way !!

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