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quote:
Originally posted by IWISHIHAD:
Tex,

Those words sure sound familiar. "You'll get paid at the end of the job" seems to be used a lot these day's.

When i was doing a little manufacturing and selling to builders, i would hear those words a few times. I did wise up a little, and started slapping a lien on the properties right away, then i had a lot more leverage.

I never did like doing that, but it seems it has become a pretty common practice in the last 20 + years.

awww, Winkie's OK... a lil shady, but OK. Speaking of liens? The restaurant we just did will prolly be facing liens, pretty soon. Nowadays, you don't sign the waiver till everything's paid...

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Yes, a lot can be done with hemp other than blowing it or eating it.

Many of those same usages can be done with cotton stalks, too. She is gone now, but Sara Mayfield, The Queen of Dauphin Island, who was both a close and intellectual friend, held patents for a great many of those uses, which were effectively dead because of the laws against maryijuana.

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yea. why is Libby not in jail and ummmm.....that other guy that lied under oath..what was his name....oh Bill Clinton. He broke the law also.
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Pardon Paris Hilton!! [Razz]

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Well, for one thing, andi, if you paid attention, Bill Clinton was never involved in any criminal proceeding wherin he lied to a grandjury, was never charged with a crime, was never taken before a criminal proceeding (since he was not in violation of any criminal act...certainly not an act amounting to treason, like Libby), was mever convicted by a jury (or the Senate).

There is a serious question as to whether of not Clinton broke the law or that any law was properly instituted that would make the question he answered even legal to ask. He chose to accept a questionable decision by a judge that had already violated the law in allowing a secret criminal investigation to intercede in a civil matter. Such decisions are made by thousands, othert than Clinton, every day, when it becomes obvious that proving your position is going to be financially exhausting.

Libby was charged as a criminal, tried, and convicted!

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quote:
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Originally posted by Hannibull:
why do they put people in jail for possessing marijuana?

Because they broke the law.

Munchkin Man

What is the essence of putting someone behind bars? because they're a danger to society right? So how are pot smokers a danger to society? Pot smokers can barely do ANYthing while high [Big Grin]

Also, interesting read Glassman

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quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
But if you possess cigarettes or alcohol it's okay....Insane!!!!!

Pot makes people giggle like school girls, alcohol makes husbands beat up their wives, the latter is DEFINITELY more acceptable than the former [Roll Eyes]
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quote:
Originally posted by andrew:
yea. why is Libby not in jail and ummmm.....that other guy that lied under oath..what was his name....oh Bill Clinton. He broke the law also.

check this chit out Andrew, i still say the Clintons and the Bushes are really in the same political party no matter what they call themselves:
(note the date carefully)

GOP lawyer: Facts 'misconstrued' in Rich case
Lewis Libby
Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff

March 2, 2001
Web posted at: 3:15 a.m. EST (0815 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff testified Thursday he believes prosecutors of billionaire financier Marc Rich "misconstrued the facts and the law" when they went after Rich on tax evasion charges.

The testimony from Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who represented Rich dating back to 1985 but stopped working for him in the spring of 2000, came during a contentious, hours-long House committee hearing into former President Bill Clinton's eleventh-hour pardons.

Earlier in the day, three former White House advisers all said they recommended that the Rich pardon be denied, but that they supported Clinton's decision-making process.

Facing intense questioning from Rep. Paul Kanjorski, D-Pennsylvania, Libby hedged on whether he thought Clinton's pardon was justified, infuriating the congressman.

"Did you represent a crook who stole money from the United States government, was a fugitive and should never have been given or granted a pardon by the facts that you know?" snapped Kanjorski.

"No, sir," Libby responded. "There are no facts that I know of that support the criminality of the client based on the tax returns."

Libby then said prosecutors from the Southern District of New York "misconstrued the facts and the law" when they prosecuted Rich.

"(Rich) had not violated the tax laws," said Libby.

At a later point, Libby said he thought Rich was a traitor for his company engaging in trades with Iran at a time when that country was holding U.S. hostages. "I did not condone it, I didn't advise it, I don't admire it," he said.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/03/02/clinton.library/


there's more too...


House panel opens new hearings into Clinton pardons

March 1, 2001
Web posted at: 12:32 p.m. EST (1732 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A House panel has opened a new round of hearings this afternoon into former President Bill Clinton's controversial late-term pardons, a day after reaching an agreement with Clinton's lawyer on viewing a list of donors to Clinton's library foundation.
The committee subpoenaed the three aides in its widening investigation of possible influence peddling or links between campaign donations and the pardon of Rich and others on Clinton's last day in office. Marc Rich's ex-wife Denise gave more than $1 million to Democratic causes and $450,000 to the Clinton librar



i think this controversey will be going on for quite awhile...

even more interesting ??? Giulianni was the prosecutor after Rich...

we have all the same players arguing all the time..
it's time for change... past time ...

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nice find.
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Bush critisized Clinton and then went on to say:

Bush criticizes Clinton's pardon of fugitive financier

January 29, 2001
Web posted at: 6:34 p.m. EST (2334 GMT)

"I am troubled by the decision the president made," Bush told reporters during a brief question-and-answer session in the Oval Office. "I would not have made that decision, but nevertheless he was the president. He had the right to do so, to make that decision, and he did."

At the same time, Bush stressed Clinton had the constitutional authority to issue the pardon, and he suggested he would not approve of any changes to that executive privilege.

"I'm going to protect that privilege, not only for me, but for future presidents as well," Bush said.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/29/bush.pardon/index.html

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quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
quote:
Originally posted by Munchkin Man:
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Originally posted by Hannibull:
why do they put people in jail for possessing marijuana?

Because they broke the law.

Munchkin Man

What is the essence of putting someone behind bars? because they're a danger to society right? So how are pot smokers a danger to society? Pot smokers can barely do ANYthing while high [Big Grin]

Also, interesting read Glassman

ya...is why I said what I did about the stronger pot they got nowadays and driving... I used to enjoy a lil buzz myself, but you could do stuff and *really* get into it, lol... But these hydro ruderales strains that have been developed...jeez, that chit body slams you into the couch...or whatever's nearby...

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