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I just think there far too many insignificant smaller (microscopic at times) species that dont even seem viable in the grand scheme of things to make the design argument possible.
I still think we're some sorta alien bee colony, and they need us to produce ummmmm errrrrr uhhhhh CO 2
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soooo.. since iran claims they need nuclear power and we think they are making bombs, doesnt the whole "they dont need nuclear energy they sit on billions of barrels of oil" arguement kinda go out the window in light of this newfound information about rationing out gas? This is a legit question, i really dont know, i thought they had the energy problem covered. maybe they really do need nuclear energy for the future?
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Well you have a good point and Iran most likley will build a boomb we can't stop that it is going to happen all over the world.
Anyway why would they listen to us we have them and have used them,plus we use atomic weapons as barganing chips.
And I would say that Mr. Bush is the type of person that would use them.
IMHO the only hope for humanity is to get rid of them all some how.
The person or groupe that is salesman enough for that job would be the hereo of the world
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: I see. So an elephant is divine.....and a seagull?
I think it more nearly correct to say divinity suggest "abnormal" (and maybe unrestricted) power, while Einstein insisted that nature had restrictions and its powers were quite normal if properly viewed and understood, which he believed was withing human ability.
Hey.. Jonathan Livingston Seagull was divine...
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quote:Originally posted by turbokid: in a kinda follow up to my large post earlier.
i want to point out that the world bank has ok'ed Robert Zoellick as president replacing Paul wolfowitz. now you will remember that Wolfowitz was included in the PNAC tribe of neocon war hawks and as United States Deputy Secretary of Defense during the George W. Bush Administration, he was "a major architect of President Bush's Iraq war policy and, within the Administration, its most passionate and compelling advocate." On June 1, 2005 he was appointed president of the World Bank Group, but resigned on May 17, 2007 (effective June 30, 2007), as a result of an investigation by its board of executive directors, which accepted his resignation, "ending a protracted and tumultuous battle over his stewardship, sparked by a promotion he arranged for his companion."
And after a quick search i found that Zoellick is also a signer of the PNAC. " Zoellick signed the January 26, 1998 letter to President Bill Clinton from PNAC that advocated war against Iraq" and he is a member of CSIS The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is a Washington, D.C.-based foreign policy think tank (oh good, more of these foreign policy "think tank" guys.) For 2005, CSIS had an operating budget of $27.2 million, 85 percent of which is funded from corporate, foundation and individual contributions: a large amount comes from conservative foundations and defense contractors "CSIS has generally had a right-wing, neoconservative tilt in its studies and reports"
meh.. not sure where im going with this... but it is interesting.
to add to this (even though there are about 5 different coversations going on in this thread, lol) Our boy wolfowitz has now joined the AEI (another think tank) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19551763/ Some quick facts about AEI. they rent office space to PNAC (and share several members), in 2007 they offered money to scientists to undermine the IPCC's study on global warming and have recieved $1,600,000 in donations from exxonmobile. and also get big bucks from Gulf oil and Koch Industries, another oil company.. hmm mildly interesting.
some members include: Michael ladeen. one of the most hawkish of the hawks, he was involved the iran-contra affair, he has called for "regime change beyond Iraq" and believes that it is also "time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.' research this punk he sucks. Lynn Cheney.. Dick cheneys wife Richard Perle. you already know about this jerkoff Lee Raymond. CEO of exxonmobil John Bolton. he was nominated by bush and the senate refused him, then bush put him through anyways (kinda like libby) he signed the PNAC letter to clinton supporting iraq regime change. He was also involved in iran-contra and is a member of JINSA Frederick Kagan, he was the author of the "surge plan" you know, the one bush adopted. He was a signatory to the January 28, 2005, PNAC letter to Congress calling for "Increasing U.S. Ground Forces" in Iraq. He was also a signatory to a September 20, 2001, "open letter" in which the PNAC urged President Bush "that the war on terrorism include the removal of Iraqi president Saddam Hussain "even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the [ 9/11 ] attack." Dick Cheney. no info needed Kenneth Lay the "former Enron chief executive and chairman convicted of fraud and conspiracy charges" on May 25, 2006 he has since died.
George Shultz is former President and current Board member of the Bechtel Group, Inc.., and former Chairman of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. In these roles he has been both an outspoken proponent of the Iraq invasion, and a hefty beneficiary of the reconstruction process. Shultz has been called the father of the Bush Doctrine, because of his advocacy of Preventive war. He generally defends the neoconservatism of the Bush administration. He was a member of the board of directors of Gilead Sciences from January 1996 to December 2005. Gilead owns the rights to tamiflu ("In November 2005, George W. Bush urged Congress to pass $7.1 billion in emergency funding to prepare for the possible bird flu pandemic") He was also involved in takeing the US off the gold standard. All upstanding citizens to be sure..
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well, at the very least zionists. theres a difference between joe weinstein the local jewish retail store owner, and shlomo silvergoldstein the zionist arab killing war hawk. lol
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July 03, 2007 The Associated Press The New York Post
TEHRAN -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has rejected a proposal by Oliver Stone to make a film about him because the Oscar-winning director is part of the "great Satan" cultural establishment, a news agency reported.
"I sent a negative answer by Ahmadinejad to Oliver Stone," the Fars agency quoted Mehdi Kalhor, media adviser to the president, as saying. "It is right that this person is considered part of the opposition in the U.S., but opposition in the U.S. is a part of the great Satan."
Stone replied, in a statement issued yesterday, "I have been called a lot of things, but never a great Satan. I wish the Iranian people well, and only hope their experience with an inept, rigid ideologue president goes better than ours." Stone has long been critical of President Bush. Last year in Spain, he said he was "ashamed" of his country.
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Expecting Oliver Stone to make sense is like expecting him to make movies that don't obliterate fact.
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Yeep, the movie would be Nr 1 Box Office in the muslim world for generations to come... Posts: 1364 | From: Somebody from Europe | Registered: Sep 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Persia: "I sent a negative answer by Ahmadinejad to Oliver Stone," the Fars agency quoted Mehdi Kalhor, media adviser to the president, as saying. "It is right that this person is considered part of the opposition in the U.S., but opposition in the U.S. is a part of the great Satan."
What about Admadinejad's other sympathizers here in the US? Are they a part of the "Great Satan" too?
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