Your first post on any subject is to attack and insult and condem someone or some group. You attack first, generally with an argument based on bigotry and lies. Subsequent post are a long line of hate and name calling and labeling and "contrived" but ficticious claims to discredit whomever you are attacking at the time.
Good, it would have been nice of you not to have posted your first in this thread, which was a hate filled attack on a person you don't like. You might then have gone on to say "you believed" certain things, but no, you declared thenm to be absolute truths and you have admitted you have no information to establish that. That amountds to hateful willing slander.
It would be one thing had you said you don't like or approve of Jane Fonda, but you had to address your silly and childish obsession with communism, by planting lies.
Lies you don't even have the courage to take the blame for. You blame it on others and claim that their saying it makes it true, refusing to even investigate further. Jane Fonda never mad trhe statements you attribute to her, at least no within any context you are familiar with.
Your sickness and hatred of things you don't understand amounts to deep deep bigotry.
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So Idealistic that it doesn't work in the real world. We know that now. But 36 years ago? The fight over communism had different motivations and connotations. Remember McCarthy's list?
When tensions are high positions tend to become polarized.
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Jane did what she did for Jane and nobody else. She was in Hollywood because of her dad and i doubt she would have made it on her own. Her actions went way beyond war protests and she could have cared less who it affected. She has been on many talk shows over the years and up untill recently she had never cared what she did. Maybe now that she has a new movie coming out she figures it will help her box office numbers. Like The bumper sticker says: Vietnam Veterans are not Fonda Jane.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: i don't care if she is a commie... she's HOT!
lol...
"kinda" what I was thinking... who was it in-thread said she was a fox? NR? ya, boy...no Ann-Margret, but plenty of wow-factor. I dunno about adressing eroticism now, though...could be great, could be ewwww-weee...
Also, Beedge mentioned not knowing any real commies...boy, howdy, I knew one...in of all places, Little Rock, at UALR. He was strident and off-putting in his fervor (as many college kids tend to be), but I grew to have great affection for him...articulate, well read...and that boy HATED HIM SOME KKK! lol, he would take a bat to a KKK demo...and wade right in. Have no idea if he wound up getting killed or sent up or what...but he sure drew a line in the dirt for what he believed...
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Tex, I didn't say I had never known a true communist, I said NR hadn't and was blowin it out his .....
Every college campus has at least one super avid communist, usually several, (and at least one socialist that isn't a communist and some jesus freaks and athiest and Nazis and folks that believe they are aliens and some morons and idiots ....... and all-in-all they don't hurt a darn thing, make the experience of education far more encompassing and richer and more valuable)) and they are indeed admirable in their zeal for equality and fairness.
Even in the heyday of the communist hunts of the 50sand 60s, anti-communism as a conviction was pretty much confined to the same red-neck crowds that cherished segregation and antiSemitism and denying rights to women. Not exactly a generous or intellectual coterie to have to deal with or suffer.
I'm sorry to have to report that, even today, ant-JaneFondaism is alive and well. It is most most rampant amongs that same cadre of groups.
Like a poison gas, their kind tends to collect together in low places so they cohabit amongst only their own kind and have experience otherwise and, thus, no concept or knowledge that the great majority of us do not dwell on any or all of the following:
1) what Jane Fonda did in the time of the First Great American War That Had No End and That Could Never Be Won.
2) discriminating agaainst Jews.
3) discriminating against women.
40 discriminating agains blacks.
5) eagerly misrinterpretating the Constitution, wherby, the term "the people" is replaces by "citizens", thus making it seem patriotic and Christian to discriminate against Jews and women, and Mexicans and Japaneese and Viet Namese and non-Christians and non-members of the Chamber of Commerce oR the Elk Club or the Shriners or The downtown Loins club ........
6) spreading the false idea that the Constitution was written as a Christian anchor for the United States of America, so that it would be acceptable to discriminate against any non-Christian and asserting that the Constitution not only recognises Christianity as a necessary part of the America, but also that the Government is bound to enforce a requirement that Christian doctrin and customs can be forced on others.
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was more or less reacting to the idea that probably lottsa folks never known a real commie; and by way of addendum, in corollary agreement with your portrait of "youth," I must add that my young friend may not have experienced misadventure at all, and in fact may today be a thriving Republicrat...perhaps an MM, lol, with a Hummer and 2.7 kids in Westchester. Such is youth...
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Every college campus has at least one super avid communist, usually several, (and at least one socialist that isn't a communist and some jesus freaks and athiest and Nazis and folks that believe they are aliens and some morons and idiots ....... and all-in-all they don't hurt a darn thing, make the experience of education far more encompassing and richer and more valuable)) and they are indeed admirable in their zeal for equality and fairness
hey bdgeee, you haven't been keeping up with the times...
all "those" now just play World of Warcraft on the intenet...
they are fighting or becoming night elves, dwarves gnomes, orcs, troll s and blood elves, etc...
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quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: As for the infamous photo of her on the anti-aircraft battery, Fonda said she understood that she had made a mistake within seconds.
"We were all standing around and someone said to sit here and I moved two steps and sat down. As soon as I got up and started walking away, I realized how it must have looked and said to my interpreter: "Oh my God, please destroy that film."
Well thats what happens when you conspire with the enemy...WHAT A DOPE!...I dont care how passionate you are about a particular movement. If youre dumb enough to take photo opps with the "opposing team" well then I guess your playing for them.....or with....
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I personally think that unusual means may be necessary to bring the attention of the American people to the impropriety of the unwinnable wars in Viet Nam and Iraq.
It is anythiung but inappropriate to work to let the people learn how insane it is to back a dishonest Administration waging such a war, particularly when it is the war in Iraq, which was only allowed by the people and Congress due to a string of viscious lies by the Administration that we now know were lies. (The war in Viet Nam was continually justified by lies about the reasons for being there, the reasons for staying there, the reasons for not leaving, and the actual and neaar totaal failures of the military in that war.)
Indeed, to assail a person for recognizing their responsibility of being an American citizen and for exercising their Constitutional rights to speak against a war is unpatriotic and shameful.
We should be proud of our country men and women that have the honor and guts to stand up against the massive flow of propagana that comes out of the Pentagon and the Administration. Doing so is quintessential America and attacking it or those the dare to do it is very anti-american.
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Quote Bdgee: (The war in Viet Nam was continually justified by lies about the reasons for being there, the reasons for staying there, the reasons for not leaving, and the actual and neaar totaal failures of the military in that war.) _________________________________________________
I do not think the military failed.(weapons, soldiers) The tactics that we used could not win that war, but many of the fights were won, speaking militarily.
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I do think the military failed. They refused to recognize that it was a hopelessly unwinnable war and they are still professing disagreement with that fact, spending millions of my dollars every year to train youn cadets to believe that lie.
We are now fighting another unwinnable war and the military once again is claiming it is winnable but isn't being won only due to interferrence by the the civilian leadership of the Country. It would not be winable whatever influence or lack of influence from whatever source, simply because it isn't.
You keep making the mistake of tossing in the soldiers and flyers and sailers with the mistakes and wrong decisions and wanting to believe that since, in general, those groups and individuals fight their hearts and soles out that they are "the Military", They are not. They are only the fodder of the military...they do not make decisions or issue tactical or strategic orders or even evaluate the situation.
The American people (Jane Fonda too if you would get passed your prejudice and bother to listen) does not now and did not in Viet Nam blame the soldiers and sailors and flyers The American people blame now and blamed then the Pentagon and the Administration for putting those others of our people in harms way when they could only be party to a loss and could only be involved in upseting the equilibriums of world politics.
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You and Jane forget that the soldiers are the military. Of course like always you tend to forget what you want, like Jane. Just like Vietnam was started by Eisenhower and then there was Nixon and of course Kennedy and Johnson were just innocent bystanders, not worth mentioning as far as the Vietnam War.
As far as prejudice toward Jane, any jerk that stands up in Hanoi and speaks what came out of her mouth (while we were over fighting a war and the POWs not too far from where she was speaking) deserves what she has gotten over the years. Go try and convince someone else that your interpretation is correct. I heard her junk, right out of her mouth, and your versions don't cut it.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: The American people (Jane Fonda too if you would get passed your prejudice and bother to listen) does not now and did not in Viet Nam blame the soldiers and sailors and flyers The American people blame now and blamed then the Pentagon and the Administration for putting those others of our people in harms way when they could only be party to a loss and could only be involved in upseting the equilibriums of world politics.
So judging by these photos youre saying it would be ok (hypothetically speakingof course) If the Dixie chicks went on a USO tour for insurgents?
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No me and Jane didn't forget any such thing, because it isn't true and because you have no idea what I know or don't know ( do not agree with her technique). You blurt out artificial arrogant bigotry and hate. Of course, like always, you tend to believe whatever your structured prejudice tells you to, so, probably, it isn't really your fault.
Viet Name was started by the French Empire and the U.S. became involved when Eisenhower came to the aid of de Gaulle, years before either Kennedy or Johnson even knew there were U.S. troops there fighting on the side of South Viet Nam (but Nixon, Eisenhower's VP, knew from the start).
In your bigotry and hatred, you smear and insult the Constitution by spewing hatred toward people that honor and respect it by acting according to its guarantees.
When you oppose anyone that is exercising his or her constitutional right to free speach for doing exactly that and holler that they, in doing so are un-American, then it is you that is being un-american.
It is one thing to declare your disagreement with them, but you are declaring they had no right to disagree with you and to exercise their Constitutional right. You were brain washed by the Pentagon and you and your kind, acting as they wished, are attempting to punish people for using their rights.
That is anti-Constitutional and undermines its most basic tenets, i.e., though you have every right to your opinion and to disagree with other opinions, by comdeming another for their exercise of a righ guaranteed in the Copnstitution, you are the ones that are anti-American and you should be ashamed.
You hear whatever the Pentagon and the RNC propagana bought and paid you to learn to hear. I cost us billions to brain wash you.
You need to get over your unpatrioitic hatred and stop fighting a lost war ..... and stop supporting this lost war.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: The American people (Jane Fonda too if you would get passed your prejudice and bother to listen) does not now and did not in Viet Nam blame the soldiers and sailors and flyers The American people blame now and blamed then the Pentagon and the Administration for putting those others of our people in harms way when they could only be party to a loss and could only be involved in upseting the equilibriums of world politics.
So judging by these photos youre saying it would be ok (hypothetically speakingof course) If the Dixie chicks went on a USO tour for insurgents?
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: The American people (Jane Fonda too if you would get passed your prejudice and bother to listen) does not now and did not in Viet Nam blame the soldiers and sailors and flyers The American people blame now and blamed then the Pentagon and the Administration for putting those others of our people in harms way when they could only be party to a loss and could only be involved in upseting the equilibriums of world politics.
So judging by these photos youre saying it would be ok (hypothetically speakingof course) If the Dixie chicks went on a USO tour for insurgents?
You continue to make the mistake you always have in assuming you have the right or the ability to declare what I think.
You have never been right in the past, so it is to my infinite surprise, that you are wrong again. I really though you would learn.
I personally think the Dixie chicks are not only beautiful in body, but in mind and politic too. I once only enjoyed their music, now I admire their partiotism.
I once enjoyed the humor of Dennis Miller, but I can't stomach his anti-american fascism anymore.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: The American people (Jane Fonda too if you would get passed your prejudice and bother to listen) does not now and did not in Viet Nam blame the soldiers and sailors and flyers The American people blame now and blamed then the Pentagon and the Administration for putting those others of our people in harms way when they could only be party to a loss and could only be involved in upseting the equilibriums of world politics.
So judging by these photos youre saying it would be ok (hypothetically speakingof course) If the Dixie chicks went on a USO tour for insurgents?
You continue to make the mistake you always have in assuming you have the right or the ability to declare what I think.
You have never been right in the past, so it is to my infinite surprise, that you are wrong again. I really though you would learn.
I personally think the Dixie chicks are not only beautiful in body, but in mind and politic too. I once only enjoyed their music, now I admire their partiotism.
I once enjoyed the humor of Dennis Miller, but I can't stomach his anti-american fascism anymore.
Once again... i was "hypothetically speaking" and fail to see how her commiserating with the North helped the soldiers...
On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism. "
Did she or she she not make these statements? Do you agree with these statements?
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Gee bdgee never knew the French were in Vietnam. Thought we were talking about the United States involvement, not the French. I never saw a french mansion or rubber trees. Bdgee our military is made up of the Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, and Coast Guard, i am not sure what military you are talking about. A few soldiers and a few civilians make the decisions for a lot, but they still are all our military. Jane exercised her right to free speech and so have a lot of other people, you and her do not seem to like that. It seems to be only free speech when you and her speak, anyone else is a bigot or some of those other names you dig up and she uses. You are getting back to your name calling again. President Kennedy and Johnson were just in office to do what President Eisenhower told them. It was their obligation to keep building up the troops because Eisenhower had sent a few troops in and they had no power to do anything about it. Yea Right.
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Vietnam POW's Interesting View on Jane FondaThought you might appreciate this mans views. Unfortunately, too many of our servicemen can recount similar circumstances. They all cannot be wrong. How quickly the American public forgets.
To whom it may concern:
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in 1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My north Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At on time, I was I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals." When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POW'S were receiving, which was far different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the POW's were lying about our torture and treatment. Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor Jane Fonda in her Feature "100 Years of Great Women." Shame, shame on Jane Fonda! Shame, shame on Barbara Walters! Shame, shame on 20-20. Shame, shame on ABC. And , shame, shame on the Disney Company. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind controlled by her husband. This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as "100 Years of Great Women." After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the anti-war movement. I said that I held Joan Baez's husband in very high regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to prison in protest. If the other anti-war protestors took this same route, it would have brought our judicial system to a halt and ended the war much earlier, and there wouldn't be as many on that somber black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial. This is democracy. This is the American way. Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform, propagandized for the communists, and urged American soldiers to desert. As we were being tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she called us liars. After her hero's - the North Vietnamese communists - took over South Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000 South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their souls rest on her head forever. Shame! Shame!
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I really don't care why you are a narrow minded. You eagerly admit to it.
Is it ok to be a bigot because you believe in your cause? I have known several members of the KKK and each and every one of them absolutely believed in what they professed and absolutely refused to accept any other consideration, just as you do about Viet nam. They too claimed they had a right to trash the name and reputation of anyone opposed to their views. They too are bogots, no matter how fervantly they believe in their cause.
If you were a POW, I am sorry, but that DOES NOT AWARD to you a privilege of denegrating the Constitution by attacking those that exercise their Constitutional right for exercising thaat right.
It is sad and unfortunate that you were mistreated as a prisoner, but it is just as sad and even more unfortunate that North Vieet Namese and their supporters were subjected to torture and death at the hands of our military, which is not supposed to participate in that sort of thing. There IS NO EXCUES FOR THAT, even attempts to justify it by ballanceing it with the suffering you experienced is out of line.
We had no good reason to be in Viet Nam and having been among those that were assigned there by the Pentagon does not grant you special rights to hate and attack those who were not or who point out that we were wrong in that war, (any more than having been raised to believe that blacks and whites must be separated justiufies racil hatred, be that hatred toward black or white).
You are presenting an argument and demanding I and otherds allow it to you that exactly parallels that of any other bogot, but in your case, just against those that didn't get sent to Viet Nam rather than those of a different religion or race or nationality or whatever.
I believe I and the majority of the people are tired of being forced to hear constantly your hate and bias.
I point to this further correction of another falshood of your bigoted hatred. I have NOT at any time claimed that Kennedy or Johnson was free of guilt in the Viet Nam War, but I have, correctly pointed out that your blaming them entirely, is way off base. They followed the lead of Eisenhower and Nixon in supporting the north vietnamese. It was Eisenhower and Nixon who made the initiol committment of troops to Viet Nam.
Here is another: I volunteered for service in the to be sent to S.E., Asia during the Eisenhower administration. I did not go there because of decisions in the Pentagon. It was not my decision and for many years after I was incensed that I was denied that opportunity. So get off that holier than thou BS! Did you volunteer or just end up there without trying?
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No bdgee i was not a POW. I do feel bad that those that were and of course how they were awarded their right to that Geneva Convention you like to speak of. You sure make up things as you go, fill in the blanks. You and your free speech and your interpretation of the constitution. Again my statement was, I do not think the military failed.(weapons, soldiers) The tactics that we used could not win that war, but many of the fights were won, speaking Militarily. Then you seem to have went into your free speech game.
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There were no taxctics that would have made the U.S. able to win in Viet Nam, short of promissing (and proceding to follow up on that promise) to completely wipe out the entire population.
The facts I point out just don't happen to parallel your biases.
You do not bother to note that the interpretations I give to the Constitution are those traditionally placed there by the Courts. They are not "my interpretations of the Constitution" and different from the norm, as you so eagerly imply, they are ours, they are "the law", and they were determined by the Courts.
The military did fail in Viet Nam and your desire, however well meant, of insisting on a lack of failure and wanting to equate success there with a lack of ill intent of individual soldiers or their valient efforts by succeding in some isolated fights does not erase the fact. (In most cases, even the Pentagon and the Administration did not have any ill intent in its faulty efforts and interpretations of the war in Viet Nam, but then, the KKK thinks there is no ill intent in their desires for others. Of course, even today, there are places where, if put to a vote, the agenda of the Klan would prevail. Do you believe them to be right?)
THERE IS NO DISRESPECT OF THE SERVICE MEN THAT SERVED IN VIET NAM WHEN IT IS POINTED OUT THAT VIET NAM WAS WAS WRONG AND THE MILITARY FAILED IN REFUSING TO ACCEPT IT WAS AN UNWINNABLE WAR.
There is a lot of disrespect in refusing to allow others to have a different opinion than yours and calling or inferring shame or lack of patriotism on their behalf because you disagree with them.
No tactics could have won that war, because it was an invasion into the heridatary territories of a native and well established people. All such a people need to win is to not loose and they do not loose by refusing to concede. That is a thouroghly acceptd and understood and well tested war strategy.
You certainly do have the right to your opinion, but when that opinion is used as a basis to declare a falshood a fact and to belittle people that were not similarly biased and had the courage and honor to speak up and try to stop the absurd excesses of the Pentagon and the Administration, that goes a bit too far beyond being just an opinion (which you have a right to)and acting as an un-American instigator of denial if the rights granted by the Constitution.
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Quote Bdgee: THERE IS NO DISRESPECT OF THE SERVICE MEN THAT SERVED IN VIET NAM WHEN IT IS POINTED OUT THAT VIET NAM WAS WAS WRONG AND THE MILITARY FAILED IN REFUSING TO ACCEPT IT WAS AN UNWINNABLE WAR. _________________________________________________ So it appears by what you say that if this is not pointed out, that there is disrespect to Vietnam Veterans by you. Of course knowing who said it probably would not bother to many if any. Your interpretation of the constitution is what ever way you want to twist the law. You will you use the basic law and then state your interpretation using the law. Of course i do not have to explain this, many others have pointed this out in the past. One minute you tell me how wrong President Eisenhower and Nixon were to send advisors into Vietnam and how you knew this, but then next you say you volunteered to go but somehow they would not let you go to Vietnam, you cannot make up your mind. Then you go on to try and criticize me for not volunteering, which i had to laugh about, no bdgee i did not volunteer i went without trying. As far as battles in Vietnam, we won many more than we lost. (Took the ground that the enemy had) but we gave it back ,to take it again, not just isolated battles like you try and convince people of. Not that it really made any differance at that time or in the end. As far as what might have been done to change the course in Vietnam, who knows, we could only fight one way. I am not sure what we would do with it in the end if we would have won the war, because as soon as We are ready, we will open up Vietnam just like China, and pay big bucks for all that Agent Orange we sprayed over there, but not till a lot more Vietnam Vets are dead. Vietnam is another China waiting to happen and the imports will flock into the US. You sure know a lot about the KKK and what they do. Were you not a big supporter of George Wallace, in fact didn't you work on his campaign commitee? Again what Jane did in Hanoi went way beyond protesting, it appears that her actions caused physical harm to POWs which has been documented by many POWs.
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You can't keep from being a pain. What your bias demands is that no one but you and the Klan and the RNC have any right to any opinion or any right to not march in lock step to the opinions of those.
You don't respect anything or anybody that doesn't wail far right extremism and hate.
What you demand goes way beyond differing in opinion, it appears that you profess actions to cause harm, even physical, to those that don't accept your manic drive to punish people you can't or won't understand and won't allow to have opinions different from your's.
You are driven by bias and hatrred.
Any respect for Viet Namese veterans has been wasted by you and your kind's insane drive to punish and destroy and silence.
"One minute you tell me how wrong President Eisenhower and Nixon were to send advisors into Vietnam and how you knew this, but then next you say you volunteered to go but somehow they would not let you go to Vietnam, you cannot make up your mind."
hahahahaha
If that is somehow contradictory to you, then you really are too simple minded to have any chance of being other than a bigot. Some of the guys I grew up with did go and never came back. Some others, like me were never sent, though they, like me, asked to go (and do what we were led to believe was in the cause of freedom) well before Kennedy was ever elected or even running. (There seems to be some question as to whether you ever took the effort, at any time, to request assignment in Viet Nam, during any administration. Maybe you sent were there without ever having requested to go there, as was the case wint most who went. Or were you "serving" with dubya in Dothan, perhaps, instead?)
I did not EVER say I knew they were wrong at that time. You need to stop spreading falshoods.
You silly complainer! Grow up. I've lost friends and relatives in wars all the way back tthrough the revolutions of two nations and I feel the loss of every one of them, even some that were on a side I would not have chosen.
War is not something one ever forgets or recovers from, completely. One learns about himself. It changes a person. But whatever side one is on in a war, only a fool CHOOSES to continue to hate long after the war is done.
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I've read your responses, criticisms, arrogance, name-calling, incessant hysteria, and downright mean spirited, hate filled responses to anyone voicing any opinion that conflicts with yours.
Call me what you will (and I know you will) but you sound like nothing more than an angry old coot with an axe to grind with the world for not seeing things your way, the only way, the right way, the one clear and constitutionally correct way.
You fail to actually "hear" what others are saying but rather misinterpret, twist, or incorrectly define what other are really saying to provide yourself with a reason to be nothing more than insulting. You seem to purposely (and I'm giving you credit for intelligence here) not get their point, whether you agree with it or not. I don't know whether you can't get their point because of your own blind rage or you just don't get their point. You seem to have an ability to block any meaningful discussions about anything by anyone with your unending hateful hysterical diatribes.
You're not the only one with opinions, perspectives on events or experiences that form those opinions and perspectives.
It is my impression from reading your posts that you spit on the constitution every time you open your mouth and disrespect someone else's opinion.
I find your posts to be getting more and more aggressive, censorious (which constitutionally you pretend to loath), and offensive.
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It is certainly not surprising that you would choose to not understand my position, as you have on several occasions spoken for preventing opinions differing from yours.
I loath your narrow mindedness and arbitrainess and fascism.
But having such opinions is your right. Pointing out those un-American attitudes and tendencies is my right and is the American way, in spite of your wanting that to not be true.
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