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Shame of it is....like I said earlier. if we didnt "blow our load" (so to speak) in Iraq. Ashamedennnneeen might not have even popped up in fear of Saddam......and if he did...they would have duked it out themselves
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If I rob a bank, and then tell you it's wrong to rob a bank when I see you getting ready to do the same thing, does that mean I'm wrong, and it's ok to rob a bank?
No, I might be a hippocrate and you probably won't listen to me because I don't lead by example, but I'm still right....
Same thing with WMD's... Sure we are hypocrites, and should change that if we expect people to take us seriously, but we are STILL RIGHT....
IMO, we should work on getting rid of our own WMD's, but at the same time make sure that nobody else is making them.....
If the goal is zero nuclear weapons on this Earth, then standing around doing nothing while another nation creates them is not a good way of achieving that goal.
You see what I'm getting at?
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: its ok for us to have wmd..right??
Well unfortunatly we harnessed the power under a severe amount of destress. And I think its safe to safe most of US regret it.... thats the difference....these guys have a parade when they aquire them.
I think we consider ourselves responsible...
reminds me of an article I was reading about a pakistani who went to japan for a hiroshima anniversary...he said soemthing along the lines " our country has no clue what these things are capable of doing"
does that answer question jordo?
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Originally posted by jordanreed: its ok for us to have wmd..right?? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well unfortunatly we harnessed the power under a severe amount of destress. And I think its safe to say most of US regret it.... thats the difference....these guys have a parade when they aquire them.
I think we consider ourselves responsible...
reminds me of an article I was reading about a pakistani who went to japan for a hiroshima anniversary...he said soemthing along the lines " our country has no clue what these things are capable of doing"
does that answer question jordo?
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: i think nr is right...it is not right for us to have them. we should disarm and lead by example. what do you think would happen?..
I think at this point we would have the living crap bombed out of US....thats what I think
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: i think nr is right...it is not right for us to have them. we should disarm and lead by example. what do you think would happen?..
I think at this point we would have the living crap bombed out of US....thats what I think
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I am all for giving up nuclear weapons, but it is hard to present that as a realistic solution when there are some that would probably never give them up, even if we did give up ours in an attempt to lead by example....
The way I see it, the major nuclear powers of the world are stuck in a "mexican standoff"... I do not know if the "lead by example" solution will work, but I do know that adding more "guns" and "players", if you will, to this standoff is not the solution, and will only make the matter more complicated and more dangerous.
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: i think nr is right...it is not right for us to have them. we should disarm and lead by example. what do you think would happen?..
I think at this point we would have the living crap bombed out of US....thats what I think
Is your crap alive?
Straaaaaaannnnge......
Maybe you should write a horrow flick.
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quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: I am all for giving up nuclear weapons, but it is hard to present that as a realistic solution when there are some that would probably never give them up, even if we did give up ours in an attempt to lead by example....
The way I see it, the major nuclear powers of the world are stuck in a "mexican standoff"... I do not know if the "lead by example" solution will work, but I do know that adding more "guns" and "players", if you will, to this standoff is not the solution, and will only make the matter more complicated and more dangerous.
I think we should try viewing it from a different angle..... we should start looking into a defense weapon that makes uranium reach its shelf life instantly. I think the orignal design calls for 20-25 years. It would be nice if another Einstein came along and figured out how to render these things obsolete....
Uranium is the main heavy metal used in a weapon's "rad case" to redirect the x-ray radiation produced by the weapon's fission primary. It is also sometimes used in other weapon parts.
Uranium and its alloys age in several ways. Like steel, pure uranium "rusts" when exposed to the oxygen in air. It is also corroded by hydrogen. Although nuclear warheads are sealed in airtight metal containers to reduce oxidation and corrosion, the high explosives, plastics, and other organic materials also in the container emit tiny amounts of oxygen, hydrogen, and water vapor that, over time, can cause problems.
Uranium alloys also change their crystal structures, or phases, over time, which also presents aging problems. Materials scientists manufacture a part to have a specific phase in order to optimize its strength, density, or corrosion resistance. However, the strain a part accumulates during fabrication and the temperature variations a weapon experiences in the field can, over time, change the phase, thereby degrading a part's properties.
Subjected to the considerable heat given off by a weapon's radioactive plutonium, for example, a uranium part—and all other weapon parts—can reach temperatures as high as 40°C (about 100°F). A weapon can also experience temperature extremes in its storage environment, such as a desert. Temperature-induced phase changes that degrade uranium's mechanical properties are a major concern.
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You own gerbils? What do they eat? What do you keep them in? You had them declawed? Why? Are they ill tempered? If not do you provoke them to be? Why would you do that?
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