NATANZ, Iran - Iran on Monday announced that it has begun enriching uranium with 3,000 centrifuges, dramatically expanding a program that the United Nations has demanded it halt.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said at a ceremony at the enrichment facility at Natanz that Iran was now capable of enriching nuclear fuel "on an industrial scale."
Asked if Iran has begun injecting uranium gas into 3,000 centrifuges for enrichment, top nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani replied, "Yes." He did not elaborate. United Nations has demanded Iran halt the expansion of the uranium enrichment program.
The announcement suggests Iran has succeeded in operating a larger number of centrifuges at its Natanz enrichment facility in central Iran. The country has said its goal is to install and start working with 3,000 centrifuges.
Ahmadinejad did not specify how many centrifuges were now operational as he spoke at a ceremony at the facility, marking the one-year anniversary of Iran's first success in enriching small amounts of uranium.
"With great honor, I declare that as of today our dear country has joined the nuclear club of nations and can produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale," Ahmadinejad said.
The U.N. has imposed limited sanctions on Iran until it suspends enrichment a key process that can produce either fuel for a nuclear reactor or the basis of a warhead. The United States and its allies accuse Iran of seeking to build nuclear weapons, a claim the country denies.
"Now we are entering the mass production of centrifuges and starting to launch industrial scale enrichment, another step toward the flourishing of Islamic Iran," Vice President Gholamreza Aghazadeh said earlier at the ceremony at Natanz.
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great! And the timing of it right next to one of the most christian holidays of the year is no accident either. Iran will need to be dealt with sooner rather than later.
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It is just a matter of time....anytime now.....soon.........any minute now......oh, so close........KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by stocktrader2006: It is just a matter of time....anytime now.....soon.........any minute now......oh, so close........KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't that almost a quote from Rice back in 2002 about Iraq?
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I think we can trust that Iran will only use this capability for peaceful purposes.... Right Bdgee?
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I don't know anything about Iran's nuclear capabilities other than what I get from the same neo-con propaganda machine that told me almost the same things about pre-invasion Iraq.
Neither do you.
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You don't have to listen to the "neo-con" propaganda machine, this is the "president" of Iran saying this.
So again, I ask, do you trust that Iran will only use its enrichment capability for peaceful purposes?....
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Also, Bdgee, you don't need to know anything about Iran's nuclear weapon capabilities to understand the implications of them being able to enrich uranium at industrial levels....
Cmon, I expect more out of someone who goes around tooting their own horn about how educated they are and how stupid everyone else is....
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: do they trust that the U.S. will only use its enrichment capabilities for peaceful purposes?
They obviously don't....
So let me ask you Jordanreed, do you trust that Iran will use uranium enrichment for peaceful purposes?
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1) In your opinion(s), should more countries have access to the complete nuclear cycle?
2) Is nuclear energy an acceptable alternative to using fossil fuels as a source of electricity?
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no to both... no nulkear weapons whatsoever for anyone.anytime,anywhere...
get rid of em all..
to your other question,,,yes...i do think they will use them for peaceful uses...and as a deterant..they are scared of us using our nuclar weapons against them or anyone else who messes with us.....who wouldnt be? we're scary...and bullies..and aggressive...and arrogant...and liars...and thieves...
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: no to both... no nulkear weapons whatsoever for anyone.anytime,anywhere...
get rid of em all..
to your other question,,,yes...i do think they will use them for peaceful uses...and as a deterant..they are scared of us using our nuclar weapons against them or anyone else who messes with us.....who wouldnt be? we're scary...and bullies..and aggressive...and arrogant...and liars...and thieves...
Ok, so are you oppossed to Iran being able to enrich uranium?
Does Iran have a legitimate excuse for developing the complete nuclear fuel cycle simply because the US has the complete cycle, nuclear weapons, and acts like a "warmonger"?
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NR likes to ask what amount loaded questions that, within very their statement announce those questioned are guilty od something.
You know, questions that if answered at all carry an inference of evil or ignorance or such on the part of the answerer, things like, "Have you stopped beating your wife".
Personally, I choose to believe that NR can't be quite bright enough to understand the logical violations he makes in doing so (not to mention the intrusion on social manners and the insulting insinuations he leaves others to fend). If that is a wrong conclusion, then I have to revert to the more obvious one that he understands what he is doing and is making his pre-inferences in order to be insulting.
As to whether or not some country other than those that already have them, should or should not be allowed to have nuclear reactors, I have this to say. It is not the place of the United States to decide what goes on in other nations and each time that is a goal, the United States does seem to screw it up and create a worse situation than would have been without the interference.
I think no country should have nuclear weapons, us included, and, so long as we do, it serves as only a challenge and an invitation to other countries to reciprocate (it sure as hell doesn't serve world peace). We cannot expect other countries to be eager to do without nuclear weapons when we refuse to do so.
The Inited States had (past tense) the power and good relations about the world before Bush's War to influence just about any nation, including Iran (even Iraq) about almost any concern, but that was flushed down the toilet with the invasion of Iraq. We may never regain that status, but we reach closer to guaranteeing that we never can with each excuse made to stay in Iraq, with each new announcement that Iran (or Iraq or Afganistan or or whomeever) will yield to our demnands, with each re-iteration of the lies that got us into or keeps us in Iraq. The people of the world aren't really so dumb as the bushies treat them and they are pissed, to put it mildly.
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Iran, as a sovereigh nation has the right to do just about anything short of attacking another sovereign nation, including the right to have nuclear reactors.
Check out the treaties. Iran specifically was given the right to have a nuclear progran, 100% independent of anyone.
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I have checked out the treaties.... The problem is, Iran is in violation of it's side of the agreement it made in order to gain the "right" to have a nuclear program. Have you suddenly become an expert on Iran's nuclear program? How convienient....
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No, Iran is no more in violation than was Iraq in violation of not having destroyed their WMDs.
Bush lies.
By now, it should be clear to anyone, including you, that whatever Bush says about any other country (or anything, for that matter) has to be a lie.
I don't have to have recently become an expert on Iran's nuclear program in order to read the treaties and my knowledge of both Iran and treaties is not "sudden".
Even without treaties, Iran is a sovereign nation and holds all the reghts any such entity does. That includes having a nuclear program.
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I am not going to waste my time refuting your lies.
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I agree that Iran and all countries have the right to develope nuclear power programs, I also believe that Iran is and will continue to work towards developeing a nuclear weapons program just as India, Packistan and north Korea have done. a nuclear armed Iran would pose a serious security threat to the region in that it would GREATLY increase the probability of a conventional war against Isreal who`s nuclear deterent has so far eliminated the possibility of such a scenario, however a nuclear Iran would create the risk of a nuclear counter strike ( against Isreal ) should Isreal be forced to use tacticle nuclear weapons to stave off a military defeat from a large scale attack by it`s hostile neighbors. so what is to be done? do we allow Iran to complete it`s development of it`s nuclear weapons program and the full scale war against Isreal wich would surely follow close on the heals of Irans achieveing a viable nuclear "deterent" or do we take steps to stop this from happening.
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I agree that Iran and all countries have the right to develope nuclear power programs, I also believe that its more of an Israeli problem and they should handle it the same way they handled Iraq back in 81.
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I think Iran is more other people's problem. We seem to be making it our own while, the real countries that should be concerned sit back and say "let the americans handle it"
In the meantime the Iranian mullahs will dispatch teams of radicals aka terror cells to deal with US
The Saudis should be even more concerned then Israel
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Rim says...I think Iran is more other people's problem. We seem to be making it our own while, the real countries that should be concerned sit back and say "let the americans handle it"
i agree with that....whats up with the rest of the frickin world/?
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France is a perfect example. They always hedge their bets against US, knowing that our oppostions pose as greater threats to them than we do...cause they know theyll always be our *****
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Personally, as insulting as most Frenchmen (and women) are, I still think the U.S. owes them for the revolutioanry war.
I get tired of hearing cheap shots at them by the weak minded among us.
They are an independent nation, not one of our toys. The U. S. and France have each saved the other's toast more than once, even while disagreeing on many matters. We each will again, I predict.
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I agree, turning a blind eye and letting someone else deal with Iran is by far the best solution. After all, I'm sure France, Russia or China will step up to the plate if we don't.... The UN seems to be pretty effictive too...
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as for the french, we paid them back 10 fold for what they did for us during the revolutionary war.....which in my eyes was almost the equivalant of what we did for the afghans against russia... whos interest were they looking out for?
c'mon
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quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: I agree, turning a blind eye and letting someone else deal with Iran is by far the best solution. After all, I'm sure France, Russia or China will step up to the plate if we don't.... The UN seems to be pretty effictive too...
Well it is their problem and your sarcasim supports what i was saying about them getting to comfy with US doing all the dirty work....they gotta learn at some point
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If you think Iran as a nuclear state is going to stay confined to a regional problem then IMO you are being pretty short sighted...
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I never said it would stay...im simply saying that it will definetly BE a regional and global problem. On the regional side they have to worry about the response of an other country if say Iran does decide to shoot there load....if you may
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We should just let Iran have it's nuclear technology, assume it is for peaceful purposes, and mind our own business.
If it is ever discovered that Iran is persuing WMD's or tests a nuclear device, we can deal with it the same way we dealt with North Korea.
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quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: We should just let Iran have it's nuclear technology, assume it is for peaceful purposes, and mind our own business.
If it is ever discovered that Iran is persuing WMD's or tests a nuclear device, we can deal with it the same way we dealt with North Korea.
so we should leave them alone, as we did with North Korea and allow Iran to become a nuclear weaponized state, this seems a curious statement comming from a bush bashing poster!( the Iraq war has been a desaster and Bush rightly deserves MOST of the blame although congress and the media also share a fair degree of responsibility)( Iran will benefit most from this fiasco ) were not the democrats complaining loudly that while we "wasted our time" in Iraq persuing bogus WMD`s we allowed North Korea to complete developement of nuclear weapons and what a huge misteak that was!! now you suggest we do it again? what do you think will be the end result of an Iran with dozens or even hundreds of nuclear weapons? maybe they will use this stock pile as a deterent to agression right? they would never attack thier non-nuclear nieghbors or Isreal right? I mean they know how determined the U.S. congress is to use military force to keep them at bay!! NOT!!! if Iran is allowed to develope and stockpile a larg enough number of nuclear weapons they will be in a position to control most if not ALL of their nieghbors they will excersise this control politically and or millitarily and will thereby place themsevles in a position of huge economic authority over the west. with the ability to control most if not ALL mideast oil reserves they could wreak havoc on U.S. and western european economies at will!.the fall of the U.S. and the destruction of Isreal is thier stated goal. so we should leave the alone and let them do what they want?????? ( "mind our own business" )
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I was being sarcastic and using NK as an example of why we cannot stand around twiddling our thumbs.... Thanks for making my point.
LOL, btw, thanks for the Bush basher comment. It was a fresh breeze to me. I am used to being called a goose stepping RNC parrot...
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quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: Madmoney,
I was being sarcastic and using NK as an example of why we cannot stand around twiddling our thumbs.... Thanks for making my point.
LOL, btw, thanks for the Bush basher comment. It was a fresh breeze to me. I am used to being called a goose stepping RNC parrot...
sorry about that! got you mixed up with another poster! who`s comments i would not have taken as sarcasm!! there are many who believe we SHOULD do nothing about Iran but sit back and let them have thier nukes!
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