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Highwaychild
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"Liberal" Hillary Clinton is for permanent stay in Iraq, after all the smoke that was blown up the peoples butts about getting us out of there?


"Conservative" Rudy Giuliani is for partial-birth abortions after all the smoke that was blown from the GOP's on that topic?

I mean, I'm all for getting rid of all the party labels and getting us back to "One Nation Under God" ,but man they sure picked some monster issues to flop on...Didn't they?

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Hillary and Dubya are both bad for America IMO..

Rudy is for partial birth abortions? i doubt it...
i bet he is for staying the heck out of other people personal affairs tho...

i beleive he is the best hope we have right now...

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quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
"Liberal" Hillary Clinton is for permanent stay in Iraq, after all the smoke that was blown up the peoples butts about getting us out of there?


"Conservative" Rudy Giuliani is for partial-birth abortions after all the smoke that was blown from the GOP's on that topic?

I mean, I'm all for getting rid of all the party labels and getting us back to "One Nation Under God" ,but man they sure picked some monster issues to flop on...Didn't they?

You aren't very swift on the getting back to what we are department.

Lets see, now, borrowing the title, The Greatest generation", which was those Americans born just before and growing up during the great depression. They learned and recited that pledge as,

"....one nation, indivisable, with liberty and justice for all...."

not as you want it to be,

"one nation, under god....".

Then they went off and lasted through that terrible world war with those sentaments they learned as children and continued to say "indivisable" rather than "under god", even after. I think they did pretty damned well without the "god pledge", just believing in this nation, indivisable, don't you? They did a hell of a lot better than we are getting now from the righwing christian fanatics, to say the least.

You need to pay more attention to the Constitution than to your republican talking points:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establisment of a religion...".

I want my country to be my country because it is what it is. I certainly don't want it turned over to a bunch of fanatics of the type that tortured Galileo for understanding they were wrong.

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You have to be pretty damned far right to see Hillary as liberal.

Takes a badly skewed prospective.

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Do I owe you 15.00 now Highway?
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no, you owe me...

he transferred the debt [Razz]

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I like seeing Hillary's party lines when she wears a tight skirt or pants. [Big Grin]

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lol, that's so funny...you've always had a thang for her...

I think it's like my crush on Jane Pauley... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Do I owe you 15.00 now Highway?

Too close to call, call it a draw on that one if you want...lol
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"Where are the party lines?"

bush snorted them all. lol rofl..

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LOL

Nah, he doesn't do that anymore. His girls prolly took care of it for him.

It is true though that political leaders are starting to stray from party lines. I like that personally and hope it starts happening more often.

All this 'Demon'crat versus 'Repugnant'can is only polarizing an already difficult job. If more members start crossing party lines I think it's more likely moderate voices will hold weight across the board.

Perhaps that is one gift that Bush will end up giving us. Making everyone so PO'd at the infighting and trickery that'll they will start voting their conscious instead of obeying orders.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to get back to that???

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quote:
Originally posted by HILANDER:
I like seeing Hillary's party lines when she wears a tight skirt or pants. [Big Grin]

i like Martha a lot better than Hillary [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by urnso77:
"Where are the party lines?"

bush snorted them all. lol rofl..

that's pretty good URN.... but i think they were all gone by the time Dubya got to office.... Billary got 'em...

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If these turn out to be the candidates, Highwaychild, which one will you vote for?

quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
"Liberal" Hillary Clinton is for permanent stay in Iraq...

"Conservative" Rudy Giuliani is for partial-birth abortions...



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Ooo good question Gordo!

Which is the lesser evil here?

I know Giuliani has his supporters and did alright in NYC but there's something about the guy I just don't trust.

Not that I think career politician Hillary is the answer the country has been waiting for either.

Hmmm...?

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I think it is way too early to be even suggestiong that ANY so called candidate has the likelyhood of being the candidate.

Anyone that is convinced otherwise must be about 15 years old and never actually witnessed a presidential campaign before.

Also, anyone that believes the nevative hype being thrown around about any candidate at this time must have already been biased against that person anyway. That is normal and presents no true movement of the people, just the already biased, who, of course, aren't being moved, just rigid and non-thinking.

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dang bdgee calm down, it's just a what if....

if the GOP puts Rudy up as their candidate? it will mena the religious right has withdrawn from the field of engagement... [Wink]

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I'm calm. Just pointing out the sillyness of getting the cart before the horse.

The religious right may have already forced itself out of the field by tying itself to dubya.

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So who would you vote for today, if these candidates were your only choice? Anyone?

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Rudy...but im just a rightwing puppet
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So you accept that he'll deem women fit to control their own bodies?

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quote:
Originally posted by urnso77:
Rudy...but im just a rightwing puppet

Rudy is pick of the litter IMO too...

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I'm not a big abortion nut. Just don't like the partial birth stuff.
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That "partial birth" angle is just a scare tactic used by the Christian Reich.

It very rarely happens in reality...

In fact, the term "Partial Birth Abortion" was created by fear mongers. It is not a medical term whatsoever.

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i have never been able to find any statistics that were published by a reliable source on partial birth abortions...

70-75% of Americans want reasonable limits on abortions.

the fact is? the GOP congress and Bush intentionally crafted bills that could not pass constittutional muster JUST to get the activists all riled up...

sadly? Bush and the GOP's CAUSED more abortions to be allowed by passing an (intentionally) unconstitutional law just to score political points.. sick ain't it?

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Define "reasonable limits."

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Reasonable limits: one man's trash is another man's.....
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Exactly. What the hell does "reasonable" mean in this case?

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by HILANDER:
I like seeing Hillary's party lines when she wears a tight skirt or pants. [Big Grin]

i like Martha a lot better than Hillary [Big Grin]
I like 'em both glass. My ultimate threesome. rrrrrrraaaaaaauuuuuuuuggggggggghhhhhhhhhh

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what an image...

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yeah,what an image... I think I've gotta puke!
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quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
yeah,what an image... I think I've gotta puke!

whatcha talking about... Martha was a model just a few years ago:

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Ok, just half way pukin'! She's HOT!!! It was just the Hillary image that put the whammy on me.LOL
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a few years ago...could be the key...

are you saying that's Martha Stewart?

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
a few years ago...could be the key...

are you saying that's Martha Stewart?

she's a model isn't she [Razz]

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