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bdggee, could we lessen the namecalling thing a little?
quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: Glass, my only point was that the Clinton impeachment wasn't about "hanky-panky" but about honesty.
....and I don't ever recall tying to claim that Bush and Cheney are "honest politicians"... please don't put words in my mouth.
i was just asking, i was bummed when that's all they came up with after a 60 million dollar investigation... i thought the guy actually did something else...
i make no excuses for Clinton either....
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Go back months ago and check. It was NR that first started the insulting with that line "spouting party line" and followed it up almost immediately with worse.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: NR, you are an facist goose stepping idiot of the first class, without the sense or class God gave a carved hand puppet.
That so-caled "lie under oath" was a set-up trap paid for, arranged, and administered by the Republican party, and, except for that conspiracy, there would have been no "lie" (actually, it wasn't a lie, but the republicaan controlled court refused to listen to the truth).
Shouldn't any Federal Special Prosecuter be disbarred and put in prison for secretely and feloniously feeding secret grand jury testimony to a litigant in a civil suit?
And shouldn't each and every member of the republican party that "conspired" with him be in that prison with him?
Why do you claim it is acceptable to excuse republicans for violating laws?
NR, you certainly have claimed that both Bush and Chaney are honest, whether or not you remember it or not!
Bush and Cheney are obviously liars, like any other politician. I just don't agree with everything you claim they lied about. Any suggestion that I believe 100% of what Bush and Cheney say to be truthful is false, and I dare you to sort through my posts here and prove otherwise.
The most I've ever done is tell you that your conspiracy theories involving Bush, Iraq and the 2000 elections are childish and pretty typical of the Sore-Loserman crowd.
As far as Clinton goes?
If it really were like you say, and the Clinton impeachment was a "trap" set by a vast right wing conspiracy as you claim....
.......Clinton still lied about Lewensky and fell right into it. Why? BECAUSE HE IS A LIAR.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: bdggee, could we lessen the namecalling thing a little?
quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: Glass, my only point was that the Clinton impeachment wasn't about "hanky-panky" but about honesty.
....and I don't ever recall tying to claim that Bush and Cheney are "honest politicians"... please don't put words in my mouth.
i was just asking, i was bummed when that's all they came up with after a 60 million dollar investigation... i thought the guy actually did something else...
i make no excuses for Clinton either....
Glass, I too was disapointed that nothing came of it. IMO also, Clinton was guilty of much more than just lying about Lewinsky. China comes to mind....
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You have a serious defficiency in both memory and integrity.
Then too, I have no "conspiracy theories involving Bush, Iraq and the 2000 elections ". What I have said on that subject is obviously correct because otherwise, they republicans wouldn't have stopped the counting in Florida in 2000.
You have several conspiracy theories on about any topic, all provided to you via the RNC and the Administration.
I wouldn't sort through your post if I were paid to do it, so get off the "knock this chip off my shoulder" stance.
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Go back months ago and check. It was NR that first started the insulting with that line "spouting party line" and followed it up almost immediately with worse.
Hahahah Bdgee, if I had a dime for every post on Allstocks that you included the phrase "spouting the party line" in it I could retire....
Honestly, anybody who has ever disagreed with you knows exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe someone else in Off-Topic will step in and help me out on this one....
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: somebody has to start being reasonable tho...
maybe next month?
seriously? the only thing that the Whitewater investigation did was lower the bar....
wait till the GOP is no longer in control...
whether it's this fall or '08? the doodoo is gonna hit the fan and for very good reasons...
Dealay, Ney and Abramoff are just the begining...
Libby? go ahead and write him off now... Bush will have to pardon him...
Glass, If Bush and others are guilty then put them on trial. Maybe this will happen in 08 as you suggest. If they are really guilty of everything Bdgee and the Dems claim, it should be easy to put them away. I have nothing against that. It is what the American people need to do.... hold politicians accountable...
....However,
It still doesn't change my view on Saddam and WMD's...among other things.... and Bdgee, just because I don't agree with you, doesn't mean I'm a "puppet of the party". Get a new tactic.
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It isn't because you disagree and get insulting with anything that isn't exactly what you want said (though you ertainly do that), it is because what you want said is exactly what the RNC wants you to want said.
I have no idea what makes you that way, but it is clear you are either unwilling to think beyond the far rightwing extreme propaganda from the Party or you can't.
There were no WMDs and there was NO connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda. With all the proof of that, it takes a liar or a fool or an ultra-loyal republican party liner (or all three) to continue that excuse for the disgusting actions of this Administration.
I don't need a new tactic, I have the facts.
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I will step up with you Natural and agree with you concerning Bdgee. However, many of us here, myself included, have at times been guilty of similar actions. I agree with Glassman, we all need to start being reasonable here, let others have a voice and keep our voices down to a dull roar. Allstocks is a great site and Bob does a great job running this Board. I spent many months over at that spit hole RB thinking that was normal behavior. You could get in an argument there over what time it was. It wasn't until I ventured here that I truly found my home. I have made the offer to Bdgee before to tone things down and am making the offer now in an attempt to lift up the tone of this board.
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Ditto bro', as the new kid on the block whose words have stepped on many toes it is up to me to say I have made many mistakes and have contributed to the tension on these boards. For that I apologize, seeking forgiveness, for my limitations, my inadequacies, my offenses. Any that have wounded me, I freely forgive and seek to rise up in new fellowship around the circle that makes up this corner of the public square. It is not going to be my custom to step outside the threads I begin but I thought this was one of those appropriate times for me to do so.
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still waiting to hear what these guys were planning on using...
weren't the Subway bombers in '05 also Subjects of the British Crown?
Mohammad Sidique Khan (October 20, 1974 – July 7, 2005) was the oldest of the terrorists responsible....
...Born in St James's University Hospital, Leeds, he grew up in Beeston but moved to Lees Holm in Dewsbury, near Leeds in West Yorkshire in early 2005. His father, Tika Khan, a foundry worker, was born in Pakistan.
yeah...
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I was wondering why I could not find opinions on the terror plot. Now I know. It must be Lieberman's fault since that is the forum it is being dicussed in.
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quote:Originally posted by farmgirl: I was wondering why I could not find opinions on the terror plot. Now I know. It must be Lieberman's fault since that is the forum it is being dicussed in.
Leiberman did it! yes! that 'splains everything....
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both lieberman and that guy who invented the internet whose name escapes me right now need to know that in america when you lose an election, you really lose !
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AL GORE LOST AND SUED OVER WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS ERRORS IN THE VOTING. I DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM BUT CAN RESPECT THAT. LIEBERMAN DOES NOT LIKE WHAT PEOPLE IN THE PARTY HE BELIEVES IN THINKS OF HIM SO HE IS SELLING OUT TO THE INDEPENDENT PARTY TRIING TO GET VOTES. I CAN NOT RESPECT OR VOTE FOR SOMEONE THAT WOULD SO EASILY GIVE UP THEIR FUNDAMENTAL BELIEFS AND SELL THEMSELVES ELSEWHERE.
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still losers farmgirl. btw the irony is in the last presidential there were also 2 losers - bush and kerry. no three, counting the ameican public.all of them sold out and are owned by the special interests like big oil that supported them, hence the big mess for the average american.
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