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bdgee
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no matter who has a license to practice whatever.

Personally, it's none of my business what sort of sex life you have or with whom you share it and I'd appreciate it if you would keep it to yourself, no matter what some religio-centric officials say.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060801/ap_on_he_me/morning_after_pill_20

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I tend to agree with you bdgee. To me, there's a whole different set of criteria that I use to determine if I want to associate with someone, who they sleep with isn't one of them. However, we just had some lesbians move in next door to us and I have to admit, I wanna know the details!
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Bdgee-
I tend to agree. Public displays of affection (PDA's) are at best naseous and at worst offensive. Thank you for bringing attention to this serious issue.

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Up, you are turning into a nosey b*st*rd, ain'tcha.

You are thinking that because they do naughty things with one another, they might do naughty things with you?

Bet those are some good lookin lezzies.

heh heh heh

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And they argued all night

Over who had the right

To do which and with what and to whom.

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The 'morning after pill' may finally put a stop to the increasing number of idiots who feel that they have the right to tell others what they can do with their own bodies.

Good riddance, I say.

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I doubt it Gordo.....
don't think the libs will ever stop trying to make people stop smoking and driving SUV's.

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JW's definition of a lib is anyone with ideas he has difficulties with.
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speaking of tobacco and Bush?

Justice Dept. Official to Be Questioned in Tobacco Case
Federal Judge Rules That McCallum Must Answer to Group Seeking Records on Department's Conduct

Associated Press
Friday, June 2, 2006; Page A20

A federal judge ruled yesterday that Associate Attorney General Robert D. McCallum Jr. must undergo questioning in a lawsuit by a nonprofit group seeking records about the Justice Department's conduct in a landmark case against the tobacco industry.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington sued last year after the department ignored the testimony of one of its own witnesses in the tobacco trial and reduced the amount the Bush administration is seeking from the tobacco industry from $130 billion to $10 billion.

CREW said the department has failed to produce a single responsive document to demands for information under the Freedom of Information Act.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/01/AR2006060101678. html

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Opponents say wider access to the pill could promote promiscuity

...and? does it matter?

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well? it only matters if somebody is having fun and not paying their tithes.....

also? i wonder just how much 120billion$ reduction in penalties buys you? i hope it was at least a couple billion and not just afew million...

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The Bush economy will stop you from driving SUV's. (It might make you want to smoke even more though.)

LOL

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I doubt it Gordo.....
don't think the libs will ever stop trying to make people stop smoking and driving SUV's.



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More promiscous????...... tell me more.....
Wait, damnit and I have to be married.
Rotten timing as usual.

When I was single even beer couldn't get me any.

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How is a marriage license going to be kept private? Isn't it a matter of public record?
That's all I care about. The rest of the stuff, privacy of there own home, insurance, etc. I could care less about.

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Yeah, it's a matter of public record, not religious record.

It's a place that religion needs to learn to respect and stop declaring theirs.

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Religous people are a part of the public no?
You are asking a large portion of the public to disregard their beliefs and let something be officially endorsed that they do not agree with.

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When you say why can't we allow people to keep things private.... how is a marriage endorsed by the public considered private?

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Was your marriage endorsed by me? Funny, I don't recall getting the notice in the mail. [Roll Eyes]


quote:
Originally posted by Johnwayne:
When you say why can't we allow people to keep things private.... how is a marriage endorsed by the public considered private?



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JW,

Stop avoiding the fact that you are determined to ignore the Constitution when what you want is a law passed that defines marriage with respect to your own religious bigotry.

"Congress shall make no law respecting....."

[ August 02, 2006, 16:28: Message edited by: bdgee ]

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What's the word I'm looking for Gordo... not endorsed but..... meaning verified by a public employee. I can't think of what word I am looking for. Who signs the damn marriage license? County Recorder?

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A marriage is not always a matter of public record. It's perfectly legal, and common, to get a private marriage.

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The constitution says nothing about homosexual marriage. How am I ignoring it?
But while were on the subject..... does the constitution say anything about relatives getting married?

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You can be legally married without filing with the county recorder?
Don't you have to apply for a marriage license?

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Yes, but discrimination is unconstitutional.

In some cases, gay couples wishing to be married have taken their case to court. In one of the first cases, in 1999, the Vermont Supreme Court ruled that homosexuals as a class were being discriminated against by their inability to marry. Under the Vermont Constitution, such discrimination was not permitted. The Court directed the state legislature to create an institution with all the same rights and privileges of marriage. Thus, civil union was born. The Vermont legislature made a new institution that resembled marriage in all ways except in name. For all intents and purposes, when a couple joined in civil union is in Vermont, they are to be treated as though married.


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The constitution says nothing about homosexual marriage.



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With a private marriage, my records are the same as yours. The main difference is that, with mine, you will need a court order to see them.

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You can be legally married without filing with the county recorder?
Don't you have to apply for a marriage license?



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Please define private marriage Gordo.
How does it work for tax purposes?

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It's the same as regular marriage. You just have the right to keep you affairs private.

(Although that's changing fast with the idiots in charge now.)

By the way, what's up with that? Didn't Republicans used to support privacy issues?

[Roll Eyes]

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So when you say private marriage it is the same as a regular marriage?

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No constitutional amendment needed guys. This is good enough for me:

Virginia is one of at least six states voting on a constitutional ban on same-sex unions this fall. Voters in 20 states already have already approved such amendments, most of them overwhelmingly. Twenty-five other states forbid same-sex marriage by statutes.

Let the states decide.

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There is no mention in the Constitution of marriage.

It does not state that there is "gay Marriage" and it does not specify that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Marriage, so long as law is concerned, is a contract between the participants and to declare that only a specific sort of person may have the right to participatein a contract is discrimination.

You are NOT required to marry either a person of different gender or one of similar gender. You are not required to marry at all.

At the same time, you are not required to even recognize the marriage of people, except as it is a function of law.

So you may ignore the marriage of a pair of lesbians, so long as you do not expect the Government to do so, since that would be a violation of the 1st Amendment, which would anmount to acting so as to respect a religious belief.

Of course, they may ignore your marriage too.

Serves you right!

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Lance Bass of that group **#~^$^*~#(^~$*

came out of the closet beeg.

Sounds like he wants some repect for his privates life.

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Bdgee-
No way in hell I'm gonna ignore lesbians, married or not!!

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Nah, Pease, he's wanting attention because of it.
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JW,

You got the hots for lezzies?

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Use too. My interest has lessoned of late. Doesn't mean I could ignore "lesbian interraction". Hell I'm married I'm not dead LOL!

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