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westcott
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Just as I suspected, another dodge of an extremely elementary set of questions:

How does the creation of Islamic Market Indexes evolve into legislative policy making in the United States of America?

...and...

Why should secular Market Indexes have preferential treatment over religiocentric Market Indexes?
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Soon the dodges will multiply and then evolve into ad hominem attacks. Just watch.

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Ever get the feeling people are ignoring you?

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The paradox in that statement made my afternoon.

Please keep writing.

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you like paradoxes w? i like irony.....


the Muslim gentlemen, (you note that i have always capitalized Muslim out of respect), were in fact insisting that i follow something like kosher law.... the cleaning of the fish in a way prescribed by the Q'oran (so they said).

when i said you weren't making points just asking silly questions? i was only challenging you to make assertive points to discuss, not ask me if i'm implying anything...
that (IMO) is a weak debating technique that i ususally find being used by people that have lots of hubrus.....

you cliam to understand that Muslims have some different views on persoanl freedom, but? based on your assertions? and based on the general attitude in the USA i don't think that you or most people have a clue as to how serious the problem is....

there have been many fatwas demanding capital punishment issued for violating Islamic law that goes against simple freedoms you and i take for granted....

Salmon Rushdie? remeber him? the fatwa was issued for him to be assassintated wherever he was...and? a 3million$ bounty was placed on his head by Khomeini himself...
the fatwa is still in effect as of last year....i don't know about today....

when people say Islam (in practical terms) is a religion of peace? they overlooking a lot inconvenient facts....

do i think Christianity (in practical terms) is religion of peace? no, most definitely not....

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Mr. Glassman,

I agree with just about everything you said in your post regarding Muslims. So please keep that in mind.

As I recall, this thread was posted for the purpose of shining a light on Islamic Market Indexes. Correct?

So, I have asked all along...how does a product, the Islamic Market Index, translate into the realization of oppressive Islamic laws here in the United States of America?

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Where'd DW go?

Clutterbugs in action?

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here is a good example of hubrus:
I didn't think anyone would want to tackle the other question I posed which is why should secular Market Indexes have preferential treatment over religiocentric Market Indexes?

Funny how people conveniently skip over answering such a question head-on and instead begin blaming "Catholics" because they don't believe in the use of condoms. What is even more disturbing about some of the posts I have read is the level of stereotyping and thinly veiled bigotry people use to underpin a point that is being offered to a question that was never posed! Remarkable.



i didn't answer it directly because i don't find it to be a relevant question...
you missed the point of PG's which was that she's concerned about "Islamic law reaching too far
into our Western societies."

you seem to have missed this subtlety and instead wish to call us bigots....

you also seem to be asking me to give you several years of graduate level macro-economics when you ask me: "How does the creation of Islamic Market Indexes evolve into legislative policy making in the United States of America?'

lastly? why should we answer any of your questions? LOL we do this cuz we want to... i don't recall anybody being appointed debate "master" [Roll Eyes]
...and, if someone is brave enough you can answer my second question that has been dangling unanswered:

Why should secular Market Indexes have preferential treatment over religiocentric Market Indexes?

i didn't see anybody here say there should be NO religiocentric indexes, just that this is a new thing and it shows a definite trend...

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Frankly, I'm more concerned about the Chinese. The people? No-o-o-o .... the economy--we need to be smart, and less scrutable

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i'd really like to see how much of the mortgage paper in the US is owned by the Chinese.....
particularly the ARMs......

some days i try to tell myself i'm just being pessimistic, but........

Chinese, U.S. economies more joined than ever
FOREIGN-CURRENCY RESERVES: China's increasing investment in U.S. Treasury bonds leaves each side feeling vulnerable.
BY TIM JOHNSON
KNIGHT RIDDER NEWSPAPERS

BEIJING - Every weekday, Hu Xiaolian arrives at her office in Beijing's west side and takes actions that affect the monthly mortgage and credit card payments of tens of millions of Americans.

Peering through her wire-rimmed glasses, Hu monitors a bank of four computer terminals and offers a guiding hand as China invests some of its $875 billion in foreign-currency reserves, greater than any other nation on Earth.

...China's foreign reserves grow at an astounding rate of $20 billion a month, heading toward $1 trillion by the end of this year.


http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/business/14714000.htm

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quote:
Originally posted by Peaser01:
I sent this on to Eliot Spitzer today:

I applaud your previous efforts in cleaning up some of the corruption on Wall Street. I want to urge you to continue the good fight and not stop here.

My concern is with the manipulation in the stock market by way of illegal naked shorting of securities by way of market maker's, and brokerage houses.

I do not believe that the SEC is doing all they can to stop these illegal activities that are going on throughout the markets. From the pennystocks up to the big boards, these illegal practices are running rampant and are hurting many. I am urging you Mr. Spitzer, to please take on this task to further clean up our stock market and not look the other way to this issue.

Thank you for your time.

I just got a letter from Eliot today in the mail. He mentioned that he is sure that my comments will be of interest to them in regards to the SEC and thanked me for taking the time for expressing my support in his efforts to investigate the mutual fund industry and conflicts of interest on Wall St., and in restoring of integrity to corporate America.

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Good boy, Peaser!

I will follow up with a letter of my own!

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Nice Purl.

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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Good boy, Peaser!

I will follow up with a letter of my own!

Purl Gurl

So, how is that follow-up coming along PG?

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Done!

I offered to have sex with him if Spitzer
would prosecute Bush for securities fraud.

(potential for a best seller book - big bucks)

"Spitzer; Sex & The Bush" by Taha

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There's a Naked Short selling article in the Wall St. Journal(Pg C3) today along with Forbes online http://www.forbes.com/columnists/2006/07/11/leadership-harve-pitt-cs_hp_0711cove ringupnakedshorts.html.

Looks like the SEC is getting a little pressure finally from some state representatives.

There is talk of ending the Market maker's ability to naked short stocks as I believe this is the only legal way to do it.

Here is a good read as well for those that don't quite understand the topic:

http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/2005/commentary05033008.htm

The potential problem is that unscrupulous folks could potentially register as market makers to take advantage of the exemptions. (Do you want to be a market maker? Go here for an application! It's not a rubber-stamp process, but it's not as hard as you might think.) Right now, "bona fide" market making is judged by the individual transaction rather than by the individual market maker, so no market maker gets a blanket exemption, but any market maker -- even the ones posting $0.001 bid/$10,000 ask spreads -- get a pass in the right circumstances. It's a situation that seems to hold potential for mischief.

[ July 12, 2006, 08:54: Message edited by: Peaser ]

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any bets we see this pop up somewhere else today? LOL
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I find this an interesting topic.

I learned in college that islam is we against they...they are the infidels, the christians, etc...

Our oil money is letting islam fight us.

I have said and will say...lets put the billions in solar and we no loner have oil dependecy and all the destructive intracies resulting from that dependency.

We have environment friendly energy source and we create so many innovative jobs in america.

America should ise this as an opportunity to create a better world by using solar, etc. in environmentally friendly ways.

Fighting in Iraq is not the answer..maybe a costly short term answer but in the long term..we will not win...

If we as americans value this land with all its political spectrum of views, we need to support solar...

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thinkmoney,


My whole hearted backing for your ideas on getting energy independent, with one exception. Lets not limit it to just solar. There is enormous potential in other energy sources, like thermal and wind and - - -

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quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
any bets we see this pop up somewhere else today? LOL

LOL, well I posted it in the newbies section.

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Bump: To bump down spam attack..
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LOL.. no sh!t Dusty.. what's up with the bump attack.

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http://www.dealflowmedia.com/issues/pipesreport/4_13/trendwatch/878-1.html

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