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The stem cell issue has been blown way out of proportion. I agree there is probably a better way than fetal cells... They'll figure it out in time.. till then we get to listen to heated arguements about anything but the facts of the issue... no biggie... this too shall pass
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I don't think that owning a gun or guns is a mark of being a conservative except in the same sorts minds that justify killing doctors who might do abortions. Of all the liberals and all the conservatives I have ever known, liberals are the most likely to own guns. I don't think outside the northeast, gun ownership is very political....it's just normal.
Glass a closet liberal? Not a chance. It's just that he exhibits certain characteristics the neo ultra conservatives seem to despise, like a willingness to admit mistakes and an unwillingness to support what he sees as absurd. Once upon a time, those were characteristics conservatives prided on. they weren't always right, but they tried to be, not just claim to be. Those old fashioned conservatives were staunchly American FIRST....the party came later.
Glass..., your argument for stem cell research is based on honesty and sound reasoning, not Party loyalty, the same sort of honesty and reasoning Goldwater based his request of Nixon to step down.
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Tex, I always admired Goldwater, just couldn't buy his concern for red hatred. I was never so concerned with those fools. He stuck to his guns, but would listen and reason. But the man was sincere and honest and an American FIRST!
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my point: relativity and situational perspective...remember how he struck many as a knee-jerk, over-the-top right-winger? Today? Rush would call him a pantywaist if not traitor "to the cause"....
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Fat Rush, the doper, calls anyone not goose stepping to display their absolute loyalty to Party propaganda a communist. He (and they) forget a lotta communist died fighting Hitler's Party. Good, honest, brave, and dedicated human beings doing their best to make it a better world. Meanwhile, Fat Rush, the doper, is a draft dodger.
Goldwater was an American....1st, 2nd, 3rd, and so on 'til he died. He never would have denied another American the right to speak whatever they wanted and he didn't call them names for not agreeing with him. There used to be a lot of very partisan politicians like that, partisan, but American and honest first. Rayburn, Russell, Albert, Dirkson.....
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the problem i see is that the bubble may not burst..
because oil is so basic to the economy? if they can hold the price up long enough? it will be like a self-fulfilling prophecy....
gasoline is the oonly thing that has been in short supply... oil has been flowing well, but i've noticed that there has been a series of refinery accidents over the last couple years that have steadily driven the price of gasoline up, and thye don't drop back down as much after each event...
the real problem is not enought refinery capacity and not enough free-market competition in the refinery biz/.....
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heres an interesting article on how much other countries are paying for gas.
"While higher gasoline prices in other regions of the globe won't ease the pinch on American consumers pocketbooks, U.S. drivers will surely wince knowing that some drivers in oil-producing countries, like Venezuela, pay as little as 12 cents for a gallon of gas.
Pump prices in Kuwait City for August averaged 68 cents a gallon in August, while Cairo drivers could expect to pay 59 cents per gallon during that same time.
In Saudi Arabia, where pump prices are regulated by the government, the average price of gasoline right now is 92 cents per gallon, according to Nail Al-Jubeir, a spokesperson for the Saudi Arabian consulate in Washington, D.C."
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and in China? they are standing in lines to get gas because the chinese refiners are SHIPPING it overseas, because they can get more money for it elsewhere..the gasoline price is govt controlled in China...
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If one day , all of America did not drive, decided to stay home , this would drive prices down. Prices are falsely inflated, for greed only. JMHO
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: good article timber...
there is a bubble forming IMO..
Putin put the ball in play with the Yukos deal..
the problem i see is that the bubble may not burst..
because oil is so basic to the economy? if they can hold the price up long enough? it will be like a self-fulfilling prophecy....
gasoline is the oonly thing that has been in short supply... oil has been flowing well, but i've noticed that there has been a series of refinery accidents over the last couple years that have steadily driven the price of gasoline up, and thye don't drop back down as much after each event...
the real problem is not enought refinery capacity and not enough free-market competition in the refinery biz/.....
Don"t forget Hugo Chavez. Him and others (including the Dems) have played there part. There is more to this problem than just the easy blame the president game.
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i can put my hands on a 429 CJ today if i want. I've always built up small blocks cuz i can get 2000 more RPM out of them and they're 300 to 400 pounds lighter. Nothing beats a big block in 1/4 mile though
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