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Posted by Nanny on :
 
Whey isn't the Government doing something about these high gas prices? What happens if the Truckers stop trucking because of gas prices. What can we do? Whom can we call?
 
Posted by Polarbear17 on :
 
I wouldn't hold your breath on gas prices going down any time soon , To me gas prices are still cheap.I have freinds in canada whom i vist ocassionaly and there gas is $3.60 a gallon . Think thats bad try Europe were gas has been over $5.00 a gallon for over a decade now. Yet every body still works and the trucks keep rolling . Yupe Get used to seeing higher prices.
You could hope on the band wagon and invest in oil stocks to make some money off this.
Plus you could do what i did years ago and by a Mtn bike for transportaion and use Public transit . PS: the govt is going to do anything about higher gas prices when its making lots of money from these prices .
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
I suggest an immediate coupon program, based on last year's tax return, plus bonuses if you have a breadwinner in a DSSR danger OR hardship zone...

Powell told Bush this was gonna happen...
 
Posted by GVMOORE on :
 
Lets shut the world down for one week.
That should help. World wide boycott. Last
wk in oct sound good to me. I can do without
gas for one wk or maybe two. Nanny just get
the word out. I know you can do it. Wonder
if any other side effects besides lower gas
prices. Good luck.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
"Powell told Bush this was gonna happen..."

Yes, but he wasn't the first to tell him. And he wasn't the second or the third or anywhere close to those. Telling him or any of the shrubbery anything is sort of like p---ing in the ocean.

Nanny. I wish I could see cheap gas in the future, but I can't. There is no way we can control the 800 pound gorilla. China wants the oil so we are going to end up without it. It's time we stopped coddling the oil companies and transfer all the goodies we have been awarding them into research and development to make non-fossil fuel energy a reality instead of just a hope. Do it thoughtfully and we can achieve polution free energy too.
 
Posted by tuck on :
 
It has been 30 years since the oil embargo. During this time, we have done nothing. I do not think we will now, until some ships go down. China in return pays much more for oil that is in transit, and our ecomny takes a nose dive due to no oil........................ The anti christ could just be crude oil.......................
 
Posted by Krysten911 on :
 
If I told you soon I would be lying. The damage is done as demonstrated by many fine points in another Off- Topic message strand- Energy prices...

This much anticipated energy bill comes out and what does it do? Read the fine print and see that it cuts off United States oil development interests at the knees...Quest Oil just poked a hole in a major find and well, any uptick? Barely, because the Bush administration oil interests remain overseas, ignorant of the suffering that the middle class working family is going through. I have never seen such obvious back turning ever. This makes Nixon look like a boy scout!
 
Posted by weatherbill on :
 
GAS PRICES WILL NEVER BE CHEAP AGAIN.....WHY????

GO TO www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net

Dear Reader,

Civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon. This is not the wacky proclamation of a doomsday cult, apocalypse bible prophecy sect, or conspiracy theory society. Rather, it is the scientific conclusion of the best paid, most widely-respected geologists, physicists, and investment bankers in the world. These are rational, professional, conservative individuals who are absolutely terrified by a phenomenon known as global "Peak Oil."
 
Posted by HILANDER on :
 
I heard that there were HUGE oil reserves in Siberia. Dunno if it's true, but wouldn't that be an option. Of course after reading lifeaftertheoilcrash, maybe not. Now I'm freaked out. Gonna go look at horses this weekend.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Good stuff in that link, weatherbill, but not new to me. I've been playing with those numbers for years and years. It's all been known in scientific circles for decades. The Catholic church knew the earth revolved about the sune long before they imprisioned Galileo for publishing it in Italian so commoners could read it. Along with the idiocy of "intellegent Design" and overpopulation, the religions of the world also wants to push onto you the assinine notion that God provides and man can do with what he provides as he wishes. Bulls--t! We are already running out of space and oil and food.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Krysten911:
If I told you soon I would be lying. The damage is done as demonstrated by many fine points in another Off- Topic message strand- Energy prices...

This much anticipated energy bill comes out and what does it do? Read the fine print and see that it cuts off United States oil development interests at the knees...Quest Oil just poked a hole in a major find and well, any uptick? Barely, because the Bush administration oil interests remain overseas, ignorant of the suffering that the middle class working family is going through. I have never seen such obvious back turning ever. This makes Nixon look like a boy scout!

*bump*
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i suspect that "overseas interests" is the rule now... i suspect that most of the "financial leaders" of this country have moved their wealth offshore and have every intention of keeping it there......

H Ross Perot tried to tell US what was going on in '92.....
remeber that "sucking sound"???

it's more like a toilet flushing now....
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nanny:
Whey isn't the Government doing something about these high gas prices? What happens if the Truckers stop trucking because of gas prices. What can we do? Whom can we call?

Search the constitution and show me where it is the government's role to interfere in the free market.
Supply and demand cannot be governed without catastrophic results.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
yeee-haww

fresh talent...lol

hey, DTW, how did you wind up here?
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
quote:
Originally posted by Nanny:
Whey isn't the Government doing something about these high gas prices? What happens if the Truckers stop trucking because of gas prices. What can we do? Whom can we call?

Search the constitution and show me where it is the government's role to interfere in the free market.
Supply and demand cannot be governed without catastrophic results.

m-a-a-aybe, BUT...

we would like the reg-boyz to enforce the rules...
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
yeee-haww

fresh talent...lol

hey, DTW, how did you wind up here?

Tex I am not new.
You know me as DiQuiRiesco.
I've had to change my name as I was banned for speaking ill of QBID... a stock I once promoted.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
lol, so what's your agenda, now?
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
same as always... trade stocks and intelligent conversation.
Look I'm sorry if we can't agree on QBID... But I have no agenda. I remember this board when positive and negative opinions were both accepted on this board... argued heck yeah... but accepted.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
same as always... trade stocks and intelligent conversation.
Look I'm sorry if we can't agree on QBID... But I have no agenda. I remember this board when positive and negative opinions were both accepted on this board... argued heck yeah... but accepted.

rotf, I ain't no Q-rabid--but...lol, as I remember you, you always got an agenda....
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
you don't remember me then
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
remember the handle, a lil bit...

what I'm reacting to now is you seem to want stir it up, lol....

right or wrong?
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
dude, you gotta unnerstand?

If I forgot one of the good guys? We been under attack for weeeks in a row on the weeekend...
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
I am THE good guy... well Glass too... but don't listen to him when it comes to politics... he's a closet liberal no matter what he says.
Been plenty of guard changes over the last couple of years...some leave and some come back.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
you are funny...

what's your thoughts on "low-float, group picks"?
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
Fools take the easy way out.
Years ago it was the pump and dump.
Now group plays.
Do yourself a favor... learn to read charts.
Learn to read message boards.
Learn to read PR's.
If you get into the easy way it will be the only way you know.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
Fools take the easy way out.
Years ago it was the pump and dump.
Now group plays.
Do yourself a favor... learn to read charts.
Learn to read message boards.
Learn to read PR's.
If you get into the easy way it will be the only way you know.

kewl--at least we know you're not momo...

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
Homo is the reason I'm back.
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
ohhhhh... really feel bad about that... yeah... very sorry... I meant Momo.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
rotf: please explain....
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DeportTheWitless:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nanny:
[qb] Whey isn't the Government doing something about these high gas prices? What happens if the Truckers stop trucking because of gas prices. What can we do? Whom can we call?

Search the constitution and show me where it is the government's role to interfere in the free market.
Supply and demand cannot be governed without catastrophic results.

-------------------------------------------------

I agree, the line getting into the Mustang Ranch is way to long......

The state of Nevada never should of poked it's, well, ahemmm into the Ranch!!!
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Then too, show us where in the Constitution there is any granting of authority to the free market or any such imagined entity? There is NO assumption of any particular monitary format there. "Congress shall pass no law abridging the...." (or some such wording), it says, and thereafter it list several things, but not any "free Market I can find.
 
Posted by osubucks30 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Polarbear17:
I wouldn't hold your breath on gas prices going down any time soon , To me gas prices are still cheap.I have freinds in canada whom i vist ocassionaly and there gas is $3.60 a gallon . Think thats bad try Europe were gas has been over $5.00 a gallon for over a decade now. Yet every body still works and the trucks keep rolling . Yupe Get used to seeing higher prices.
You could hope on the band wagon and invest in oil stocks to make some money off this.
Plus you could do what i did years ago and by a Mtn bike for transportaion and use Public transit . PS: the govt is going to do anything about higher gas prices when its making lots of money from these prices .

The US is the highest user of gas in the World. At $5 a gallon we the economy will collapse with major unemployment. Russia fell vey quickly! Europe gas has been high for a while because they have such high taxes. Plus over there they drive very small cars.
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
The Soviet Union fell due to the waste of fighting al quida. Europe is, compared to the US, a quite small place.
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
Soviet Union fell because they were communists and could not compete with The US when it came to an arms race.
Communism is flawed in that there is no money in it.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
hmmmm...
closet liberal...

interesting concept...

i checked my closet and it's full of rifles and shotguns...
looked under the bed [Wink] , found more....

maybe i'm a "linen closet liberal" there's really some linens in there with the 7.62x39 and the .223 cans... [Big Grin]

Soviet Union fell because they squandered what little money they did have fighting useless wars...sound familiar?...
they cut too many corners, didn't offer enough rewards for work accomplished, and they have poor/non-existant business ETHICS... investing there is more risky than betting on horses....
we are headed that way now too...
no we aren't that bad yet, but the markets have been lame because people have lost TRUST...and i thought dubya was putting that back together....


the pentagon is supposedly gonna try to close a bunch of bases to save 50 billion over the next 20 years...we coulda saved 150 billon in the last two years by not going into Iraq..... [Roll Eyes]

i guess my demand that we continue to push ahead in stem cell research does put me on the liberal side (on that issue), but ya know what? if we don't? it'll just be another place we will lose economic ground to asia....
the carbon revoltion will be much bigger than the silicon revolution was..... if we ever get there....
i hope we can find a way to use non-fetal cells, but we have no choice but to STUDY them 'till we comprehayand a way to do the job WITHOUT them....
 
Posted by DeportTheWitless on :
 
The stem cell issue has been blown way out of proportion. I agree there is probably a better way than fetal cells... They'll figure it out in time.. till then we get to listen to heated arguements about anything but the facts of the issue... no biggie... this too shall pass
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
I don't think that owning a gun or guns is a mark of being a conservative except in the same sorts minds that justify killing doctors who might do abortions. Of all the liberals and all the conservatives I have ever known, liberals are the most likely to own guns. I don't think outside the northeast, gun ownership is very political....it's just normal.

Glass a closet liberal? Not a chance. It's just that he exhibits certain characteristics the neo ultra conservatives seem to despise, like a willingness to admit mistakes and an unwillingness to support what he sees as absurd. Once upon a time, those were characteristics conservatives prided on. they weren't always right, but they tried to be, not just claim to be. Those old fashioned conservatives were staunchly American FIRST....the party came later.

Glass..., your argument for stem cell research is based on honesty and sound reasoning, not Party loyalty, the same sort of honesty and reasoning Goldwater based his request of Nixon to step down.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
AuH2O!

something there about "better the devil you know than the devil you don't" ...

how much better he seems in retrospect, eh?
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Tex, I always admired Goldwater, just couldn't buy his concern for red hatred. I was never so concerned with those fools. He stuck to his guns, but would listen and reason. But the man was sincere and honest and an American FIRST!
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
my point: relativity and situational perspective...remember how he struck many as a knee-jerk, over-the-top right-winger? Today? Rush would call him a pantywaist if not traitor "to the cause"....
 
Posted by bdgee on :
 
Fat Rush, the doper, calls anyone not goose stepping to display their absolute loyalty to Party propaganda a communist. He (and they) forget a lotta communist died fighting Hitler's Party. Good, honest, brave, and dedicated human beings doing their best to make it a better world. Meanwhile, Fat Rush, the doper, is a draft dodger.

Goldwater was an American....1st, 2nd, 3rd, and so on 'til he died. He never would have denied another American the right to speak whatever they wanted and he didn't call them names for not agreeing with him. There used to be a lot of very partisan politicians like that, partisan, but American and honest first. Rayburn, Russell, Albert, Dirkson.....
 
Posted by timberman on :
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/opt/050822/1553b423956362ebbac325e49b555fab.html
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
good article timber...

there is a bubble forming IMO..

Putin put the ball in play with the Yukos deal..

the problem i see is that the bubble may not burst..

because oil is so basic to the economy? if they can hold the price up long enough? it will be like a self-fulfilling prophecy....

gasoline is the oonly thing that has been in short supply... oil has been flowing well, but i've noticed that there has been a series of refinery accidents over the last couple years that have steadily driven the price of gasoline up, and thye don't drop back down as much after each event...

the real problem is not enought refinery capacity and not enough free-market competition in the refinery biz/.....
 
Posted by roadrunnerv8383 on :
 
heres an interesting article on how much other countries are paying for gas.

"While higher gasoline prices in other regions of the globe won't ease the pinch on American consumers pocketbooks, U.S. drivers will surely wince knowing that some drivers in oil-producing countries, like Venezuela, pay as little as 12 cents for a gallon of gas.

Pump prices in Kuwait City for August averaged 68 cents a gallon in August, while Cairo drivers could expect to pay 59 cents per gallon during that same time.

In Saudi Arabia, where pump prices are regulated by the government, the average price of gasoline right now is 92 cents per gallon, according to Nail Al-Jubeir, a spokesperson for the Saudi Arabian consulate in Washington, D.C."


http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/19/news/international/global_gasprices/index.htm
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
and in China? they are standing in lines to get gas because the chinese refiners are SHIPPING it overseas, because they can get more money for it elsewhere..the gasoline price is govt controlled in China...
 
Posted by abram on :
 
If one day , all of America did not drive, decided to stay home , this would drive prices down. Prices are falsely inflated, for greed only. JMHO [Smile]
 
Posted by Krysten911 on :
 
hhmmm, I was once told that Republicans were Democrats with exceptions...seems to be so with this administration?
 
Posted by timberman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
good article timber...

there is a bubble forming IMO..

Putin put the ball in play with the Yukos deal..

the problem i see is that the bubble may not burst..

because oil is so basic to the economy? if they can hold the price up long enough? it will be like a self-fulfilling prophecy....

gasoline is the oonly thing that has been in short supply... oil has been flowing well, but i've noticed that there has been a series of refinery accidents over the last couple years that have steadily driven the price of gasoline up, and thye don't drop back down as much after each event...

the real problem is not enought refinery capacity and not enough free-market competition in the refinery biz/.....

Don"t forget Hugo Chavez. Him and others (including the Dems) have played there part. There is more to this problem than just the easy blame the president game.
 
Posted by Relentless. on :
 
You're still a commie

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
the Iran deal will push gas prices down to 2$ or better.. break out the big blocks again...
 
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
the Iran deal will push gas prices down to 2$ or better.. break out the big blocks again...

You got one?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i can put my hands on a 429 CJ today if i want. I've always built up small blocks cuz i can get 2000 more RPM out of them and they're 300 to 400 pounds lighter. Nothing beats a big block in 1/4 mile though
 


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