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someone please say something borderline offensive that we can debate\argue over, this place is nothing without the heated ideological debates...!! [Smile]
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the sky is green [Big Grin]

"there are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psycopath that cannot be easily duplicated by a normal, kindly family man who just comes into work every day , and has a job to do..."

Tery Pratchett in Small Gods

also from the same:

"Many feel that they have been called to the priesthood, but what they really hear is an inner voice saying, "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting, do you want to be a ploughman like your father?" "

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haha, nice, I agree with the last two statements. And if your living where I am, the sky really does have a greenish tint on summer smog days. :>
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quote:
Originally posted by kevin954:
someone please say something borderline offensive that we can debate\argue over, this place is nothing without the heated ideological debates...!! [Smile]

I can't think of anything less than offensive.

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come on Art I know ya got one in ya.........lol

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This is close to borderline offensive:

Sexual incest, between a parent and child, can sometimes be mutually beneficial to both parties.


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yeah, if you are trying to breed spotted cats... [Big Grin]

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Or lame ones.

Not breeding - just sex - promotes closeness between parent and child.

Some father daughter sexual relationships appear beneficial to both, but most induce trauma in the child to varying degrees.

Just saying we shouldn't shoot all incestuous parents - just those that cause trauma in the child.

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sorry Art, can you explain how some father-daughter sexual relationships appear beneficial to both?
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quote:
Originally posted by kevin954:
sorry Art, can you explain how some father-daughter sexual relationships appear beneficial to both?

According to research interviews, some father-daughter incestuous pairs report a long close relationship with sexual involvement that both parties said was a positve in their lives, and neither showe dany harmful efects from it.

All sexual behavior is instinctively based, where the expression of sex is modified somewhat by learning but not in its instinctive basis. A culture may dictate sex once a year only, but few will be able to learn such control - goes too much against instinct. There are positive instincts urging sex, and negative or anxiety instincts, prohibiting sex.

Women have more anxiety instincts related to sex and more frequently have frigidity than men.

Men have more aggressivity related to more positive sexual instincts, and thus are more assertive in courtship, more promiscuous than women, and also are more likely to be rapists than are women.

Some people have strong anxiety instincts related to homsexuality - and could not engage in such acts. Others lacking these instincts can be bisexual. Still others have anxiety instincts in relation to hetrosexuality and can only be homosexual.

Some parents and children have strong anxiety instincts in relation to incest, and can not do it. When a parent does not have this anxiety instinct, and thus could easily have sex with their child, two cases can result:

The child does have the anxiety instinct and is traumatized by the sex

The child does not have the anxiety instinct and is either indifferent to, or even enjoys, the sex.

Most parents and children have anxiety instincts in relation to incest, and can't do it.

Different strokes for different folks.


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dear god
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nice, very nice
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blah,blah,blah,,,,... try saying sumthin that aint plagerized..

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quote:
Originally posted by jordanreed:
blah,blah,blah,,,,... try saying sumthin that aint plagerized..

Try saying something that is true. My material is original, which anyone who knew the field would immediately recognize.

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haha, except those other times when you would just blatantly copy something off the internet an then "forget" to source it...
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this is all fine for the barnyard,
let's talk about flat tax reform instead.... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by kevin954:
haha, except those other times when you would just blatantly copy something off the internet an then "forget" to source it...

I'll try once again to explain it to you - Canadians need repeated explanation - information in the public domain, as well known and accepted, does not need to be reference-cited. This includes accepted historical data, "such as Columbus landed on the US soil in 1492". The mathematical historical material I presented, that you refer to, that I gave without references, was of this nature. There were no original ideas in this material, mine or anyone else's, just a chronology of events in mathematical development.

Also, If I say something about Einstein's theroy of relativity, I need not cite a paper by Einstein as a reference. In the public domain.

Look at my posts on gun control. I do not cite references for much of the data I posted - no need to.

I have not plagerized in my posts, and have posted ideas that are original, which are so brilliant that others assume are from other sources that I stole from, as was my post on sexual instincts.


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We'll call this group NAFDLA

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Yeah, you might be able to get away with not refrencing FACTs in the public domain. But, like it or not, you did plagerize an entire article. That article might have been stating historical facts or a timeline of events, but if you think it is acceptable to copy ENTIRE articles (NOT FACTS or information in the public domain), you have no idea what the **** your talking about.

Well, more than likely, its not a matter of not knowing what the **** your talking about, its more like yankee pride.

Find those WMDs yet??? Ahhh, thought so...

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Not true. I am beginning to believe you are unable to tell the truth - you insist on slanting, distorting and spinning. You must rigidly fit everything into your fixed preconceptions or you just can't seem to deal with it.

I excerpted some historical facts, that are in the public domain, from an article - I did not plagerize the whole article. Could have gotten these historical facts from anyone of many different sources - this is not original material, and, I repeat, its availablility from many different sources is what puts it in the public domain and thus makes referencing it unneccessary.

Many different history books say Columbus came to america in 1492. If I say Columbus came to America in 1492 you would say I plagerized this information since I did not reference my source.

Nonsense.


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such as Columbus landed on the US soil in 1492"

well Art, the US didn't exist until oh 350+ years later,

AND,

in 1492?

he landed on San Salvidor, Cuba, and Hispanola...
he wrecked the Santa Maria and was forced to return without landing on the mainland that trip...

seems he never did land on what would eventually be US soil....Central and South America....

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"You must rigidly fit everything into your fixed preconceptions or you just can't seem to deal with it."

Look in the mirror. Please.


"I excerpted some historical facts, that are in the public domain, from an article - I did not plagerize the whole article."

No, you quite litterally copied and pasted paragraphs of the article (if not the whole article, I dont think you palgerized the title [Razz] ), not 'the facts'.

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this page is fun for conspiricy theorists...

http://www.reformation.org/columbus-myth-exposed.html

says Cabot discovered the North American mainland, in 1494 and that was 4 years BEFORE Columbus even got to the central american mainland, but the Pope gave Spain the whole deal any way... [Big Grin]
ya just gotta love the "spin" (it's what makes the world go 'round...

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First off, any red blooded american knows full well this was always U.S. soil.
Second, who cares what anglo saxon claims discovery of soil that would soon be inhabited by free men.
Third, everyone with a functioning brain knows asiatic nomads were the first humans to walk upon U.S. soil.

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yeah, asiatic nomads that came over from indonesia across the south pacific were first, then the ones that came over thru siberia were second..


how they hangin DQR? been awhile...

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Been well glass, having computer problems due to my refusal to buy another one every two years. But other than that, happier than I have ever been.
How've you been? As you said, some time has elapsed since we last conversed.

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i was just gettin' ready to shut down...
hmmm.. i see the pentagon is thinking about reducing troops in Iraq, would be nice if we can pull it off...hope they don't rush it...

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It has been the plan all along.
We pull out when they can handle the situation.
I am sure you have noticed the recently unpublished news of common Iraqi business owners shooting "insurgents" during an attack.
At this point all we are there to do is to be a security blanket.
They really can do it on their own they just needed someone to show them they could.
Ever known an abused woman, child, or even pet for that matter?
Same psychology really.
They (Iraqi populous) were convinced of their own inability for so long the believed it.
They are now starting to believe in their ability... therefore we can start to leave.

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i hope that is the case DQR,

i also hope they apreciate what we did enough to help with the tab...

Tom Delay? not good...
the dogs may be just about caguht up to the fox on him...

i'm looking at another serious t'storm day today..

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Glassman.....such as Columbus landed on the US soil in 1492"

well Art, the US didn't exist until oh 350+ years later,

AND,

in 1492?

he landed on San Salvidor, Cuba, and Hispanola...


Art: Yes, I corrected myself before you corrected me - see the thread. Columbus landed in America - the history books say Columbus discovered America in 1492, which we know is not true - Vikings were here before.

BTW America includes Central and South America, so my statement, before your correction of it, is correct. NIt...nit...nit....nit,....pick.


I can't deal with such crap - my previous post deleted, Kevin's and your nonsense - out of here.

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DQR
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First off, any red blooded american knows full well this was always U.S. soil.
that's preposterous.

my favorite detail about columbus is how the natives came out in canoes to greet his ship, bearing gifts. he wrote back to his investors saying the natives were very docile and generous and would be EASY TO CONQUER and enslave.

these were the first ideas of our glorious white man, at the inception of the "free world".. it's been an orwellian nightmare from the get-go.

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definitely unusual (&vaguely entertaining) to see art kick up a hissy fit.. (thought he even sounded a little choked up..) and storm off. think i actually heard a door slam.
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quote:
my favorite detail about columbus is how the natives came out in canoes to greet his ship, bearing gifts. he wrote back to his investors saying the natives were very docile and generous and would be EASY TO CONQUER and enslave.

these were the first ideas of our glorious white man, at the inception of the "free world".. it's been an orwellian nightmare from the get-go.

the united takes of america
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"I can't deal with such crap - my previous post deleted, Kevin's and your nonsense - out of here."

hissy fit indeed, he IS smart so he's probably not used to be being beaten like that...

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i read an article that over 300,000 protesters marched in baghdad this weekend telling the US to get out now.
couple of things to consider, we are not welcome, for the first time they have been able to protest without getting killed, the iraqi police kept order not america, sounds like some progress towards peace. hopefully

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