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The greatest good for the greatest number - Hobbs/Mills instrumentalism is the guide by which governments should govern.
When individual rights take precedence over those of the masses, to help an individual at the expense of the larger number in a nation, this is immoral governing.
That is why the Patriot act is moral - minor inconvenience of some that will save others' lives and injuries.
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More comforting to look only at the shadows of falseness. Posts: 4402 | From: Florida | Registered: Jun 2003
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i am an investor and trader..i don't "hate" the system, i just try to see it for what it IS, what it could be, and what i hope it can become...
a corporation owned farm doesn't mean it's not a family corp.
many landowners are "leasing" their cropland to big corps....
big corps are using our tax dollars to "fund" research too...which they promptly patent and "steal" from the tax payers...
big joke? VIOX is safe again! YEA! too bad for all you trial lawyers...
i recently looked at the numbers (at least what's easily available) on research dollars versus advertising dollars on pharmaceutical co's...sad state of affairs...
wow! YOUR health insurance is paying for MY favorite racecar drivers 10million$ plus yearly expenses at NASCAR....and that's just the tip.....
but it's the lawsuits that are destroying affordable healthcare?
check this out....
there are also hints that the next big step in halth-care finances will be to separate it from the employers responsibilities and put it on each individuals' expense sheet...(GM's single largest expense is healthcare) well, we can't all afford 600$ a month per especially, young singles....BUT we have a saviour....Senator Clinton said on TV Sunday that she thinks the Natl. Guard and the Reserves should INCREASE their health benefits cuz its a shame how bad they are..(i agree) well if you want to recruit more troops......
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You are right on a number of points. Thats why I use natural health medicines, and even have a home business with them. New study from BYU shows they eradicate cancer cells up to 92%.
Not bad the distilled oil of a plant eh? : )
But, since we no longer are in charge of our government, but it is controlled by those who fund their elections, there is no much we can do.
Everyone has an agenda... and as for the Patriot Act, remember what Ben Franklin said.
Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither.
Note. During the War of 1812 when Washington DC was burning, and there were STILL people in America desiring to be under British rule again, President Madison DID NOT ever rescind the liberties of the Constitution becasue of a war.
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You dont have drug companies creating a drug like Cialis becasue only 1 or 2 poeple have ED.
Oh, and if the FDA is going to allow Vioxx back on the market to 'save' Merckk in court from being destroyed, then my government doesnt represent me at all.
But you probably knew that it doesnt represent us anyway.
Argonath
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ya gotta admit tho, the cox2 thing is sad...
the co's themselves know it's dangerous for certain people, and the FDA, who is on OUR payroll to protect US, won't go along because the current atmosphere is that the trial lawyers are the root of all evil... i've passed on an oppurtunity to sue a major health-care provider..MY CHOICE, maybe i was stupid, maybe not...we are all just people after all...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: ... and the FDA, who is on OUR payroll to protect US, won't go along because the current atmosphere is that the trial lawyers are the root of all evil...
The inaction of the FDA has nothing at all to do with the focus on the evil of trial lawyers - fuzzy thinking on your part. The FDA serves the drug companies more than the public. It is politics.
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More comforting to look only at the shadows of falseness. Posts: 4402 | From: Florida | Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: no, not fuzzy thinking...
FDA withdrawal would have made it a slam-dunk for the trial lawyers..now they'll have to work a little...
No, fuzzy thinking. Here the FDA is not overly focused on the evil of trial lawyers. The FDA is protecting the drug companies from law suits. Why is the FDA blocking importation of cheap drugs from Canada, same as sold here? To help the drug companies exploit the U.S. medical consumer.
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More than what has occurred with Vioxx and other recent drugs, (Look up the ADHD drug Androsol and what the FDA said when Canada removed it from the market becasue it was killing children) it is what the FDA has done to kill companies who have proven data on natural remedies. There is a company called SeaSilver which DID NOT make any claims, but was taken over by the FDA and ATF becasue Doctors who used the product were making claims. The ATF, without a warrant or Court Order siezed all records, computers, and stopped the production process. After threats of a lawsuit against them (the ATF), they finally released the company after finding no evidence, or making any charges against them. The damage was done though, since their name was sullied, and they are just now trying to bring their reputation back.
My philosophy is that when the government controld ANY function of administration, it is open to corruption. The government should make the laws, and prosecute the offenders... not decide due to an agenda what is ok and what is not.
Argonath
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quote:Originally posted by DrWho: More than what has occurred with Vioxx and other recent drugs, (Look up the ADHD drug Androsol and what the FDA said when Canada removed it from the market becasue it was killing children) it is what the FDA has done to kill companies who have proven data on natural remedies.
The FDA, at the urging of the drug companies, would love to make all vitamins, herbs, and other natural substances, available only by prescription.
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