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keithsan
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Relax G-man, this is the fodder we listen too. kerry has said he would pull troops out, that he would put more in. that he would've invaded without WMD, that he would've left Sadam in power......
he would form a coalition, a bigger one that includes france (obnoxiously) ya!
what are we gonna do pay them...

I watched Kerry say these things or read them, he hasnt even motivated his base, they dont know where he stands, hell, i dont and i can usually figure this crap out.
(i dont do what kerry says bush did, or what bush says kerry did)

I think we will be out in a year to 2 with either as pres. when bush wins (leaning that way now) i think he will flaten fallujah, as he should've done in the beginning


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Well its kind of hard to figure out what Kerry is saying in any one day. Last night on the David Letterman show he said this, "(Letterman)So if your were president 3 years ago would we be in Iraq". Kerry "no". This after numerous times he previously said for example, disarming Saddam was the best thing we could have done, the world is a safer place now that Saddam has been captured ect. ect. Having said that on the Letterman show, I guess he thinks, yesturday anyhow, that we would have been better off. The truth is I just watched all these clips of him saying each one of these things and more. You know, its a wonder that all Dems (like Kerry) are not on Prozac the way that gripe and moan in such a depressing manner. They have no positive attitude at all.
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Bush has done alot of things i disagree with,but putting kerry in there,would be like the old movie the seven faces of eve.IMHO
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you guys are seeing edited CLIPS, not full statements...i'll see if i can find some speeches in print to show you...

he has always said he would still vote to grant the president the authority....

that is not the same as voting for war....

once again i'm just trying to make sure we hear what they are saying...i just watched NBC do the edit thing again...they said the same thing you guys are ....

BUT that's not what Kerry is saying, and i wonder why even the supposedly liberal stations misquote him....

granting the president the AUTHORITY is VERY different from voting to go......

this has been misquoted so many times, i don't know if anybody will ever get it right......

the president NEEDED a united country behind him for the UN to be brought into it....
disagreeing with the president's methods is not flip-flopping.....

this isn't a freaking checkers game....


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yesterdays speech by Kerry at NYU

Let me put it plainly: The President’s policy in Iraq has not strengthened our national security. It has weakened it.

Two years ago, Congress was right to give the President the authority to use force to hold Saddam Hussein accountable. This President… any President… would have needed the threat of force to act effectively. This President misused that authority.

The power entrusted to the President gave him a strong hand to play in the international community. The idea was simple. We would get the weapons inspectors back in to verify whether or not Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. And we would convince the world to speak with one voice to Saddam: disarm or be disarmed.

A month before the war, President Bush told the nation: “If we have to act, we will take every precaution that is possible. We will plan carefully. We will act with the full power of the United States military. We will act with allies at our side and we will prevail.” He said that military action wasn’t “unavoidable.”

this is how i heard it from the beginning too.....

the "liberal" media is doing a lot of misquoting too, and it concerns me....


forgot to supply a link...
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_0920.html


consider who owns the "supposedly liberal" media....
Disney HMMMM
GE..... up a little lately.....

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The liberal stations are running from there own positions since they got caught with there hand in the cookie jar aka using the news to promote the Dems agenda. And I have seen the full clips the past months and read it in print. They basicly say the samething.
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Look glass you and dar go vote for Kerry. And thats ok. I'll vote for Bush. That also ok. That simply but honorably makes us Americans. You won't change my mind and I know by the number of topics you've posted that I won't change yours. So did you have any flooding from Ivan your way? How bout that Greenspan rasing interest rates.

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no, no flooding and not even any rain. thanks for asking...

all i really want out this is for everybody to get off their butts and vote.....

if the whole world sees us participating in our OWN democracy, maybe that will make things easier...

and i want more honesty out of all the politicians....
i have no doubts that we will be sending more troops to Iraq one way or another....


that reminds me, if Kate is out there?
how's your hand????

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thanks for the honest information from kerrys people..... pick the most biased source why dont you.

why dont you go get bushes position from his web sites......


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i do keith...
check it out.....
http://www.whitehouse.org/

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quote:
Originally posted by keithsan:
thanks for the honest information from kerrys people..... pick the most biased source why dont you.

why dont you go get bushes position from his web sites......


LOL keith,the most biased sources? i guess Kerry doesn't know what he said.....
did you like the whitehouse.org site????i especially like the western white house page...


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yes-LOL does his site include ALL interviews and speaches.........

no LOL, these guys are combating hard to avoid the flip flop label as they should. I dont lie though....he's a flipper flopper. Just from speaches and interviews i've read or seen.


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i haven't read his whole site Keith..LOL
i'm not a Kerry supporter....
i know it sounds like it, but that's what's been happening since i've been trying to find some truth...
the spin doctors are RUNNING the world, and everybody wants to have their politics fast-food style...
we deserve what we get.
if people DD'ed their vote as much as they did their stock......
well OK, we deserve what we get....LOL

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speaking of the spin doctors, Bill O'Reilly is supposed to have bush on this week, but, i havent heard anything lately. I'm assuming he will be tough on him. If not, he's done. I think he's a whackjob anyways but, his interviews can be revealing.......


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yeah, i will definitely watch that...i'd like to see Kerry go on the no spin zone too
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ya dont think kerry will though.....

michael moore did I have to give him credit for that. went on the fox website and found no news about it though.....heard it on way home from work other day, on o'reillys radio show (no I dont listen) (usually)


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i NEVER log onto their(Fox's) web-site..LOL

it's bad enough the cable comapny can probably tell i'm watching, but those web site numbers give them credibilty...LOL

i been noticing that on Fox they have mostly MEN pumping Bush...
on CNN they have mostly WOMEN in the 30-40yr range (being polite here) pumping Bush...
i wonder why they are doing that??????LOL


you know, i just found out a nother reason i like Texas...it's illegal for CORPs to donate to politicians there...i like that, i want to see the Feds go to ONLY REGISTERED VOTERS that might help a little

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Texas executes everyone thats goood but scares me a little..... I play rough.

I only logged on to find the time for the bush interview.....


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I'm still lurking out here, glassman! I just have more important things, like playing yahoo games, than making my head spin with some of these discussions! I'll just keep reading them, until I can't stand it anymore, and then I'll say something! My hand is healing very well, thank you for asking! Still a bit stiff, but I have almost full use back again! I still haven't used the push mower though! The memories are still fresh in my mind!
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Kate, i am glad to hear that you are getting better.... i included you in my prayers...

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Thankyou; I appreciate the prayers! I have been praising God I still have my fingertips, after talking to the doctors and nurses in the emergency room that day, because they said over 90 percent of the people who have those accidents, loose them! I stuck my gloves on, five minutes before, and that saved my fingers! I guess God knows how much I love my knitting and crocheting, and typing!
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if it was that bad, then the best thing you can do is to keep typing and knitting and crocheting as much as you can....
even if it hurts, it gets the blood flowing...
best wishes..

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Kate may the lord bless you and ease your pain.
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Originally posted by Kate:
Thankyou; I appreciate the prayers! I have been praising God I still have my fingertips, after talking to the doctors and nurses in the emergency room that day, because they said over 90 percent of the people who have those accidents, loose them! I stuck my gloves on, five minutes before, and that saved my fingers! I guess God knows how much I love my knitting and crocheting, and typing!


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kate, i did not know, my wishes are with you.
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Thanks everybody!
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