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Pat427
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THIS BICKERING IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL ON JUST ABOUT ALL THESE BOARDS! ALLSTOCKS USED TO BE A PLACE TO GET AWAY FROM THE BS ON RB, BUT NOW ITS JUST THE SAME.. ADMIN CAN WE GET SOME RELIEF?
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i rarely have bickering in the stocks i play or watch.......

there are valid reasons for this.


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what an interesting idea.

even on craig's list there are choices that a user can click on to report:
[miscategorized] [prohibited] [spam] [discussion] [best of]

it sure would give more control over the content of htis board and assuring it's not abused.
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IF enough people clicked on a post it might just greyout to black
VAN

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that's an interesting thought too Van.
And only one click per person allowed; eventually the thread blacks itself out.

don't know about others, but it is so assaulting to wake up in the morning and be hit in the face with crass, rude, all CAPS posts that serve no purpose whatsoever other than to reshout the same negativity over and over.

i am absolutely all for dissenting opinions, and i realize not everybody is a skilled typist, and i try to stay out of the politics and have an open mind, but when it becomes offensive, i wish i had a choice.

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We are working on it.
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The only downside would be that people would probably ignore people with opposing views! This will make peole more likely to FALL IN LOVE with a stock because they will only see posts of people who agree with them.
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it would be nice to get feedback from lurkers...
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Agree with osubucks. It's too easy for newbies and others to get sucked in by either pumpers or bashers. Dissenting facts and opinions lend more objectivity. Besides, Allstocks seems to be able to do a good job as it is.
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quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Agree with osubucks. It's too easy for newbies and others to get sucked in by either pumpers or bashers. Dissenting facts and opinions lend more objectivity.

Agree as well. The majority of useless all-caps posting I've seen is people attacking those with opposing views. Rather than provide objective arguments for their opinions, these people typically resort to name calling and turd slinging in some weird attempt to promote their favorite stock pick.

Since the purpose of a message forum is the exchange of ideas, information, and opinions, I think a more useful option to keep the discussions civil is an IP ban for these users whose only purpose is to 'yell' and call people names. The ability to block posts from specific users is tempting, but would probably be used mostly to weed out dissenting opinions rather than the true flame-throwers on the board.

-R


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Why doesn't it surprise me that a certain poster does not want an 'ignore feature'???

Hmmmmmm...

"Dissenting views"... PLEASE GIVE US AN IGNORE BUTTON, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

See, now ask yourselves, for the people who don't want an ignore button, WHY???

I WOULD LIKE ALLSTOCKS TO HAVE THIS FEATURE.

-John-


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LOL byrd...
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OSBucks wrote:

"The only downside would be that people would probably ignore people with opposing views! This will make peole more likely to FALL IN LOVE with a stock because they will only see posts of people who agree with them."

So I guess Newbies are to "stupid" to save themselves from 'falling in love with a stock'? Why is it that you always seem to be trying to *protect* investors from themselves?

SO WHAT IF SOMEONE FALLS IN LOVE WITH A STOCK?!? Who cares?!

Re-read OSbucks statement above. The ONLY DRAW BACK TO AN IGNORE FEATURE IS THAT PEOPLE MAY FALL IN LOVE WITH A STOCK?!

Well FOR YOUR O-N-E 'DRAWBACK', there are about FIVE pluses for having an ignore feature.

1. It will cut down on people skimming through posts, trying to NOT read from posters they don't like/care for. We save TIME.

2. It will allow people to cut-out those who do not seem to 'fit' into that particular persons way of thinking... Again, if I do not like you or what you have said previously, I can ignore you and now you go away from ME. SAVES TIME.

3. There will be LESS FIGHTS AND ARGUMENTS. This is pretty simple and easy to see why.

4. MUCH GREATER CHOICE IN FLIXIBLITY. I don't have to read posts from people I don't care for reading anyways.

5. The board will be more tailored to the 'individual', as we can set our preferences.

I see FIVE good points for each ONE bad point...

-John-


[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]


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Robin O,

Honestly, I categorize your posts as "dissenting opinion" and I rarely take offense to them. Fine, arguments take up space, but I think it's important to argue both sides.
But do you really, really see U4's constant screaming and repetetive regurgitation as constructive? Or even civil? Constructive in the least? Or by giving us a choice would it at least FORCE HIM or posters like him to state their opinions in a civil manner?

And when it really gets vulgar, sheesh- I wouldn't want to recommend this board to my mother and have her reading some of the vulgarities that fly.

I think our moderators practice good judgement. But I think a little self-policing could assist them.

At least it would bring repetitively offensive posters to the attention of our moderators so that a judgement call could be made there.

I don't mind what is said, but how it is said.
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Originally posted by RobinO:
Agree as well. The majority of useless all-caps posting I've seen is people attacking those with opposing views. Rather than provide objective arguments for their opinions, these people typically resort to name calling and turd slinging in some weird attempt to promote their favorite stock pick.

Since the purpose of a message forum is the exchange of ideas, information, and opinions, I think a more useful option to keep the discussions civil is an IP ban for these users whose only purpose is to 'yell' and call people names. The ability to block posts from specific users is tempting, but would probably be used mostly to weed out dissenting opinions rather than the true flame-throwers on the board.
-R



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quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
OSBucks wrote:

"The only downside would be that people would probably ignore people with opposing views! This will make peole more likely to FALL IN LOVE with a stock because they will only see posts of people who agree with them."

So I guess Newbies are to "stupid" to save themselves from 'falling in love with a stock'? Why is it that you always seem to be trying to *protect* investors from themselves?

SO WHAT IF SOMEONE FALLS IN LOVE WITH A STOCK?!? Who cares?!

Re-read OSbucks statement above. The ONLY DRAW BACK TO AN IGNORE FEATURE IS THAT PEOPLE MAY FALL IN LOVE WITH A STOCK?!

And Wallace and Glassman seem to back OSbucks up on this statement.

Well FOR YOUR O-N-E 'DRAWBACK', there are about FIVE pluses for having an ignore feature.

1. It will cut down on people skimming through posts, trying to NOT read from posters they don't like/care for. We save TIME.

2. It will allow people to cut-out those who do not seem to 'fit' into that particular persons way of thinking... Again, if I do not like you or what you have said previously, I can ignore you and now you go away from ME. SAVES TIME.

3. There will be LESS FIGHTS AND ARGUMENTS. This is pretty simple and easy to see why.

4. MUCH GREATER CHOICE IN FLIXIBLITY. I don't have to read posts from people I don't care for reading anyways.

5. The board will be more tailored to the 'individual', as we can set our preferences.

I see FIVE good points for each ONE bad point...

-John-


[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]



you have a lot nerve implying i am saying anything byrturd.
there have been very few people banned from this board that i am aware of, even fewer banned twice, but you are GRAND PRIZE WINNER THRICE byrd...LOL you don't have the insight to try to put me in the same group as anybody else ...

i would like to see how many people are blocking someone, you seem to have a problem comprehending MY statements...

i am no fan of censorship...

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 26, 2004).]


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furthermore, i would also LIKE to see a "hit count" for individual threads...

but i realise these thing take time to set up...


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I like that "hit count" for individual threads as well...now, that IS a good idea. IMHO
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Install an ignore feature. I was sickened by the QBID the first couple of months after I found allstocks. Asked if allstocks had that feature way back then. Unfortunately it didn't. I had to read miles of chocolate pickle crap, and it hasn't gotten much better, maybe worse.



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Glassman, My mistake...

I looked back over your posts and re-edited mine. You should not have been 'lumped' togther. That was my mistake and error on that part.

It's been corrected.


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"GRAND PRIZE WINNER THRICE"

Sadly I have used up my chances now of ever winning Publishers Clearing House...


-Byrd-


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I would like the ignore feature very much. You should be able to have different or negative opinions posted on each stock, but some people just keep cramming it down your throats continuously. This in turn causes someone to post a positive opinion to offset the negatives and then before you know it, a argument has started. It takes up alot more time to read through the posts then, trying to get something worth reading. This site used to be a great place to come for information (not quite even a year ago), but it compares to any other chat room as of late. Yes, bring on the ignore feature and bring this site back to the way it once was.
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I am gonna ignore this.See how easy this is.
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sure it's easy tony, when you don't post often and don't read the boards daily.

or when you don't have a lot of money on the line, don't care to keep up with your stocks, or don't mind asking others "what did i miss today?"

or when it's a little one-liner like you've posted. but i've come back to pages of new posts, thinking oh boy i'd better get reading i must've missed something important- when all i missed is some bickering.

me, i read. i DD. i share. i keep up. and i would love an ignore feature.

if you really USE this board, (not to insinuate you don't and not to be rude to you at all) then it can get tedious and offensive.

~BB


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quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
But do you really, really see U4's constant screaming and repetetive regurgitation as constructive? Or even civil? Constructive in the least?

Absolutely agree. U4 fits into the "worthless all-caps turd slinging" I mentioned earlier. The sad thing is that he has some valid points, he just has no clue how to present them. Even worse, his posts bring out the mouth-breathers from the other side of the fence, as I'm sure you've seen in the QBID threads. However, I think for every U4, there are 4 or 5 kommoncents type people with nothing useful to say. Both brands of mud slinger serve no purpose and should probably be dealt with in some form, if for no other reason than to save bandwidth.

However, the ignore feature is too much like a 5 year old plugging his ears and yelling LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. It doesn't actually solve anything, since the offending users are still here posting their garbage. Removing the users who do nothing but fling pooh is the only reasonable option in my opinion.

-R

[This message has been edited by RobinO (edited September 26, 2004).]


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by RobinO:
[B] Absolutely agree. U4 fits into the "worthless all-caps turd slinging" I mentioned earlier. The sad thing is that he has some valid points, he just has no clue how to present them. Even worse, his posts bring out the mouth-breathers from the other side of the fence, as I'm sure you've seen in the QBID threads. However, I think for every U4, there are 4 or 5 kommoncents type people with nothing useful to say. Both brands of mud slinger serve no purpose and should probably be dealt with in some form, if for no other reason than to save bandwidth.

However, the ignore feature is too much like a 5 year old plugging his ears and yelling LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. It doesn't actually solve anything, since the offending users are still here posting their garbage. Removing the users who do nothing but fling pooh is the only reasonable option in my opinion.

-R

The problem with people like you is you take every opportunity to bring a stock down that has made you money for whatever reason. Great news came out this week with QBID and one of the first things to be said came from you, RobinO and U4.

Now, I have 6.75MM shares of this stock and have been in and out of QBID several times. I often wonder how much the bashing that has gone on here from purveyors such as yourself and U4 have contributed to the reduction in pps. Now I know your going to blame Frank etc but you cannot deny the FACT that negative, dissenting, and bashing opinions in the face of great news SCARES away those newbies and other investors who play pennies and understand the risk.

In other words, if you are going to sling mud, you are going to get it back. Play nice, then there is no problem. How many people on this board are sick of you (RobinO) and U4tsaf2??? Especially after last week....my investment is important to me and I don't appreciate you agreeing with a guy like U4 who has turned 180 degrees around and then you say he "has valid points." What kind of credibility does that give you especially after your negative bashing last week?? It was like clockwork with U4 and RobinO!!

Last week the 50B rumor came out.....I gave the DD on it...stating it was a rumor and why....I even called the Sec St of WA and confirmed the two different entities.....the point again you jumped on this to bash Frank without any proof!!! U4 did the same....I have seen the dilution theory to Frank doesn't deliver to Frank is scamming to you(RobinO) telling everyone "How Frank should be doing it."......Gimme a break!! I am damn tired of seeing the negativity and feel that many new people will read your post and U4's and run away...

The one fact remains: this ran up to .028 as I watched it come from nothing at .0001.....and what has changed now is more bashers and Frank is delivering but certain intrinsic negative people (RobinO and U4) and other bashers are out in force to make this stock sink!!! This to me is more disgusting that whatever I could have told you in person to your face...period. It shows a lack of judgment and scruples.

Thank you.


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"The only downside would be that people would probably ignore people with opposing views! This will make peole more likely to FALL IN LOVE with a stock because they will only see posts of people who agree with them."

Hmmm, do bashers partake in the "pumping,dumping" scheme?

I'm all for this feature. Of course it would still be good to see an opinion about a specific stock but spending countless hours reading garbage stories and useless crap should be ignored.

Saying "don't invest now, wait for a dip, be careful" is fine; but most likely you wont go into a thread to consistantely post garbage about the company unless you have 1 goal. I mean consistantely, every single day and everytime theres proof of good news.

new people need to realize who the professionals are.

Good luck allstocks.

[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited September 26, 2004).]


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I can see your point.I just don't know why people even respond and engage if it's a bunch of bs and if it's just a difference of opinion I don't have a problem with that.Yes i do all those things and have read all the insanity back and forth.Good Luck and BB may QBID soar for you.
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
sure it's easy tony, when you don't post often and don't read the boards daily.

or when you don't have a lot of money on the line, don't care to keep up with your stocks, or don't mind asking others "what did i miss today?"

or when it's a little one-liner like you've posted. but i've come back to pages of new posts, thinking oh boy i'd better get reading i must've missed something important- when all i missed is some bickering.

me, i read. i DD. i share. i keep up. and i would love an ignore feature.

if you really USE this board, (not to insinuate you don't and not to be rude to you at all) then it can get tedious and offensive.

~BB



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quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
I just don't know why people even respond and engage if it's a bunch of bs

Exactly. But seeing the BS, creates a sense of falseness, confusion from the actual truth.


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Well I think all forums should have options to ignore someone who may be offensive or just plain rude to others. I would actually like the option to remove my own reply to a post without seeing the all mighty " Sorry, but only forum Leaders are permitted to delete posts", what up with that? I got click happy yesterday and replied to a post without putting any content in and was unable to retract it. That just takes up precious space on an already cluttered board. One last thing I noticed most people do not list much in their bio, which is understandable but if you are going to be overly opinionated than at least list an e-mail so that concerned parties can address the issue off line with you, and out of the main forum area. I was an offender of this my self so I listed my Yahoo account not my military one, just incase my mail gets monitored by outside sources. "Oh crap", I just got shoved off my soapbox, I hope I did not break a hip. You all have been great… and thanks for your time.

Sincerely,

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quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
I got click happy yesterday and replied to a post without putting any content in and was unable to retract it.

What you could do if it happens again is Simply click edit and place a dot in it.

than at least list an e-mail so that concerned parties can address the issue off line with you,[/QUOTE]


Oh dear lord. Last thing someone would want showing is their email address if someone disagrees with them. Way to many viruses out there to spread!


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1BT,

Good one, I had not even thought about the viruses thing, even thought I have never personally had one mainly because I do not open .exe files and the such. But there are some pretty crafty 17 year olds out there who can crash military systems so no ones home/work e-mail's are ever truly safe.

Respectfully,

djseoane

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:

Oh dear lord. Last thing someone would want showing is their email address if someone disagrees with them. Way to many viruses out there to spread!

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I want a button that I can not see the 50 page threads about wore out stocks. How many times can you say we will be rich? Nothing personal just get bored with the same old stuff. Basher have their purpose I guess. If you have a true long switch positions on a stock you might take intrest in it. I was long on tpbv and found some new info. Switched positions just like managment did. Sold all and price drops 50%. I am looking at getting back in at .01.
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Possibly the abilty of a "viewer" to ignore specific posters might be doable?
This would be a passive solution not affecting anyone else.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 26, 2004).]


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Pro Baords for CMKX has a button to send Private Messages to people, perhaps maybe this is another feature we can get?

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DJSONE, we did have e-mail posted in the profiles, but somebody was posting they had a friend up in Canada about this time last year that said they SAW diamonds coming out of the ground...
needless to say it wasn't true, and a lot of really bad things got said...Allstocks removed the e-mail addresses after that incident..CMKX has beeen a big problem here for a long time...

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