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Posted by Pat427 on :

THIS BICKERING IS GETTING OUT OF CONTROL ON JUST ABOUT ALL THESE BOARDS! ALLSTOCKS USED TO BE A PLACE TO GET AWAY FROM THE BS ON RB, BUT NOW ITS JUST THE SAME.. ADMIN CAN WE GET SOME RELIEF?

Posted by keithsan on :

i rarely have bickering in the stocks i play or watch.......

there are valid reasons for this.

Posted by user095263 on :

what an interesting idea.

even on craig's list there are choices that a user can click on to report:
[miscategorized] [prohibited] [spam] [discussion] [best of]

it sure would give more control over the content of htis board and assuring it's not abused.
~BB

Posted by VNGNTN1 on :

IF enough people clicked on a post it might just greyout to black
VAN

Posted by user095263 on :

that's an interesting thought too Van.
And only one click per person allowed; eventually the thread blacks itself out.

don't know about others, but it is so assaulting to wake up in the morning and be hit in the face with crass, rude, all CAPS posts that serve no purpose whatsoever other than to reshout the same negativity over and over.

i am absolutely all for dissenting opinions, and i realize not everybody is a skilled typist, and i try to stay out of the politics and have an open mind, but when it becomes offensive, i wish i had a choice.

~BB

Posted by Allstocks on :

We are working on it.

Posted by osubucks30 on :

The only downside would be that people would probably ignore people with opposing views! This will make peole more likely to FALL IN LOVE with a stock because they will only see posts of people who agree with them.

Posted by glassman on :

it would be nice to get feedback from lurkers...

Posted by Wallace#1 on :

Agree with osubucks. It's too easy for newbies and others to get sucked in by either pumpers or bashers. Dissenting facts and opinions lend more objectivity. Besides, Allstocks seems to be able to do a good job as it is.

Posted by RobinO on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Agree with osubucks. It's too easy for newbies and others to get sucked in by either pumpers or bashers. Dissenting facts and opinions lend more objectivity.

Agree as well. The majority of useless all-caps posting I've seen is people attacking those with opposing views. Rather than provide objective arguments for their opinions, these people typically resort to name calling and turd slinging in some weird attempt to promote their favorite stock pick.

Since the purpose of a message forum is the exchange of ideas, information, and opinions, I think a more useful option to keep the discussions civil is an IP ban for these users whose only purpose is to 'yell' and call people names. The ability to block posts from specific users is tempting, but would probably be used mostly to weed out dissenting opinions rather than the true flame-throwers on the board.

-R

Posted by JBCak47 on :

Why doesn't it surprise me that a certain poster does not want an 'ignore feature'???

Hmmmmmm...

"Dissenting views"... PLEASE GIVE US AN IGNORE BUTTON, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

See, now ask yourselves, for the people who don't want an ignore button, WHY???

I WOULD LIKE ALLSTOCKS TO HAVE THIS FEATURE.

-John-

Posted by glassman on :

LOL byrd...

Posted by JBCak47 on :

OSBucks wrote:

"The only downside would be that people would probably ignore people with opposing views! This will make peole more likely to FALL IN LOVE with a stock because they will only see posts of people who agree with them."

So I guess Newbies are to "stupid" to save themselves from 'falling in love with a stock'? Why is it that you always seem to be trying to *protect* investors from themselves?

SO WHAT IF SOMEONE FALLS IN LOVE WITH A STOCK?!? Who cares?!

Re-read OSbucks statement above. The ONLY DRAW BACK TO AN IGNORE FEATURE IS THAT PEOPLE MAY FALL IN LOVE WITH A STOCK?!

Well FOR YOUR O-N-E 'DRAWBACK', there are about FIVE pluses for having an ignore feature.

1. It will cut down on people skimming through posts, trying to NOT read from posters they don't like/care for. We save TIME.

2. It will allow people to cut-out those who do not seem to 'fit' into that particular persons way of thinking... Again, if I do not like you or what you have said previously, I can ignore you and now you go away from ME. SAVES TIME.

3. There will be LESS FIGHTS AND ARGUMENTS. This is pretty simple and easy to see why.

4. MUCH GREATER CHOICE IN FLIXIBLITY. I don't have to read posts from people I don't care for reading anyways.

5. The board will be more tailored to the 'individual', as we can set our preferences.

I see FIVE good points for each ONE bad point...

-John-

[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by user095263 on :

Robin O,

Honestly, I categorize your posts as "dissenting opinion" and I rarely take offense to them. Fine, arguments take up space, but I think it's important to argue both sides.
But do you really, really see U4's constant screaming and repetetive regurgitation as constructive? Or even civil? Constructive in the least? Or by giving us a choice would it at least FORCE HIM or posters like him to state their opinions in a civil manner?

And when it really gets vulgar, sheesh- I wouldn't want to recommend this board to my mother and have her reading some of the vulgarities that fly.

I think our moderators practice good judgement. But I think a little self-policing could assist them.

At least it would bring repetitively offensive posters to the attention of our moderators so that a judgement call could be made there.

I don't mind what is said, but how it is said.
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Agree as well. The majority of useless all-caps posting I've seen is people attacking those with opposing views. Rather than provide objective arguments for their opinions, these people typically resort to name calling and turd slinging in some weird attempt to promote their favorite stock pick.
Since the purpose of a message forum is the exchange of ideas, information, and opinions, I think a more useful option to keep the discussions civil is an IP ban for these users whose only purpose is to 'yell' and call people names. The ability to block posts from specific users is tempting, but would probably be used mostly to weed out dissenting opinions rather than the true flame-throwers on the board.
-R

Posted by glassman on :

quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
OSBucks wrote:
"The only downside would be that people would probably ignore people with opposing views! This will make peole more likely to FALL IN LOVE with a stock because they will only see posts of people who agree with them."
So I guess Newbies are to "stupid" to save themselves from 'falling in love with a stock'? Why is it that you always seem to be trying to *protect* investors from themselves?
SO WHAT IF SOMEONE FALLS IN LOVE WITH A STOCK?!? Who cares?!
Re-read OSbucks statement above. The ONLY DRAW BACK TO AN IGNORE FEATURE IS THAT PEOPLE MAY FALL IN LOVE WITH A STOCK?!
And Wallace and Glassman seem to back OSbucks up on this statement.
Well FOR YOUR O-N-E 'DRAWBACK', there are about FIVE pluses for having an ignore feature.
1. It will cut down on people skimming through posts, trying to NOT read from posters they don't like/care for. We save TIME.
2. It will allow people to cut-out those who do not seem to 'fit' into that particular persons way of thinking... Again, if I do not like you or what you have said previously, I can ignore you and now you go away from ME. SAVES TIME.
3. There will be LESS FIGHTS AND ARGUMENTS. This is pretty simple and easy to see why.
4. MUCH GREATER CHOICE IN FLIXIBLITY. I don't have to read posts from people I don't care for reading anyways.
5. The board will be more tailored to the 'individual', as we can set our preferences.
I see FIVE good points for each ONE bad point...
-John-

[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]

you have a lot nerve implying i am saying anything byrturd.
there have been very few people banned from this board that i am aware of, even fewer banned twice, but you are GRAND PRIZE WINNER THRICE byrd...LOL you don't have the insight to try to put me in the same group as anybody else ...

i would like to see how many people are blocking someone, you seem to have a problem comprehending MY statements...

i am no fan of censorship...

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by glassman on :

furthermore, i would also LIKE to see a "hit count" for individual threads...

but i realise these thing take time to set up...

Posted by Wallace#1 on :

I like that "hit count" for individual threads as well...now, that IS a good idea. IMHO

Posted by will on :

Install an ignore feature. I was sickened by the QBID the first couple of months after I found allstocks. Asked if allstocks had that feature way back then. Unfortunately it didn't. I had to read miles of chocolate pickle crap, and it hasn't gotten much better, maybe worse.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

Glassman, My mistake...

I looked back over your posts and re-edited mine. You should not have been 'lumped' togther. That was my mistake and error on that part.

It's been corrected.

Posted by JBCak47 on :

"GRAND PRIZE WINNER THRICE"

Sadly I have used up my chances now of ever winning Publishers Clearing House...

-Byrd-

Posted by slpj1960 on :

I would like the ignore feature very much. You should be able to have different or negative opinions posted on each stock, but some people just keep cramming it down your throats continuously. This in turn causes someone to post a positive opinion to offset the negatives and then before you know it, a argument has started. It takes up alot more time to read through the posts then, trying to get something worth reading. This site used to be a great place to come for information (not quite even a year ago), but it compares to any other chat room as of late. Yes, bring on the ignore feature and bring this site back to the way it once was.

Posted by tigertony on :

I am gonna ignore this.See how easy this is.

Posted by user095263 on :

sure it's easy tony, when you don't post often and don't read the boards daily.

or when you don't have a lot of money on the line, don't care to keep up with your stocks, or don't mind asking others "what did i miss today?"

or when it's a little one-liner like you've posted. but i've come back to pages of new posts, thinking oh boy i'd better get reading i must've missed something important- when all i missed is some bickering.

me, i read. i DD. i share. i keep up. and i would love an ignore feature.

if you really USE this board, (not to insinuate you don't and not to be rude to you at all) then it can get tedious and offensive.

~BB

Posted by RobinO on :

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
But do you really, really see U4's constant screaming and repetetive regurgitation as constructive? Or even civil? Constructive in the least?

Absolutely agree. U4 fits into the "worthless all-caps turd slinging" I mentioned earlier. The sad thing is that he has some valid points, he just has no clue how to present them. Even worse, his posts bring out the mouth-breathers from the other side of the fence, as I'm sure you've seen in the QBID threads. However, I think for every U4, there are 4 or 5 kommoncents type people with nothing useful to say. Both brands of mud slinger serve no purpose and should probably be dealt with in some form, if for no other reason than to save bandwidth.

However, the ignore feature is too much like a 5 year old plugging his ears and yelling LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU. It doesn't actually solve anything, since the offending users are still here posting their garbage. Removing the users who do nothing but fling pooh is the only reasonable option in my opinion.

-R

[This message has been edited by RobinO (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by kommoncents on :

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RobinO:
[B] Absolutely agree. U4 fits into the "worthless all-caps turd slinging" I mentioned earlier. The sad thing is that he has some valid points, he just has no clue how to present them. Even worse, his posts bring out the mouth-breathers from the other side of the fence, as I'm sure you've seen in the QBID threads. However, I think for every U4, there are 4 or 5 kommoncents type people with nothing useful to say. Both brands of mud slinger serve no purpose and should probably be dealt with in some form, if for no other reason than to save bandwidth.

-R

The problem with people like you is you take every opportunity to bring a stock down that has made you money for whatever reason. Great news came out this week with QBID and one of the first things to be said came from you, RobinO and U4.

Now, I have 6.75MM shares of this stock and have been in and out of QBID several times. I often wonder how much the bashing that has gone on here from purveyors such as yourself and U4 have contributed to the reduction in pps. Now I know your going to blame Frank etc but you cannot deny the FACT that negative, dissenting, and bashing opinions in the face of great news SCARES away those newbies and other investors who play pennies and understand the risk.

In other words, if you are going to sling mud, you are going to get it back. Play nice, then there is no problem. How many people on this board are sick of you (RobinO) and U4tsaf2??? Especially after last week....my investment is important to me and I don't appreciate you agreeing with a guy like U4 who has turned 180 degrees around and then you say he "has valid points." What kind of credibility does that give you especially after your negative bashing last week?? It was like clockwork with U4 and RobinO!!

Last week the 50B rumor came out.....I gave the DD on it...stating it was a rumor and why....I even called the Sec St of WA and confirmed the two different entities.....the point again you jumped on this to bash Frank without any proof!!! U4 did the same....I have seen the dilution theory to Frank doesn't deliver to Frank is scamming to you(RobinO) telling everyone "How Frank should be doing it."......Gimme a break!! I am damn tired of seeing the negativity and feel that many new people will read your post and U4's and run away...

The one fact remains: this ran up to .028 as I watched it come from nothing at .0001.....and what has changed now is more bashers and Frank is delivering but certain intrinsic negative people (RobinO and U4) and other bashers are out in force to make this stock sink!!! This to me is more disgusting that whatever I could have told you in person to your face...period. It shows a lack of judgment and scruples.

Thank you.

Posted by BT on :

"The only downside would be that people would probably ignore people with opposing views! This will make peole more likely to FALL IN LOVE with a stock because they will only see posts of people who agree with them."

Hmmm, do bashers partake in the "pumping,dumping" scheme?

I'm all for this feature. Of course it would still be good to see an opinion about a specific stock but spending countless hours reading garbage stories and useless crap should be ignored.

Saying "don't invest now, wait for a dip, be careful" is fine; but most likely you wont go into a thread to consistantely post garbage about the company unless you have 1 goal. I mean consistantely, every single day and everytime theres proof of good news.

new people need to realize who the professionals are.

Good luck allstocks.

[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by tigertony on :

I can see your point.I just don't know why people even respond and engage if it's a bunch of bs and if it's just a difference of opinion I don't have a problem with that.Yes i do all those things and have read all the insanity back and forth.Good Luck and BB may QBID soar for you.

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
sure it's easy tony, when you don't post often and don't read the boards daily.
or when you don't have a lot of money on the line, don't care to keep up with your stocks, or don't mind asking others "what did i miss today?"
or when it's a little one-liner like you've posted. but i've come back to pages of new posts, thinking oh boy i'd better get reading i must've missed something important- when all i missed is some bickering.
me, i read. i DD. i share. i keep up. and i would love an ignore feature.
if you really USE this board, (not to insinuate you don't and not to be rude to you at all) then it can get tedious and offensive.
~BB

Posted by BT on :

quote:
Originally posted by tigertony:
I just don't know why people even respond and engage if it's a bunch of bs

Exactly. But seeing the BS, creates a sense of falseness, confusion from the actual truth.

Posted by djseoane on :

Well I think all forums should have options to ignore someone who may be offensive or just plain rude to others. I would actually like the option to remove my own reply to a post without seeing the all mighty " Sorry, but only forum Leaders are permitted to delete posts", what up with that? I got click happy yesterday and replied to a post without putting any content in and was unable to retract it. That just takes up precious space on an already cluttered board. One last thing I noticed most people do not list much in their bio, which is understandable but if you are going to be overly opinionated than at least list an e-mail so that concerned parties can address the issue off line with you, and out of the main forum area. I was an offender of this my self so I listed my Yahoo account not my military one, just incase my mail gets monitored by outside sources. "Oh crap", I just got shoved off my soapbox, I hope I did not break a hip. You all have been great… and thanks for your time.

Sincerely,

djseoane

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It's never a bad day if you can wake and tell someone about it.

Posted by BT on :

quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
I got click happy yesterday and replied to a post without putting any content in and was unable to retract it.

What you could do if it happens again is Simply click edit and place a dot in it.

than at least list an e-mail so that concerned parties can address the issue off line with you,[/QUOTE]

Oh dear lord. Last thing someone would want showing is their email address if someone disagrees with them. Way to many viruses out there to spread!

Posted by djseoane on :

1BT,

Good one, I had not even thought about the viruses thing, even thought I have never personally had one mainly because I do not open .exe files and the such. But there are some pretty crafty 17 year olds out there who can crash military systems so no ones home/work e-mail's are ever truly safe.

Respectfully,

djseoane

quote:
Originally posted by 1BigTip:

Oh dear lord. Last thing someone would want showing is their email address if someone disagrees with them. Way to many viruses out there to spread!

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It's never a bad day if you can wake and tell someone about it.

Posted by DOUBLE L on :

I want a button that I can not see the 50 page threads about wore out stocks. How many times can you say we will be rich? Nothing personal just get bored with the same old stuff. Basher have their purpose I guess. If you have a true long switch positions on a stock you might take intrest in it. I was long on tpbv and found some new info. Switched positions just like managment did. Sold all and price drops 50%. I am looking at getting back in at .01.

Posted by VNGNTN1 on :

MODERATORS
Possibly the abilty of a "viewer" to ignore specific posters might be doable?
This would be a passive solution not affecting anyone else.
VAN

[This message has been edited by VNGNTN1 (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by JBCak47 on :

Pro Baords for CMKX has a button to send Private Messages to people, perhaps maybe this is another feature we can get?

-Byrd-

Posted by glassman on :

DJSONE, we did have e-mail posted in the profiles, but somebody was posting they had a friend up in Canada about this time last year that said they SAW diamonds coming out of the ground...
needless to say it wasn't true, and a lot of really bad things got said...Allstocks removed the e-mail addresses after that incident..CMKX has beeen a big problem here for a long time...

Posted by JBCak47 on :

"CMKX has beeen a big problem here for a long time..."

Do you EVER stop bashing this stock?

Posted by djseoane on :

Glassman,

I do not know anything about a Canadian Diamond Mine, but that sounds funny as hell that any one would believe such a thing. Buy I do not think this web site is blocking peoples e-mail address if they chose to list it. Check my profile and see if mine comes up, I could be wrong. But let me say this you never really know who is on the other end of the net, so I am not, Repeat Not, trying to convince anyone who does not feel comfortable posting their e-mail to do so.

Respectfully,

djseoane

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
DJSONE, we did have e-mail posted in the profiles, but somebody was posting they had a friend up in Canada about this time last year that said they SAW diamonds coming out of the ground...
needless to say it wasn't true, and a lot of really bad things got said...Allstocks removed the e-mail addresses after that incident..CMKX has beeen a big problem here for a long time...

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Posted by glassman on :

quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
"CMKX has beeen a big problem here for a long time..."
Do you EVER stop bashing this stock?

whatsamatter JB you think i am lying???

JDSONE yor e-mail address is currently unavailable on your profile as are they all, they started that after the CMKX blow-up last year. ask about Kevin Bailey.....do a search and see if it's still in there...i watched it ALL unfold... one poster was telling us that he had inside info --he said his friend saw the diamonds coming out of the ground and yes JB, CMKX has a long history. longer than you have been here...
why do you take it so personal? i didn't bash it, i cautioned people with facts...bashng is very different and you know it..

Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :

I used to be a poster on these boards and now I am not even a lurker. The CMKX board is riddled with bashers and conversation hijackers. If allstocks offered the ignore user option; I could visit without having to bother sifting through the outright lies and garbage I don't have the time or energy to answer.

I read where some thought people would only listen to people who agree with them. I have to say so what? But seriously, over time you come to a distinct impression if someone has something worth saying or not. There are 3 or 4 posters on that board that I prefer to not even read one word they write. Two are out and out bashers probably for pay. One of the remaining Two may have something worthwhile to say, but to sift thru the rest of what he writes to get to it isn't worth the time since it is rarely something I wouldn't get elsewhere.

I hope you do add the ignore feature here. RB has it and allstocks has become RB junior. IMO-Debi

[This message has been edited by WWJD-thru-me (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by glassman on :

quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
I used to be a poster on these boards and now I am not even a lurker. The CMKX board is riddled with bashers and conversation/thread hijackers. If allstocks offered the ignore user option; I could visit without having to bother sifting through the outright lies and garbage I don't have the time or energy to answer.
I hope you do add that feature RB has it and this place has become RB junior. IMO-Debi

outright lies like what Debi????
funny this post can't be here since you aren't here...LOL

Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :

Glassman you were the one of the remaining 2 who may have something worthwhile to say but it isn't worth sifting thru the garbage you spew.

My first post in a week and you hop down my throat. You are on ignore classless one.

Posted by glassman on :

Debbi, when i came to the CMKX thread i was trying to help YOU and YOU alone...
maybe i shoulda e-mailed you instead,
i don't pretend to be anything Debi...iyam what iyam...
i am definitely a blacksheep and my rich family denounced me a long time ago...LOL i am catching them fast and will pass them soon...LOL all the way toda bank...

you warned me about cornell and you were right and i appreciatd that...
i think i let you know that too...

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by djseoane on :

GM,

I just got finished viewing about a dozen profiles and you appear to be right some home pages are listed like BB but most have nothing listed in either box, when I view my own I can see my stuff but that does not surprise me. On the other had I also viewed Pink Sheets history of CMKX and it appears this stock have been very low for a while with a few spikes here and there. If you were on any of those spikes during your buying phase than I feel sorry for you or any other investor that got hit by that. If I had purchased enough of that stock my self I would be tempted to take a good old road trip up there and have a few of those Canadians toss me some skunky beer and hand me a pick axe. Hell if they can not find any diamonds, I might be able to after enough brew-ha-ha. But on an up note when your sitting around in the bar and trying to impress the ladies you can always say you own stock In a Canadian Diamond Mine and you would not be telling a Lie...

Respectfully,

djseoane

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
whatsamatter JB you think i am lying???
JDSONE yor e-mail address is currently unavailable on your profile as are they all, they started that after the CMKX blow-up last year. ask about Kevin Bailey.....do a search and see if it's still in there...i watched it ALL unfold... one poster was telling us that he had inside info --he said his friend saw the diamonds coming out of the ground and yes JB, CMKX has a long history. longer than you have been here...
why do you take it so personal? i didn't bash it, i cautioned people with facts...bashng is very different and you know it..

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Posted by netsec on :

quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
GM,
I just got finished viewing about a dozen profiles and you appear to be right some home pages are listed like BB but most have nothing listed in either box, when I view my own I can see my stuff but that does not surprise me. On the other had I also viewed Pink Sheets history of CMKX and it appears this stock have been very low for a while with a few spikes here and there. If you were on any of those spikes during your buying phase than I feel sorry for you or any other investor that got hit by that. If I had purchased enough of that stock my self I would be tempted to take a good old road trip up there and have a few of those Canadians toss me some skunky beer and hand me a pick axe. Hell if they can not find any diamonds, I might be able to after enough brew-ha-ha. But on an up note when your sitting around in the bar and trying to impress the ladies you can always say you own stock In a Canadian Diamond Mine and you would not be telling a Lie...
Respectfully,
djseoane

Skunky beer?!?! Them's fight'in words eh!

Posted by glassman on :

never bought it, but i did think about it hard...esp when i thought i had inside info....

then Kevin Bailey fired a warning shot and i did more DD...
i just started trading these OTCBB stock about a year ago..been a real eye-opener and a lot of fun...
i have bought two pinks only...QBID and MLON

this is the 21st century HUNT and i enjoy it thouroughly...

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by djseoane on :

Hail to the Canadians, if it wasn't for you all we may have to defend a Northern and a Southern border. But the only threat you all pose in the periodic trip into our Northern States to get some better beer and try and hook up with some of our College women, who are usually to shifty for you guys to pick up on.... Heheh, LOL, ROTF...
JK man you are all great in my eyes, and our women are not really shifty just really, really picky....

Sincerely,

djseoane

quote:
Originally posted by netsec:

Skunky beer?!?! Them's fight'in words eh!

Posted by netsec on :

quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
JK man you are all great in my eyes, and our women are not really shifty just really, really picky....

...all women are picky...borders don't really matter man.

Posted by Upside on :

Not in favor of it. How hard is it to scroll right past the post you don't want to read? What's it take, 1 maybe 2 seconds? It's kind of like flipping past a channel you choose not to watch on your television. I enjoy reading all of the posts, even from those I disagree with. It just seems like it's a way to insure that you read nothing other than posts that support your own point of view. To me, that doesn't make sense, especially when it comes to investing. Don't you want to read both the pros and the cons of any particular stock?

Posted by valves on :

Not really sure you can remedy this problem. I would say that you would problably find more lurkers willing to post, if there weren't all the name calling and personal attacks. Those without confidence may be sitting on some great DD but are hesitant to post.

By the time I can add any significant DD, the hard working posters that due it and do it well, already have...thank you.

It is a lot to sift through all the bull but I just look for the posters that contribute on BOTH SIDES and focus on their posts.

Good luck with this mods and thanks to all that post what's important and make this a great site.

-Ken

Posted by YOuNgFettaChini on :

I find it highly amazing that "adults" who are sure of themselves and know what they are doing, seem to be as indecisive as a five year old child choosing between cartoons are playing outside. How is it that you care what anyone posts and take it offensively? Because you live from a false sense of identity. Something to protect, something to do out of boredom. You are not supposed to remain psychologically 10 years old as an adult....

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Posted by Ric on :

The biggest problem though is the fact that most people make these people bigger problems. If you have someone that comes in and says something you don't like and then post 20 messages about this person then you are making him/her who they are. If they are a paid basher they get paid by how many responses they get from there post. If they are just a jerk just in there to start a fight then they win too. Responding to these people make them who they are.

Ric

Posted by DOUBLE L on :

Where do I apply for a basher job. Anyone? I would love to get paid to blast holes in scam companies.

Posted by Ric on :

Sounds like a easy job doesn't it. lol Wonder what the pay scale is?

quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
Where do I apply for a basher job. Anyone? I would love to get paid to blast holes in scam companies.

Posted by DOUBLE L on :

If anybody has info please e-mail me at my junk e-mail account at lloydshydraulics@yahoo.com

Posted by Wallace#1 on :

Dbl L,

Someone told me it was $5.00. Don't know if that is per bash, # of responses to each bash
or both combined. LOL And, I am not about to email you at that address! LMAO

Posted by Ric on :

There is something that I would rather have instead of an ignore though. I probably wouldn't ignore anyway because I like to read opposing views even if it is bashing because most bashing is based on a stocks weakness.

I would like a required field where you must choose either.

Don't own
Own
Considering
Off topic

And force this chose before you can send a post. Someone could lie but at least it lets you know where they come from. If they say they own but are bashing then they are either a moron for not selling or a basher. If they say they don't own then we can ask the question, why are you here then. Get lost.

Ric

Posted by pharmdman on :

I am for the ignore option. If you're not a complete moron, you won't be ignored.

The ignore button will not be to block opposing views, since the software will not be making determinations as to the content of the post, but rather the individual poster.

For instance, if I had the option to ignore, I would still see every QBID post with the exception of U4.

[edit spelling]

[This message has been edited by pharmdman (edited September 26, 2004).]

Posted by Ric on :

I don't know for sure but I would think it would be extremely hard for this type of forum to have an ignore. Allstocks knows more about the setup of this board but it looks to me like it would be difficult. Just the way the threads are arranged seems to make it impossible. I have written a lot of web sites in the past but never wrote a message board before so not sure on this. The way the other message boards are written (I like our format much better), you only see subject first and easier to ignore a member from that page. This site has the whole message within the thread which causes more technical difficulties in ignoring just the members in a ignore list. JMHO

Ric

Posted by Upside on :

originally posted by pharmdman:

quote:
For instance, if I had the option to ignore, I would still see every QBID post with the exception of U4.

But that is because you are a seasoned investor. Granted, a newbie looking for help might read an entire thread before making up his/her mind but once they've pulled the trigger, everyone with a negative opinion would be put on ignore. So many make the statement that we are all adults and should make up our own minds but being an adult does not mean we are all knowing. There are people here actually looking for help, and we should provide them our opinions. Pharm, I'm not taking issue with you, your one of people I hold in high esteem here (except that you were instrumental in getting my buddy Baaaaart banned, that upset me) you just supplied the soapbox for me to stand on. Actually when I look at it, it's kind of a weak argument, isn't it? Oh well, on to the next front!

Posted by djseoane on :

Well Spoken Grasshopper...
No one can make you mad; you let them make you mad. Was that the point you were trying to make? But I do believe if I was to walk into lets say my Brothers church in the middle of a sermon and expressed my full use of foul vocabulary, I could safely say that the majority of people in that room would forget about the above logic and want to kick my Lilly-white butt all over that holy ground. That may be an extreme example, so let me give a more suddal(sp) one. There are a few very educated people who frequently post on this site that are highly respected. There opinions can be golden to the majority of people who read them. But to some they may have a different view; you can actually be very offensive just by the use of a condescending tone, implied gesture or snide remark. I find anyone who is rude to be offensive personally. But I would never take away their right or freedom of expression, because we are the land of the free and the home of the brave, now play ball!!! But having the option to chose to block what you feel is an offensive comment may not be a bad idea as long as you are not stopping others from viewing the information that they may feel as relevant.... Dam soapbox, get that thing away from me, I already have a bruised hip form before.

Respectfully,

djseoane

quote:
Originally posted by YOuNgFettaChini:
I find it highly amazing that "adults" who are sure of themselves and know what they are doing, seem to be as indecisive as a five year old child choosing between cartoons are playing outside. How is it that you care what anyone posts and take it offensively? Because you live from a false sense of identity. Something to protect, something to do out of boredom. You are not supposed to remain psychologically 10 years old as an adult....

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Posted by cabbage22 on :

Hey Glass do I qualify as a lurker? lol

One problem with the ignore feature is it can create confusion on the board. Example- everyone on the CMKX board ignores a basher, then a newbie comes along and starts replying to the basher looking for info.
1- the bashers post will be in the reply so the dedicated CMKXers will still end up reading it,
2- the messages that arent direct replies cause confusion, the dedicated CMKXers say to the newbie "we dont know what you're talking about newbie we all ignored him."

PS Keep up the good work Glass

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
it would be nice to get feedback from lurkers...

Posted by djseoane on :

Ok all I am going to give you a heads up on this one.
I found the ignore button, it has been there all along I think we were just hitting the wrong keystrokes. What I am about to say next is going to be really stupid, in fact it is going to be so stupid that if you read this in its entirety I can guarantee some permant damage to functioning brain cell, so stop reading... Here we go... I thought you all were kidding about this paid basher thing? Are you all trying to say that someone somewhere pays some idiot to sit online all day or night to bash certain stocks?? To what end does this serve??? I mean is it some group trying to drive down specific stock price so the Masons can gain greater control of the World? JK Masons don't sent any one to bump my family off please, I have ties with the mob just in case you all get froggy. Wait to all the Feds out there I was jk about the mob ties my grand mother I think slept with a mobster years ago but that was just a purely physical thing, no emotion what so ever... Ok back to my point, hell what was my point... I remember now. You see you should have stopped reading when I warned you... Ok there may be people out there with agendas that we may never understand but people we are talking about micro-penny stocks... less than 1 cent a junior high students lunch money could buy these stocks. Granted we all take pride in dropping thousands and tens of thousands into them, because it makes us feel better. Hell in life isn't that what’s its all about, doing what ever at the time that will give you the greatest pleasure... that was not a sexual plug by the way it was a metaphor. So I say to all of you people, well at least the three that actually read this whole thing, lets join hands and unit around the common cause, break bread and get slovenly drunk and just buy what ever stock looks good for the moment, because we may not have another tomorrow... Dam that was the most completely idiotic statement I have ever made holey or in part, sorry all...

p.s. Ignore Button = Control+Alt+Delete

Sincerely,

djseoane

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Posted by Upside on :

Hear Hear djseoane! I wholeheartedly agree with your post, especially the slovenly drunk part!

Posted by YOuNgFettaChini on :

quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
Well Spoken Grasshopper...
No one can make you mad; you let them make you mad. Was that the point you were trying to make? But I do believe if I was to walk into lets say my Brothers church in the middle of a sermon and expressed my full use of foul vocabulary, I could safely say that the majority of people in that room would forget about the above logic and want to kick my Lilly-white butt all over that holy ground. That may be an extreme example, so let me give a more suddal(sp) one. There are a few very educated people who frequently post on this site that are highly respected. There opinions can be golden to the majority of people who read them. But to some they may have a different view; you can actually be very offensive just by the use of a condescending tone, implied gesture or snide remark. I find anyone who is rude to be offensive personally. But I would never take away their right or freedom of expression, because we are the land of the free and the home of the brave, now play ball!!! But having the option to chose to block what you feel is an offensive comment may not be a bad idea as long as you are not stopping others from viewing the information that they may feel as relevant.... Dam soapbox, get that thing away from me, I already have a bruised hip form before.
Respectfully,
djseoane

If you don't live in a glasshouse.....or sand castle on a beach....There's nothing to protect. Defending yourself on a message board is silly! Dangerous infantilism. That's why we have war. My "phallic symbol" is bigger that yours" syndrome. People won't realize how meaningless and mundane their lives are until they realize they just had an internet battle with someone they don't even know....Now that's scary. Girlie Men!

Respectfully,

YFC the amazed ONE......

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You are responsible for your life, for your feelings and definitely...EVERY
result YOU get!!

Posted by Upside on :

originally posted by YFC:

quote:
If you don't live in a glasshouse.....or sand castle on a beach....There's nothing to protect. Defending yourself on a message board is silly! Dangerous infantilism. That's why we have war. My "phallic symbol" is bigger that yours" syndrome. People won't realize how meaningless and mundane their lives are until they realize they just had an internet battle with someone they don't even know....Now that's scary. Girlie Men!
Respectfully,
YFC the amazed ONE......

Aren't you doing exactly what you're rallying against? Girlie Men?

Posted by djseoane on :

Dam man you did it I spent 15 min composing my last post above and you were way funnier than I ever was, good job and keep up those big words, I can always use a better vocabulary.

Sincerely,

djseoane

quote:
Originally posted by YOuNgFettaChini:
If you don't live in a glasshouse.....or sand castle on a beach....There's nothing to protect. Defending yourself on a message board is silly! Dangerous infantilism. That's why we have war. My "phallic symbol" is bigger that yours" syndrome. People won't realize how meaningless and mundane their lives are until they realize they just had an internet battle with someone they don't even know....Now that's scary. Girlie Men!
Respectfully,
YFC the amazed ONE......

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Posted by YOuNgFettaChini on :

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by YFC:
Aren't you doing exactly what you're rallying against? Girlie Men?

That's the point I'm trying to make. Instantly, your defense mechanism propped up it's ugly head and distorted a fact with fiction. I was kidding. In the sphere of thought, absurdity and perversity remain the masters of the world, and their dominion is suspended only for brief periods.

Posted by Upside on :

No defense mechanism here YFC, I'm just trying to figure out where you stand on this threads issue. I do like your last post though, what book did you take the absurdity/perversity quote from?

Posted by Pappy on :

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A IGNORE. THERE HAS BENN TO MANY EXELENT PEOPLE LOST TO THE JERKS ON HERE WE CANT IGNORE. THE ONLY WAY IGNORE WORKS IS IF ENOUGH PEOPLE WANT TO IGNOER ONE PERSON TO MAKE THEM LEAVE. IF NOT YOU CANT KEEP UP WITH TALK. IM HERE ALMOST EVERYDAY UNLESS FISHING OR HUNTING LUV ALMOST EVERYONE EXPECT TROUBLE CAUSERS! WE DONT WANT TROUBLE JUST DD AND CONSTRUCTIVE TALK IMHO. THANK YOU ALL. I AM LONG ON QBID AND CMKX

Posted by YOuNgFettaChini on :

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
No defense mechanism here YFC, I'm just trying to figure out where you stand on this threads issue. I do like your last post though, what book did you take the absurdity/perversity quote from?

Arthur Schopenhauer....I'm not standing, I'm sitting. Sitting here waiting for a board where people can actually interact with one another professionally as opposed to foolishly. One time, I actually enjoyed reading posts...they were hilarious! Then a barrage of egocentric "phallic symbols" entered the painting without supporting the frame....

Best regards,

YFC is going sleepy, sleepy.....Nite! Nite!

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You are responsible for your life, for your feelings and definitely...EVERY
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Posted by djseoane on :

Hey Young I like you already, not in a QBID kind of way but a wow, this guys has got a good line of crap kind of way. You are the Mac Daddy. Just one question I read your bio you do not happen to be like a 300 lb glasses wearing with tape in the middle sitting at home all day and trying and bash people on the internet because you thinking you may be smarter than them kind of guy are ya? Because I would much rather think of as you being the ladies man with all that smooth talk, again you da man!!!

Respectfully,

djseoane

quote:
Originally posted by YOuNgFettaChini:
That's the point I'm trying to make. Instantly, your defense mechanism propped up it's ugly head and distorted a fact with fiction. I was kidding. In the sphere of thought, absurdity and perversity remain the masters of the world, and their dominion is suspended only for brief periods.

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It's never a bad day if you can wake and tell someone about it.

Posted by Upside on :

Gotta agree with you there djseoane. He's got a way with words!

Posted by YOuNgFettaChini on :

quote:
Originally posted by djseoane:
Hey Young I like you already, not in a QBID kind of way but a wow, this guys has got a good line of crap kind of way. You are the Mac Daddy. Just one question I read your bio you do not happen to be like a 300 lb glasses wearing with tape in the middle sitting at home all day and trying and bash people on the internet because you thinking you may be smarter than them kind of guy are ya? Because I would much rather think of as you being the ladies man with all that smooth talk, again you da man!!!
Respectfully,
djseoane

LOL! I'm a former Marine and still can maintain a high PFT score. Definitely not bragging, that's a fact. I like to joke and have fun like everyone elso on this large, rotating ball of electromagnetism....I also like to get to facts and avoid babyism. As far as women are concerned I've never had a problem. Here's a tip....actually be interested in what they are talking about...and ACTUALLY listen....Ciao!

The Tao of YFC......

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You are responsible for your life, for your feelings and definitely...EVERY
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Posted by Upside on :

Or at least act like you're listening. As long as you remember a few key points, you should be ok.

Posted by user095263 on :

ahhh, one of the most informed posts i've read!

quote:
Originally posted by netsec:

...all women are picky...borders don't really matter man.

Posted by noahltl on :

I don't think that I would like an "ignore" button. There are too many times when I would be tempted to push it on myself, and just spin off into cyberspace.

Posted by RobinO on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Someone told me it was $5.00. Don't know if that is per bash, # of responses to each bash
or both combined.

Anyone care to give me some more info on these companies that pay people to 'bash' stocks? I sense urban legend.

-R

Posted by pharmdman on :

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by pharmdman:
But that is because you are a seasoned investor. Granted, a newbie looking for help might read an entire thread before making up his/her mind but once they've pulled the trigger, everyone with a negative opinion would be put on ignore. So many make the statement that we are all adults and should make up our own minds but being an adult does not mean we are all knowing. There are people here actually looking for help, and we should provide them our opinions. Pharm, I'm not taking issue with you, your one of people I hold in high esteem here (except that you were instrumental in getting my buddy Baaaaart banned, that upset me) you just supplied the soapbox for me to stand on. Actually when I look at it, it's kind of a weak argument, isn't it? Oh well, on to the next front!

I agree with what you're saying, but I think the issue may be getting confused here.

My understanding of an "ignore" feature would be that if I press [ignore] that I specifically would not be able to see that person's posts but everyone else would. That way anyone who wants to see everything would be able to, but I would have the option to not view certain posters.

I think that people are mistaking "ignore" as this: if I (or anyone) "ignores" someone, that nobody can see that post. If this is the case, then I'm against it. JMHO though.

I hope you're kidding about Baaa'aart though!

Posted by L Cypher on :

I found out I have an ignore button on my keyboard, it's the spacebar.

The easy way to ignore the bashers is to do exactly that. Don't respond to their distressing rants. Just like in real life. Most of these people just like to read themselves talk.

Many people here get way too emotional regarding certain stocks. That's where the conflict comes in. I'm pretty sure the most successful people in the markets have disciplined themselves to divorce emotion.

The lesson here is 'Don't fall in love with a stock'. Loving a penny stock is akin to falling in love with a hooker, it might be fun at first but after it's done f***ing you it'll just leave you broke.

BTW, I'm netiher for or against an ignore feature. If I had an ignore button I would use it to ignore bashers, pumpers and mostly myself.

Peace - Lou

Posted by Upside on :

originally posted by Pharmdman:

quote:
I hope you're kidding about Baaa'aart though!

Yeah, just kidding about good old Baaart. Although, on a slow day it was fun to banter with him a bit. Riveting conversationalist, rapier wit, etc., old Bart had it all.

Posted by musicamex on :

i think the best way to ignore someone is not to respond to their input. if you invest in something though, its good to know what is out there for people to react to that could affect your investment. read but don't respond.

you give someone power just by recognizing them. if you post well founded opinions and facts with links that you find will help your opinion and don't make it personal, someone pumping or bashing using baseless opinion will soon be recognized for their poor ability to predict.

i realize how hard it is to remain unflustered and factual, and have learned the hard way to try not to make or respond to insulting personal comments.

Posted by VNGNTN1 on :

quote:
Originally posted by noahltl:
I don't think that I would like an "ignore" button. There are too many times when I would be tempted to push it on myself, and just spin off into cyberspace.

MAYBE
But others would step in!
VAN