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BetNitAll
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posted February 03, 2004 23:03     Click Here to See the Profile for BetNitAll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder why no pr about it? Maybe we will see one soon.

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BetNitAll
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posted February 03, 2004 23:13     Click Here to See the Profile for BetNitAll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, check out this web page. It is in German, but I can make out a couple of key words that include "GamezNFlix.com" which is in the six paragraph down. It also mentions PGHI and the companies that PGHI owns, including VeeGeez. This is the same comapny. I do not know much about the berlin stock exchange, but I imgine that a pr about that should make us take off. Am a right or wrong?
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.aktiencheck.de/analysen/4_378645.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DUS7305421072%2B/%2B164641%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26o e%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

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m_h13021
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posted February 03, 2004 23:16     Click Here to See the Profile for m_h13021     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bet, I would just like to see one day when a PR is released and the PPS goes up. No complaints here just a statement. I am interested to see where the PPS would go when a PR is released on a off day(not Tuesday), with a succession of PR's. Bamm Bamm Bamm.

Ahhh whatever just rambling, I like the way things are going regardless. It was nice to tap ten cents today, right! - Marty

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BetNitAll
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posted February 03, 2004 23:24     Click Here to See the Profile for BetNitAll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you might get your chance. It looks like they have been on the berlin stock exchange for not that long....I would imagine that they would want the world to know.

It does suck that the PPS goes down on the PR's but there is always a reason for it. We flew on Monday, then re-adjusted. I think everyone can agree that we will be seeing a hgher PPS before too long.

I am hoping for a strong base at .10 by the time all the PR is released and the GamezNFlix website is up.. We will be in great shape then

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Bo14172
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posted February 03, 2004 23:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Bo14172     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BetNit,

PGHI, and other companies are looking ways to raise money through stock issuance, and/or retire debt into stock. They need exchanges to facilitate this transactions. Because the Berlin Exchange prohibits short selling, stocks are able to reflect market value more realistically. Given this market efficiency, companies can issue stock and convert debt easier, then also trade over the longer term in a market that reflects its valuation, performance and potential. The US markets are moving toward this. For PGHI and IBZT, debt is being retired, and soon the potential of both of these issues will be fully realized. Expectations will be exceeded in both. Be well

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ignorantbliss
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posted February 03, 2004 23:52     Click Here to See the Profile for ignorantbliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is translated..

02.02.2004
POINT Group of getting thing "strong buy"
obb online.de

The experts of "Upper Bavarian stock exchange letter" classify the share of POINT Group of getting thing (ISIN US7305421072/WKN 164641) with "strong buy".

Sometimes holding companies would suffer from the fact that the real value of their subsidiary companies is often misjudged. Exactly the experts would see this scenario current with the American POINT Group of getting thing, which offers management services within most diverse ranges as holding company.

The emphasis is thereby on advisory activities in the range of the management as well as support when seeking out and the evaluation of investment decisions. Up-to-date have the POINT Group of getting thing three promising subsidiaries, which the value the POINT Group of getting thing would finally constitute.

While with the AMCorp Group, Inc. and Naturally Technologies, Inc. are to be expected safe at short notice no innovative messages, stand likewise the VeeGeeZ operating under the cover the POINT Group of getting thing, LLC directly before a lasting efficiency increase. Within the range to the entertainment electronics active enterprises offer a comprehensive selection of plays for the Playstation, Playstation 2, Xbox, and Gamecube on basis of a monthly fee. The largest competition advantage lies according to estimate of the plant experts in the comprehensive kundenservice as well as in the timenear availability of the products.

A milestone in the enterprise development is without doubt for February the planned introduction on the market of GameZnFlix. Thus POINT Group of getting thing on the best way, one is the Big Player in this industry, NETFLIX Inc., to move a piece closer and further market shares in addition increases. The dynamics of this market become clear with a view of the Netflix Chart.

Within one and a half years Netflix of approximately 6.00 euro is upward shot and wise a market capitalization of 1,8 billion USD around sayful 900% at over 60,00 euro thereby up. Even if Netflix and the future GameZnFlix.com (namentliche support at the large competitor Netflix) could one on the other be transferred, despite the same operational field, naturally not one to one, this development for the POINT Group of getting thing Inc., which exhibits altogether only a market capitalization of 23 millions USD, saved enormous area for Kursfantasie. Differently formulates: Even during a course increasing tenfold of the PGHI share, the competitor Netflix would be still approximately eight times more expensively evaluated.

After the POINT noted Group until Octobers of the past yearly under a cent and so that a rather inconspicuous existence on the kurszetteln gefristet, at the end of of October movement came into the title. Accompanied from enormous conversions the title exploded in two months up to 0,068 USD. Thus the investors seem to have recognized that the value of the individual subsidiaries as well as their long-term growth perspectives reflects itself so far in smallest way in the course the POINT Group share, so the security specialists of "Upper Bavarian stock exchange letter".

Crucial it is now that the enterprise stands despite the fulminanten rise during the past weeks still at the beginning of its development and has due to the still existing underestimation also further clear Kurspotenzial. With a positive News flow one is convinced of the fact that the share can already at short notice clearly add and in foreseeable time the two digit cent range reaches. The largest Potenzial see one up-to-date with GameZnFlix.com, which is active in a very lucrative market and has enormous Potenzial on a long-term basis, at which the POINT Group in its entirety participating could.

Despite the enormous Potenzials, which could reflect itself according to estimate of the experts already soon in rising quotations, one would not like to miss it here to refer to the speculative character of this value. Even if according to opinion of the experts of the current kursniveau a Potenzial of approximately 210% results, concern it with the POINT Group of getting thing an absolute High Risk Investment, with which also a increased risk faces the enormous course chances.

Before the background of the analysis classify the experts of "Upper Bavarian stock exchange letter" the share the POINT Group getting thing with "strong buy". The course goal see one with 0,30 USD.


quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
OK, check out this web page. It is in German, but I can make out a couple of key words that include "GamezNFlix.com" which is in the six paragraph down. It also mentions PGHI and the companies that PGHI owns, including VeeGeez. This is the same comapny. I do not know much about the berlin stock exchange, but I imgine that a pr about that should make us take off. Am a right or wrong?
[URL=http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.aktiencheck.de/analysen/4_378645.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DUS7305421072%2B/%2B164641%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF- 8%26o]http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.aktiencheck.de/analysen/4_378645.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DUS7305421072%2B/%2B164641%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF -8%26o[/URL] e%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

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Wooter
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posted February 03, 2004 23:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Wooter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone call the People's Republic of Boulder yet?
Well, I'm coming and hell's coming with me.
They are going to have fliers coming out their ears.

Mike

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kevinmeister
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posted February 04, 2004 01:47     Click Here to See the Profile for kevinmeister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was overhearing a bunch of complaining over on RB about the new website. (Seems like that's all that goes on over there sometimes!!!) One common complaint which made sense was about not being able to determine which games were multi-player vs. single player. So, as a shareholder I took it upon myself to write the webmaster of Veegeez. I got a response 20 minutes later. This company really cares about it's customers and is willing to adapt to meet their needs. We will be very successful if this customer service continues. See dialog below. GLA

On 2/3/04 7:39 PM, "Valued Customer" kevinmeister wrote:

A common complaint I am hearing from subscribers is not being able to find out how many players can play each game until they pull up the individual game. A suggestion would be to provide a filter for multi player games vs. single player games. Kevin, Shareholder

Kevin,

That is a good idea. I will make a category for multiplayer games. It may take me a week or so to figure it out and write some scripts, but I will make it happen.

Thanks for Choosing VeeGeeZ.

Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC


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aawhite12
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posted February 04, 2004 01:59     Click Here to See the Profile for aawhite12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
OK, check out this web page. It is in German, but I can make out a couple of key words that include "GamezNFlix.com" which is in the six paragraph down. It also mentions PGHI and the companies that PGHI owns, including VeeGeez. This is the same comapny. I do not know much about the berlin stock exchange, but I imgine that a pr about that should make us take off. Am a right or wrong?
[URL=http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.aktiencheck.de/analysen/4_378645.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DUS7305421072%2B/%2B164641%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF- 8%26o]http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.aktiencheck.de/analysen/4_378645.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DUS7305421072%2B/%2B164641%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF -8%26o[/URL] e%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG

Translated:02.02.2004
POINT Group of getting thing "strong buy"
obb online.de

The experts of "Upper Bavarian stock exchange letter" classify the share of POINT Group of getting thing (ISIN US7305421072/WKN 164641) with "strong buy".

Sometimes holding companies would suffer from the fact that the real value of their subsidiary companies is often misjudged. Exactly the experts would see this scenario current with the American POINT Group of getting thing, which offers management services within most diverse ranges as holding company.

The emphasis is thereby on advisory activities in the range of the management as well as support when seeking out and the evaluation of investment decisions. Up-to-date have the POINT Group of getting thing three promising subsidiaries, which the value the POINT Group of getting thing would finally constitute.

While with the AMCorp Group, Inc. and Naturally Technologies, Inc. are to be expected safe at short notice no innovative messages, stand likewise the VeeGeeZ operating under the cover the POINT Group of getting thing, LLC directly before a lasting efficiency increase. Within the range to the entertainment electronics active enterprises offer a comprehensive selection of plays for the Playstation, Playstation 2, Xbox, and Gamecube on basis of a monthly fee. The largest competition advantage lies according to estimate of the plant experts in the comprehensive kundenservice as well as in the timenear availability of the products.

A milestone in the enterprise development is without doubt for February the planned introduction on the market of GameZnFlix. Thus POINT Group of getting thing on the best way, one is the Big Player in this industry, NETFLIX Inc., to move a piece closer and further market shares in addition increases. The dynamics of this market become clear with a view of the Netflix Chart.

Within one and a half years Netflix of approximately 6.00 euro is upward shot and wise a market capitalization of 1,8 billion USD around sayful 900% at over 60,00 euro thereby up. Even if Netflix and the future GameZnFlix.com (namentliche support at the large competitor Netflix) could one on the other be transferred, despite the same operational field, naturally not one to one, this development for the POINT Group of getting thing Inc., which exhibits altogether only a market capitalization of 23 millions USD, saved enormous area for Kursfantasie. Differently formulates: Even during a course increasing tenfold of the PGHI share, the competitor Netflix would be still approximately eight times more expensively evaluated.

After the POINT noted Group until Octobers of the past yearly under a cent and so that a rather inconspicuous existence on the kurszetteln gefristet, at the end of of October movement came into the title. Accompanied from enormous conversions the title exploded in two months up to 0,068 USD. Thus the investors seem to have recognized that the value of the individual subsidiaries as well as their long-term growth perspectives reflects itself so far in smallest way in the course the POINT Group share, so the security specialists of "Upper Bavarian stock exchange letter".

Crucial it is now that the enterprise stands despite the fulminanten rise during the past weeks still at the beginning of its development and has due to the still existing underestimation also further clear Kurspotenzial. With a positive News flow one is convinced of the fact that the share can already at short notice clearly add and in foreseeable time the two digit cent range reaches. The largest Potenzial see one up-to-date with GameZnFlix.com, which is active in a very lucrative market and has enormous Potenzial on a long-term basis, at which the POINT Group in its entirety participating could.

Despite the enormous Potenzials, which could reflect itself according to estimate of the experts already soon in rising quotations, one would not like to miss it here to refer to the speculative character of this value. Even if according to opinion of the experts of the current kursniveau a Potenzial of approximately 210% results, concern it with the POINT Group of getting thing an absolute High Risk Investment, with which also a increased risk faces the enormous course chances.

Before the background of the analysis classify the experts of "Upper Bavarian stock exchange letter" the share the POINT Group getting thing with "strong buy". The course goal see one with 0,30 USD

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nitroburn
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posted February 04, 2004 02:07     Click Here to See the Profile for nitroburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just sent this e-mail to Tech Tv's show
X-Play:


First, I would like thank you for spending time to read this. I wanted to make a sugestion for an article that could be done for
the show X-Play. Online video game rental is the next and new way to rent games. With zero late fees and the sucess of NetFlix (Online DVD rentals) sites like the new veegeez.com, gamefly.com, and redoctane.com are becoming more and more popular. I would love to see X-Play do a review of the top onling game rental sites. You could sign up from a few of them and then rate them on the speed of delivery, game availability, customer service, and so on. Personaly I first tried Gamefly, but switched to veegeez.com because they have 99% of all XBOX, PS2, and Game Cube games available. They also have two distribution centers with more to come, and are about to include DVD rentals along with games. In my opinion X-Play is the show that gamers tune into for reviews, and I think this would make a great one.

Thank You
Rion Hanson

I don't have the greatest writing skills, but it's what I can do.

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tommy
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posted February 04, 2004 02:22     Click Here to See the Profile for tommy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good job nitroburn!

This is why Veegeez will prevail over Gamefly very soon because we have dedicated shareholders who do their part in helping the company succeed!

Let's keep up the good work!

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mad tony
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posted February 04, 2004 02:27     Click Here to See the Profile for mad tony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In response to my inquiry about any plans of them offering the option to buy games...were:
"It may be something we are able to offer in the future. Some things have to happen before we can offer that."

Maybe 2nd on their list is an affiliate program.

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denzen
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posted February 04, 2004 02:28     Click Here to See the Profile for denzen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kevin, way to go!
You too Nitro.

DZ

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quote:
Originally posted by kevinmeister:
Was overhearing a bunch of complaining over on RB about the new website. (Seems like that's all that goes on over there sometimes!!!) One common complaint which made sense was about not being able to determine which games were multi-player vs. single player. So, as a shareholder I took it upon myself to write the webmaster of Veegeez. I got a response 20 minutes later. This company really cares about it's customers and is willing to adapt to meet their needs. We will be very successful if this customer service continues. See dialog below. GLA

On 2/3/04 7:39 PM, "Valued Customer" kevinmeister wrote:

A common complaint I am hearing from subscribers is not being able to find out how many players can play each game until they pull up the individual game. A suggestion would be to provide a filter for multi player games vs. single player games. Kevin, Shareholder

Kevin,

That is a good idea. I will make a category for multiplayer games. It may take me a week or so to figure it out and write some scripts, but I will make it happen.

Thanks for Choosing VeeGeeZ.

Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC


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Wooter
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posted February 04, 2004 02:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Wooter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THIS IS DATED JUNE 10th, 2003 SO KEEP YOUR SHORTS ON, but I thought it was funny to look back on now, especially the short term target price.


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Market Advisors Research Initiates Coverage on Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
Tuesday June 10, 6:02 am ET
Short Term Target Price of US $0.08 Based on Analysis of Company's Fundamentals


SAN DIEGO, June 10 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC Bulletin Board: PGHI - News) is pleased to announce that Market Advisors Research initiates coverage of Point Group Holdings, Incorporated. Mr. Jeff Helleberg, lead analyst of Market Advisors Research, confirms a positive outlook on PGHI based on his analysis of the Company's fundamentals.

Mr. Jeff Helleberg is the lead analyst of Market Advisors Research, a company that has been in business since the 1970s. During the late 1980s and through the 1990s, Mr. Helleberg was the editor and chief of the nationally syndicated Marketarian Newletter. Under Mr. Helleberg's guidance, the Marketarian was rated numerous times by the Wall Street Journal, Hubert Financial Digest and the Timer Digest, among others, as one of the best market timers, top bond timers and having one of the best model portfolios.

Mr. Helleberg stated, "If PGHI can execute its business plan over the next few years, steps taken by management are now in place to allow them to begin to penetrate their marketplace. We will be following their progress with interest."

Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.
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nitroburn
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posted February 04, 2004 07:27     Click Here to See the Profile for nitroburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posted on the RB, and something to think about:

By: el_bosso
04 Feb 2004, 07:06 AM EST
Msg. 30017 of 30019
Jump to msg. #
@ all

so, what do we learn from the Daily Philli Article ?

Apparently a NFLX customer is valued (ceterus paribus) at 1,220 $. Following this approach GFLX (PHGI) would need some 27,000 customers. I'm not much into the concrete business - may be there would appear some differencies in valuing a Video-Game or other customer in terms of monthly rates.

But we know the monthly rates between 20 $ and 40$. Let's assume a 30 $ approach - that equals 360 $ a Year. Referring to the 1,220 $ "customer value" this would mean roughly a 40 month valuation base which seems more than moderate.

If you think in discounted cash flow terms you might take into account a 8% discount each year to find out a Net Present Value for each customer. This would work out to about 50 month valuation.

This calculation might be quite rough and you can easily change some parameters - but it shows the immense potential of this stock if you follow a straightforward and aggressive strategy.

El Bosso

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john19623
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posted February 04, 2004 07:41     Click Here to See the Profile for john19623     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My take on yesterday, and please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm a relatively new investor, and I have been studying how certain stocks move. Companys that have frequent PR's (unless too frequent) see run ups afterward because there is no anticipation of it. In PGHI's case, the anticipation for several weeks caused the stock to factor in it's initial run. A large number of short term investors planned on selling no matter what the news was. This seems to happen with every PGHI PR lately because the news gets out ahead of time. Now that the short term traders are out, they and we will start to move the stock back up in anticipation of the next PR which will be the symbol change. If it doesn't happen today and it takes till next week to happen, I think we will see a sharp rise in the pps untill so, and then a possible retrace again with the news. If it happens today, I think we will see huge gains by the close. Am I wrong?
JMO

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realityinc21
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posted February 04, 2004 08:37     Click Here to See the Profile for realityinc21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by john19623:
[B]My take on yesterday

JOHN,

EXCELLANT TAKE ON STOCK MARKET MOVES. PGHI INCREASE MAY NOT HAPPEN TODAY BUT IT WILL HAPPEN. FOR BEING NEW YOU HAVE A GOOD GRASP ON THE MARKET AS A WHOLE. VERY OFTEN NEW TRADERS ARE NOT SO AWARE. GOOD JOB.

NITRO AND KEVIN. WOW. GREAT WORK..

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VeeHappy
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posted February 04, 2004 09:29     Click Here to See the Profile for VeeHappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Passed along some flyers last nite.I 'll get
thier feedback tonite.One mother was really surprised and started asking q's about VeeGeeZ.

There you go.

VeeHappy

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delt16
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posted February 04, 2004 09:57     Click Here to See the Profile for delt16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looks like they will not be carrying PS1 games anymore. Here is a email response from veegeez.com

"PS1 games have been removed. We are now focusing on the current systems. I am very sorry for the inconvenience. It may be time to upgrade ."

I am a little dissapointed that there was no warning about this.
also, what about the 99% of all published games?

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m_h13021
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posted February 04, 2004 09:59     Click Here to See the Profile for m_h13021     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It may be time to upgrade"

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delt16
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posted February 04, 2004 10:01     Click Here to See the Profile for delt16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
[b]"It may be time to upgrade"[/B]


I have Xbox.....it was just a general questions to them, to see what the answer was

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chiloso
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posted February 04, 2004 10:01     Click Here to See the Profile for chiloso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally Ameritrade made my funds available. I'm in w/20,000 shares.

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kcbudman
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posted February 04, 2004 10:02     Click Here to See the Profile for kcbudman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an email I sent to Mr. Fleming, and his response:

Mr. Fleming,
Concerning the article in Billboard and the 50 DVD rentals, are these going to be new releases? Also, with a small child (2 years old) I may add that childrens videos are somewhat hard to find through businesses such as your ( or ours, since i am a shareholder). My question is, will you have new releases and childrens videos? I currently use WalMart.com to rent videos through the mail, but will be ending that when PGHI begins DVD rentals. Thanks, Buddy


The answer is YES. We are a family based company and I have two young grandchildren.
We will be starting with 50 of new and newest titles with the inventory growing a weekly basis.
John Fleming
CEO/President
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
1535 Blackjack Road
Franklin, KY 42134

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delt16
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posted February 04, 2004 10:03     Click Here to See the Profile for delt16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
[b]"It may be time to upgrade"[/B]

Its called research......we own the company, dont you want to know what they are doing??

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m_h13021
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posted February 04, 2004 10:05     Click Here to See the Profile for m_h13021     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by delt16:

I have Xbox.....it was just a general questions to them, to see what the answer was


I understand, I was just amused by there "suggestion". Maybe, there are so many titles out there, PSX1 only makes up 1%...lol right? - Marty

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posted February 04, 2004 10:09     Click Here to See the Profile for sopclod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:

I understand, I was just amused by there "suggestion". Maybe, there are so many titles out there, PSX1 only makes up 1%...lol right? - Marty

I would add that although I own a PS2 I greatly enjoy many PS1 games. However, PS1 games are pretty cheap to buy these days, especially if you buy used. All else being equal, I don't think it's a bad move, as most people are probably more interested in renting new and expensive games.

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sopclod
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quote:
Originally posted by trader01:
Its amazing that i am literally comfortable watching PGHI down today, if it were some other stock I would be sort of in a panic. Yet PGHI seems to be the most stress-free stock out there. Hopefully once this hits the 20s I can take my profit and start playing the Nasdaq stocks. Has anyone been keeping an eye on NT and LU... all i can say is wow, imagine buying 25,000$ of shares a couple of months ago and your money doubling with a minimum risk!


Are you a mind reader?!? That's exactly what I'd like to do. I used to day-trade Nasdaq stocks but I got frustrated doing it with just a few grand. I'm hoping gains from this stock will allow me to do a bit more "serious" day-trading sometime in the future.

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Livios
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posted February 04, 2004 10:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Livios     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The latest ranking of the new veegeez.com

Traffic rank:

Today 1 wk. Avg. 3 mos. Avg. 3 mos. Change
19,803 47,253 122,923 222,199

Nice improve I would say.

LIVIOS

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BetNitAll
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posted February 04, 2004 10:23     Click Here to See the Profile for BetNitAll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some one just bought a crap load at .078

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BetNitAll
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posted February 04, 2004 10:27     Click Here to See the Profile for BetNitAll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This stock can sure move

Would be nice if that 500 was for real, anice gap up!

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Drethar2
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posted February 04, 2004 10:32     Click Here to See the Profile for Drethar2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My theory on the pullback the past few days...
Partially it is probably just consolidating fro mthe run-up...but also the name change is coming, and everyone said all shorts have to be covered before that point right? If thats the case, the MMs no doubtedly wanted to help the runup on Fri-Mon as much as possible so they could short those shares near 10cents, then yesterday they wanted to drive the price back down as much as possible knowing theyd have to cover their shares quick...which means whenever the name change occurs, today or otherwise, we should see another spike in the price before it, possibly a severe one, as the MMs cover all their shorts...GLTA!

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clay1999
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posted February 04, 2004 10:42     Click Here to See the Profile for clay1999     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops i thought I was on ctkh...sorry.... too many thing on my mind

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posted February 04, 2004 10:53     Click Here to See the Profile for BetNitAll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am almost positive that that does not count for otcbb stocks, if we are thinking of the same thing.


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Originally posted by clay1999:
I think we are going to see MAJOR shakeing like we never seen before due to this Feb 20th naked short thing.... these MM had alot of time to plan on how to cover there shorts.... just think how you would if you were a MM huh.....I can't go by anything I see until after the big shake down...
Clay

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posted February 04, 2004 11:10     Click Here to See the Profile for m_h13021     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The so-called "naked" shorting. Yes, it does occur in OTCBB stocks. Yes, Canadian exchanges do allow for shorting of OTCBB shares. However, the actual amount of shorting in these shares by individuals is probably a lot less than most people think. For some reason, every time an OTCBB stock goes down it seems someone starts screaming "naked shorts". The facts are that although Canadian securities regulations do allow OTCBB and other low priced shares to be both marginable and shortable, the amount of collateral required is large. For instance, to short an OTCBB stock selling for under 50 cents per share, Vancouver Stock Exchange rules require the account must have credit equal to the market value of the shorted stock plus 50 cents per share. Can an American short OTC BB shares this way? This is where it gets sticky - US regulations say no. This is almost certainly one of several areas in which the ongoing SEC investigation of Canadian brokerage firms is focusing upon. More on this later.

Just about every stock promoter likes to trot out the "naked shorting" excuse when the stock they are hyping is falling. With 20/20 hindsight (and some help from regulators' legal briefs) we can often see that these same stock were declining not because of "naked shorting" but because insiders, control persons as well as the promoters themselves were dumping huge blocks of stock into the open market. Thus, they were using the "naked shorting" excuse to cover their tracks and perhaps entice gullible investors into buying more of the stock, which is likely the promoter's own shares. Often, this selling and shorting is being done through Canadian brokerages.

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posted February 04, 2004 11:10     Click Here to See the Profile for Malloy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well guys, I've been there (Nasdaq). I had NT (bought when they were down and sold last week) and believe me, I'm having a lot more fun here and making a lot more money.

Nasdaq is not the honest and pure stock exchange you would want. Lies and more lies are coming from all over. And not only Nasdaq (just thing about ENRON). A least here, I know that it's mostly about speculation and I ajust my strategy to fit the monster. But once in a while, we find a company that should make it big (like PGHI) and it's worth it to keep for medium term...not just day trade. Anyway, if you want to play with the ¨wanna be¨ big league, have fun my friend. You're welcome to come back here anytime.

Malloy


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Originally posted by sopclod:
Are you a mind reader?!? That's exactly what I'd like to do. I used to day-trade Nasdaq stocks but I got frustrated doing it with just a few grand. I'm hoping gains from this stock will allow me to do a bit more "serious" day-trading sometime in the future.


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posted February 04, 2004 11:25     Click Here to See the Profile for fozzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Anyway, if you want to play with the ¨wanna be¨ big league, have fun my friend. You're welcome to come back here anytime.

Statements like this always make me laugh. As if trading the OTCBB is easier than on NASD. Lol, I forgot NASD is only for the "big boys" who "understand" the market better. Dare I ever trade there? Ha!

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posted February 04, 2004 11:32     Click Here to See the Profile for VeeHappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Me to VeeGeez Club....today also.

VeeHappy

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posted February 04, 2004 11:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Malloy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ambiguous? Are you saying you agree are not with me?

Malloy

And one for the road, are you for or against Janet Jackson returning to SuperBowl?


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Originally posted by fozzy:
Statements like this always make me laugh. As if trading the OTCBB is easier than on NASD. Lol, I forgot NASD is only for the "big boys" who "understand" the market better. Dare I ever trade there? Ha!

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posted February 04, 2004 11:41     Click Here to See the Profile for tommy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I the only one who got used to checking the traffic counter on the old site and is now feeling lost because that counter is removed?

I'd love to know the exact traffic going on with the new site, I bet you it's at least 3x more than the old site!

Allright, back to watching the paint dry!

GLTA!

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Originally posted by Livios:
The latest ranking of the new veegeez.com

Traffic rank:

Today 1 wk. Avg. 3 mos. Avg. 3 mos. Change
19,803 47,253 122,923 222,199

Nice improve I would say.

LIVIOS


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posted February 04, 2004 11:42     Click Here to See the Profile for fozzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another question....

What's with the general negative attitude from most people regarding penny stocks? People act like buying them is the biggest faux pas imaginable. Just the other day one of my closest friends said, after telling him the news of PGHI going up almost 40%, "What, so that's like 4 pennies? Big deal." That got me so pissed off and I don't know why. Just his ignorance, I guess.

Plus, the previous posts' implication that small-timers only trade the otcbb and "real winners" trade "real" exchanges. Why don't you just let individual portfolios speak for themselves? I'm sure plenty of people make a killing here. I know I have been blessed so far.

Maybe I'm just being a little too defensive. Time to get back to the day job! Lol

Fozzy

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posted February 04, 2004 11:47     Click Here to See the Profile for tigerontop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats funny, because I went on MSN boards last night and ask advice on PGHI and wanted to know if their were any investors
in NetFlix. (no pumping at all!) and my post was deleted for "bringing up a OTCBB stock"
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Originally posted by fozzy:
Another question....

What's with the general negative attitude from most people regarding penny stocks? People act like buying them is the biggest faux pas imaginable. Just the other day one of my closest friends said, after telling him the news of PGHI going up almost 40%, "What, so that's like 4 pennies? Big deal." That got me so pissed off and I don't know why. Just his ignorance, I guess.

Plus, the previous posts' implication that small-timers only trade the otcbb and "real winners" trade "real" exchanges. Why don't you just let individual portfolios speak for themselves? I'm sure plenty of people make a killing here. I know I have been blessed so far.

Maybe I'm just being a little too defensive. Time to get back to the day job! Lol

Fozzy

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posted February 04, 2004 11:48     Click Here to See the Profile for tommy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fozzy, if you friend told you that, it's because he probably was never good in math!

It's all about relative gains, not absolute gains!

PGHI going from .02 to .04 is +100% profit.

If you buy Netflix at $70, you need it to go to $140 before you can get +100% profit!

Of course there's the risk factor involved but that's another subject!

GLTA!

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Originally posted by fozzy:
Another question....

What's with the general negative attitude from most people regarding penny stocks? People act like buying them is the biggest faux pas imaginable. Just the other day one of my closest friends said, after telling him the news of PGHI going up almost 40%, "What, so that's like 4 pennies? Big deal." That got me so pissed off and I don't know why. Just his ignorance, I guess.

Plus, the previous posts' implication that small-timers only trade the otcbb and "real winners" trade "real" exchanges. Why don't you just let individual portfolios speak for themselves? I'm sure plenty of people make a killing here. I know I have been blesses so far.

Maybe I'm just being a little too defensive. Time to get back to the day job! Lol

Fozzy


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posted February 04, 2004 11:52     Click Here to See the Profile for VeeHappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Ambiguous? Are you saying you agree are not with me?

Malloy

And one for the road, are you for or against Janet Jackson returning to SuperBowl?




Oh yeah...I want to see the other (S and S)
Saline and Silicon boobs of JJ.
Let her return to the Superbowl...Next time it should be rated...no kids under 18 is allowed to view it.

VeeHappy

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posted February 04, 2004 11:53     Click Here to See the Profile for fozzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Ambiguous? Are you saying you agree are not with me?

Malloy

And one for the road, are you for or against Janet Jackson returning to SuperBowl?


I'm not for Janet Jackson returning to anything, ever That stunt was absolutely planned and everyone is still yapping about it. haha

I don't think I was being ambiguous. I simply meant that one exchange is not better than another; that it does not take any more skill to trade on NASD than it does the OTCBB. Different types of skill, yes, but I don't feel you need to be some all-knowing investor to make money on either.

Just the way your message came across, that's all.

Fozzy

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posted February 04, 2004 11:58     Click Here to See the Profile for Degs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well all I got to say is you don't have to be the smartest guy/girl on the block to figure out that it is much easier to get a 100% gain on a Stock @ .04 than it is on a stock @ lets say $5.00

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posted February 04, 2004 11:58     Click Here to See the Profile for fozzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
fozzy, if you friend told you that, it's because he probably was never good in math!

It's all about relative gains, not absolute gains!

PGHI going from .02 to .04 is +100% profit.

If you buy Netflix at $70, you need it to go to $140 before you can get +100% profit!

Of course there's the risk factor involved but that's another subject!

GLTA!



Yes, I know that, lol. I know he's not that stupid either, just made an ignorant statement. I guess I'm still stuck in "defensive" mode. Had to do it when PGHI was back in the .03-.04 range and will probably STILL have to do it until it is listed on NASD. Just the way most people think when you mention the dreaded "penny stock." Ohhhh nooooo!

But I'll just laugh and collect. Shame on them.

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posted February 04, 2004 12:25     Click Here to See the Profile for trader01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no, think about it this way, you buy $25,000 in LU at lets say $4.00 (6250 shares). then it moves up to $4.50 and you just made approx $3,000 with a relative minimum risk. PLUS ameritrade offers a 5-second guarantee so you can easily get in and out at any given price. YES this works with OTCBBs and you reap higher profits but there is always the risk factor and its main consequence STRESS!!!

If one manages to repeat the LU thing mentioned above with a variety of companies then imagine how quick that would make money for you. Dump 25,000$ over and over for small and simple 1,000-2,000 gains and see where that will get you in a months time!

quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Well guys, I've been there (Nasdaq). I had NT (bought when they were down and sold last week) and believe me, I'm having a lot more fun here and making a lot more money.

Nasdaq is not the honest and pure stock exchange you would want. Lies and more lies are coming from all over. And not only Nasdaq (just thing about ENRON). A least here, I know that it's mostly about speculation and I ajust my strategy to fit the monster. But once in a while, we find a company that should make it big (like PGHI) and it's worth it to keep for medium term...not just day trade. Anyway, if you want to play with the ¨wanna be¨ big league, have fun my friend. You're welcome to come back here anytime.

Malloy



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posted February 04, 2004 12:26     Click Here to See the Profile for delt16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:

I understand, I was just amused by there "suggestion". Maybe, there are so many titles out there, PSX1 only makes up 1%...lol right? - Marty


Yeah, maybe your right. Maybe nobody has rented any PS1 games over the past year.

But, if they did have people renting PS1 games, it just seems unprofessional to just drop all those titles with out warning.


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posted February 04, 2004 12:33     Click Here to See the Profile for penny_stock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is the symbol change coming soon today.


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Originally posted by delt16:

Yeah, maybe your right. Maybe nobody has rented any PS1 games over the past year.

But, if they did have people renting PS1 games, it just seems unprofessional to just drop all those titles with out warning.


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posted February 04, 2004 12:37     Click Here to See the Profile for tommy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The symbol change happens after the market closes, not during.

Keep an eye on the daily list at otcbb.com and you will see if the symbol PGHI is scheduled for deletion later on tonight and will be replaced by the new symbol.

Might be today, tomorrow or in a few days. Hopefully they filed in time and it won't be delayed like the Def. 14c was!

GLTA!

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Originally posted by penny_stock:
Is the symbol change coming soon today.



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