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tvance
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Im a newbie with just a few hundy to start with, --- Sharebuilder looks nice and low, but FirstTrade is giving away 100 free shares --BUT-- it looks like they charge a SURCHARGE for stocks under $2 --(does anyone know if Sharebuilder does this?) --

Scottrade looked good but they have a 1k minimum....

advice please...

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Scottrade is only $500 minumum for cash account. $2000 for margin account.

Choicetrade sounds like the best bet for you. No minimum to open cash account. Only $5 a trade. Here's a link to their Accounts FAQ page...

http://www.choicetrade.com/faq_account.shtml

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A lot of brokers have a minmimum but they don't really care.

I know that Ameritrade has a minimum of $2000 to open an account, and that's what it says on their application, not for a margin account, just to open an account.

A friend of mine opened one yesterday with $500.

Call them, see what they tell you..

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None of them. Try Tradingdirect.com, works very good with OTC and PK stocks. You can buy until 100,000 with just a com. of 9.95
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My mistake, I must said a million to buy with a 9,95 com. And you open it with 500.00
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quote:
Originally posted by tvance:
Im a newbie with just a few hundy to start with, --- Sharebuilder looks nice and low, but FirstTrade is giving away 100 free shares --BUT-- it looks like they charge a SURCHARGE for stocks under $2 --(does anyone know if Sharebuilder does this?) --

Scottrade looked good but they have a 1k minimum....

advice please...

Neither.. use Choicetrade.com

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quote:
Originally posted by stockonyou:
None of them. Try Tradingdirect.com, works very good with OTC and PK stocks. You can buy until 100,000 with just a com. of 9.95

Choicetrade.com is $5 commission and you can buy a whole lot more then 100,000 shares lol ... [Roll Eyes]

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choicetrade is where to go! sharebuilder wont let u play otcbb or pinksheets, so i digress, CHOICETRADE

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Excellent! That's a good one. I'll be open it right away. Thanks machiavelli!!!
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Machiavelli choicetrade should start paying you some commissions for all the people you have sent there way. I must say they are a great broker though.
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he should ask for a t-shirt. i want a choice trade t-shirt and i'm not allowed to sign up with them. not that i would...freetrade looks to be a superior broker. no offense but their trades are free!
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quote:
Originally posted by stockonyou:
None of them. Try Tradingdirect.com, works very good with OTC and PK stocks. You can buy until 100,000 with just a com. of 9.95

Besides what Mach said above, TradingDirect adds fees when you sell (as opposed to buy). Choice Trade does not.
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quote:
Originally posted by Junky:
he should ask for a t-shirt. i want a choice trade t-shirt and i'm not allowed to sign up with them. not that i would...freetrade looks to be a superior broker. no offense but their trades are free!

As far as i can see on Freetrade's site they charge commissions etc.. so nothing is free in this world.. $5,000 minimum to open a account and like 2 years trading experience to open a account etc.. etc.. thanks but no thanks ill stick to Choicetrade.. [Big Grin]

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for choicetrade, is it possible to do EFT transfers into my account if i sign up? i dont want to pay wire fees
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the answer is yes!
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quote:
Originally posted by ranger10:
Machiavelli choicetrade should start paying you some commissions for all the people you have sent there way. I must say they are a great broker though.

Yeah they should lol but its ok... they just happen to be a "product and/or service" i believe in and am happy to recommend to others...

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I use sharebuilder and scottrade.... Sharebuilder is great for longterm use. For 12$ a month i get 8 freetrades (well.... not totaly free) All dividens get reinvested for free. I can set it up to invest in a certain co at a certain time. Also I'm aloud to buy partial shares. ie I'm going to purchase 150. worth of xmsr on tuesday. Thats going to be 4.7897 shares. But for tradeing I use scottrade. glta....... I hope that made sence
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quote:
Originally posted by hcain:
I use sharebuilder and scottrade.... Sharebuilder is great for longterm use. For 12$ a month i get 8 freetrades (well.... not totaly free) All dividens get reinvested for free. I can set it up to invest in a certain co at a certain time. Also I'm aloud to buy partial shares. ie I'm going to purchase 150. worth of xmsr on tuesday. Thats going to be 4.7897 shares. But for tradeing I use scottrade. glta....... I hope that made sence

Scottrade sucks so i heard in terms of their fee's... if you want to be a "trader" .. scottrade isnt a wise choice especially for pink stocks.. [Roll Eyes] I always recommend Choicetrade...

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Scottrade is CRAP-the WORST brokerage I have EVER had. Slooooooow fills, awful routing, crappy customer service.

Freetrade has been EXCELLENT-it is really too bad they had to pull the plug on us and go away.

Now, it seems we have just 2 choices left: Ameritrade Izone or Choicetrade.

Can anyone tell me how either of them are? I like CT's 99 cent option commissions, but have no idea how their fills are.

I'd appreciate some feedback on either brokerage.

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I'm not that expierenced when it comes to pinks (as I've stated in the past). I'm just trying to learn as muck as posible. I choosed scott b/c they have offices. I know that sounds stupid but, talking to someone in person makes a lot of difference (in the begining). Exicution does take qite a while. Realtime takes about 1 min to fill. Realtime????
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Choicetrade Hcain.. great customer service, great commission fee's, just great everything...

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quote:
Originally posted by smcinaz:
Scottrade is CRAP-the WORST brokerage I have EVER had. Slooooooow fills, awful routing, crappy customer service.

Freetrade has been EXCELLENT-it is really too bad they had to pull the plug on us and go away.

Now, it seems we have just 2 choices left: Ameritrade Izone or Choicetrade.

Can anyone tell me how either of them are? I like CT's 99 cent option commissions, but have no idea how their fills are.

I'd appreciate some feedback on either brokerage.

Fills always depends on a stocks float and volume for that day... but anyways Choicetrade is just as quick as anyone...

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Do you ever see fills from Choicetrade that are slightly better than the bid or ask? This happens fairly regularly with Freetrade.
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give me a example....

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Like selling a few thousand shares of INTC at 23.00 and they fill me at 22.994.

Happens fairly regularly, maybe 1 in 5 transactions, and most likely to happen on market orders.

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Let's put it this way... the Market never stops for us so we can get filled at the price we want.. its always in motion.. whether up, down or sideways... if we do get better then bid or ask its more because of luck then the brokerage.. the brokerage is just a bookie taking our bets... they cant guarantee we will get better then bid/ask ... but to answer your question yes Choicetrade is fast... just as fast as any other brokerage for fills.. where i think they excel is in their fee's, great customer service, easy to use platforms, etc.. so it doesnt hurt to try them out... if your not satisfied you can always transfer to another firm...

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So, the answer is no, then. They never slip you slightly better than bid or ask fills.
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I'm not going to reanswer... you can reread what i posted if you still don't get it then ask one of the others to translate like Keithsan, Bob Frey or other Choicetrade users...

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market order: you take the price that they do that moment (second)

limit order: you take at least your limit OR better

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Look, when I was at Scottrade, I never, EVER, got anything extra, and was regularly lucky to get even the ask and bid.

With Freetrade, I get that little tiny bit extra about 20% of the time.

It is all about routing and associated fees, etc.

My hope is/was to find out that Choicetrade was at least as good as Freetrade in executions.

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I have ChoiceTrade and I like it alot. I'm sure if someone sat down and made a chart showing each brokerage advantages/requirements, Choicetrade would be the obvious selection.

Great customer service, too.

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