quote:Originally posted by netfreak: This thing seems like it will close at .0060 again today...
Curious, here.. Did you end up selling out of your position here to get into NDOL yesterday like you seemed to want to?
If you did, then I can see why you want so badly for this thing to crash back down. You gotta make up for the NDOL loss somehow.
Don't put us down because of any faulty trades of your own.
I mean, I know what it feels like to be feelin down about a stock. But keep it real. .0060 isn't likely. .0064, maybe, but even that's doubtful. I'm just shooting now for a .0072 close.
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quote:Originally posted by netfreak: Why would the MM's want to bring the price down on this thing don't they want to make money to..This does not make any sense is it only me??? This is starting to become very strange....
I think they just want to own every single share that's out there in existence. And they're not gonna give up until they get them all, no matter where they have to take the pps to in order to get us to sell our shares to them. They're probably jealous and vengeful against us because we got to ride it so nicely from .0005. And now they think it's payback time.
I miss the old predictability. Right now, it's predictable that it'll go down. It used to be predictable to go up. I miss that.
But oh well. Still holding. I know today will end in the green, but man, I wish it was above .0080, and not below .0070.
meh.
Both of you sound like kids. The PR just came out! Are we there yet? Are we there yet? lol...
These things take time. Understand?
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M3.. They didn't take time before.. PR would be released after 2pm, and we'd close up huge.
I'm just saying that with these things timed better, this thing could have greener days, IMO.
When we only get a PR every week or so, if not longer, we kinda would like to see some good movement on those days. Cuz as the past 9 days have indicated, non-PR days can be downers, both mentally and financially.
Glad to see it starting to move back up though.
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We don't want tons of daytraders like USXP has. People we just get hurt with quick rise and big shakes.
quote:Originally posted by edgewise: M3.. They didn't take time before.. PR would be released after 2pm, and we'd close up huge.
I'm just saying that with these things timed better, this thing could have greener days, IMO.
When we only get a PR every week or so, if not longer, we kinda would like to see some good movement on those days. Cuz as the past 9 days have indicated, non-PR days can be downers, both mentally and financially.
quote:Originally posted by logical buyer: We don't want tons of daytraders like USXP has. People we just get hurt with quick rise and big shakes.
quote:Originally posted by edgewise: M3.. They didn't take time before.. PR would be released after 2pm, and we'd close up huge.
I'm just saying that with these things timed better, this thing could have greener days, IMO.
When we only get a PR every week or so, if not longer, we kinda would like to see some good movement on those days. Cuz as the past 9 days have indicated, non-PR days can be downers, both mentally and financially.
Glad to see it starting to move back up though.
I'm not saying I want to see this thing burst through the penny-door (though it would be nice). I'd just like to see this stock act like it had before. 100% gains due to PRs, then 50% retrace, then repeat.
I don't want this thing to do what USXP did. I want it to do what RSHN did in February and most of March.
The way I see it, the way it's been this past week has been what day-traders like. Easy entry and exit, and then re-entry once it gets back to .006x.
I'd like to see this thing make a good push for .0080 and hold it there. If we're gonna be trading sideways for awhile, I'd like to see the price have gone up at least 10% from where we hovered last week.
Sorry if I seem a bit frustrated. I guess I was putting too much faith in the PR-effect.
I'm in this 'long'. As long as it takes to get to 2 cents or so. And I know this stock can do it sooner rather than later, and without risking becoming what USXP was. But as it is, I'll just sit and read and post my thoughts along the journey.
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mad tony I'm with you, when I initially woke up and checked my account I was pumped thinking we were running on no news, but alas it was already out. The news was good though and I think we can expect gradually better pr's as the weeks pass.
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well I guess I will step into a storm but to blame the low PPS all on the MM are not looking at some simply facts
Supply and demand of US the investors If more wanted in and wanted to hold for a higher price it would happen
Bottom line is we the investor or trades are setting a price we are selling at .While the MM"S can play some games the low PP"S "expected pps is not for the most part their fault
the majorty of investors simpply as of yet do not see a higher valve in this stock bottom line
I been it this stock for not as long as many 20 days and While I see some great post on what could be ,"might be " its still way down the road "
The company PR today again while stronger than last week fluff was could have been better timed
Firdays are generally a poor day for PR the momo dies over the weekend .Also Friday is a proft taking day as anyone that been playing stocks long enough knows .
While the day is not over I am stepping back and honeslty looking at where after Today PR I thought we be at and where we are at and it's not no where near as good .I think anyone that been following this stock will agree the current pps After the pr is depressing .
I like the product,but liking it does not make me money and I buy a stock like most to make money .The poor or fluff pr's hurt, the poor timeing like todays long waited PR hurt .
Hopefully they will learn from these mistakes .They need to show investors why to HOLD this stock, so far they simply have not done that very well .
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If you look at things from the "companies" eyes...and the time frame that the PR's are released...the companies have learned that certain time frames create different results in the stocks behavior...isn't it better to have "their" stock rise at a steady pace and not sky rocket only to fall after the day traders get out? Maybe RSHN doesn't want the stock just to fly and fall...like it has been doing...and so now they are trying a new "time frame" of PR's...to get a "steady rise"..not a spike!
Just a thought...
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quote:Originally posted by dct2001: well I guess I will step into a storm but to blame the low PPS all on the MM are not looking at some simply facts
Supply and demand of US the investors If more wanted in and wanted to hold for a higher price it would happen
Bottom line is we the investor or trades are setting a price we are selling at .While the MM"S can play some games the low PP"S "expected pps is not for the most part their fault
the majorty of investors simpply as of yet do not see a higher valve in this stock bottom line
I been it this stock for not as long as many 20 days and While I see some great post on what could be ,"might be " its still way down the road "
The company PR today again while stronger than last week fluff was could have been better timed
Firdays are generally a poor day for PR the momo dies over the weekend .Also Friday is a proft taking day as anyone that been playing stocks long enough knows .
While the day is not over I am stepping back and honeslty looking at where after Today PR I thought we be at and where we are at and it's not no where near as good .I think anyone that been following this stock will agree the current pps After the pr is depressing .
I like the product,but liking it does not make me money and I buy a stock like most to make money .The poor or fluff pr's hurt, the poor timeing like todays long waited PR hurt .
Hopefully they will learn from these mistakes .They need to show investors why to HOLD this stock, so far they simply have not done that very well .
Maybe for other stocks, but pinks are controlled by MMs.
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: If you look at things from the "companies" eyes...and the time frame that the PR's are released...the companies have learned that certain time frames create different results in the stocks behavior...isn't it better to have "their" stock rise at a steady pace and not sky rocket obly to fall after teh day traders get out? Maybe RSHN doesn't want the stock just to fly and fall...like it has been doing...and so now they are trying a new "time frame" of PR's...to get a "steady rise"..not a spike! I agree! Just a thought...
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: If you look at things from the "companies" eyes...and the time frame that the PR's are released...the companies have learned that certain time frames create different results in the stocks behavior...isn't it better to have "their" stock rise at a steady pace and not sky rocket only to fall after the day traders get out? Maybe RSHN doesn't want the stock just to fly and fall...like it has been doing...and so now they are trying a new "time frame" of PR's...to get a "steady rise"..not a spike!
Just a thought...
I'm hoping that it does steadily rise.. but IMO, that's what it had been doing. The Friday of the expo is the exception because that was probably pumped out of proportion, but other than that, over the course of the weeks, it had seen a much better rise (and relatively steady in that it consistently went up) prior to this new 'time frame' strategy they're implementing..
FYI, the closing pps on March 28th (before the Wednesday morning release) was around .0080. Since that release, the stock has further descended to .0060 and bounced off that a few times. Yes, I would agree that this further fall was not solely due to bad PR timing, but also due to the fact that correction and consolodation had not yet been completed.
But still.. 2 weeks, and 2 PR's ago, this thing was around .0080.
If you're gonna speak of seeing a steady rise in pps, and you think that these morning PRs are helping that, you might wanna check out the performance of this stock since they started putting out morning PRs.
Just a thought. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
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I will agree with edgewise, also if you noticed we never had MM manipulation during these runs untill now. The last time they were involved like this was back at 0005.
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quote:Originally posted by Robbie English: I will agree with edgewise, also if you noticed we never had MM manipulation during these runs untill now. The last time they were involved like this was back at 0005.
Thanks, Robbie. I never was able to see L2's until PinkSheets put them up, so I had no idea of how the MMs played this before. And if they're playing this now like they had been at .0005, then that would show that they have a particular interest in this one, and that is always something I like to hear.
I know patience is the name of the game in these plays, but I still get frustrated when I don't understand the reasoning behind the MM actions. Thanks for the input.
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quote: I'm hoping that it does steadily rise.. but IMO, that's what it had been doing. The Friday of the expo is the exception because that was probably pumped out of proportion, but other than that, over the course of the weeks, it had seen a much better rise (and relatively steady in that it consistently went up) prior to this new 'time frame' strategy they're implementing..
FYI, the closing pps on March 28th (before the Wednesday morning release) was around .0080. Since that release, the stock has further descended to .0060 and bounced off that a few times. Yes, I would agree that this further fall was not solely due to bad PR timing, but also due to the fact that correction and consolodation had not yet been completed.
But still.. 2 weeks, and 2 PR's ago, this thing was around .0080.
If you're gonna speak of seeing a steady rise in pps, and you think that these morning PRs are helping that, you might wanna check out the performance of this stock since they started putting out morning PRs.
Just a thought. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
Exaclty While everyone likes to blame the MM"s for all the problem or poor performance of a stock, most of the time it's not .yes they do have some control but bottm line is supply and demand.
Rshn has not convinced enough investors to hold so they flip quicky short term profits .
fewer investor more traders right now .Only the Company thru Better PR,sales Communcations can change this .
To be honest 0-2 I will be closly watching for the next PR. I Hope like everyone that this stocks starts again on a uptrend but hope is something I cannot cash in .
I would not get so attached to a stock that it may blind you to some possible issues it faces.
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No I have not sold my 2M share of RSHN it just really pisses me off that these PR people do not know how to run the PR game. Release the PR in the afternoon and this thing will explode with anticipation.......AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Look, how may companies do you know on the Pinks that have several products on the market ready for sale, contracts pending or signed in 4 different contries and positive cash flow to promote and produce it's product. This stock is strong. From my study i cant understand why this stock is still sub penny. IMO if you are thinking of selling short of 2 cents you are crazy. Put this one in your back pocket and look back in at the end of summer. Im guessing you'll see .03-.05. And its not going to matter if todays PR was timed right, or if the MM's are screwing you out of a big flip.
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quote:Originally posted by edgewise: I know patience is the name of the game in these plays, but I still get frustrated when I don't understand the reasoning behind the MM actions.
They make you think it is running then they pull it down. Scare tactic so you think crap this is bad, and sell out. They get the shares cheaper.
All MMs manipulations in pinks are about one thing...money.
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